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Old 07-17-2006, 12:45 PM   #329 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by JPC, Sr.
Saying / believing that child support is in urgent need because children are suffering and children need the money is blatantly not true. All the kids have all their physical needs completely filled already, and or, all have ready access to fullfill above and beyond any of their needs. That is the reality. Child support is just extra cash that does not fill any need at all - none.

The false claim that child support is a big problem because children are doing without is just an untrue justification to do injustice to the separated parents. I believe that people say / believe this untruth because it feeds into the self righteous ego, and the pretence that the government is playing "Robin Hood" in child support is such a pompous farce.

Switching to percentages instead of hard set fixed amounts would at least go back to following the law, and it would lower the over all injustice to a little more tolerable level, and it would stop or slow the nonsence of tacking on arrears based on zero income.

Child support is legally in the catagory of "Credit" and "Debt" and over the many years the credit - debt collectors became abusive so much that the gov made the "Fair Debt Act" Link here, to control the harassment of collections.

Laws are always made to protect society and protect the individual and never to give physical protection to the collector or "payee". There are laws that empower and assist the collectors but protection belongs to the citizen debtor or payer. Otherwise we would have slavery and extortion and brutality against American citizens based on usery, mammon and greed.

For child support the gov created the Child Support Guidelines with percentages, link here, These guidelines violate all decency in debt collection (only for c/s) and it authorizes the excessive garnishments just for child support collection. That Federal c/s law just side stepped all the State laws and goes arround all of Maryland's Tort laws and protections. Then the Courts went even further in the false belief that they were helping poor desperate children so the Courts ordered the hard set fixed amounts for c/s instead of the percentages that would have given some protection to the parents from the now present collection abuses (slight protection at 65 percent) and the Court was not geared to protect parents that were already slandered as "deadbeats" and the Courts believed the same untrue tales of poor suffering children doing without food or water on American streets and the Courts took the injustice to the next abusive level, but the fact remains that all the children already have all their physical needs filled already (excluding criminal abusive custodials), there is not one child suffering any real physical need because of not recieving the child support payment, the child support is just extra cash.

Therefore the reform of child support must give back decent lawful protection to the separated parents from the abuse, mistreatment and injustices that are still going on now by the child support collection.
Forcing people to fulfill their moral obligation to their children is a dirty job.

You keep claiming that the child's "physical needs are cared for already". Mark this down.......I agree. I agree with JPC This country will not allow a child to sit in the rain and starve to death because of a deadbeat, self centered, nasty, disgusting, rotten, immoral, dirt bag parent. So in effect JPC is stating the truth. The flawed logic in this is that the child's "minimal" needs are met and you state it as though ALL their needs are met up to a reasonable standard of living.

You see JPC the state legislature crafted a table that bases a standard of living based on the total combined income of the parents and assigns a "percentage" to each parent based on the ratio of earnings. Only a totally disgusting, scumbag, selfish, self centered jerk would look at their child and say "Crap, you have a roof and you are not losing weight, what the hell do I need to give you money for?" YOUR child deserves to live to a standard of living he would enjoy if you were still married to his mother. YOUR responsibility is to ensure that money is provided. Just because you were discarded by the woman does not absolve you of your obligation to provide the means for the child to have a comfortable standard of living. Only a heartless selfish pile of feces would cast a glance his child's way and say "He has food and doesn't get wet when it rains, screw them"

You see JPC you are sexist. You figure since you were tossed out like trash you are not going to go to any length to provide for your child because some of that money might spill over and cause your ex to not live in the misery you feel she deserves for kicking you out. You feel women who are divorced with kids just need to make due with what they have and what they can get from the government and not get any assistance from the father of the child.

You did not cheat the government, or your ex, you cheated your kid. Luckily some other man came along and took up your slack. The government was acting as an agent not for your ex, or the man who took your place as a father and as your ex's bed mate, it was acting on as the agent for your child. Your fight, however gallant you imagine it was was NOT against the State of Maryland, you were fighting YOUR own kid! You might as well have walked up and took the sneakers off his feet and returned them to the store for a refund.

You are beyond stupid.
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