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Old 05-07-2008, 06:33 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Nucklesack View Post
That is your interpretation, the words of the Founding Fathers show their is disagreement about the Seperation of Church and State.

Teaching Religion in school belongs in the correct context, in a theological discussion. Science and Scientific Theory and Creationism are not similiar, one is a Scientific Theory and one is a Theological belief.
Then put it in the correct context. Theory also demands a belief. “Theory” means it has not been proven; therefore relies on one’s belief that the theory is true.

Do you believe there are black holes?

Yes.

Really? Have you ever seen one?

Well, no.

Then how do you know they exist.

A really smart scientist used some really complex math and told me they exist.

Did that scientist ever see these black holes?

No.

I see, so you believe in something you’ve never seen and what you were told existed?

From this context it’s no different than a belief in God. Just because you are applying math to it doesn’t make it any more believable. And because it can’t be proven by some ambiguous mathematical computation doesn’t mean it should be excluded from the classroom.

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Originally Posted by Nucklesack View Post
Creationism would fall under Theology class, because its One Belief of One Faith (ok maybe more than one) but it is not the ONLY belief (just the one you agree with). Other Faiths have different Origin events, Theology class is the setting to discuss them.
I’m not proposing any faith be excluded. Perhaps creationism could be taught in history courses or anthropology courses. What difference does it make what the forum is? There is no violation of the 1st amendment by teaching creationism or religion.

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That is where the "worry" comes from, You and T_P are trying to equate (one particular) Creationism event with Scientific Theory. Besides the fact that they arent mutually like issues, your not asking for other faiths Creation events to be discussed, you want your particular flavor discussed.
No I’m not. I think it’s fair to discuss them all. We don’t narrow our history lessons to just one culture. It’s pretty disingenuous to assume because I am a Christian that this is where learning about faith should begin and end in the classroom. I am discussing this strictly from a constitutional standpoint. My specific faith does not come into play here.
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