[wildsage]

Global Warming Science and Public Policy - 35 Inconvenient Truths: The errors in Al Gore’s movie
I'll get back to you on that.

The American Spectator
Great, more data-mining from oil-owned Pat Michaels. Virtually all the other data on the link that he references (http://arctic.atmos.uiuc.edu/cryosphere/)
shows evidence of global warming. So there is more ice in the Antarctic -- what does that mean? Global warming models are imprecise about isolated phenomena (and the scientists admit that). Is it an anomaly or does it offset the consistent higher temps in most of the rest of the world?

Originally Posted by greg_the_great

I understand that it is difficult to read things that do not support the end of all things, but give a shot. It is also amazing to me that over the last couple of years, there have been a many articles about the farce, and they seem to disappear off the websites, but every article about the warming remains.

The reason they disappear is that they were bogus to begin with. Someone eventually points out the lie so the greedheads move on to another lie.

www.SolarMonitor.org
Thanks for the kewl link to solar info. WTF does that have to do with this thread?

Originally Posted by greg_the_great

The sun does have an effect on the temperature of the Earth. Just dumb to say otherwise.

Never disputed that solar radiation has some influence on global temps, just keep pointing out that it has less influence than GHG.

Dash of Calabash » Blog Archive » New Jason Satellite Indicates 23-Year Global Cooling
Would have been nice if this guy had something besides text on his blog. No source for data? Must be opinion.

AccuWeather.com: Global Warming News, Science, Myths, Articles
From your source: "low solar activity that may counteract man-made greenhouse temperature increases" Hey, genius, how could that counteract something that doesn't happen?
(Answer: it couldn't because solar irradiance has a much smaller effect that GHG.)

Originally Posted by greg_the_great

How can anyone be intellectually honest and say that there is proof that we as human have control over the rise and fail of temperatures. If the Earth is as old as you think, and it has survived the Big Bang [the earth survive the big bang? homeschool, much?], meteors, floods, fires, evolution, do you really think that we matter much? And so what if we do cause the temp to go up a little? Will we not adapt, or "evolve" to meet the change?

Do you really think that man-made effects have no influence? If so, you probably don't believe in evolution -- you certainly don't understand it. Regardless, I'm not a "save the planet" fool; the planet will survive -- will your kids & grandkids? The fact is we can't control the rise & fall of temps but that doesn't mean we can't screw it up.

Originally Posted by greg_the_great

So WILDSAGE, the real question is, will you support the building of nuclear reactors across the US and world to provide the energy?

Hell, no. Not until they find a safe way to dispose of the waste. We have the solution in renewables but as long as idiots like you keep saying they won't work they won't get started so they will never compete on an equal basis.

Originally Posted by greg_the_great

Oil is not "fossil" fuel. It is a continual source of energy and we will never run out of it.

OMFG, do you really think that?