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Originally Posted by The Oyster Guy  Since when did the GW deniers begin citing NASA?  NASA are the folks that say anthropogenic global warming (AGW) is real... OK, so I should have been more specific and said "cloud vapor", rather than just water vapor - but it all goes back to how the content of earth's atmosphere governs the flow of heat energy to/from the surface of the earth. Climate Science: Roger Pielke Sr. Research Group News » Tropical Water Vapor and Cloud Feedbacks in Climate Models: A Further Assessment Using Coupled Simulations by De-Zheng Sun, Yongqiang Yu, and Tao Zhang
And the earth (on the whole, evaluated as a system) maintains a heat equilibrium precisely because it IS a self regulating system. That's what GW is all about, fer crying out loud - the question of whether the equilibrium is shifting to a higher average temperature because the variables that influence the rates of heat transfer to/from the planet surface are changing. Go take a course in thermodynamics and heat transfer, and maybe then you'll be able to debate GW more intelligently. |
My, my, you are rather testy. You don't like being wrong, do you?
That was a nice back pedal, by the way. "I should have been more specific." No, you were plenty specific. You were just wrong, and you changed your argument when it was pointed out to you.
I can use NASA for data because I am not biased. I am not a GW denier, I am someone who cares to actually look at the facts instead of blindly choosing a side and ignoring all information that disagrees. You should try that sometime. Look at all sides of an argument, and try to find the truth. Of course, it takes a little more effort than just watching Al Gore's movie, so I don't really expect you to do it.
It appears that I understand far more about thermodynamics and heat transfer than you do. Clouds actually absorb/trap more heat than they reflect back into space.
Please try to use a coherent argument based on actual science. Your emotional ramblings make you look sort of dumb.