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Originally Posted by Larry Gude  I was totally against gay marriage until Vrail made the argument, a couple years ago, that it's unconstitutional to single people out like that. In my view, she's correct. |
Who's being singled out? They have the right to marry anyone of the opposite sex just like you and I do, and the inability to "marry" (but have a civil union with) anyone of the same gender, just like you and I do
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Homosexuals have had, do have and will continue to have children.
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I understand they're physically capable, but not through homosexual acts. Should they choose to live/act against their nature, of course children are a possibility.
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Make an argument why a settled, married and good neighbor gay couple is bad for society
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Why? That's never been my claim. I've stated the exact opposite of this. I've repeatedly said that John and Harry living together in a union next door doesn't do a darned thing to my marriage, nor to yours. My claim has been and continues to be that the dilution of the word marriage cheapens it over generations, not next week. Just like the weakening of divorce laws has lead to, generations later, treating marriage and divorce like high school kids treat "going steady", I believe that adding homosexual unions to the concept of "marriage" will make the institution weaker for our grandkids and great-grandkids, not for you and me. I take a much longer view of what things do to society than "how will it effect me".
And, yes, how it will effect society IS a reasonable thing to look at for governmental actions. We allow churches to be tax exempt, and homeless shelters, and book mobiles, etc., etc. We do this because of the general gain these things provide society, and as a people (through our government) we actively encourage these institutions.
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It's still a fruit. And that right there is funny.
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I don't know him, I won't go there
But, while an apple and an orange are both fruits (like a marriage and a civil union are both relationships), they bring different strengths and weaknesses to the table. An pine tree and a daisy are both plants, but you wouldn't say they're equals, would you?
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Let's just call it gay marriage, then?
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Why not call the marriage the marriage and the union the union?