View Full Version : Hurry up vs. patience...
Larry Gude
11-03-2009, 09:50 AM
The stimulus, and TARP for that matter, required, demanded, must have IMMEDIATE and determined and urgent action! Every second counts! Or we're all gonna die!!!! :jameo:
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Afghanistan, after Obama declared in March of this year what his strategery is, and now, all of a sudden, we must be deliberate and well reasoned and thought out and conscientious and...
And troops are dying.
SamSpade
11-03-2009, 10:07 AM
The stimulus, and TARP for that matter, required, demanded, must have IMMEDIATE and determined and urgent action! Every second counts! Or we're all gonna die!!!! :jameo:
:tap:
Afghanistan, after Obama declared in March of this year what his strategery is, and now, all of a sudden, we must be deliberate and well reasoned and thought out and conscientious and...
And troops are dying.
This leads well into something I was thinking about on the way to work this morning. Too often the Democrats in Congress treat going to war as though it were another political maneuver, which is why after voting FOR it, they're every bit as likely to vote against it later.
And I've said before that war is like having a kid - you don't start thinking about birth control when the kid enters the first grade. You vote for it, you commit to it until it is done, because unlike government programs that can fail, war will be paid for with blood, lives, mangled bodies and bereaved families. You can't shrug it off like a bad policy.
But you're right - I can't understand a President who seems determined to rush some legislation into action against all sense of reason, but dawdles on a decision that seems to be a no-brainer and completely consistent with what he said on the campaign trail.
Larry Gude
11-03-2009, 10:15 AM
This leads well into something I was thinking about on the way to work this morning. Too often the Democrats in Congress treat going to war as though it were another political maneuver, which is why after voting FOR it, they're every bit as likely to vote against it later.
And I've said before that war is like having a kid - you don't start thinking about birth control when the kid enters the first grade. You vote for it, you commit to it until it is done, because unlike government programs that can fail, war will be paid for with blood, lives, mangled bodies and bereaved families. You can't shrug it off like a bad policy.
But you're right - I can't understand a President who seems determined to rush some legislation into action against all sense of reason, but dawdles on a decision that seems to be a no-brainer and completely consistent with what he said on the campaign trail.
Oh, I understand him, 100%. He is doing exactly what you describe in your second paragraph, trying to work it politically.
Bush never committed fully to war and we're paying the price. Obama won't even commit to his words.
ImnoMensa
11-03-2009, 01:30 PM
Oh, I understand him, 100%. He is doing exactly what you describe in your second paragraph, trying to work it politically.
Bush never committed fully to war and we're paying the price. Obama won't even commit to his words.
Obama doesn mind shoving his reforms and plans down our throat, because he has millions of entitlement lovers standing behind him. But it's lonely making a decision to send more troops. The answer is simple. He hasnt any courage.
You can knock George Bush all you want and you really love to do that, but he made decisions. He wasnt a coward.
Larry Gude
11-03-2009, 01:55 PM
You can knock George Bush all you want and you really love to do that, but he made decisions. He wasnt a coward.
I hate knocking George Bush. I wish he'd been what he wanted us to think he was, a conservative.
Courage is no more an automatic qualification than patience is disqualifying.
Bush gets NO credit for commitment unless he is right. Obama gets no credit for deliberation. Unless he is right.
PsyOps
11-03-2009, 05:54 PM
The stimulus, and TARP for that matter, required, demanded, must have IMMEDIATE and determined and urgent action! Every second counts! Or we're all gonna die!!!! :jameo:
:tap:
Afghanistan, after Obama declared in March of this year what his strategery is, and now, all of a sudden, we must be deliberate and well reasoned and thought out and conscientious and...
And troops are dying.
Look at all the lives he's saved here at home though. :shrug:
PsyOps
11-03-2009, 05:55 PM
I hate knocking George Bush. I wish he'd been what he wanted us to think he was, a conservative.
Courage is no more an automatic qualification than patience is disqualifying.
Bush gets NO credit for commitment unless he is right. Obama gets no credit for deliberation. Unless he is right.
WHAT! You've made knocking Bush an Olympic sport. :killingme
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