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Lexib_
11-03-2009, 03:02 PM
Great Mills Man Charged with Sexually Assaulting 3-Year-Old - Southern Maryland News, Charles County, Calvert County and St. Mary's County News (http://www.thebaynet.com/news/index.cfm/fa/viewstory/story_ID/15387)

libertytyranny
11-03-2009, 03:05 PM
hmm...here is a good punishment idea...let's try this...


http://forums.somd.com/politics/193771-saudi-s-not-all-bad.html

yankee44
11-03-2009, 03:11 PM
This guy need to have a 2x4 shoved up his ass and when it starts to fester up and get nasty he need to have another one shoved up there and keep adding them until he has so many 2x4s in his ass he blows up in to a million pieces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

desertrat
11-03-2009, 03:13 PM
I read that and wondered why the Secret Service was involved?

libertytyranny
11-03-2009, 03:16 PM
I read that and wondered why the Secret Service was involved?

i wondered that too..its a little weird..unless he was employed by them..

GWguy
11-03-2009, 03:34 PM
I read that and wondered why the Secret Service was involved?

i wondered that too..its a little weird..unless he was employed by them..

Or the child belongs to a SS person.

desertrat
11-03-2009, 03:40 PM
Or the child belongs to a SS person.

Maybe this is why:

The Secret Service also investigates a wide variety of financial fraud crimes and identity theft and provides forensics assistance for some local crimes.

ewashkow
11-03-2009, 03:41 PM
This guy need to have a 2x4 shoved up his ass and when it starts to fester up and get nasty he need to have another one shoved up there and keep adding them until he has so many 2x4s in his ass he blows up in to a million pieces!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And even that would be to good for him.

libertytyranny
11-03-2009, 03:48 PM
Maybe this is why:

disgusting. That makes more sense.

GWguy
11-03-2009, 03:58 PM
Maybe this is why:

:yay: Tanks!

foodcritic
11-03-2009, 03:59 PM
I hate child predators as much as anyone. This is still an accusation. The reason I say that is that sometimes when parents are separated the so called parents will say and do anything to gain custody of their child. Not saying that this is the facts of this case but sadly children have become pawns to selfish parents.

I am old enough to remember a case in CA where some small children had alleged sexual misconduct at their day care center. This was before all the sex offender registry and publicity. The owners of the day care were convicted in the media. Over time the details of what happened became so outlandish that they were never convicted. If I recall correctly some of the kids told police that elephants(real ones) were brought in the room and other crazy things.

McMartin preschool trial - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial)

libertytyranny
11-03-2009, 04:08 PM
I hate child predators as much as anyone. This is still an accusation. The reason I say that is that sometimes when parents are separated the so called parents will say and do anything to gain custody of their child. Not saying that this is the facts of this case but sadly children have become pawns to selfish parents.

I am old enough to remember a case in CA where some small children had alleged sexual misconduct at their day care center. This was before all the sex offender registry and publicity. The owners of the day care were convicted in the media. Over time the details of what happened became so outlandish that they were never convicted. If I recall correctly some of the kids told police that elephants(real ones) were brought in the room and other crazy things.

McMartin preschool trial - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial)



This is very true. You can make a child say anything at all. Especially one as young as 3. I used to think that kids could never come up with stuff like that..but in my childhood psych class we watched a documentary and some published research on this very thing...One researcher got a kid to tell her that when she went to the dentist he put a toothbrush in her privates..almost completley unprovoked...it was insane to watch what came out of those kid's mouths...with just a little suggestion..or sometimes none at all. but the fact that the SS may have been helping with "forensic evidence" says there may be more than accusations......

DEEKAYPEE8569
11-03-2009, 04:52 PM
I hate child predators as much as anyone. This is still an accusation.

I remember one jury duty I had years ago. The case involved an alleged child molestation; in Judge Mattingly's courtroom. I 'approached the bench' and told Judge Mattingly that I could not be a juror due to my distaste for such an act. Plain and simple.

I KNOW 'innocent until proven guilty' but I have a problem with even hearing about that kinda crap on the news; never mind actually being involved with such a case. To me "adults" SHOULD KNOW BETTER IN THE FIRST PLACE THAT IT IS WRONG. JMHO

Age does not always wisdom bring.

Purplefox
11-03-2009, 07:27 PM
I hate child predators as much as anyone. This is still an accusation. The reason I say that is that sometimes when parents are separated the so called parents will say and do anything to gain custody of their child. Not saying that this is the facts of this case but sadly children have become pawns to selfish parents.

I am old enough to remember a case in CA where some small children had alleged sexual misconduct at their day care center. This was before all the sex offender registry and publicity. The owners of the day care were convicted in the media. Over time the details of what happened became so outlandish that they were never convicted. If I recall correctly some of the kids told police that elephants(real ones) were brought in the room and other crazy things.

McMartin preschool trial - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial)

I concur.

Softballkid
11-03-2009, 08:25 PM
I know this guy, and I know he has done some out of wack crap in his life, but at one point, we all have, but this seems a good bit fetched from the type of person he is that I know of him... Now, I don't hang out with him, nor talk to him on a regular basis, but when we see each other, we carry on conversation, sometimes 5 minutes, sometimes throughout a night depending where it is...
From what I've been told, him and baby momma (of the little girl which is his) have been having some bad ways...
Now Im not saying she set him up, because I don't know her, never met her or anything else (as far as I can remember)... but, I know women can be just as evil, if not worse than any man if she doesn't like him and wants to get revenge in some way, shape or form.

So I will hold off on whether or not I will add him to the "#### list" or not until everything has come out...

But! in the case he does get out of this, and it is proven he didn't do it, either way; his name, face, and reputation have been straight dragged through the dirt, and that is something he will have to deal with for the rest of his life being accused of that.

Now if it comes back he did do it all, then yeah, it is deserved.... So we'll see what happen I guess..

But I just never imagined him as the type person to do this :ohwell:


I do keep in the back of my mind though, looks can be deceiving(sp)

my-thyme
11-03-2009, 10:34 PM
I know this guy, and I know he has done some out of wack crap in his life, but at one point, we all have, but this seems a good bit fetched from the type of person he is that I know of him... Now, I don't hang out with him, nor talk to him on a regular basis, but when we see each other, we carry on conversation, sometimes 5 minutes, sometimes throughout a night depending where it is...
From what I've been told, him and baby momma (of the little girl which is his) have been having some bad ways...
Now Im not saying she set him up, because I don't know her, never met her or anything else (as far as I can remember)... but, I know women can be just as evil, if not worse than any man if she doesn't like him and wants to get revenge in some way, shape or form.

So I will hold off on whether or not I will add him to the "#### list" or not until everything has come out...

But! in the case he does get out of this, and it is proven he didn't do it, either way; his name, face, and reputation have been straight dragged through the dirt, and that is something he will have to deal with for the rest of his life being accused of that.

Now if it comes back he did do it all, then yeah, it is deserved.... So we'll see what happen I guess..

But I just never imagined him as the type person to do this :ohwell:


I do keep in the back of my mind though, looks can be deceiving(sp)

This young man has spent time at my home, with and without his children, over the last few years, since he is a friend of my son. I also would be very surprised if these accusations are true.

Roxie04
11-04-2009, 07:47 AM
Seems like his story changed a little when he was told the results of his lie detector test..........not in his favor at all

seeamovie
11-04-2009, 08:18 AM
I hate child predators as much as anyone. This is still an accusation. The reason I say that is that sometimes when parents are separated the so called parents will say and do anything to gain custody of their child. Not saying that this is the facts of this case but sadly children have become pawns to selfish parents.

I am old enough to remember a case in CA where some small children had alleged sexual misconduct at their day care center. This was before all the sex offender registry and publicity. The owners of the day care were convicted in the media. Over time the details of what happened became so outlandish that they were never convicted. If I recall correctly some of the kids told police that elephants(real ones) were brought in the room and other crazy things.

McMartin preschool trial - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McMartin_preschool_trial)

Prior to moving to Maryland, I was a social worker. McMartin happened over twenty years ago, and since then most Social Service Agencies and Police Departments have moved to other methods of interviewing children and investigating these sort of crimes. I don't know what type of police department you have here, but I would hope that they and social services are not still using the old investigative methods.

You are a police officer, would you like to share?

Softballkid
11-04-2009, 01:02 PM
Seems like his story changed a little when he was told the results of his lie detector test..........not in his favor at all


Where are said results and this story you speak of? linkie please :popcorn:

ITS ME
11-04-2009, 01:09 PM
I know this guy, and I know he has done some out of wack crap in his life, but at one point, we all have, but this seems a good bit fetched from the type of person he is that I know of him... Now, I don't hang out with him, nor talk to him on a regular basis, but when we see each other, we carry on conversation, sometimes 5 minutes, sometimes throughout a night depending where it is...
From what I've been told, him and baby momma (of the little girl which is his) have been having some bad ways...
Now Im not saying she set him up, because I don't know her, never met her or anything else (as far as I can remember)... but, I know women can be just as evil, if not worse than any man if she doesn't like him and wants to get revenge in some way, shape or form.

So I will hold off on whether or not I will add him to the "#### list" or not until everything has come out...

But! in the case he does get out of this, and it is proven he didn't do it, either way; his name, face, and reputation have been straight dragged through the dirt, and that is something he will have to deal with for the rest of his life being accused of that.

Now if it comes back he did do it all, then yeah, it is deserved.... So we'll see what happen I guess..

But I just never imagined him as the type person to do this :ohwell:


I do keep in the back of my mind though, looks can be deceiving(sp)

True --- marked above in red -- women can be quite vile at times. However, it appears he will have a rough road ahead of him...according to the handy dandy judiciary website he has been charged before with child abuse (apparently with another child) and ordered to serve time by Domestic Violence counseling. That being said….the current girlfriend, could intentionally be trying to use that to her advantage right now.

Softballkid
11-04-2009, 01:22 PM
True --- marked above in red -- women can be quite vile at times. However, it appears he will have a rough road ahead of him...according to the handy dandy judiciary website he has been charged before with child abuse (apparently with another child) and ordered to serve time by Domestic Violence counseling. That being said….the current girlfriend, could intentionally be trying to use that to her advantage right now.

Why would his current girlfriend want to get him in trouble if they have a kid on the way, and it wasn't one of her previous kids that all this supposibly happened with?

As for the child abuse... technically, whooping a child on the ass could be considered child abuse... now, lets have a show of hands of how many people here HAVE been abused as kids or HAVE abused their on children... I'm pretty damn sure that the majority here has been whooped as a child, and whooped their child...

Now I dont know what the judiciary site says, being I haven't been on it to read any of it (being I dont know the the link to the site).

It just all seems strange, I know it may seem like I am sticking up for him, which Im trying not to sound like, but Im not ready to cash his ticket and throw him to the wolves yet either.

morningbell
11-04-2009, 01:24 PM
I know this guy, and I know he has done some out of wack crap in his life, but at one point, we all have, but this seems a good bit fetched from the type of person he is that I know of him... Now, I don't hang out with him, nor talk to him on a regular basis, but when we see each other, we carry on conversation, sometimes 5 minutes, sometimes throughout a night depending where it is...
From what I've been told, him and baby momma (of the little girl which is his) have been having some bad ways...
Now Im not saying she set him up, because I don't know her, never met her or anything else (as far as I can remember)... but, I know women can be just as evil, if not worse than any man if she doesn't like him and wants to get revenge in some way, shape or form.

So I will hold off on whether or not I will add him to the "#### list" or not until everything has come out...

But! in the case he does get out of this, and it is proven he didn't do it, either way; his name, face, and reputation have been straight dragged through the dirt, and that is something he will have to deal with for the rest of his life being accused of that.

Now if it comes back he did do it all, then yeah, it is deserved.... So we'll see what happen I guess..

But I just never imagined him as the type person to do this :ohwell:


I do keep in the back of my mind though, looks can be deceiving(sp)

If that's true she is scum..... that's nothing to joke about. Stop using your children as pawns in your stupid revenge games, it has NOTHING to do with them.

This young man has spent time at my home, with and without his children, over the last few years, since he is a friend of my son. I also would be very surprised if these accusations are true.

People are capable of anything :frown:

kwillia
11-04-2009, 01:26 PM
It just all seems strange, I know it may seem like I am sticking up for him, which Im trying not to sound like, but Im not ready to cash his ticket and throw him to the wolves yet either.
Sounds completely reasonable to me. :yay:

morningbell
11-04-2009, 01:28 PM
Why would his current girlfriend want to get him in trouble if they have a kid on the way, and it wasn't one of her previous kids that all this supposibly happened with?

As for the child abuse... technically, whooping a child on the ass could be considered child abuse... now, lets have a show of hands of how many people here HAVE been abused as kids or HAVE abused their on children... I'm pretty damn sure that the majority here has been whooped as a child, and whooped their child...

Now I dont know what the judiciary site says, being I haven't been on it to read any of it (being I dont know the the link to the site).

It just all seems strange, I know it may seem like I am sticking up for him, which Im trying not to sound like, but Im not ready to cash his ticket and throw him to the wolves yet either.

Your friend should stop collecting baby mammas :rolleyes:
I have never hit my child, never any need to.

Softballkid
11-04-2009, 01:39 PM
Your friend should stop collecting baby mammas :rolleyes:
I have never hit my child, never any need to.



I said I know the guy, and we talkwhen we see each other... that doesn't make us good ole pals or friends... I'd call it more like acquaintances.

ITS ME
11-04-2009, 01:40 PM
Why would his current girlfriend want to get him in trouble if they have a kid on the way, and it wasn't one of her previous kids that all this supposibly happened with?

As for the child abuse... technically, whooping a child on the ass could be considered child abuse... now, lets have a show of hands of how many people here HAVE been abused as kids or HAVE abused their on children... I'm pretty damn sure that the majority here has been whooped as a child, and whooped their child...

Now I dont know what the judiciary site says, being I haven't been on it to read any of it (being I dont know the the link to the site).

It just all seems strange, I know it may seem like I am sticking up for him, which Im trying not to sound like, but Im not ready to cash his ticket and throw him to the wolves yet either.

I don’t know anything more than what is posted on the internet....my point was that if the current charges are false, then Mr. Midkiff will have a hard road to travel to prove his innocence because he has a child abuse charge in November 2006 which was placed on him by Heather Carberry. I don’t know the circumstances that lead to that charge nor do I know the circumstances that are leading to the charge just placed on him. All I know is that I hope for the sake of this child the woman is vindictive and the charges are false.

if you are interested the website is

Maryland Judiciary Case Search (http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquirySearchParam.jis)

Softballkid
11-04-2009, 01:44 PM
I don’t know anything more than what is posted on the internet....my point was that if the current charges are false, then Mr. Midkiff will have a hard road to travel to prove his innocence because he has a child abuse charge in November 2006 which was placed on him by Heather Carberry. I don’t know the circumstances that lead to that charge nor do I know the circumstances that are leading to the charge just placed on him. All I know is that I hope for the sake of this child the woman is vindictive and the charges are false.

if you are interested the website is

Maryland Judiciary Case Search (http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquirySearchParam.jis)

I wasn't trying to sound defensive or anything, but I see what you saying about the other charges and this being a little harder now to get off of IF he didnt do it...

libertytyranny
11-04-2009, 01:48 PM
Prior to moving to Maryland, I was a social worker. McMartin happened over twenty years ago, and since then most Social Service Agencies and Police Departments have moved to other methods of interviewing children and investigating these sort of crimes. I don't know what type of police department you have here, but I would hope that they and social services are not still using the old investigative methods.

You are a police officer, would you like to share?

I don't know about that. I don't know about the dept here...but many depts, social workers, and psych professionals are still using the dolls..and those are the single worst things to use...not to mention if mom plants the seed..no matter what methods are used..what the child said could still be unreliable.

I'm just saying..you have to take what a three year old says with a grain of salt...if that's even the case here..we don't know what sort of "evidence" they have.

MDTerps
11-04-2009, 01:58 PM
Great Mills Man Charged with Sexually Assaulting 3-Year-Old - Southern Maryland News, Charles County, Calvert County and St. Mary's County News (http://www.thebaynet.com/news/index.cfm/fa/viewstory/story_ID/15387)

I would of shot him. end of story

lisa8439
11-04-2009, 02:07 PM
I would of shot him. end of story

:buddies: If I EVER caught my husband (or anyone else for that manner) sexually abusing my kids, *I* would be the one in jail - they would be 6 feet under.

I really hope that this didn't happen - for the sake of the child.

MDTerps
11-04-2009, 02:11 PM
:buddies: If I EVER caught my husband (or anyone else for that manner) sexually abusing my kids, *I* would be the one in jail - they would be 6 feet under.

I really hope that this didn't happen - for the sake of the child.

I won't say where or how many times. Just let your mind run wild..... :biggrin:

party301
11-04-2009, 04:19 PM
"If I EVER caught my husband (or anyone else for that manner) sexually abusing my kids, *I* would be the one in jail - they would be 6 feet under."

i wouldn't be in jail, and neither would they.... because their body would never be found and it is hard to prove a case with no body.... i'm just saying.

lisa8439
11-04-2009, 07:48 PM
[QUOTE=party301;4041898i wouldn't be in jail, and neither would they.... because their body would never be found and it is hard to prove a case with no body.... i'm just saying.[/QUOTE]

well, in the best case scenario, yes... :buddies: :lol:

Seriously though, I can't even imagine someone doing this to one of my kids... especially not their own father (my husband). I KNOW that as soon as I found out I would beat the sh!t out of him for sure... then probably carry the kids to the car while I screamed obscenities at him.

And a 3 year old... honestly. I knew a guy who got slapped with sexual abuse charges of a minor for having sex with a 15 year old. I also knew her... and SHE was the one pursuing him. Not that he should have done it... he should have been smarter and said no. But to me, that's a different situation than someone sexually assaulting a 3 year old. I mean, what is even sexual about a toddler???? Just gross....

Purplefox
11-04-2009, 08:01 PM
well, in the best case scenario, yes... :buddies: :lol:

Seriously though, I can't even imagine someone doing this to one of my kids... especially not their own father (my husband). I KNOW that as soon as I found out I would beat the sh!t out of him for sure... then probably carry the kids to the car while I screamed obscenities at him.

And a 3 year old... honestly. I knew a guy who got slapped with sexual abuse charges of a minor for having sex with a 15 year old. I also knew her... and SHE was the one pursuing him. Not that he should have done it... he should have been smarter and said no. But to me, that's a different situation than someone sexually assaulting a 3 year old. I mean, what is even sexual about a toddler???? Just gross....

I agree, but lets all keep in mind that it's innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. At least, that's the way it should be!

lisa8439
11-04-2009, 08:19 PM
I agree, but lets all keep in mind that it's innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. At least, that's the way it should be!

yeah, I'll admit I have a problem with that sometimes... :whistle: I am usually in the 'guilty until proven innocent camp'.

But I don't know anything about this particular situation, so I'll just say that I hope the allegations are false.

pixiegirl
11-04-2009, 08:32 PM
:shakesmyhead:

Purplefox
11-04-2009, 08:49 PM
yeah, I'll admit I have a problem with that sometimes... :whistle: I am usually in the 'guilty until proven innocent camp'.

But I don't know anything about this particular situation, so I'll just say that I hope the allegations are false.


Me too....

SoMDGirl42
11-04-2009, 09:10 PM
so I'll just say that I hope the allegations are false.

for the innocent 3 year old little girl, I hope so as well. As a mom of a 3 year old little girl, this in unimaginable.

CrashTest
11-04-2009, 09:13 PM
He's guilty. Everyone knows that Durham County N.C. is the only place on earth where men are falsely accused of sex crimes.

vraiblonde
11-04-2009, 10:27 PM
I hate child predators as much as anyone. This is still an accusation. The reason I say that is that sometimes when parents are separated the so called parents will say and do anything to gain custody of their child. Not saying that this is the facts of this case but sadly children have become pawns to selfish parents.

Thank you :yay:

Roxie04
11-04-2009, 10:56 PM
Where are said results and this story you speak of? linkie please :popcorn:

It was in the enterprise

libertytyranny
11-05-2009, 09:32 AM
So I was reading the story in the emptyprise....and it seems as if they are going on an accusation from a three year old...and a lie detector test. Both of which to me are highly unreliable. I hope they have evidence they aren't talking about (which is often the case) cuz thats pretty weak. And what she said he did..it just doesn't make sense..and I think could be easily misconstrued by someone listening to a 3 yo.

lisa8439
11-05-2009, 11:16 AM
So I was reading the story in the emptyprise....and it seems as if they are going on an accusation from a three year old...and a lie detector test. Both of which to me are highly unreliable. I hope they have evidence they aren't talking about (which is often the case) cuz thats pretty weak. And what she said he did..it just doesn't make sense..and I think could be easily misconstrued by someone listening to a 3 yo.

They really shouldn't have printed that 'evidence' if that is all they have. I think it's sufficient to just note the allegations and say they are investigating.

I know the lie detector test is unreliable - and a 3 year old is hit and miss as to whether they are telling the truth or not :lmao:

My brother almost got my parents investigated for child abuse when he was that age - and my father was a cop!! Both of us used to get welts from mosquito bites (we lived in the country and were outside all the time) and it looked horrible - my brother was bad about scratching his and they would get nasty looking. One day in preschool his teacher asked him about the bites and he told her that my mom had burnt him with the iron!! :faint: The teacher called my mom over when she came to pick him up and thankfully they knew our family pretty well - but the teacher had to talk to my mom about it and see if there was any merit to what he was saying. My brother got in trouble for that little blurb :lmao:

He was just so dramatic - he would tell people that his name was Jimmy (it wasn't... not even close) :lmao: and he would sneak candy to school and sell it to kids for whatever change they had. Slickster... My point is that kids are very impressionable and imaginative - and if the mom 'planted' that information to the little girl, she would just repeat it and believe it as truth.

I always hate to hear about this kind of stuff, because it is just devastating all around... if he really did this, well, he's scum and the poor little girl has a lot to overcome. If he didn't, his name is already out and people will have a bad impression of him. I guess we won't really know for months.

libertytyranny
11-05-2009, 11:29 AM
They really shouldn't have printed that 'evidence' if that is all they have. I think it's sufficient to just note the allegations and say they are investigating.

I know the lie detector test is unreliable - and a 3 year old is hit and miss as to whether they are telling the truth or not :lmao:

My brother almost got my parents investigated for child abuse when he was that age - and my father was a cop!! Both of us used to get welts from mosquito bites (we lived in the country and were outside all the time) and it looked horrible - my brother was bad about scratching his and they would get nasty looking. One day in preschool his teacher asked him about the bites and he told her that my mom had burnt him with the iron!! :faint: The teacher called my mom over when she came to pick him up and thankfully they knew our family pretty well - but the teacher had to talk to my mom about it and see if there was any merit to what he was saying. My brother got in trouble for that little blurb :lmao:

He was just so dramatic - he would tell people that his name was Jimmy (it wasn't... not even close) :lmao: and he would sneak candy to school and sell it to kids for whatever change they had. Slickster... My point is that kids are very impressionable and imaginative - and if the mom 'planted' that information to the little girl, she would just repeat it and believe it as truth.

I always hate to hear about this kind of stuff, because it is just devastating all around... if he really did this, well, he's scum and the poor little girl has a lot to overcome. If he didn't, his name is already out and people will have a bad impression of him. I guess we won't really know for months.


Haaha:lmao: yeah I came home one day and told my mother that my teacher beat me and shoved me in the corner..she of course immediately went to talk to her..and discovered it just didn't happen. The worst thing about children that young is not only do they make things up..but they INTERNALIZE it as truth..they don't even realize that it couldn't be. I don't mean that the kid took cookies and then told mom she didnt..they realize that..but if they are told something..or talk about it as fact. they absolutely believe it.

But you're right. it sucks all around...no matter what the outcome.

pixiegirl
11-05-2009, 04:57 PM
So I was reading the story in the emptyprise....and it seems as if they are going on an accusation from a three year old...and a lie detector test. Both of which to me are highly unreliable. I hope they have evidence they aren't talking about (which is often the case) cuz thats pretty weak. And what she said he did..it just doesn't make sense..and I think could be easily misconstrued by someone listening to a 3 yo.

Both of which are inadmissible in court in MD and he likely wouldn't have been charged if that was the only evidence they had.

Mama_Mia08
11-05-2009, 06:43 PM
Both of which are inadmissible in court in MD and he likely wouldn't have been charged if that was the only evidence they had.

I was also thinking they wouldn't have charged him if there wasn't some kind of physical evidence.

That is so sad though....Ugh, people make me sick

nightlife
11-07-2009, 01:20 AM
You people on here never cease to amaze me. Why are you people on here defending a man that was charged with sexually assaulting a 3 year old? And a lot of you would be jumping to conclusions, assuming someone was guilty if it were a different story. Has it ever occurred to you that adults victimize children that they know will not know what is going on and who are too young to remember.
For example, I have been dating someone for a while now, and last Christmas I went to his cousin's house for dinner(who happens to be a woman) While everyone was in the kitchen and living room, his cousin was tickling and hugging on one of his other little cousins(who was three at the time). She walked him past the kitchen and living room, out of everyone's eyesight, but I happened to glance behind me and saw this woman tickling and grabbing the little boy in his privates.
Now, I did not say anything to the family, but I told my boyfriend what I saw. I did not want to say what I saw, because I did not want the whole family mad at me for making accusations. I just told my boyfriend that if we ever have children, she will never be babysitting them.Perhaps the mother walked in on him doing something extremely inappropriate and filed charges.
I just love how a lot of people on here are so presuming and rude about just about everything, yet you defend someone who has been charged with this sort of crime. It makes me wonder just how intelligent a lot of you are.

libertytyranny
11-07-2009, 01:56 AM
You people on here never cease to amaze me. Why are you people on here defending a man that was charged with sexually assaulting a 3 year old? And a lot of you would be jumping to conclusions, assuming someone was guilty if it were a different story. Has it ever occurred to you that adults victimize children that they know will not know what is going on and who are too young to remember.
For example, I have been dating someone for a while now, and last Christmas I went to his cousin's house for dinner(who happens to be a woman) While everyone was in the kitchen and living room, his cousin was tickling and hugging on one of his other little cousins(who was three at the time). She walked him past the kitchen and living room, out of everyone's eyesight, but I happened to glance behind me and saw this woman tickling and grabbing the little boy in his privates.
Now, I did not say anything to the family, but I told my boyfriend what I saw. I did not want to say what I saw, because I did not want the whole family mad at me for making accusations. I just told my boyfriend that if we ever have children, she will never be babysitting them.Perhaps the mother walked in on him doing something extremely inappropriate and filed charges.
I just love how a lot of people on here are so presuming and rude about just about everything, yet you defend someone who has been charged with this sort of crime. It makes me wonder just how intelligent a lot of you are.



Sounds kinda like what you're doing. Interesting that it is ok to jump to the conclusion he is guilty..but not to speculate that he may not be.

Anyway..Everyone on here is speculating..throwing out theories..talking about what confuses them..or what they have seen in the past..or maybe what they read in the paper..or if they knew the guy..or the family..or what. Its a discussion board..so I'm not sure why people are so shocked when they see people discussing things. I don't know if he did it or not..neither do you. No group of people would rather see this guy hanged if he were guilty..than those on here. Its pretty clear you didnt read the whole thread..try that.

also on a side note..It is interesting you would blast how terrible people here chatting are..and how easy they are on predators..and yet you personally saw what you thought was heinous sexual abuse or as you say "victimizing a child" ..and didn't do a damn thing about it. because you were scared the fam wouldn't like you. Thats pretty sick. ....yet you feel ok with yourself enough to come on here and talk about people. :coffee:

Mama_Mia08
11-07-2009, 01:16 PM
Sounds kinda like what you're doing. Interesting that it is ok to jump to the conclusion he is guilty..but not to speculate that he may not be.

Anyway..Everyone on here is speculating..throwing out theories..talking about what confuses them..or what they have seen in the past..or maybe what they read in the paper..or if they knew the guy..or the family..or what. Its a discussion board..so I'm not sure why people are so shocked when they see people discussing things. I don't know if he did it or not..neither do you. No group of people would rather see this guy hanged if he were guilty..than those on here. Its pretty clear you didnt read the whole thread..try that.

also on a side note..It is interesting you would blast how terrible people here chatting are..and how easy they are on predators..and yet you personally saw what you thought was heinous sexual abuse or as you say "victimizing a child" ..and didn't do a damn thing about it. because you were scared the fam wouldn't like you. Thats pretty sick. ....yet you feel ok with yourself enough to come on here and talk about people. :coffee:


Exactly my thoughts when I read this. How can anyone with such high morals NOT mention this to the child's parent???? What did the bf do???? If he did nothing then I'm sorry I kind of wonder if he isn't a scum bag too...You were afraid of what the family would think????? Seriously????? You're just as guilty IMO.

I admit that I am one of those people that may "jump to conclusions" when it comes to child abuse. I cannot help it and I feel absolutely heart broken when I read or hear stories about this stuff. I know that in some cases kids do make things up but they are usually older NOT 3. Also, police and other law officials are trained to look for signs and listen to key phrases. I find it hard to believe that this guy was charged solely on the word of the 3 yo. I don't EVER think anyone should 2nd guess what a child says when it comes to abuse.

Purplefox
11-07-2009, 07:39 PM
Sounds kinda like what you're doing. Interesting that it is ok to jump to the conclusion he is guilty..but not to speculate that he may not be.

Anyway..Everyone on here is speculating..throwing out theories..talking about what confuses them..or what they have seen in the past..or maybe what they read in the paper..or if they knew the guy..or the family..or what. Its a discussion board..so I'm not sure why people are so shocked when they see people discussing things. I don't know if he did it or not..neither do you. No group of people would rather see this guy hanged if he were guilty..than those on here. Its pretty clear you didnt read the whole thread..try that.

also on a side note..It is interesting you would blast how terrible people here chatting are..and how easy they are on predators..and yet you personally saw what you thought was heinous sexual abuse or as you say "victimizing a child" ..and didn't do a damn thing about it. because you were scared the fam wouldn't like you. Thats pretty sick. ....yet you feel ok with yourself enough to come on here and talk about people. :coffee:

My thoughts exactly. In general, we should always think innocent until proven guilty, but in your case, YOU saw it with YOUR own eyes!
Oh, but you didn't want the famiwe mad at you....You are one sick ticket you know that?

nightlife
11-11-2009, 10:24 PM
Sounds kinda like what you're doing. Interesting that it is ok to jump to the conclusion he is guilty..but not to speculate that he may not be.

Anyway..Everyone on here is speculating..throwing out theories..talking about what confuses them..or what they have seen in the past..or maybe what they read in the paper..or if they knew the guy..or the family..or what. Its a discussion board..so I'm not sure why people are so shocked when they see people discussing things. I don't know if he did it or not..neither do you. No group of people would rather see this guy hanged if he were guilty..than those on here. Its pretty clear you didnt read the whole thread..try that.

also on a side note..It is interesting you would blast how terrible people here chatting are..and how easy they are on predators..and yet you personally saw what you thought was heinous sexual abuse or as you say "victimizing a child" ..and didn't do a damn thing about it. because you were scared the fam wouldn't like you. Thats pretty sick. ....yet you feel ok with yourself enough to come on here and talk about people. :coffee:

Whatever #####, why don't you get a life? Why are idiots defending a child molester, saying they think he did not do it, yet slam everyone else that are charged with something.Or try to slam anyone about anything, but defend the helpless little innocent child molester? You sound like a stupid #####.

nightlife
11-11-2009, 10:35 PM
Exactly my thoughts when I read this. How can anyone with such high morals NOT mention this to the child's parent???? What did the bf do???? If he did nothing then I'm sorry I kind of wonder if he isn't a scum bag too...You were afraid of what the family would think????? Seriously????? You're just as guilty IMO.

I admit that I am one of those people that may "jump to conclusions" when it comes to child abuse. I cannot help it and I feel absolutely heart broken when I read or hear stories about this stuff. I know that in some cases kids do make things up but they are usually older NOT 3. Also, police and other law officials are trained to look for signs and listen to key phrases. I find it hard to believe that this guy was charged solely on the word of the 3 yo. I don't EVER think anyone should 2nd guess what a child says when it comes to abuse.

Just as guilty? Are you serious? I'm not the one touching the kid's peepee you stupid freak. I told someone in the family, if he chose not to tell anyone or do anything, it is none of my business. The woman who did this is pregnant with baby number 2 right now, so hopefully that painful child birth will scare her head on straight.Right, so if you winessed a woman tickling a little boy and it appeared innappropriately you'd go screaming at the top of your lungs to the whole family at Christmas about it. The crazy bat would probably deny it and considering she is their family, you get the picture.
Now if I witnessed all out sexual abuse or rape, of course I would tell someone, I probably would call child services.How is someone to know what to do in a situation like that. I had never witnessed anything like that before. I just made the choice to not befriend her and to tell someone in the family.The only thing I can do is to keep my children away from her. Keep in mind this was the crazy bat's house I was at and this is where most family functions are held. Needless to say, I don't need to be there.

BS Gal
11-12-2009, 12:41 AM
Whatever #####, why don't you get a life? Why are idiots defending a child molester, saying they think he did not do it, yet slam everyone else that are charged with something.Or try to slam anyone about anything, but defend the helpless little innocent child molester? You sound like a stupid #####.

I think you have issues that go way beyond this particular case.

foodcritic
11-12-2009, 01:32 AM
I think you have issues that go way beyond this particular case.

YES I THINK YOU ARE CORRECT.

kom526
11-12-2009, 01:32 AM
I think it's funny how everybody is all ready to kill this guy or their husband, boyfriend etc based on the accusations of a 3 year old.

Real easy to talk the talk, little different to squeeze off that round.

pixiegirl
11-12-2009, 10:03 AM
I think it's funny how everybody is all ready to kill this guy or their husband, boyfriend etc based on the accusations of a 3 year old.

Real easy to talk the talk, little different to squeeze off that round.

Any normal person and decent parent would go through the proper channels and let the authorities deal with it. It's easy to talk smack about what you'd do but once placed in that situation it's a whole different ball game. What a child need first and foremost after being abused is the love and support of their family; kinda hard to do that when you're locked up in the pokey yourself for taking the law into your own hands. The world is not always fair or just but the last thing I want is someone else raising my child. :yay:

bohman
11-12-2009, 03:41 PM
Just as guilty? Are you serious? I'm not the one touching the kid's peepee you stupid freak. I told someone in the family, if he chose not to tell anyone or do anything, it is none of my business.

When a child is abused, it is EVERYONE'S business. That child needed someone to stick up for him, and you FAILED. I'm not going to bother typing the nasty words for what I think of you, since the board would just censor it anyway.

And my iggy list goes +1 again.


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