Would it be out of line to request he just leave the state all together and never set foot in it again?

However hard I could kick his ass out of his current position would still be great for the state! :coffee:

anyone have a plan

let do it, kick Hoyer out.... in a big way

While this is my very first post, I've been looking at the forums for a while.
My plan to get rid of Hoyer is to support Charles Lollar. I did some research on him today and I believe he is just what Maryland needs. He has a site up and is accepting donations. I would encourage those interested to visit his site and donate what they can. Unfortunately, Hoyer has a large war closet of money so we really need to help Lollar out. He's also looking for people to volunteer for him. From what I've seen there are some Southern Marylander's on this forum who would be a great help to him.

We have to send a clear message to these jokers. If you do not represent US---you are OUT. I will spend sometime learning about this man.

While this is my very first post, I've been looking at the forums for a while.
My plan to get rid of Hoyer is to support Charles Lollar. I did some research on him today and I believe he is just what Maryland needs. He has a site up and is accepting donations. I would encourage those interested to visit his site and donate what they can. Unfortunately, Hoyer has a large war closet of money so we really need to help Lollar out. He's also looking for people to volunteer for him. From what I've seen there are some Southern Marylander's on this forum who would be a great help to him.

:yeahthat:

My new war cry -- "ANY but Steny", and this is now war! Charles Lollar is looking good -- checking things out, will be donating & possibly volunteering if I can get some family things out of the way first.

We have to send a clear message to these jokers. If you do not represent US---you are OUT. I will spend sometime learning about this man.

Well, that's just it - I suspect that, generally, he IS doing what the majority of his constituents want. He might not be doing what many of them want, or what you and I want, but he is doing what a lot of others want.

Whether or not it's appropriate for them to want it, whether or not it is good for them in the long run, whether or not they really understand what it is they are asking for and getting, are different considerations. But, the bottom line is that Marxist policy breeds the desire for Marxist policy. That's the way it's supposed to work, and that's the way it does work - that's why the presence thereof is a particularly perilous condition.

Well, that's just it - I suspect that, generally, he IS doing what the majority of his constituents want. He might not be doing what many of them want, or what you and I want, but he is doing what a lot of others want.

Whether or not it's appropriate for them to want it, whether or not it is good for them in the long run, whether or not they really understand what it is they are asking for and getting, are different considerations. But, the bottom line is that Marxist policy breeds the desire for Marxist policy. That's the way it's supposed to work, and that's the way it does work - that's why the presence thereof is a particularly perilous condition.

And this is where I feel that we are losing the battle. Not enough of us are getting involved and speaking out and exposing this to the light. I still believe that my country is composed of a majority of people who believe in democracy and believe in the "less is better" theory of government. I also believe that those people have been content to stay in the background and take the path of least resistance because things have not gotten bad enough to wake them up. I also believe that they are starting to stir, to look around, to SEE what is going on, and to realize that to continue on that path means the death of our country. It means that everything that our ancestors fought for in every war, from the Revolution, to the Civil War/War Between the States, to the World Wars, up to and including the current War on Terrorism, would have been in vain. I still believe that the United States of America is the greatest country in the world, despite our faults, and that it is our task to ensure that the principles that created our country stand true today.













I HAVE to believe this! The alternative is too terrible to contemplate.

And this is where I feel that we are losing the battle. Not enough of us are getting involved and speaking out and exposing this to the light. I still believe that my country is composed of a majority of people who believe in democracy and believe in the "less is better" theory of government. I also believe that those people have been content to stay in the background and take the path of least resistance because things have not gotten bad enough to wake them up. I also believe that they are starting to stir, to look around, to SEE what is going on, and to realize that to continue on that path means the death of our country. It means that everything that our ancestors fought for in every war, from the Revolution, to the Civil War/War Between the States, to the World Wars, up to and including the current War on Terrorism, would have been in vain. I still believe that the United States of America is the greatest country in the world, despite our faults, and that it is our task to ensure that the principles that created our country stand true today.













I HAVE to believe this! The alternative is too terrible to contemplate.

I have been out and talking , and I can tell you that opposition is building against Steny.
Many have gotten a bellyfull. He may be doing as his PG COunty constituents want, but he isnt in tune with the rest of Southern Maryland.

Charles Lollar is the man that can put Steny down. Down for the count.

If we can get rid of Hoyer , the number two man in the House, The man with his lips to Pelosi's rectum, we can send a message to all of America, that even a Blue State like ours, has gotten sick of Taxing and spending, and socialist programs.

Elect Charles Lollar.

Checked the roll call vote so I'd know who was responsible...http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2009/11/08/us/politics/AP-US-House-RollCall-Health-Care.html?_r=1

The Republican turncoat is from Louisiana and Kratovil was the only Democrat in Maryland with any sense! Keep an eye on him -- he may have possibilities in the future.

Lollar's getting a donation from me this week.

I want him out as badly as the rest of you, but he has the northern counties in his pocket. That will keep him in there. :banghead: But we can always hope people will actually start thinking a little.

I absolutely agree that Hoyer must go.

But.....we must think through what that means. If Hoyer gets ousted and the Dems remain in control that means that Clyburn becomes whip under Pelosi. Maybe better for Md, but bad for the rest of the country.

If there is going to be a serious movement against Hoyer, it MUST be in concert with an effort to take control of the entire House of Reps. Else, we are simply making things worse.

Now this legislation is in the hands of Cardin and Babs. They will not be changed, but Barbara is up for election next year. That's where the Md conservatives need to really step up and push through.

I want him out as badly as the rest of you, but he has the northern counties in his pocket. That will keep him in there. :banghead: But we can always hope people will actually start thinking a little.
the small section of AA county is not in favor of him.
what he has is the entitled class of PG and Charles. That is where his power stands.

I do think however that if everyone in the other counties voted against him, there might now be enough working class voters in PG that could go against him and kick him to the curb.

For him to lose what has been a traditionally Dem district would be another strong message to those that remain in DC.

And if you dont think that the dems are looking at the local elections to test their agenda, think again. Even O'Malley is breaking a sweat after watching dem governors replaced with republicans.

Can anyone tell me when the redistricting kicks in? When it does, Hoyer will cement his position in the gerrymandering. That makes it even more important to pry him out before gerrymandering makes him undefeatable.

edit: I just googled it. The boundaries will be redrawn for the 2012 election.

I just signed up for monthly donations to Charles Lollar, and to be posted on any events nearby. I will definitely be working for this man! Someone get me a bumper sticker!

I submitted this to the Calvert Recorder as a "letter to the editor"; not sure if it'll run.

Title: Representative Steny Hoyer ignores his constituent's concerns on health care legislation!

November 5, 2009

We took the day off from work; those who are still employed.

We gathered on the west lawn of the capitol to protest against the heavy hand of government invading our lives. We did all that we know how to do to try and salvage what liberties we still have in America for our posterity.

We called our representative Steny Hoyer and told him we were here, and invited him to come speak to us.

Hoyer ignored us and didn't show.

We told him we were coming up to his office to voice our concerns.

When we arrived, Hoyer wasn't there.

What would you do?

How would you serve those for whom you have been entrusted with their liberty and property to protect?

Would you ignore that they were coming to voice their serious concerns?

Hoyer did!

Would you carry on with your push to ram through legislation that many of your constituents are opposed to (probably the majority)?

Hoyer did!

Would you continue to oppose and oppress as their enemy and scoff, mock, and ridicule them?

Hoyer did!

Would you tout bold face lies and violate your oath to uphold and defend the constitution?

Hoyer did!

I WOULDN'T! NOR WOULD YOU!

We expect nothing less then to be listened to with thoughtful consideration.

At the very least he should have asked for more time to consider his constituents concerns before he could place his vote. He should have come to listen to what we had to say.

I would not have rushed anything through without taking every possible opportunity to listen to my constituents.

It really makes you wonder what his motives are when the new legisltation wouldn't even take effect until more than 3 years from now.

It makes you wonder what kind of a man Hoyer is?

It makes you wonder how he's gotten re-elected for so many years?

It makes you furious and causes you to emphatically stand up and demand for something better!

Down with Hoyer! Never again! Let's send him packing!

Anyone but Hoyer!

Steny is Palosi's stooge.

He has reached the number two position in the House and no longer listens to his constituents, now he listens to his boss , Pelosi.

Actually, as a supporter of Charles Lollar, I know for a fact he stands a chance of pulling the numbers he needs from the northern counties. :smile: Don't give up hope. The more we spread the word, the more his name gets out.

Also, as a veteran, Charles Lollar won't let anything happen to the bases, so people need to stop using that as an excuse in our area to keep Hoyer in office. Hoyer doesn't give a crap about anybody but himself.

And as Charles said, send Steny home to live under the very laws he's enacted. So yep, I'd keep Steny in MD and make him suffer with the rest of us as much as possible.

Steny is too busy sniffing Pelosi's ass!!! :coffee:

Steny is too busy sniffing Pelosi's ass!!! :coffee:
How he figured out where to start is beyond me.

How he figured out where to start is beyond me.

Great point!!! :buddies: Everything out her mouth smells like sh*t!

Kratovil was the only Democrat in Maryland with any sense! Keep an eye on him -- he may have possibilities in the future.


I know Frank Kratovil from being pretty heavily involved with the QA county government before I got married and my Navy hubby whisked me away to see the world :lol: He's a good guy - genuine, and a great family man. To be honest, back then I was very surprised to find out that he was a registered democrat - he is pretty conservative in most ways. I honestly think that he only registered democrat to compete against some of the 'good old boy' republicans - to get some fresh blood and ideas into the eastern shore political scene. And it worked, if that is why he is registered democrat. Yeah, I'm sure he has to do a fair amount of a$$ kissing in order to not make waves until he's ready - but for the most part, he actually listens to his constituents and believes in what he votes for or against.

I was actually talking to my husband the other day about the Repbulicans needing some fresh, new leadership - at the national level. And we talked about Ehrlich (lets face it - any republican that can manage to get to the governor's mansion in MD has potential...) and I mentioned Frank Kratovil to him - he doesn't know him (he isn't from the eastern shore) but when he did some research on him and thought that even though he was a democrat he had some potential as well. We need some youth - some leadership that will be around for the party, the way that Bill Clinton has been around for the democrats (I honestly don't think that Obama is even that involved in politics, he just wants the power trip that he is getting...)

I'd love to see the republican party take a good look at Frank Kratovil before the democrats notice him and see that he would be the more conservative balance that would make them look more attractive after having someone like Obama. I think that Kratovil might be persuaded to change his party affiliation in order to battle against the left wing extremists at a national level - he leans conservative, yet would bring enough middle ground that the undecided voters wouldn't be put off by his ultra-conservative ideals.

I am just anxious to see the republicans get something together.... they are being quiet and I want to see them start making some noise - some LOUD noise - at both the state and the national level. I like Sarah Palin but I really don't think she is in a position to take the presidency - and I'd like to see them focus elsewhere.

As far as Hoyer goes, I would love to see him ousted. I was so unimpressed with him at the town hall meeting on healthcare that I made my mind up to vote against him in the next election.

I think one of the big challenges in getting him voted out is going to be convincing some of the old timers on the base that Hoyer really isn't working for them. I know quite a few Govt. workers at PAX who think that Steny's main agenda is to take care of the base. And I know that in the past he has been an advocate for the base - but he is too far gone now, into the clutches of Pelosi and the Dem. agenda. And they (the base workers) don't see that - they think that without him, the base will crumble to the ground. Not going to happen. But I see those people as a stumbling block when it comes to removing Hoyer - they are just convinced that Steny is 'working for them' even though they are conservative as well.

So talk to your local base worker (Govt, contract, whatever - if they work on the base or with a company that depends on the base) and tell them that Steny is NOT their boy anymore.... they are the ones that need to be convinced that he needs to go.
*disclaimer - yes I know that not ALL base workers/contracters believe in Steny and that some of you DO want a change - but you know the people of whom I speak...

Steney Hoyer is to Maryland what a bra is to Barney Franks.

An empty promise.

I like to fire him via phone & fax every now & then. He received his walking papers again today.
Here's his phone & fax numbers-
1705 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-4131; fax: (202) 225-4300


H-107, The Capitol, Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-3130; fax: (202) 226-0663


U.S. District Courthouse
6500 Cherrywood Lane, Suite 310, Greenbelt, MD 20770
(301) 474-0119; fax: (301) 474-4697

401 Post Office Road, Suite 202, Waldorf, MD 20602
(301) 843-1577; fax: (301) 843-1331

Cardin & Mikulski get the boot also.

Steney Hoyer is to Maryland what a bra is to Barney Franks.

An empty promise.

More like painful itching hemmorhoid, or a herpes sore.

I like to fire him via phone & fax every now & then. He received his walking papers again today.
Here's his phone & fax numbers-
1705 Longworth House Office Building, Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-4131; fax: (202) 225-4300


H-107, The Capitol, Washington, DC 20515
(202) 225-3130; fax: (202) 226-0663


U.S. District Courthouse
6500 Cherrywood Lane, Suite 310, Greenbelt, MD 20770
(301) 474-0119; fax: (301) 474-4697

401 Post Office Road, Suite 202, Waldorf, MD 20602
(301) 843-1577; fax: (301) 843-1331

Cardin & Mikulski get the boot also.

What an absolutely WONDERFUL idea! This is worth killing a few trees! :killingme

I absolutely will NOT support Ehrlich. He did absolutely nothing lasting for conservatives in MD.

All he did was bring in the Flush tax.

His whole administration was about bowing and catering to his own administrators. He absolutely refused to hire Deputies that would clean house in MDE, DNR, MVA, SHD, and on and on.

He just doesn't have the cajones.

I hope he just sits this one out.

I absolutely will NOT support Ehrlich. He did absolutely nothing lasting for conservatives in MD.

All he did was bring in the Flush tax.

His whole administration was about bowing and catering to his own administrators. He absolutely refused to hire Deputies that would clean house in MDE, DNR, MVA, SHD, and on and on.

He just doesn't have the cajones.

I hope he just sits this one out.
He also had the GA and the house that refused to work with him in an attempt to discredit him.
remember him and the slots, remember how he wanted them so bad, and remember how the demasses fought back because it was a bad idea?
Then remember when Omalley came in? and he mentioned slots, and those very same demasses almost gave him head because of his wonderful idea to save the state?

Its not Ehrlich thats the problem here, once again it falls right in the hands of the dems.

but you remember it how you want and act accordingly.

I absolutely agree that Hoyer must go.

But.....we must think through what that means. If Hoyer gets ousted and the Dems remain in control that means that Clyburn becomes whip under Pelosi. Maybe better for Md, but bad for the rest of the country.

If there is going to be a serious movement against Hoyer, it MUST be in concert with an effort to take control of the entire House of Reps. Else, we are simply making things worse.

Now this legislation is in the hands of Cardin and Babs. They will not be changed, but Barbara is up for election next year. That's where the Md conservatives need to really step up and push through.
We will be replacing every single one of them in the House. It will be all fresh blood, so don't worry about that nonsense about who will become Whip; Pelosi will be gone too.

Check out the GOOOH (Get Out Of Our House) movement. See GOOOH | Get Out of Our House: A non-partisan political party! (http://goooh.com)

We're forming a district 5 group if you want to be a part of it.

We can do this; together.

I still keep seeing Collins Bailey signs everywhere. Where are the Lollar signs? His website is ....disappointing - just a place to sign up to be his facebook buddy and donate. His site should say way more about his stand on things, include his views on current events - rather than relying on people signing up for his newsletter. Where's his BIO on his page? While I've liked the smattering of Youtube videos I've seen of him, I think he needs way more exposure and get some facts and figures on his website.

Whoever is handling him is not doing the best job possible. There's some confusion as to what exactly his plans are - I see comments about what a great candidate he would be for governor. All this needs to be made clearer if he's to be serious about succeeding.