IP Address Scams

Otter

Nothing to see here
A friend in my office asked me about the following Pop-up and how much truth was in it. Well, I subscribe to an email PC info list(LangaList) and they had the following article. I'm sure most people have run across this ad and some may find this useful..

New Scam Misleads, Legally

Frequent writer R. Dan Park encountered a new variant of a classic security scam. It was in the form of a popup ad that--- while remaining factual enough to be legal--- was still completely misleading. Dan's BS detectors went off loud and clear, and he forwarded the scam message to
me.

The scam popup ad says:

Your computer is currently broadcasting the following Internet Address: [your IP address is shown here]. Every time you connect to the Internet, send email or submit a private information to a web site, you are broadcasting this unique address. With this address, someone can immediately begin attacking your computer. Download Internet Alert to protect yourself now!...

The scam is based on three statements. The first--- that your computer is "broadcasting" your IP address--- sounds scary, but it's shouldn't
alarm you at all. Here's why:

When you click on any link, the server you're contacting has to be able to respond to *your specific PC* out of all the millions of PCs online
so it can send you--- and just you--- the web page, the graphic, the download, (or whatever) that you clicked to see. So, any HTML "transaction"-- a click on a link, for example--- MUST of necessity tell the server your return address, so it can send you the page/file/image/etc. you asked for. It's not a breach of privacy; it's how the web works.

In other words, if you didn't send your IP along with your clicks, your clicks would go out, but nothing would ever come back because there'd be
no "return address" for the server to respond to. For you, the web would stop dead!

"Anonymizer" sites can mask your true IP address by acting as a relay station: You connect to the anonymizer site, which in turn contacts whatever site you're actually trying to reach, using the anonymizer's own IP as the return address. The second site sends the requested page/graphic/file/etc. back to the anonymizer, which then sends it to you. This prevents the second site from knowing your IP address, but the
first site--- the anonymizer site--- *must* know it. So even here, you're not truly anonymous: You can't be. If you want to do anything online, someone, somewhere, is going to have your true IP address. There's no way around it. (The folks behind the scam know this, of course, but they want to make it sound scary, to frighten people into making a purchase.)

The scam's second statement--- "once anyone has your IP address, they can immediately begin attacking your computer"--- is true. It does
happen; there are bad people out there who will hack into systems for fun or profit. That's why we discuss firewalls and other security measures so often here: There *are* real threats online, and you do need protection. But this product? Let's see:

The third statement tries to make the sale: It's clearly intended to make you infer that their product will prevent the "problem" of the broadcast IP addresses; and will protect you from hackers. It can't do the former (if it truly prevented your IP address from going out, you'd
never be able to connect to anything online, ever again), and frankly I don't care if it can do the latter: If the product were truly good, they
wouldn't have to use scare tactics to try to trick gullible users into making a purchase.

A rule of thumb I use: The more any offer relies on generalized fear to make a sale, the more suspicious of the offer you should be.
 

Doc

New Member
Originally posted by otter
The scam popup ad says

Aren't "scam" and "popup ad" kind of redundant? I don't think I've ever seen anything legit advertised on a popup ad. But then, I have shareware installed that gets rid of most of them.
 

Christy

b*tch rocket
I had an "alert" pop up and tell my my computer had a virus. Of course is was just a stupid advertisement. They've got tons of scams going on out there. Pop up ads are almost as bad as telemarketers. So annoying! :burning:

I refuse to click on any pop up ads, just out of principle. I think any company that use those are just rude!
 

Frank

Chairman of the Board
The ones that REALLY piss me off ---

-- are the spam e-mails that have titles that suggest it is a) a friend getting back to you about something b) a reply to something you wrote c) some girl who thinks you forgot about her (Hi! Remember me?) d) an official response from customer support e) Confirmation of -- membership, purchase, a money giveaway. In EVERY case, you open and find the whole thing was just to get you to open it, because the whole thing is a fraud - it's a lie to get you to open it.

Now, if someone lied to you to get your attention, how likely are you to buy what they sell?
 
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yornoc

Guest
Re: The ones that REALLY piss me off ---

Originally posted by Frank
-- are the spam e-mails that have titles that suggest it is a) a friend getting back to you about something b) a reply to something you wrote c) some girl who thinks you forgot about her (Hi! Remember me?) d) an official response from customer support e) Confirmation of -- membership, purchase, a money giveaway. In EVERY case, you open and find the whole thing was just to get you to open it, because the whole thing is a fraud - it's a lie to get you to open it.

This is especially true if you hava a hotmail address. I even get spam e-mail from myself (hotmail address) and if a reply, it comes right back to me. :burning:

I gave up on hotmail after I start getting over 50 spam e-mails each day... most of which are porn.
 
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Kizzy

Guest
I have shareware installed that gets rid of most of them.

I had the same thing and my bank wouldn't let me access my account because I set it up to not allow pop up ads. Now isn't that a SCAM.
 
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