Re: Re: Furthermore
Originally posted by Pete
First of all the new points system is a reaction to the fan frustration about Kenseth only winning one or two races. This method only makes sure that the end of the season is not anti climatic due to a run away winner in the points race.
the same could have been accomplished by simply giving the winner of the race an additional couple points. how would you feel racking up a 200-pt lead because you are good and win races, but when that "shoot-out" comes, you now only have a 5-pt lead and have to start all over again ... say you your car picks that week to blow an engine ... or you are the unfortunate recipient of a chunk of concrete hitting your fender ... or a seagull slamming into your windshield? :shrug: My point is that a driver could deservedly build up a considerable points lead, yet have it erased when it's time for the shootout and be left behind due to some fluke; yet he busted his ass all season to build up a sizeable lead that's now gone ... I just don't think it's right.
As soon as it becomes not proffitable they will stop. If they want bigger purses I suggest Rusty buy some damn golf clubs and get to practicing. Of course he and the rest of the drivers, even the lower teir ones do not seem to be living in squalor, $300,000 motor coaches, big houses on Lake Norman, private charter jets.
Of course they aren't eating spaghettios for dinner ... thanks to endorsements. But you tell me how far, without those endorsements and sponsors, would a $150K purse go ... split between how many guys on the crew, the engine shop, the driver, the owner, cover costs, etc. If they're gonna make it a "play-offs" type sport like football, pay 'em football dollars! :shrug: Heck ... someone's gettin' fat bank off me buying tix for $400!
Don't you even lecture me about what NASCAR is. I have been a fan since before it was on TV and befor yuppie chics driving imports got into it. I grew up in the time when it was on radio during the Goddy's headache powder NASCAR radio and the entire south would stop on Sunday afternoon to listen. Petty, Pearson, Bonnet, Baker, Allison, a young DW. Were you watching the first Daytona 500 on national Tv when Donnie Allison and Cale Yourborough spin into the infeild and got into a fist fight? Have you ever seen Benny Parsons when he was in a car and not behind a microphone?
good for you ... so you're older than me and were listening to it when I was still wearing diapers.
I don't believe, based on what I've read, that racing in the days of Petty are the same as they are today. Things are standardized today when they weren't back then. Personally, I think you see in Kyle Petty today, what you would have seen in Richard Petty then, had he raced IAW the rules/requirements of Nascar today. Sure, I'd like to see more bangin' and bumpin' and real racing (like what you see at Bristol and like what we saw toward the end of the 'dega race) but Nascar won't allow too much of it any more. You can't cuss, you can't bump too hard, you can't do this, you can't do that, you can't pop some little punk in the mouth who just purposely shoved your car into the wall going 100+ mph.
These goobers out there acting like FOOLS are NOT the people who made NASCAR. They are a bunch of undisciplined losers who look for an excuse to have a party, get sloshed and make an ass out of themselves and their friends will laugh. That is not the fan that made NASCAR, it is just those blooming idiots who have migrated to it.
Well, they're the ones who are paying for seats. :shrug: I don't think they just up and one day decided to become a nascar fan. Obviously their dads, uncles, grandpops, etc. were into it and they grew up with it as well and grew to enjoy it. And so what if they look for an excuse to party. You think Busch Beer is sponsoring its series for the sole purpose of dumping cash into a money pit? :shrug: No, they do it for advertising ... to get peeps to drink Busch Beer. Just like Bud sponsors Jr. and Miller Lite sponsor Rusty ... and Smirnoff sponsors Kenseth ... they do it to get folks to consume their product, and that's what nascar fans are doing.
The long and short of it is your opinion is wrong. That "If you don't like it change the channel" is BS. Se I am a long time NASCAR fan, and to have to stop going or watching because people feel free to be asses pizzes me off. Freedom is abridged by laws all the time, public drunkeness, trespassing, even littering. I say I should be able to enjoy a race without having goobers influence the outcome. I should be able to go to a race and enjoy it, just as you expect to go to the movies and enjoy that without some drunckass white trash goober popping up in the seat in front of you loudly telling you WOO PAY ATTENTION HERE GIRL THERE IS A GOOD PART COMIN" blocking the screen every 5 minutes.
My "opinion" is wrong?
Okay ... if you say so. I don't go to theaters b/c I don't wanna deal with peeps talking on phones, interrupting, etc. But guess what, it's a choice I make. You don't have to stop going to races either ... but don't try to tell someone else who is enjoying themselves and NOT committing a crime they can't either. Standing up is not a crime ... if you wish to stay seated, get seats on the front row (they're usually cheaper anyway) so you don't have that problem. :shrug: But just like any sporting event (football, baseball, hockey, basketball, golf even) ... peeps stand up when there's action! Who the heck wants to sit still and not move around a little bit even for 4 hours? :shrug: Hell, might as well go to an opera.
NASCAR! double 
I was laughing my azz off at it! And so what if fans throw can's at Gordon ... he won in the cheesiest of ways. 
I stick to water/juice for the most part. When we went to Bristol, I had a few beers after the race while we were grilling bubba burgers ... But I have to agree that I wouldn't spend that kinda money to only, in turn, not remember the event.
When you compare the two sports -- Risk of life, competition, etc., while I personally enjoy playing golf, it's not near as "thrilling", "exciting", or able to "keep me on the edge of my seat" like a Cup/Busch/Craftsman race will. So I agree with the drivers in that I fail to understand the logic behind the miniscule purse. 
