Cancer Questions

mjkc135

mjkc135
Well, as some of you already know my father inlaw was diagnoised with lung cancer and to what extent we will not know until after his testThursday.But we do know it is advanced.
My question is when someone has cancer is it normal to have MAJOR PAIN ALL OVER?
He is refusing the ER visit that the doctor requested he go to and has decided to wait until Thursday's doctors appointment.
I would deeply appreciate any information that anyone can give.
Thank you
MJ
 
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BS Gal

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mjkc135 said:
Well, as some of you already know my father inlaw was diagnoised with lung cancer and to what extent we will not know until after his testThursday.But we do know it is advanced.
My question is when someone has cancer is it normal to have MAJOR PAIN ALL OVER?[/COLOR]
He is refusing the ER visit that the doctor requested he go to and has decided to wait until Thursday's doctors appointment.
I would deeply appreciate any information that anyone can give.
Thank you
MJ

Very sad, but my dad had the same thing. Pain in his back, his hips, pretty much all over. If your father starts hallucinating, it has moved to his brain and there is not much they can do except keep him out of pain. Hopefully, this has not happened, but if he is confused, seeing things, it has progressed. I hate to be the person that puts it out there, but that is the progression. Hopefully, your FIL will respond to chemo. My dad's doctors just were not aggressive in treatment. I just went through this last year. Very sad. I hope the very best for your father and your family. His started in his bladder, but they thought they got rid of that, then back pain, then they discovered it in his lung. He only lasted about 6 months from the diagnosis in his bladder. Hospice is your best bet if it gets to that point. Big :huggy: to you. I'm here if you need to talk.
 
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Pandora

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mjkc135 said:
Well, as some of you already know my father inlaw was diagnoised with lung cancer and to what extent we will not know until after his testThursday.But we do know it is advanced.
My question is when someone has cancer is it normal to have MAJOR PAIN ALL OVER?[/COLOR]
He is refusing the ER visit that the doctor requested he go to and has decided to wait until Thursday's doctors appointment.
I would deeply appreciate any information that anyone can give.
Thank you
MJ


It is not uncommon at all. You also have to consider that when the lungs are not functioning well, it can and will cause problems with the circulation elsewhere in the body. Also, cancer can spread into the bones and cause pain.

I'm sorry to hear of your FIL's recent diagnoses. If you are local, Hospice is fantastic. I was thrilled to learn a friend of mine is heavily involved with one of the counties Hospice programs in the area. They are there to even answer your questions.
 

christy217

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I think yes and it depends on other things too. My mother died of colon cancer that eventually spread to her bladder, vaginal wall, uterus, etc., she wasn't in pain, or at least she never complained of any, she was in hospice in the end.

My father has had 5 cancers in 12 years, he has experienced miminal pain, he's had lung twice, had the left one removed, had bladder, prostate, and just recently colon.
His brother had prostate 7 years ago, and recently they found out he has bone, bladder and possibly colon, he is in pain now and takes percocet for the pain, he was just recently diagnosed.
My dad's brother in law was just recently diagnosed with advanced brian cancer, he doesn't have any pain just memory loss, tingling, inability to walk, etc.,
I just had colon surgery in March, I was diagnosed with Stage IIA colon cancer at 28, I had my entire large intestine removed, I've experienced bone pain from the chemo, the cancer pain was just in the side of my abd on the right.

I think everyone is different, personally and some people don't react the same. Out of 8 people in my mom's family 6 have had cancer, 4 are dead from it, all but 1 was in pain.

As far as him refusing treatment, my father is similar, he is 71. In my opinion, as a cancer patient and a caregiver of him and my mother, I think that is a sense of control for them/us, it's one thing they can control. Some people chose to ignore the symptoms, regardless how painful because the thought of finding out more is more painful and scary to them. It's very frustrating, depressing and an even overwhelming since of helplessness when you find out your have a life threatening illness. People often say to me when they find out, oh, that's so random at your age, but then again you could go out here and get hit by a bus, I hate that response for the simple fact that getting hit by a bus IMO is an infinite thing, it may or may not happen, having cancer is definitive, it's in my body, invading me, this is a reality for me, getting hit by a bus isn't. You know what I mean? I know they mean well but I totally don't put that on the same plain. It's almost like a mind f*ck because you can't do shiat but what they advise or suggest you to do.

My uncle feels similar to the pain issue, a lot of older folks feel that it is sort of normal to be in pain, but it isn't, it's hard to get that across, and no one should be in pain.

My advice to you would be to make sure that your father in law is on top of his medical treatment, if he doesn't like their response, seek another opinion we get second opinions on our car, houses, etc., but seldom do for our health. Additionally, get to know his insurance company and what they do and don't cover, then lastly, keep a chart for himself, request a copy of every medical test they run, this way if he ever needs to go to the ER in the middle of the night, they have a history there and don't have to call millions of people to get caught up on what's what. I keep a chart for me and my father, it helps the docs out a lot, especially when I see about 5 different ones. Again, if he isn't happy with the results or medical treatment here, seek extra insight at Georgetown, John Hopkins or WHC. I went to WHC to have my surgery, at my age, if I had it done down here I would have had to have a colostomy bag, with having my entire large colon removed, however, I went up there and they were able to do a connection of the small intestine to the rectum, not to mention my scar is only like 8 inches long compared to sternum to pubis that some have.

Sorry to ramble and ramble, but I just wanted to share some info with you. I hope some of it is helpful. Sorry you and your family have to go through this.
 
christy217 said:
My advice to you would be to make sure that your father in law is on top of his medical treatment, if he doesn't like their response, seek another opinion we get second opinions on our car, houses, etc., but seldom do for our health. Additionally, get to know his insurance company and what they do and don't cover, then lastly, keep a chart for himself, request a copy of every medical test they run, this way if he ever needs to go to the ER in the middle of the night, they have a history there and don't have to call millions of people to get caught up on what's what. I keep a chart for me and my father, it helps the docs out a lot, especially when I see about 5 different ones. Again, if he isn't happy with the results or medical treatment here, seek extra insight at Georgetown, John Hopkins or WHC. I went to WHC to have my surgery, at my age, if I had it done down here I would have had to have a colostomy bag, with having my entire large colon removed, however, I went up there and they were able to do a connection of the small intestine to the rectum, not to mention my scar is only like 8 inches long compared to sternum to pubis that some have.

Sorry to ramble and ramble, but I just wanted to share some info with you. I hope some of it is helpful. Sorry you and your family have to go through this.
Wow... advice worth quoting... thanks for sharing.
 
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dems4me

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mjkc135 said:
Well, as some of you already know my father inlaw was diagnoised with lung cancer and to what extent we will not know until after his testThursday.But we do know it is advanced.
My question is when someone has cancer is it normal to have MAJOR PAIN ALL OVER?
He is refusing the ER visit that the doctor requested he go to and has decided to wait until Thursday's doctors appointment.
I would deeply appreciate any information that anyone can give.
Thank you
MJ


My prayers are with you. I think he should go to ER personally. My aunt was only 47 and she was putting off her masectomy from breast cancer and chemo treatments until after her daughter's wedding a few months later from initial diagnosis. Very unexpectedly, the tumor mastesized (sp?) and gave her a heart attack last February. She had flewn to Chicago a few weeks prior and saw a specialist who said it would be ok to wait (at least thats the version we heard) . You never know with cancer. Its mean, its ugly and a terribly nasty thing. My grandmother died from her breast cancer as well, it had spread to the lungs and brain and it wasn't until it spread to the liver that she sucummbed to it. Hope this helped some, if not, please take comfort in knowing that alot of forumites are caring people and our thoughts and prayers will be with you and your family. :huggy:
 

mamissa3

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My mother had leukemia and passed away a little over a year ago. she was always in pain. we made several trips to er with her and they said it was from the leukemia that she was in so much pain. I am not sure if it differs with different cancers or not though. You FILand your family is in my thoughts
 

christy217

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Thanks you guys for the best wishes. Also, there is a great board of supporters for caregivers and patients, with different categories on www.healthboards.com and cancer planet too. All of you guys are in my thoughts and prayers too! :)
 

BadGirl

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There are doctors out there that specialize in pain management, just as his oncologist specializes in treating cancer.

You should get him to a pain specialist (Annapolis Hospital has an entire clinic devoted to it) to manage the pain while he is going through his cancer treatments.
 
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