Nanny search

Hi all,

Lately, I've seen several job postings here on somd.com for nannies who are needed. I was wondering if these posters have had any luck finding someone to watch their kiddos. I posted a similar ad quite awhile back, but only got responses from moms who wanted to bring all of their kids over to my house for the entire day or told me that they would watch my baby in their home. I wasn't quite comfortable with either of those scenarios.

When I placed the ad, I envisioned someone coming to my house in the morning and spending the day with my child in my own home. We offered a fairly typical nanny salary ($300 a week). I do have a decent daycare situation currently, but am still interested in finding someone who can focus 100% of her attention on my little one.

I would love to hear from anyone whose been through the nanny search down here in Southern Maryland (St. Mary's County, in particular). :howdy:
 

Chasey_Lane

Salt Life
gardengirl said:
Hi all,

they would watch my baby in their home. I wasn't quite comfortable with either of those scenarios.
I feel that if you trust someone enough to have them watch your child in your home, you should trust them enough to watch them in their home, too.

Back on topic - friends of mine have gone through a few live-in nannies w/in the last year. It wasn't that the nannies were bad, they just had family issues and decided to return home. Good luck in your search!
 
I agree with the other posters -- I would stay home if I could. But, unfortunately, my income is necessary for us. So, off to work I must go! (We crunched numbers, looked at cutting out all the extras, but it would have been pretty difficult.) Trust me, it breaks my heart to leave her each day, but she appears happy when I pick her up and she enjoys the interaction with the other children.

The last poster mentioned that I should feel comfortable with leaving my baby in someone's house if I'm comfortable with having her in mine...my only thought with that is that she may not have her home baby proofed or safe for a mobile toddler. (In other words, I know that my home is safe to play in...there's nothing she can easily get into at her size and age.) I think that if we had a nanny situation and I knew she was being taken good care of at our home, I would feel better about leaving her each day.
 
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Nanny Pam

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Are you kidding me? :yikes: Is that all you'd pay a live-in Nanny?


I really have no idea what a LIN gets, but that just doesn't seem like it is enough.....especially if she is expected to do dishes? Laundry? Anything else? Or just play and take care of the child.

I'm not trying to be a smart azz, I am just curious.
 
Oh my goodness, no! I should have been more clear that I was hoping to find someone who was a live-out nanny. I actually preferred that the nanny not have to do housework (minus cleaning up after herself, etc.) so that she could spend more time focusing on the baby. Hope that makes sense!
 
gardengirl said:
The last poster mentioned that I should feel comfortable with leaving my baby in someone's house if I'm comfortable with having her in mine...my only thought with that is that she may not have her home baby proofed or safe for a mobile toddler. (In other words, I know that my home is safe to play in...there's nothing she can easily get into at her size and age.) I think that if we had a nanny situation and I knew she was being taken good care of at our home, I would feel better about leaving her each day.
If you leave the baby at someone else's house, they are not a nanny, they are a daycare provider. In order to be licensed, their house has to be babyproofed. If they aren't licensed, and you still leave your child with them, you are crazy. It is simple to get licensed and if they aren't willing to do that, it would make me wonder what other shortcuts (risks) are they willing to take in regards to my child.
 

islandgrl

New Member
Nanny Pam it isn't what a live in Nanny usually makes in my experience. I was a Nanny until I got married & had a child of my own. I would have never have worked for $300 a week considring my education & experience. My last live in job in Falls Church I was provided a basement apartment with a private entrance(and a lake front view :yay:) a car allowence, paid time off & health benefits & I also made 35k a year.

I know that this area pays a little less but for that type of one on one care you are going to have to pay more for a good Nanny.

I have considered keeping a child part time now that my son will be starting preschool & I don't see why anyone would think a competent child care provider wouldn't take the proper precautions to child proof their home in the same manner as you do your own home.
 
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nitwhit3286

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There needs to be an extremely nice day care center with top-notch child care professionals. I am very dedicated to children, especially to my child. I have worked as a camp counselor for at least 4 years prior to having my daughter back in june 2005. I have considered doing in-home daycare, but my apartment is just not big enough.
 

watercolor

yeah yeah
I am a live out nanny and bring my child to work with me. I am a nanny for 3 other children ages 6 mths, 2.5 years and almost 4 years. I get the awesome option of bringing my daughter to work with me, and its a great oppotunity for her to learn the skills to be around other children of different ages, while I bring in some much needed income. Being a stay at home mom before, this is a great thing for me. Plus she also gets the perks of learning sign language, and also gets to learn and play on a daily basis. She has grown leaps and bounds since I have started working there. And those kids are treated no different than my own, and I absolutely adore them, and love them to death. It really is about the person you hire, and if you mesh well with them, and if the child meshes well with them, and that they are in a comfortable enviornment also.

I can understand the fear though, of having your daughter watched by someone else, who would bring their child- because you feel that she would not get attention, nor would she get treated the same as the care providers biochild...but, that is where you have to come into the picture and interview the heck out of the person, have them on as a trial basis, see how things workout, even put cameras in if that would make you feel better. You will be able to tell how things are going by the way your child acts. TRUST ME! If something is wrong, an dthe chils is not getting what they need, it will be apparent. Especially at the toddler age.


The monies would have to be on the basis of the experience of the nanny/provider, along with what you are asking them to do, and you also have to take into account the gas and all the expenses that would be needed to have them come to your house everyday. Also- if they would be doing things with the child(ren) and all that stuff. Along with snacks and lunches/breakfasts, and if you would feed them, etc etc. It all plays a part.


Just wanted to let you know, that there are those of us out there, who are great and that maybe someone who wanted to bring their child with them, isnt such a bad thing. Especially because children learn so much from each other. But that maybe not wash away that opportunity if it arises, and you feel that it would be a good fit between you and that caregiver. :) Good luck! :flowers:
 
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Fat Momma

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gardengirl said:
I agree with the other posters -- I would stay home if I could. But, unfortunately, my income is necessary for us. So, off to work I must go! (We crunched numbers, looked at cutting out all the extras, but it would have been pretty difficult.) Trust me, it breaks my heart to leave her each day, but she appears happy when I pick her up and she enjoys the interaction with the other children.

The last poster mentioned that I should feel comfortable with leaving my baby in someone's house if I'm comfortable with having her in mine...my only thought with that is that she may not have her home baby proofed or safe for a mobile toddler. (In other words, I know that my home is safe to play in...there's nothing she can easily get into at her size and age.) I think that if we had a nanny situation and I knew she was being taken good care of at our home, I would feel better about leaving her each day.

I think it is wonderful to be a working mom. I can't speak for everyone but my children loved the time away with other children in their age range. They really enjoyed themselves and it made going into school a lot easier as they were use to the schedule and most of the kids in daycare went to the same school. This habot passed onto my children as adults and they are more adjusted to go to work and make a life for themselves.

As a mother, I used to think there is nobody out there that will care for my children they way that I do. I was right they were better...no just kidding...

Look into it. Most of them are moms too and know how to baby/child proof a home and are able to give your child the care they would want for their own.

I know there are many bad ones out there so do your research. I would much rahter have my little ones in a daycare where they are other children and adults coming in and out then someone in my home alone with my child.
 

Pasofever

Does my butt look big?
Look into the Amish community lots of older girls..teens young adults that will do this type of work..and god knows they have experience with kids..
 
Really interesting responses...especially from the last poster, Fat Momma, it's interesting that you mention how much your kiddos liked the interaction with the other children. My little one really seems to have the same experience...I watch her and she's just so intent on playing with the others. It's really cute to watch her develop her social skills at such a young age!

Watercolor, thank you for posting! I'm glad that you've found such a wonderful situation for yourself. It sounds like you've got a great match with the family you're with. Maybe I just need to keep looking!

Ntwhit, I agree, more daycare options in our area would be so appreciated!

Islandgrl, I'd love to hear (if you'd be willing to share), what you feel a live-out nanny should make? In my original ad, I offered $300 a week, full use of our home, no chores besides simply cleaning up after self and baby, etc. I thought that was reasonable, but maybe not?
 

SoMDGirl42

Well-Known Member
Pasofever said:
Look into the Amish community lots of older girls..teens young adults that will do this type of work..and god knows they have experience with kids..
I am in the process of looking into this now. My daycare provider has told me she is closing :bawl: I love her and it makes me so sad. I wish I could stay home with her, but I just can't.

I was told yesterday that the Menonites (sp?) will come to your house (they do drive cars). My daycare provider has a friend that has one come to her house. She talked to the lady (a menoite) doing her daycare and said they all have very long waiting lists for their services. I don't know what to do now. I have to find someone I trust enough to care for my little one. I just want to scream in frustration cause I can't stay home with her myself. :tantrum
 

islandgrl

New Member
Here is an article that may be helpful to some of you.

I know that for me being a Nanny was much more than just being a glorified babysitter it was a career & I treated it as such. I took college classes in early childhood development & got certified in pediatric first aid & CPR. I worked with the parents to develop schedules for the kids, helped with homework, went on field trips, did craft projects, took them to the park, kept a journal of eating patterns for the newborns. I was never asked to clean beyond cleaning after the children & myself as that was not my job, a Nanny is there for the children not to be a maid. I put as much care into other people's children as I do my own.
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General Considerations

A nanny's salary can vary considerably; some factors which can effect the salary a family will need to pay include:

The number of hours care is needed each week. A full time nanny will typically average 45 hours per week. Longer scheduled days will require additional compensation. If the work week is expected to be greater than 55 hours per week, the family is advised to split the job between two employees.
Geographic region of country. The highest salaries are paid in major metro markets such as Boston, New York, Washington, Atlanta, San Francisco and Seattle.
Whether position is live-in or live-out (in some areas a live-in nanny's salary is less; in other parts of the country there is little or no difference)
The nanny's experience
The number of children and the job responsibilities.
Benefits, such as health insurance.
To avoid misunderstandings, be clear that the salary offered is gross or net (take home amount) and state what deductions, if any, will be made from the offered salary. If offering a net wage, be very specific as to whether you are paying US social security/medicare taxes ONLY for the employee (s/he is responsible for US Federal and state income taxes) or whether the net includes your being responsible for all nanny income taxes also. You may wish to consult a US Employment tax advisor for guidance in these areas. Additionally, in the United States nannies are subject to Federal (and generally state) minimum wage rules.

The following are some general weekly wage guidelines assuming a 45-50 hour work week and one or two children. All figures are in US dollars and representative of Year 2006 wages:

18 - 20 years old, or less than 2 years verifiable child care experience - $325-$450 live-in; $8-12 hour live-out.
21 years or older, 2 or more years verifiable child care experience, no prior nanny experience (note that college education puts you to the higher end of the salary range) - $450-$600 live-in; $10-15 hour live-out.
Two or more years of nanny experience, and/or a college degree in a child related field - $450-800 live-in; $10-20 hour live-out, higher in major metro markets.
Part Time Nannies: In addition to hard to find, these jobs command a premium wage. These positions are almost exclusively live-out and paid on an hourly basis. Often there is a weekly guarantee, needed to retain dependable help. Hourly rates start at $12 per hour and are as high as $20 - 25 per hour is affluent areas such as the San Francisco Bay Area, Westchester (NY), Fairfield (CT) and Montgomery (MD) Counties. We have observed that affluent areas not well served by public transportation have the highest prevailing hourly wage.

These figures are just guidelines, local job market and specific employment conditions cause considerable variation. Specifically, CA, CT, DC Metro, MA, and NY salaries are quite a bit higher than national averages. Be aware that these are "gross wage" figures, before payroll taxes have been deducted. You can use the payroll tax calculator at HomeWork Solutions Inc., a nanny payroll and tax service, to compute take home pay and, if desired, print pay stubs.
The Compensation Package

The nanny will typically expect to be paid either every week or every other week. A full time nanny will expect to be paid her regular wage for 52 weeks a year, even if the family takes additional holidays without her. Families can pay the nanny in either cash, personal check, or using a payroll service with Direct Deposit. The nanny's paycheck should NEVER be delayed or forgotten.

A typical nanny or housekeeper/household manager compensation package today is not limited to her pay check. Many household employees ask for and receive the following:

Paid Time Off (PTO): (typically 5 - 15 days paid, some scheduling at family's discretion)
health insurance (typically 50% paid by family for first year, often fully paid after first year)
reimbursement for mileage if nanny is required to use personal automobile to transport children
six or more Federal holidays paid (New Years, Memorial Day, July 4, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas always).
A recent trend in developing the nanny compensation package is to offer Flex Days or PTO days in lieu of separate banks of paid vacation and sick days. The Flex Days are paid days to be used at the nanny's discretion. We usually see 10 - 15 days in a full time worker's agreement, and they can cover sick days, personal days, and vacation (pre-scheduled according to your agreement).

PTO time, vacation time, and sick time all typically accrue, or accumulate over time. Many families restrict the use of paid time off at the beginning of employment, generally 60 to 90 days. An employee who is offered 10 paid days off per year (2 weeks) will accrue, or earn 0.1923 days per week, or slightly less than one day per month. Typically, a worker who is both beyond the probationary period and voluntarily separating from employment is paid their unused accrued PTO and vacation time (not sick time) at the time of separation if there is a positive balance in their account. In some states payment of accrued vacation time is mandated under state employment law.

Another area which is often misunderstood involves payment for days not worked. Your nanny will expect to be paid for all days she is prepared to work, even if you decide to take your family away for a portion or all of any given week. The nanny will also expect to receive and to be paid for the following federal holidays: New Years Day, Presidents Day, Memorial Day, July 4th, Labor Day, Thanksgiving and Christmas. Most families also include the Friday after Thanksgiving. If you are uncomfortable with any of these expectations, however, let the nanny know in the Work Agreement how you will handle holidays and regularly scheduled days which are not worked due to no fault of the nanny, so that this does not come as an unexpected surprise, three months into the job.

Bonuses

Some families offer their nanny an incentive payment after the first (and subsequent) year's employment - variations include a bonus for signing on for an additional period of time (not necessarily another year - sometimes six month stretches) or the payment of a portion or all of a tuition payment for an evening or weekend class at a local community college. Bonuses generally reflect the family's appreciation for continuity of care for their child(ren) and the fact that they will not have to spend additional moneys recruiting a replacement.

Other incentives include health club membership, airfare home, and payment for all or part of health insurance premiums. Remember, most bonuses and non-cash compensation are taxable income to the employee and should be reported as such.
 

islandgrl

New Member
Overtime

In the United States, hours worked in excess of 40 per week, typically, must be compensated at time and a half. The Federal Fair Labor Standards Act applies this rule to domestics who do not reside with the employer ("live out" or "come and go"). Domestics who live in with the employer must be compensated for every hour of work, but the time and a half rule does not apply. (Note: in some states, the overtime requirement for time and a half applies to live-in nannies as well); however, your nanny may interpret overtime to mean hours worked in excess of those originally agreed upon (regardless of whether those "originally agreed upon" hours were 20 per week or 50 per week. It is a good policy to clarify what is meant by this term from the very beginning, especially since occasional overtime needs is often one of the reasons a family has arranged for a nanny.

NOTE: Nannies are covered by the Fair Labor Standards Act. This means that nanny salaries must meet minimum wage tests, and live out employees are entitled to the overtime differential (time and one-half) for all hours in a week over 40. Hypothetically, if a live out nanny works 50 hours per week, her salary cannot be below $283.25 weekly (minimum wage = $5.15/hour as of 9/1/97). Mathematically, this is calculated as follows:

First 40 hours [40 * 5.15] = $206
Overtime hours [(10 * 1.5) * 5.15] = $77.25
Total minimum salary: $283.25

The reality is that very few families will find a competent, reliable nanny willing to work at the minimum wage.
Pay Days

The Work Agreement should specify the frequency of pay days - each Friday, etc. and you should be prepared to pay your employee early if you will not be home on pay day or if you and your family will be out of town on the scheduled pay date.

Expenses

The nanny who is required to provide transportation for your child in her vehicle needs to be reimbursed for her mileage. This is not purchasing a tank of gas, but rather providing true mileage reimbursement to allow the nanny to recover the cost of gas, wear and tear, maintenance, and depreciation of her vehicle. The IRS business mileage reimbursement rate as of January 2007 is $0.485 per mile.

The nanny may have other out of pocket expenses that she incurs in the course of her job. This can be picking up bread and milk at the grocery, cab fare, providing the child with school activity fee money, or entertainment such as movies or a McDonald's lunch. Most families find that a 'petty cash' fund of $20 - $50 that is replenished by the family regularly works well. The nanny should be required to provide documentation of all expenses - the grocery receipt or just a log of expenses. Family and nanny should discuss in advance expenses the family is comfortable with (a weekly lunch out may be one) and expenses they wish to approve in advance ($30 Circus tickets may be an example). If nanny pays for family expenses from her personal funds, she should be promptly reimbursed by the family.

Reviews

Reviews and the opportunity for increases in compensation provide an incentive for a nanny to continue to strive to do his or her best. Families are advised to consider their ability to set a schedule for review and salary adjustment and let the employee know when he or she can expect to be considered for an increase in compensation. The nanny should expect at a minimum an annual review. Salary increases for good performance average 5% annually. The outstanding employee may merit a greater increase or a bonus in addition to an increase. Of course, if the nanny is not meeting your expectations, please don't wait a year to address the problems. If the family maintains good open lines of communication with their nanny, performance problems will either go away or the family will replace the nanny. Poor communication between the adults is a common cause of nanny turnover.

Families go to considerable effort to secure a quality care giver - don't forget the need to make sure that the employee knows how much the family values him or her and want to keep them!
 
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Fat Momma

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I would suggest you explore all the options. For your child(ren), things might be very difficult in different environments. Some children thrive in a smaller setting and some fair better with a larger group of peers.

I am sorry but I would rather have a glorified babysitter any day. Those glorified babysitters are in most cases mothers from our community like most these posters on here.

I happen to have two degrees and education is something I take seriously but that to me is not what I am looking for in someone to watch my children, whereas warmth, personality, caring and a general good rapport with children, theirs and mine.

I have no problem with a mother who will bring their child to work while watching my children, I realize that my children are not the center of the universes and I have nothing but admiration to those mothers who love their children so much that are willing to make this leap in development. Then there are the boundary issues with nanny, never REALLY knowing what's going on/whether she's following our instructions. Most Nannies’ are pompous and overconfident. Thinking they know what is better for your child than you do. While another mother will respect your wishes in how you want your child care for IMO, and I would not feel comfortable leaving my children with a Nanny whose motivation to care for my child was primarily a paycheck and a JOB. Having a mother come in with her child is different yes it still is about the money but not on the same level.


The biggest disadvantage is the expense, because you will become the nanny's employer, and will have to take on the entire attendant responsibilities, such as paying tax, National Insurance and paid holiday leave.

In some cases, there is the lack of a formal registration process for nannies. Both daycare facilities and in home daycares are registered and inspected. If you're going through a nanny agency, they do the checks. I'd actually try to check out the agency; i.e. Better Business Bureau for complaints, former and current clients of the agency, etc.

While the secure atmosphere of home is appealing, some parents prefer their child to spend more time playing with other children. And the fact that the nanny is alone in the house means that it is more difficult to keep a check if you have any niggles or worries.



Keep in mind that is only my opinion.
 
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