WWDC 2007, SAN FRANCISCO—June 11, 2007—Apple® today introduced Safari™ 3, the world’s fastest and easiest-to-use web browser for Windows PCs and Macs. Safari is the fastest browser running on Windows, based on the industry standard iBench tests, rendering web pages up to twice as fast as IE 7 and up to 1.6 times faster than Firefox 2.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/06/11safari.html?sr=hotnews.rss

Just downloaded it! This is pretty awesome! Thanks for the tip! :huggy:

Just downloaded it! This is pretty awesome! Thanks for the tip! :huggy:


What do you think of it? I already use Safari since I have a Mac. Just wondering how it is on Windows O/S's.

What do you think of it? I already use Safari since I have a Mac. Just wondering how it is on Windows O/S's.
I'm on my windows machine right now and just finished installing it. It works decent, have noticed a few bugs already but nothing major.

I'm on my windows machine right now and just finished installing it. It works decent, have noticed a few bugs already but nothing major.

My husband (an Apple fanatic) said he has no clue as to what Apple is thinking doing this. He said he thinks Windows users will probably encounter problems with different plug-ins etc.

My husband (an Apple fanatic) said he has no clue as to what Apple is thinking doing this. He said he thinks Windows users will probably encounter problems with different plug-ins etc.
I can see the pro's and con's to doing it, but at least they are keeping the apple look to safari.

Could help people who are thinking about making the switch. I.E. Nickel.... :tap:

I can see the pro's and con's to doing it, but at least they are keeping the apple look to safari.

Could help people who are thinking about making the switch. I.E. Nickel.... :tap:
Buy me a Mac and I'll gladly make the switch. :kiss: As it stands, D fixed the "old" one, and I'm starting school full time in two months. :nomoney:

Buy me a Mac and I'll gladly make the switch. :kiss: As it stands, D fixed the "old" one, and I'm starting school full time in two months. :nomoney:
I don't want you to make the switch that bad. :razz:

What do you think of it? I already use Safari since I have a Mac. Just wondering how it is on Windows O/S's.

I like it! It is way faster when it loads, especially in this forum. :lol: I also like the cleaner look of it. It doesn't look so cluttered up. I did notice a problem when I was shopping online, I was trying to checkout and it wouldn't load the checkout page. But other then that it's pretty nice! :yay:

I did notice a problem when I was shopping online, I was trying to checkout and it wouldn't load the checkout page. But other then that it's pretty nice! :yay:
That's the husband 1.2 plugin

That's the husband 1.2 plugin

Darn, I forgot to run "The wife's always right 3.0" program! :ohwell: I will have to install "no nookie unless you let me 6.9" tonight to remedy that! :lmao:

I don't want you to make the switch that bad. :razz:
Dang, foiled again. :ohwell:

WWDC 2007, SAN FRANCISCO—June 11, 2007—Apple® today introduced Safari™ 3, the world’s fastest and easiest-to-use web browser for Windows PCs and Macs. Safari is the fastest browser running on Windows, based on the industry standard iBench tests, rendering web pages up to twice as fast as IE 7 and up to 1.6 times faster than Firefox 2.

http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2007/06/11safari.html?sr=hotnews.rss

WOW!!! I missed that..will let my PC friend know..
Me a MACker... :-)

Thanks :howdy:

That's the husband 1.2 plugin

:lmao:

Just a little rant about browsers in general. Why is it that most developers cannot implement the tabbed browsing feature to its full potential. I hate the fact that Ctrl-click is my only option for opening a new tab (Safari). Firefox while not much better does at least let me utilize the center click button on the mouse, which still doesn't feel quite natural. Is it so hard to setup a browser with more options on how it handles tabbed browsing? Maybe it's just me but if I'm using tabbed browsing I want it to handle most items in a new tab unless I specify otherwise without any special keys or odd clicks. AMBrowser is still my favorite for a tabbed browser. It has options that can be set based on the event for tabbed browsing (i.e. opening from favorites, history, typed in). Only the inverse requires special clicks. While Safari is fast it still isn't quite there either

Just a little rant about browsers in general. Why is it that most developers cannot implement the tabbed browsing feature to its full potential. I hate the fact that Ctrl-click is my only option for opening a new tab (Safari). Firefox while not much better does at least let me utilize the center click button on the mouse, which still doesn't feel quite natural. Is it so hard to setup a browser with more options on how it handles tabbed browsing? Maybe it's just me but if I'm using tabbed browsing I want it to handle most items in a new tab unless I specify otherwise without any special keys or odd clicks. AMBrowser is still my favorite for a tabbed browser. It has options that can be set based on the event for tabbed browsing (i.e. opening from favorites, history, typed in). Only the inverse requires special clicks. While Safari is fast it still isn't quite there either

I don't understand why pushing one key is so hard? Also, you can go into Safari preferences and enable tabbed browsing.

Just a little rant about browsers in general. Why is it that most developers cannot implement the tabbed browsing feature to its full potential. I hate the fact that Ctrl-click is my only option for opening a new tab (Safari). Firefox while not much better does at least let me utilize the center click button on the mouse, which still doesn't feel quite natural. Is it so hard to setup a browser with more options on how it handles tabbed browsing? Maybe it's just me but if I'm using tabbed browsing I want it to handle most items in a new tab unless I specify otherwise without any special keys or odd clicks. AMBrowser is still my favorite for a tabbed browser. It has options that can be set based on the event for tabbed browsing (i.e. opening from favorites, history, typed in). Only the inverse requires special clicks. While Safari is fast it still isn't quite there either
In Firefox, go into tools -> options -> tabs and change the default to open new pages in a new tab :shrug:

I don't understand why pushing one key is so hard? Also, you can go into Safari preferences and enable tabbed browsing.
Not that it's hard, it's just inconvenient. I went into the Safari options and the only option for tabbed browsing I see has me Ctrl-click to open it in a new tab. It doesn't seem to work for bookmarks which is what I utilize tabbed browsing for the most, only in-page links that for the most part I would prefer them to open in the same tab. Perhaps the Mac version is different. Just seems like all of the mainstream browsers have tabbed browsing thrown in as an afterthought.

In Firefox, go into tools -> options -> tabs and change the default to open new pages in a new tab :shrug:
Yeah, I've set this option there as well and again as I specified above it doesn't do that automatically for bookmarks but it does at least let you middle click the mouse for it.

Not that it's hard, it's just inconvenient. I went into the Safari options and the only option for tabbed browsing I see has me Ctrl-click to open it in a new tab. It doesn't seem to work for bookmarks which is what I utilize tabbed browsing for the most, only in-page links that for the most part I would prefer them to open in the same tab. Perhaps the Mac version is different. Just seems like all of the mainstream browsers have tabbed browsing thrown in as an afterthought.


Go here and read #6. http://www.apple.com/safari/ Is that helpful to you?

Go here and read #6. http://www.apple.com/safari/ Is that helpful to you?

I don't see where #6 actually tells me about on event tabbed browsing. I know it does tabbed browsing it just seems as poorly implemented as the other mainstream browsers are. Apparently I'm alone in my beliefs on how a tabbed browser should work. :shrug:

Apparently I'm alone in my beliefs on how a tabbed browser should work. :shrug:


Sorry, but I think you're right. :lol:

I just open a new window then go to the site where I want to go. :shrug:

Sorry, but I think you're right. :lol:

I just open a new window then go to the site where I want to go. :shrug:

I'm just lazy, I want to do in one-click what it takes you a few clicks to do. :diva:

Don't use it on Windows just yet

By Alex Zaharov-Reutt

Wednesday, 13 June 2007

Numerous reports of bugs within the beta of Apple's latest browser, Safari 3, in both the Mac and Windows versions, make it good to play around with but not to use as your everyday browser.

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Although all browsers have security issues uncovered on a relatively regular basis, most of which are rapidly patched up with updates and fixes, the latest beta version of Safari has been put to the test by a number of security researchers, as reported by PC Magazine and others, and is so far failing a lot of security tests.

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Problems with Safari uncovered so far include DoS and remote execution bugs, memory corruption that could be exploited, command execution vulnerabilities simply by visiting a web site - and that's just in the last couple of days. Security researchers are bound to find more bugs in the system, or more ghosts in the machine for Apple to eliminate.

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But if the security researchers have been looking for Safari's vulnerabilities, you can be sure that the 'bad guys' are doing the same right now too. Web sites that already carry malware or target unpatched browsers on unpatched or old Windows operating systems will soon start targeting Safari as well.

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Undoubtedly, Apple will quickly release fixes and updates for Safari on both the Mac and PC, both before and after the 'final' 3.0 release of Safari arrives, just as IE and Firefox do today.

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More at link.

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12856/1103/ (http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12856/1103/)

More at link.

http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12856/1103/ (http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/12856/1103/)


Update! http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9729505-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

FYI,

Realize this is still in Beta, but something to keep in mind for people using this in its current state. Safari has security holes (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2145651,00.asp)

The problem with any and all browsers is that they will have bugs in them. Lets all go back to the times of Lynx and text-based browsers with no-HTML/XTML/PHP... wait, stop looking at me like I'm crazy. In all seriousness though, as long as a browser is heavily used ('mainstream') it will have security holes. Internet Explorer 7 does, Firefox 2 does, Opera 9 does, Safari does... it doesn't matter at the end of the day. Just make sure you have a decent firewall, anti-spy(ad)ware, and anti-virus - you should be alright.
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As for being a little more on-topic: Safari for PC is alright. It is kind of weird feeling, considering I'm not a big Mac fan (I'll be honest about that). Although, since I've done technical support for Macs in the past - it's nice to see some of the same places to change information. Perhaps once it gets out of beta that some ISP's Technical Support will support it on PC as well as a Mac. Who's to say..?

The problem with any and all browsers is that they will have bugs in them. Lets all go back to the times of Lynx and text-based browsers with no-HTML/XTML/PHP... wait, stop looking at me like I'm crazy. In all seriousness though, as long as a browser is heavily used ('mainstream') it will have security holes. Internet Explorer 7 does, Firefox 2 does, Opera 9 does, Safari does... it doesn't matter at the end of the day. Just make sure you have a decent firewall, anti-spy(ad)ware, and anti-virus - you should be alright.
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As for being a little more on-topic: Safari for PC is alright. It is kind of weird feeling, considering I'm not a big Mac fan (I'll be honest about that). Although, since I've done technical support for Macs in the past - it's nice to see some of the same places to change information. Perhaps once it gets out of beta that some ISP's Technical Support will support it on PC as well as a Mac. Who's to say..?

Indeed. I found it more concerning that so many were found in such a short time frame. May be best to wait until its out of beta for all but advanced users.

Not to sound like I'm bashing Apple when I say this (though it may come out that way); but, most of the PC-based applications that Apple has made has had plenty of bugs and security issues. I do commend them on trying to work multi-platforms (while being a leader in the OS industry as well); but, perhaps they should try to linger back to their own system as they know/understand it better. Windows, itself, can be a bit problematic in regards to developing (security-wise, I'm saying). And to toss the coin, Microsoft's software on Apple (Microsoft Office, for instance) has been known to cause horrible bugs and crashes as well - same logic applies at the end of the day.
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And I would have to agree with you as well, if you don't know your system very well (security-wise and "geek sense", as some would call it) - stay clear of Safari until it's come out of Beta release. Sometimes once it gets to gold/official release, majority of the most "insecure" bugs are fixed anyways.

FYI,

Realize this is still in Beta, but something to keep in mind for people using this in its current state. Safari has security holes (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,2145651,00.asp)


That article is from the 12th. The link I posted is an article from the 14th where Apple addressed the 'bugs'.

Microsoft's software on Apple (Microsoft Office, for instance) has been known to cause horrible bugs and crashes as well - same logic applies at the end of the day.

Really? My husband and 10 year old stepson use parallels on their machines with zero problems. I also have Microsoft Office on my MacBook Pro and have never had a problem. :shrug:

That article is from the 12th. The link I posted is an article from the 14th where Apple addressed the 'bugs'.

They addressed 3 of them, there are still more.

Really? My husband and 10 year old stepson use parallels on their machines with zero problems. I also have Microsoft Office on my MacBook Pro and have never had a problem. :shrug:

The rule of thumb in computing: "What works for one, will not work for all." Microsoft Office for Mac has been through a lot of changes, sure - but there are still many people having problems with it. I do remember a few co-workers having problems when it first came out; but, I'm certain that all of the bugs haven't been worked out. It's just how software reacts to other software as well; PCs and Macs both have that "oh no, that program is touching the other program in the wrong way" problem from time to time. =)