When you surrender you pet to the shelter they give you a piece of paper to read that basically says they can do anything with that animal.

What that means is they can kill your pet before your car even leaves the parking lot.

If you surrender a pit mix of any kind that isn't a puppy or unless it has something really spectacular about it, well, it will be killed and put on a stack of other dead animals to be disposed of later.

If you surrender your old or sick pet chances are it will be killed sometime that day as well.

They try very hard to get all adoptable animals adopted. But admit it, dogs over 8 years old aren't always easily adoptable. If your animal is sick and has tumors, well, it's not very adoptable either. Sometimes these dogs might get lucky and a caring soul will walk in and decide to give that animal a place to live out it's life - or sometimes a rescuer will walk in and can't stand the thought that this poor senior animal, through no fault of it's own is going to die after spending who knows how many days at the shelter, confused and lonely - this rescuer will take it home and try desperately to find it a final forever home, or else they will let this senior animal live the rest of it's life with them.

Sometimes these senior or sick animals touch the rescuer so deeply that they will take them to the vet themselves and give them the honor and respect that their LOVING :sarcasm: owner didn't have the courage to do, and they will hold this animal in their arms and tell them they were loved while they make their peaceful trip to the Bridge.

Remember that when you surrender YOUR PET (that you really love and this is breaking your heart...) - if the shelter needs the space for a stray or any type of animal that will be involved in a legal issue - the owner surrenders ARE THE FIRST TO GO.

You are nothing but a coward - you called me "maybe" two days before you had to move and couldn't take your 12 year old dog with you, unfortunately I didn't get your message in time to help (not even sure I could have helped since you weren't giving me any time to work with). When I called you back you told me you had taken him to the shelter..., yes they told you it might be euthanized, but you had to move ...

You saved this dog 7 years ago from a shelter in a different state, and moved it here with you, yet this poor dog at about 12 years old was dumped, unwanted at ANOTHER shelter and that's where he probably has already been killed.

You disgust me, since you didn't take the time to try to find him another home in a decent amount of time, you most likely signed his death sentence, if for no other reason than his age. And you know what???? If he was a good dog, and got along with other dogs and was housebroke... I would have most likely taken him to my house (even though I'm full with foster dogs already) just to save him the confusion and terror he was subjected to at the shelter.

The least you could have done was taken him to the vet and had him humanely euthanized....

When you surrender you pet to the shelter they give you a piece of paper to read that basically says they can do anything with that animal.

What that means is they can kill your pet before your car even leaves the parking lot.

If you surrender a pit mix of any kind that isn't a puppy or unless it has something really spectacular about it, well, it will be killed and put on a stack of other dead animals to be disposed of later.

If you surrender your old or sick pet chances are it will be killed sometime that day as well.

They try very hard to get all adoptable animals adopted. But admit it, dogs over 8 years old aren't always easily adoptable. If your animal is sick and has tumors, well, it's not very adoptable either. Sometimes these dogs might get lucky and a caring soul will walk in and decide to give that animal a place to live out it's life - or sometimes a rescuer will walk in and can't stand the thought that this poor senior animal, through no fault of it's own is going to die after spending who knows how many days at the shelter, confused and lonely - this rescuer will take it home and try desperately to find it a final forever home, or else they will let this senior animal live the rest of it's life with them.

Sometimes these senior or sick animals touch the rescuer so deeply that they will take them to the vet themselves and give them the honor and respect that their LOVING :sarcasm: owner didn't have the courage to do, and they will hold this animal in their arms and tell them they were loved while they make their peaceful trip to the Bridge.

Remember that when you surrender YOUR PET (that you really love and this is breaking your heart...) - if the shelter needs the space for a stray or any type of animal that will be involved in a legal issue - the owner surrenders ARE THE FIRST TO GO.

You are nothing but a coward - you called me "maybe" two days before you had to move and couldn't take your 12 year old dog with you, unfortunately I didn't get your message in time to help (not even sure I could have helped since you weren't giving me any time to work with). When I called you back you told me you had taken him to the shelter..., yes they told you it might be euthanized, but you had to move ...

You saved this dog 7 years ago from a shelter in a different state, and moved it here with you, yet this poor dog at about 12 years old was dumped, unwanted at ANOTHER shelter and that's where he probably has already been killed.

You disgust me, since you didn't take the time to try to find him another home in a decent amount of time, you most likely signed his death sentence, if for no other reason than his age. And you know what???? If he was a good dog, and got along with other dogs and was housebroke... I would have most likely taken him to my house (even though I'm full with foster dogs already) just to save him the confusion and terror he was subjected to at the shelter.

The least you could have done was taken him to the vet and had him humanely euthanized....
WOW....unbelievable....that is terribly sad...

When you surrender you pet to the shelter they give you a piece of paper to read that basically says they can do anything with that animal.

What that means is they can kill your pet before your car even leaves the parking lot.

If you surrender a pit mix of any kind that isn't a puppy or unless it has something really spectacular about it, well, it will be killed and put on a stack of other dead animals to be disposed of later.

If you surrender your old or sick pet chances are it will be killed sometime that day as well.

They try very hard to get all adoptable animals adopted. But admit it, dogs over 8 years old aren't always easily adoptable. If your animal is sick and has tumors, well, it's not very adoptable either. Sometimes these dogs might get lucky and a caring soul will walk in and decide to give that animal a place to live out it's life - or sometimes a rescuer will walk in and can't stand the thought that this poor senior animal, through no fault of it's own is going to die after spending who knows how many days at the shelter, confused and lonely - this rescuer will take it home and try desperately to find it a final forever home, or else they will let this senior animal live the rest of it's life with them.

Sometimes these senior or sick animals touch the rescuer so deeply that they will take them to the vet themselves and give them the honor and respect that their LOVING :sarcasm: owner didn't have the courage to do, and they will hold this animal in their arms and tell them they were loved while they make their peaceful trip to the Bridge.

Remember that when you surrender YOUR PET (that you really love and this is breaking your heart...) - if the shelter needs the space for a stray or any type of animal that will be involved in a legal issue - the owner surrenders ARE THE FIRST TO GO.

You are nothing but a coward - you called me "maybe" two days before you had to move and couldn't take your 12 year old dog with you, unfortunately I didn't get your message in time to help (not even sure I could have helped since you weren't giving me any time to work with). When I called you back you told me you had taken him to the shelter..., yes they told you it might be euthanized, but you had to move ...

You saved this dog 7 years ago from a shelter in a different state, and moved it here with you, yet this poor dog at about 12 years old was dumped, unwanted at ANOTHER shelter and that's where he probably has already been killed.

You disgust me, since you didn't take the time to try to find him another home in a decent amount of time, you most likely signed his death sentence, if for no other reason than his age. And you know what???? If he was a good dog, and got along with other dogs and was housebroke... I would have most likely taken him to my house (even though I'm full with foster dogs already) just to save him the confusion and terror he was subjected to at the shelter.

The least you could have done was taken him to the vet and had him humanely euthanized....


Thats very sad. :frown:

I wish Mily would calm the hell down. I'd take all the old and ugly dogs. She's much too obnoxious though....:frown:

When you surrender you pet to the shelter they give you a piece of paper to read that basically says they can do anything with that animal.

What that means is they can kill your pet before your car even leaves the parking lot.

If you surrender a pit mix of any kind that isn't a puppy or unless it has something really spectacular about it, well, it will be killed and put on a stack of other dead animals to be disposed of later.

If you surrender your old or sick pet chances are it will be killed sometime that day as well.

They try very hard to get all adoptable animals adopted. But admit it, dogs over 8 years old aren't always easily adoptable. If your animal is sick and has tumors, well, it's not very adoptable either. Sometimes these dogs might get lucky and a caring soul will walk in and decide to give that animal a place to live out it's life - or sometimes a rescuer will walk in and can't stand the thought that this poor senior animal, through no fault of it's own is going to die after spending who knows how many days at the shelter, confused and lonely - this rescuer will take it home and try desperately to find it a final forever home, or else they will let this senior animal live the rest of it's life with them.

Sometimes these senior or sick animals touch the rescuer so deeply that they will take them to the vet themselves and give them the honor and respect that their LOVING :sarcasm: owner didn't have the courage to do, and they will hold this animal in their arms and tell them they were loved while they make their peaceful trip to the Bridge.

Remember that when you surrender YOUR PET (that you really love and this is breaking your heart...) - if the shelter needs the space for a stray or any type of animal that will be involved in a legal issue - the owner surrenders ARE THE FIRST TO GO.

You are nothing but a coward - you called me "maybe" two days before you had to move and couldn't take your 12 year old dog with you, unfortunately I didn't get your message in time to help (not even sure I could have helped since you weren't giving me any time to work with). When I called you back you told me you had taken him to the shelter..., yes they told you it might be euthanized, but you had to move ...

You saved this dog 7 years ago from a shelter in a different state, and moved it here with you, yet this poor dog at about 12 years old was dumped, unwanted at ANOTHER shelter and that's where he probably has already been killed.

You disgust me, since you didn't take the time to try to find him another home in a decent amount of time, you most likely signed his death sentence, if for no other reason than his age. And you know what???? If he was a good dog, and got along with other dogs and was housebroke... I would have most likely taken him to my house (even though I'm full with foster dogs already) just to save him the confusion and terror he was subjected to at the shelter.

The least you could have done was taken him to the vet and had him humanely euthanized....

:clap: Extremely well said! I think everyone who drops off an animal should be made to walk through there and witness what goes on. See the animals terrified as they are walked into "the room", smell the stench, watch as the bodies are put in the incinerator. :huggy: to you, the shelter staff, and all who try to make a difference.

:clap: Extremely well said! I think everyone who drops off an animal should be made to walk through there and witness what goes on. See the animals terrified as they are walked into "the room", smell the stench, watch as the bodies are put in the incinerator. :huggy: to you, the shelter staff, and all who try to make a difference. Wouldn't want their job.

:bawl: :huggy: Why do people dispose of the elderly? Be it human or animal, no one seems to care for them anymore. It's so sad. I get sick everytime I go through the somd.com animal ads because I see so many kitties being born, so many puppies, all the elderly animals being given away and I feel like screaming at the top of my lungs what are you people thinking!!! With every kitten and puppy that is born thousands more like them are put to death because they can't find a home, or they are homeless and living in the streets. I wish they would outlaw the breeding of dogs and cats until the numbers were in control again. It just makes me sick. :bawl:

When you surrender you pet ....
That is so sad. :bawl:

What's more humane? To have an animal you really don't want, hardly feed it, no vet visits, outside all day or euthanize it?

What's more humane? To have an animal you really don't want, hardly feed it, no vet visits, outside all day or euthanize it?

More humane would be for the OWNER to do that...not dump it at the shelter for it to be terrified and then be put down.

There really should be a program where someone would come to your house for euthanization. Why should you have to subject your pet to the final indignity of a visit to the vet, when most of them hate that.

There really should be a program where someone would come to your house for euthanization. Why should you have to subject your pet to the final indignity of a visit to the vet, when most of them hate that.

Some vets actually do that.

When we took Boomer, our vet was actually going to let us stay with him in the back of the Explorer but his veins weren't very good (which is common with the old guys) and she felt that it would be a bit painful to find the veins. They gave him a little something to calm him..let him have some treats.. and then.. It was very sad, but done in a very gentle, humane and loving way.

but, the dog did get 7 more years...

but, the dog did get 7 more years...
:eyebrow:

"There is an Indian legend which says when a human dies there is a bridge they must cross to enter into heaven. At the head of that bridge waits every animal that human encountered during their lifetime. The animals, based upon what they know of this person, decide which humans may cross the bridge... and which are turned away..." Unknown

There really should be a program where someone would come to your house for euthanization. Why should you have to subject your pet to the final indignity of a visit to the vet, when most of them hate that.

My sister's vet came to the house and put her dog down when she (the dog) was going through kidney failure. Much better option I think. :yay:

My sister's vet came to the house and put her dog down when she (the dog) was going through kidney failure. Much better option I think. :yay:


Let's call MM's doctor. :biggrin:

:eyebrow:

"There is an Indian legend which says when a human dies there is a bridge they must cross to enter into heaven. At the head of that bridge waits every animal that human encountered during their lifetime. The animals, based upon what they know of this person, decide which humans may cross the bridge... and which are turned away..." UnknownIs this a positive or a negative?
Did the guy save the animal for an additional 7 years or not? :confused:

I don't see how productive it is calling people names that did what they feel they had to do.. You may not agree with what they did, but you aren't in their shoes.. The first grade playground tactic of namecalling seems.. well.. childish.

Let's call MM's doctor. :biggrin:
:lmao:

Let's call MM's doctor. :biggrin:Awww, thats not very nice is it? :smile:

Awww, thats not very nice is it? :smile:

Well you're not being very nice.

Awww, thats not very nice is it? :smile:
No, but it was funny. :huggy:

Well you're not being very nice.How so?

I don't see how productive it is calling people names that did what they feel they had to do.. You may not agree with what they did, but you aren't in their shoes.. The first grade playground tactic of namecalling seems.. well.. childish.

Well, you may think they did what they "felt they had to do", but what they had a responsibility to do for their pet, was to see it humanely euthanized if they couldn't find it a home.

I have apologized in the past for calling people names, but there is no excuse for this.

If I met this man on the street and he told me what he did, I would look him in the eye and tell him he's a coward. I would also hope like H*** that I didn't know him as a friend, because our relationship would forever be changed.

How so?


Because people like you and Bob are only posting in here to be pissy. Those of us that work in rescue love animals and work tirelessly to help them.

Have you been in a shelter and seen a loving pet left at the counter? Seen the look in their eyes as their beloved masters turn their backs and walk out the door? It's heartbreaking. Have you seen pets abused, starved..left to die? When you see this on a constant basis, you may lose sight of your objectivity.

Animals are like children, they don't ask to be here and it is the responsibility of humans to take care of them.

I don't think calling somebody a 'coward' is name calling. It is fitting. Cowards take the easy way out, which is exactly what this owner did.

Because people like you and Bob are only posting in here to be pissy. Those of us that work in rescue love animals and work tirelessly to help them.

Have you been in a shelter and seen a loving pet left at the counter? Seen the look in their eyes as their beloved masters turn their backs and walk out the door? It's heartbreaking. Have you seen pets abused, starved..left to die? When you see this on a constant basis, you may lose sight of your objectivity.

Animals are like children, they don't ask to be here and it is the responsibility of humans to take care of them.

I don't think calling somebody a 'coward' is name calling. It is fitting. Cowards take the easy way out, which is exactly what this owner did.I was not being pissy at all... :shrug:

But by all means, continue thy rant....

I was not being pissy at all... :shrug:

But by all means, continue thy rant....

No point.

I was focusing on the positive, or so I thought... The dog got 7 years that he would not have had otherwise...

I was focusing on the positive, or so I thought... The dog got 7 years that he would not have had otherwise...

and the dog will be put down in a humane way. Some fools leave a dog out to starve. In a shelter they are surrounded by people that love animals. I wouldn't do this, but I have seen humans do worse. RIP old dog :flowers:

I was focusing on the positive, or so I thought... The dog got 7 years that he would not have had otherwise...

quit stirring the pot :nono: You're being really mean!

Well, you may think they did what they "felt they had to do", but what they had a responsibility to do for their pet, was to see it humanely euthanized if they couldn't find it a home.

I have apologized in the past for calling people names, but there is no excuse for this.

If I met this man on the street and he told me what he did, I would look him in the eye and tell him he's a coward. I would also hope like H*** that I didn't know him as a friend, because our relationship would forever be changed.
And how do you think HE feels having to do what he did? Do you think he wanted to kill his family pet? I doubt it, or why would they have saved it 7 years ago. Let's have some sympathy and compassion for the HUMANS involved.

Would it make you feel better if he had dug a hole in his backyard and put a bullet in the dog's head? And how is taking the dog to the vet to get euthanized any different than taking it to the pound other than you KNOW the chance of adoption at the vet is ZERO! When you leave your pet at the shelter there is a chance, albeit a SMALL one, that the dog COULD be adopted.

I was focusing on the positive, or so I thought... The dog got 7 years that he would not have had otherwise...

Perhaps you were. I'm an animal loony. I equate it to being in love with somebody..say a nice girl. and she wants to leave you but feels sorry for you..so she stays..oh, lets say for 7 more years...after being in a relationship or married..let's say you develop an illness..or you just get old and become a pain in the ass and she says "c ya" or worse yet, takes you to a nursing home, never to return. I don't see any difference in what "coward" did.

And yes, for most people, this is not rational thinking. Eff 'em...it's me.

quit stirring the pot :nono: You're being really mean!

Right on time. :rolleyes:

I was focusing on the positive, or so I thought... The dog got 7 years that he would not have had otherwise...
Ed Zachary!!

Perhaps you were. I'm an animal loony. I equate it to being in love with somebody..say a nice girl. and she wants to leave you but feels sorry for you..so she stays..oh, lets say for 7 more years...after being in a relationship or married..let's say you develop an illness..or you just get old and become a pain in the ass and she says "c ya" or worse yet, takes you to a nursing home, never to return. I don't see any difference in what "coward" did.

And yes, for most people, this is not rational thinking. Eff 'em...it's me.
Otter is lucky he has you. :huggy:

Nothing but a Coward 06-19-2007 01:02 PM move the #### to california

Whoever left me this karma can :biteme:

And how do you think HE feels having to do what he did? Do you think he wanted to kill his family pet? I doubt it, or why would they have saved it 7 years ago. Let's have some sympathy and compassion for the HUMANS involved.

Would it make you feel better if he had dug a hole in his backyard and put a bullet in the dog's head? And how is taking the dog to the vet to get euthanized any different than taking it to the pound other than you KNOW the chance of adoption at the vet is ZERO! When you leave your pet at the shelter there is a chance, albeit a SMALL one, that the dog COULD be adopted.
It would be less traumatic for an older dog (any dog) to be euthanized at home or a vet w/ a person that would comfort him in the final hour, than be caged at the shelter, a totally unfamiliar place w/ strange smells and sounds - no doubt a dog that is dropped there is scared and wondering where his human went. The chance of an older dog being adopted from the shelter is very low if at all, and the stress on the dog is very high.

This is also a good time to mention rescues. When you adopt an animal from a rescue, if something happens and you can not have an animal anymore, Most ,if not all rescues will take back the animal and find a home for them. Avoid breeders and pet stores and stick to rescues. It is the best choice by far.

I once was in Park Vet on G Mills rd and this guy came in and the tech started talking to this guys dog saying "it will be ok, your going to doggie heaven". Well this dog looked healthy to me so I asked the vet why was he having the dog put down. The answer shocked the hell out of me. I was told because it was his dog and thats what he wanted to do, nothing wrong with the dog. So sad. I will never forget that dog. Now, Dr. Veitch, I call him Dr Kaveitchian, he used to be at 3 notch, well he will come to your house. He did this with my beloved Bailey. And I will thank him for the rest of my life.

My sweet rescue doggie is going to be 16 next month, and I dread the day that she dies. She was my "baby" before I birthed one myself, and she's been a remarkable friend through all these years. Truly, she's been all that and more.

And best yet, she still gives me the most wonderful doggy kisses.

I'm honestly confused. Are you saying this guy didn't reach out to ANYONE to help him???

A year ago I was in the middle of a job search. I moved in with family temporarily. My dog technically shouldn't have been at the residence and I spent plenty of hours praying that I'd be able to take care of her until I found another job. I actually had an aunt and uncle who volunteered several months before to take her in if need be, but when the time came, they had already adopted an older bulldog who did not get along with ANY other dogs.

Long story short: I got a job before I had to turn my baby over to a shelter.

Are you telling me that I should have thought about bringing her to a vet where she had zero chance of being adopted????

I think you're outlook is slightly skewed. You are harping on this person because he went through a major transition in his life....

I feel sorry for the pup but sometimes $h1# happens.

I'm honestly confused. Are you saying this guy didn't reach out to ANYONE to help him???

A year ago I was in the middle of a job search. I moved in with family temporarily. My dog technically shouldn't have been at the residence and I spent plenty of hours praying that I'd be able to take care of her until I found another job. I actually had an aunt and uncle who volunteered several months before to take her in if need be, but when the time came, they had already adopted an older bulldog who did not get along with ANY other dogs.

Long story short: I got a job before I had to turn my baby over to a shelter.

Are you telling me that I should have thought about bringing her to a vet where she had zero chance of being adopted????

I think you're outlook is slightly skewed. You are harping on this person because he went through a major transition in his life....

I feel sorry for the pup but sometimes $h1# happens.

Yes, sometimes disaster strikes without warning. I think what is being talked about here is the person who calls and leaves a message saying "I'm moving this weekend and can't take my dog". Can't tell me they didn't know they were moving before then. They had to have been looking for a place, packing their things, etc. Usually takes at the least a month or so. When asked they say they didn't look for another home, no add in the paper, classifieds, bulliten board, friends, family, nothing! It's called commitment. If you can't under any circumstance find a way to keep your pet at least do all you can to help find another home. They just leave a message and expect you to scramble around at the 11th hour and pull out a miracle. Far be it for them to inconvience themselves in the least. If you don't, he calmly walks into the shelter and leaves his responsibility for someone else to handle.

Yes, sometimes disaster strikes without warning. I think what is being talked about here is the person who calls and leaves a message saying "I'm moving this weekend and can't take my dog". Can't tell me they didn't know they were moving before then. They had to have been looking for a place, packing their things, etc. Usually takes at the least a month or so. When asked they say they didn't look for another home, no add in the paper, classifieds, bulliten board, friends, family, nothing! It's called commitment. If you can't under any circumstance find a way to keep your pet at least do all you can to help find another home. They just leave a message and expect you to scramble around at the 11th hour and pull out a miracle. Far be it for them to inconvience themselves in the least. If you don't, he calmly walks into the shelter and leaves his responsibility for someone else to handle.So it's how he worded his message? What if he would have said.... "I had made arrangements but they just fell through at the last minute"... would that have been better? :confused:

Maybe he is not the type of person to offer up every little detail about his life in a phone message to someone he doesn't know....

And no, I don't know what this guys situation or circumstances were, nor do any of you..... This might have been the most painful thing the person ever had to do... Yall make me not want to own an animal...

Yes, sometimes disaster strikes without warning. I think what is being talked about here is the person who calls and leaves a message saying "I'm moving this weekend and can't take my dog". Can't tell me they didn't know they were moving before then. They had to have been looking for a place, packing their things, etc. Usually takes at the least a month or so. ........ If you can't under any circumstance find a way to keep your pet at least do all you can to help find another home. They just leave a message and expect you to scramble around at the 11th hour and pull out a miracle. Far be it for them to inconvience themselves in the least. If you don't, he calmly walks into the shelter and leaves his responsibility for someone else to handle.

Exactly, leave a message on my phone probably on Thursday when I work a two-job day, when his "drop dead date" was on FRIDAY???

Unless I can take the dog to my house (which anyone that knows me knows I already have my hands full w/foster dogs), my chances of helping that dog would have been non-existent with no time frame to work with.

I STILL would have taken that dog if it was healthy and dog friendly, because I care way too much.....

He took the lazy, cowardly way out. There are times that things do happen, I know that, we all know that, but almost everyone can find someone that can help for a couple of days if it's truly an emergency.

Too many people are too willing to let someone else handle their problems.

Be honest with yourself, if your dogs chances of being adopted are next to nil (you know that... age or attitude, or BREED) - do the responsible thing and give that pet the RESPECT it deserves, don't leave it somewhere that it's going to be stressed out and scared, only to die.

Yes, taking your pet to the shelter is more humane than leaving it out to starve but be honest... what are it's chances of being adopted?

If you don't look for a home for your pet you are lazy, if you dump your elderly pet you are a Coward.

If you want a rescue to work with you, give us some time, most of us will do everything in our power to help you.

Yes, sometimes disaster strikes without warning. I think what is being talked about here is the person who calls and leaves a message saying "I'm moving this weekend and can't take my dog". Can't tell me they didn't know they were moving before then. They had to have been looking for a place, packing their things, etc. Usually takes at the least a month or so. When asked they say they didn't look for another home, no add in the paper, classifieds, bulliten board, friends, family, nothing! It's called commitment. If you can't under any circumstance find a way to keep your pet at least do all you can to help find another home. They just leave a message and expect you to scramble around at the 11th hour and pull out a miracle. Far be it for them to inconvience themselves in the least. If you don't, he calmly walks into the shelter and leaves his responsibility for someone else to handle.

I'm glad you live in a pristine world where you know what's going on months in advance. When I got to the point that I was unemployed for 3 months (yes I anticipated being unemployed for no more than 3 months) I looked at my options and found out that my Proverbial Cheese had moved. I don't think we know the whole story. I'm not defending the guy just giving him the benefit of doubt. How do you know he wasn't bawling and choked up when he left the pup??

How do you know he doesn't leave 20 bucks in the jar at the shelter every month or so??? You don't.

If you don't look for a home for your pet you are lazy, if you dump your elderly pet you are a Coward.
You forgot the part about don't dare start a thread or post an ad trying to find a home for your pet because you will immediately be labeled an evil, uncaring, person who should have never made an attempt to be a dog owner ever. :ohwell:

blow your brain out instead karma giver.... :kiss:

blow your brain out instead karma giver.... :kiss:
:bawl:

blow your brain out instead karma giver.... :kiss::nono: You *better* not be talking about me in that tone of voice.

:nono: You *better* not be talking about me in that tone of voice.No darling...:love:

:nono: You *better* not be talking about me in that tone of voice.And some stupid azz summa biatch sent me red karma for this.

:bawl:

You forgot the part about don't dare start a thread or post an ad trying to find a home for your pet because you will immediately be labeled an evil, uncaring, person who should have never made an attempt to be a dog owner ever. :ohwell:

I may "think" someone trying to rehome their dog is doing it for a totally stupid reason to me, but I won't try to talk someone into keeping a pet if they have already made up their mind.

I'd much rather see you try to rehome your own dog, so long as you aren't just giving it to the first Tom, Dick or Harry that shows up....

I may "think" someone trying to rehome their dog is doing it for a totally stupid reason to me, but I won't try to talk someone into keeping a pet if they have already made up their mind.

I'd much rather see you try to rehome your own dog, so long as you aren't just giving it to the first Tom, Dick or Harry that shows up....
Oh I completely agree, but others are quick to attack those who actively attempt to find a home for their pet. :ohwell:

Nothing but a Coward 06-19-2007 02:47 PM OR..... you could effing move to cali with the rest of the humus eatin birkenstock and wool sock wearin underarm hair farmers


Ok now, take a deep breath....

Let it out....

Feel better now? :biggrin:


:baby:

My sweet rescue doggie is going to be 16 next month, and I dread the day that she dies. She was my "baby" before I birthed one myself, and she's been a remarkable friend through all these years. Truly, she's been all that and more.

And best yet, she still gives me the most wonderful doggy kisses.
Watching you and her interact is something special.. someday I hope to earn that kind of lovin..

In a shelter they are surrounded by people that love animals.Really? :confused:

Isn't sending the dog to a shelter more humane than some of the alternatives? I have seen people drive their unwanted dog miles away and set it free. I've also heard of people who have thrown a dog off the bridge, shot their dog, and worse. I realize that the shelter isn't the best choice, but isn't it a lot better than some of the other options?

:blahblah::blahblah::blahblah:
Would it make you feel better if he had dug a hole in his backyard and put a bullet in the dog's head? :blahblah::blahblah::blahblah:

YES! The dog would have perferred the master's bullet to the stranger's needle.

And some stupid azz summa biatch sent me red karma for this.

:bawl:
Me, too. :lol: Mainman has a fan! :party:

Nothing but a Coward 06-19-2007 03:54 PM Mainman was on target...

Isn't sending the dog to a shelter more humane than some of the alternatives? I have seen people drive their unwanted dog miles away and set it free. I've also heard of people who have thrown a dog off the bridge, shot their dog, and worse. I realize that the shelter isn't the best choice, but isn't it a lot better than some of the other options?

You're missing the whole point. People that do that are worse than cowards and I don't think they could ever be accused of "loving" an animal.

Those type of people are animal abusers.

At 12 years old, the best option short of not keeping it, would have been to humanely and lovingly had it put to sleep. And yes, I did check, this dog was euthanized the same day it was "surrendered".

Here was a dog that probably went inside the shelter willingly with it's owner of 7 years, might have been a little confused when they took it to the back, but then that confusion was most likely replaced by terror, not knowing what that smell was, but knowing it wasn't good.

Had he been taken to the vet, he'd have walked in willingly, gone to the room willingly and looking adoringly at his owner while he was painlessly euthanized and would have passed peacefully.

You're missing the whole point. People that do that are worse than cowards and I don't think they could ever be accused of "loving" an animal.

Those type of people are animal abusers.

At 12 years old, the best option short of not keeping it, would have been to humanely and lovingly had it put to sleep. And yes, I did check, this dog was euthanized the same day it was "surrendered".

Here was a dog that probably went inside the shelter willingly with it's owner of 7 years, might have been a little confused when they took it to the back, but then that confusion was most likely replaced by terror, not knowing what that smell was, but knowing it wasn't good.

Had he been taken to the vet, he'd have walked in willingly, gone to the room willingly and looking adoringly at his owner while he was painlessly euthanized and would have passed peacefully.

I agree wholeheartedly. We're new to fostering but currently have 8 foster dogs, many of whom were "well loved" by the owners who took them to the shelter. These dogs range in age from 12 weeks to 10+ years. If we had more room we'd have more just to make sure they don't go through the terror of being put to death in a strange place among strangers. And, yet, there are still people on the forums looking for pups and there are still ads in the classifieds selling pups. The rescues are there to pick up the throwaways after the pups are no longer cute, fun or prove to be a responsibility. It has got to stop. But, until it does, we'll still make our trips to the shelter and we'll still make the heartbreaking decision of who will live and who will die because we can't take them all.

If I eveer think I might want to get a dog, someone please just shoot me.

When you surrender you pet to the shelter they give you a piece of paper to read that basically says they can do anything with that animal.

What that means is they can kill your pet before your car even leaves the parking lot.

If you surrender a pit mix of any kind that isn't a puppy or unless it has something really spectacular about it, well, it will be killed and put on a stack of other dead animals to be disposed of later.

If you surrender your old or sick pet chances are it will be killed sometime that day as well.

They try very hard to get all adoptable animals adopted. But admit it, dogs over 8 years old aren't always easily adoptable. If your animal is sick and has tumors, well, it's not very adoptable either. Sometimes these dogs might get lucky and a caring soul will walk in and decide to give that animal a place to live out it's life - or sometimes a rescuer will walk in and can't stand the thought that this poor senior animal, through no fault of it's own is going to die after spending who knows how many days at the shelter, confused and lonely - this rescuer will take it home and try desperately to find it a final forever home, or else they will let this senior animal live the rest of it's life with them.

Sometimes these senior or sick animals touch the rescuer so deeply that they will take them to the vet themselves and give them the honor and respect that their LOVING :sarcasm: owner didn't have the courage to do, and they will hold this animal in their arms and tell them they were loved while they make their peaceful trip to the Bridge.

Remember that when you surrender YOUR PET (that you really love and this is breaking your heart...) - if the shelter needs the space for a stray or any type of animal that will be involved in a legal issue - the owner surrenders ARE THE FIRST TO GO.

You are nothing but a coward - you called me "maybe" two days before you had to move and couldn't take your 12 year old dog with you, unfortunately I didn't get your message in time to help (not even sure I could have helped since you weren't giving me any time to work with). When I called you back you told me you had taken him to the shelter..., yes they told you it might be euthanized, but you had to move ...

You saved this dog 7 years ago from a shelter in a different state, and moved it here with you, yet this poor dog at about 12 years old was dumped, unwanted at ANOTHER shelter and that's where he probably has already been killed.

You disgust me, since you didn't take the time to try to find him another home in a decent amount of time, you most likely signed his death sentence, if for no other reason than his age. And you know what???? If he was a good dog, and got along with other dogs and was housebroke... I would have most likely taken him to my house (even though I'm full with foster dogs already) just to save him the confusion and terror he was subjected to at the shelter.

The least you could have done was taken him to the vet and had him humanely euthanized....

Good lord. It's sad that this can happen, but you do not seem to know the personal situation. There are times when someone has to move and they cannot take the dog. But I guess you would rather jump to conclutions.

Good lord. It's sad that this can happen, but you do not seem to know the personal situation. There are times when someone has to move and they cannot take the dog. But I guess you would rather jump to conclutions.

Try walking through the shelter two or three times a week, speaking with the shelter staff and then see how well you do NOT jumping to conclusions. Look into the eyes of the staff member who has just put to sleep one of the most beautiful animals in the world only because there was no room and no rescue to take it in time and then see how well you do NOT jumping to conclusions.

If I eveer think I might want to get a dog, someone please just shoot me.

:nono: That would not be "humane"...

Good lord. It's sad that this can happen, but you do not seem to know the personal situation. There are times when someone has to move and they cannot take the dog. But I guess you would rather jump to conclutions.

A number of my own personal dogs are "unadoptable" to anyone else. Some is behaviour, a couple are age, and a couple are breed.

I can't imagine anything happening that I wouldn't take the time to take my pet to the vet and give them the respect they deserve while they make their trip to the bridge vice dumping them at the shelter and subjecting them to a terror they have never been exposed to before.

That's my conclusion.... People KNOW in their heart when they take their dog to the shelter whether it really stands a chance of being adopted.

Puppy = good chance
Golden Retriever = good chance
Small dog = good chance
Labrador = decent/good chance (depends how many the shelter has at that particular time)
Young pure bred German Shepherd = good chance
Pitbull puppy = decent chance if rescue will pull it

1 yr or older Pitbull = none (unless there is something really remarkable about it)
Older Rottweiler = slim to none
Senior big dog = slim to none
Black dog (not lab) = slim to none
Beagle = ha... deserves it's own category, too many times the shelter is probably 70-85% beagles = so Most / slim
Cane Corso/Presa Canario/Am Bulldog = usually rescue only - chances are decent IF rescue has room

This list is the tip of the iceberg.

Fortunately for some breeds there are very good active Breed specific rescues (Lab, Beagle, GSD), other breeds aren't so lucky, especially in this area. There are no local Rottweiler rescues, the closest is in VA and she's always full. A good pitbull rescue, none local.

Most breed specific groups will only take the dogs w/o issues, no agression toward people (most groups practice that) or other animals, they will pick and choose. So the lab that has food agression or possession agression, may be left because the shelter in the next county has a better candidate for adoption.

The other groups, we come in and take what we can, what we can deal with and fill what space we have available. We are usually the one's that will deal with some of the behaviour issues and we are the one's that will take any breed.

The rescues are there to pick up the throwaways after the pups are no longer cute, fun or prove to be a responsibility. It has got to stop. But, until it does, we'll still make our trips to the shelter and we'll still make the heartbreaking decision of who will live and who will die because we can't take them all.

Krazd Kat,
I understand everything that you are saying other than the fact that this person is a coward. I personally would have done the same thing as this gentleman if in the same situation and I nearly WAS. To be totally honest with you, I was more worried about my what would happen to my pup than my own self at the time. I got lucky in the nick of time and everything worked out for me. The only issue I have now, is that I live in an apartment and my pup would prefer to be outside most of the day. I currently have to crate her while at work because she has no qualms about going inside. (usually she does this when she's mad at me for going to work)

I found my pup on rte 5 trying to get hit by a car. I reported her found and adopted her when nobody claimed her. I had her fixed and updated her shots. I fed her until she was a healthy weight. 6 months later when she had a serious accident, I shelled out more than 2000 dollars to keep her alive. Over the last 2 years I've spent more than 500 dollars for annual and unexpected vet visits. I lined up family to care for her if my job hunt was unsuccessful and you would call me a coward if I had brought her to a shelter as a last resort. Shame on you.

I truly feel sorry for the aforementioned pup. But you obviously need to stay away from the shelters for awhile as you are becoming overly sensitive to a worldwide problem.

I lined up family to care for her if my job hunt was unsuccessful and you would call me a coward if I had brought her to a shelter as a last resort. Shame on you.

No, I'm calling a coward one that drops their dog off with the full knowledge that at 12 yrs old the chances of it being adopted are ZERO.

You had family lined up to help.... In a true emergency almost anyone can find someone to help them. Waiting until the day before your drop dead date to try to find help is pure lazy.

Is your dog adoptable? If for some reason you couldn't keep it, is it honestly adoptable? Is the shelter staff going to look at it and compare it to the other 10-15 dogs that come in that day see a dog that will have a good chance of being adopted, or are they going to take it straight back to the kill room?

If your answer is it's not adoptable, and you STILL drop it at the shelter, then yes, you are a coward.

This whole thread hinges on <b>You, the owner,</b> being honest with yourself and admitting whether or not your pet has a chance of being adopted from the shelter.

<b>IF</b> it has a chance of being adopted and that is your last resort, then by all means use it, if the chances are next to zero, be the friend to your dog that it was to you, give it the respect it deserves and do it humanely, without the fear and confusion it will experience before it dies at the shelter.

If the rescuers stay away from the shelters, then owner surrenders will die even faster. They HAVE to keep strays for so long and they HAVE to keep anything that comes in that may result in an investigation for so long... if they need the cages, the owner surrenders die, even the adoptable ones.

you are becoming overly sensitive to a worldwide problem.

A MAN made problem. Only when people quit treating their pets as disposable will this problem start getting anywhere under control.

So you are saying that the "Humane Society" is quite the opposite.

I agree with this being a man made problem... as is the deer population.

I'm an animal lover but I do my best to not allow myself to get overzealous on the subject....

I will advise friends and family to NOT adopt a mill pet.
I will advise friends and family who I know are incapable of properly caring for a pet to not adopt or buy.
I will not call a person a coward who cared for an animal 7 years longer than he had to just because he wouldn't shell out $100 to euthanize it. I'd call him CHEAP..... there's a big difference.

I will not call a person a coward who cared for an animal 7 years longer than he had to just because he wouldn't shell out $100 to euthanize it. I'd call him CHEAP..... there's a big difference.

I'm not sure I understand. He adopted the animal, he wanted the animal. When he adopted it from the rescue, he most probably signed an agreement to care for that animal for the duration of its life or return it to the rescue.

I know circumstances change and I certainly don't know what happened with this gentleman but I just don't think he put too much effort into finding a better alternative than the shelter.

So you are saying that the "Humane Society" is quite the opposite.
....... I will not call a person a coward who cared for an animal 7 years <b>longer than he had to</b> just because he wouldn't shell out $100 to euthanize it. I'd call him CHEAP..... there's a big difference.

Don't get me started on the Humane Society... they are "no-kill", BUT if they can't get an animal adopted after a certain length of time... they take that animal to the SHELTER (oh and guess what??? They kill it...).

You make it sound like the man was doing the dog and society a favor by keeping it 7 years longer than he had too... (What, it wasn't a 'loved' addition to the family?)

You call it cheap if you want, I still say if you can't stand up to your commitments (and yes, I do consider this a commitment) then you are a coward. After 7 years, he "OWED" this dog respect and dignity.

If I eveer think I might want to get a dog, someone please just shoot me.My dog is awesome. Her farts make paint blister.

When you surrender you pet to the shelter they give you a piece of paper to read that basically says they can do anything with that animal.

What that means is they can kill your pet before your car even leaves the parking lot.

If you surrender a pit mix of any kind that isn't a puppy or unless it has something really spectacular about it, well, it will be killed and put on a stack of other dead animals to be disposed of later.

If you surrender your old or sick pet chances are it will be killed sometime that day as well.

They try very hard to get all adoptable animals adopted. But admit it, dogs over 8 years old aren't always easily adoptable. If your animal is sick and has tumors, well, it's not very adoptable either. Sometimes these dogs might get lucky and a caring soul will walk in and decide to give that animal a place to live out it's life - or sometimes a rescuer will walk in and can't stand the thought that this poor senior animal, through no fault of it's own is going to die after spending who knows how many days at the shelter, confused and lonely - this rescuer will take it home and try desperately to find it a final forever home, or else they will let this senior animal live the rest of it's life with them.

Sometimes these senior or sick animals touch the rescuer so deeply that they will take them to the vet themselves and give them the honor and respect that their LOVING :sarcasm: owner didn't have the courage to do, and they will hold this animal in their arms and tell them they were loved while they make their peaceful trip to the Bridge.

Remember that when you surrender YOUR PET (that you really love and this is breaking your heart...) - if the shelter needs the space for a stray or any type of animal that will be involved in a legal issue - the owner surrenders ARE THE FIRST TO GO.

You are nothing but a coward - you called me "maybe" two days before you had to move and couldn't take your 12 year old dog with you, unfortunately I didn't get your message in time to help (not even sure I could have helped since you weren't giving me any time to work with). When I called you back you told me you had taken him to the shelter..., yes they told you it might be euthanized, but you had to move ...

You saved this dog 7 years ago from a shelter in a different state, and moved it here with you, yet this poor dog at about 12 years old was dumped, unwanted at ANOTHER shelter and that's where he probably has already been killed.

You disgust me, since you didn't take the time to try to find him another home in a decent amount of time, you most likely signed his death sentence, if for no other reason than his age. And you know what???? If he was a good dog, and got along with other dogs and was housebroke... I would have most likely taken him to my house (even though I'm full with foster dogs already) just to save him the confusion and terror he was subjected to at the shelter.

The least you could have done was taken him to the vet and had him humanely euthanized....

That is so sad, he deserved better. That reminds me of the Pedigree ad about the pups in the shelter, makes me cry everytime because it is so true. Have you been able to verify his fate at this time?

That is so sad, he deserved better. That reminds me of the Pedigree ad about the pups in the shelter, makes me cry everytime because it is so true. <b>Have you been able to verify his fate at this time?</b>

Yeah, that commercial gets me too....

Yes, he was euthanized Friday due to his age.

There really should be a program where someone would come to your house for euthanization. Why should you have to subject your pet to the final indignity of a visit to the vet, when most of them hate that.

When our 17 year old poodles, two of them were put to sleep, the vet was nice and came to our home. We didn't want them upset in any way and going to the vets always upset them.

When our 17 year old poodles, two of them were put to sleep, the vet was nice and came to our home. We didn't want them upset in any way and going to the vets always upset them.

Those are the kind of vets it's nice to have!