iPhone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown:

What's so good about them?

You get to spend $600 to make a phone call :lol:

iPhone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown:
:sucker: :killingme

What's so good about them?

Oh come on! What, do you live under a rock?!

These are the fantastic selling points of the iPod series devices:

They're hundreds of dollars for a relatively small harddrive space....

You have to deal with proprietary download sites where you pay $2 a song.....

It's nearly impossible to swap the song format to enable it to play on anything other than an Apple product.....

I bought the exact same thing as the Video iPod 3 years ago, for $200 less.....


And now the iPhone:

It costs even MORE....

You get even less hard drive space....

And you can talk into it!

What's not to like?!
(besides the fact that a regular old verizon phone with a 4 GB microsd can do the exact same thing.... for about $300 less)

It's nearly impossible to swap the song format to enable it to play on anything other than an Apple product.....

Since when? :lol: I've never had any problems with it. :shrug:

But I'd never buy an iPhone.

Since when? :lol: I've never had any problems with it. :shrug:

But I'd never buy an iPhone.

That's the main complaint I get from anyone with an iPod who comes into our store.

They always say that, if you download the music from iTunes, it's nearly impossible to get it to play in a cd player or anything. I wouldn't know... never fell into the trap.

But, thanks for proving my point. An actual iPod owner, and that's the one thing he/she disagrees with. :killingme:

That's the main complaint I get from anyone with an iPod who comes into our store.

They always say that, if you download the music from iTunes, it's nearly impossible to get it to play in a cd player or anything. I wouldn't know... never fell into the trap.

But, thanks for proving my point. An actual iPod owner, and that's the one thing he/she disagrees with. :killingme:
I have the 6GB Mini. It was a gift, almost three years ago, and I use it daily. I download my music exclusively from iTunes, where I can purchase a CD for $9.99, as opposed to the 15 or so dollars they charge in a store. I burn CDs from iTunes all the time, and have been successful in converting from m4p to mp3/wav/wma whenever necessary. As of yet, I have zero complaints. Granted, they are considerably more expensive than comparable systems, but whatever floats your boat, right? I think mocking someone based on their choice of music player or cell phone is a little juvenile.

I don't mock anyone for buying it.

I just mock the company for making it. :shrug:

I just mock the company for making it. :shrug:
Shoot, I think they're geniuses. Punks lined up for days to spend $600 on a phone? Somebody's crazy, and it's not Apple. :giggle:

Shoot, I think they're geniuses. Punks lined up for days to spend $600 on a phone? Somebody's crazy, and it's not Apple. :giggle:

wait... didn't you just say.... ah, nevermind.

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=3641729&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.2.1

Also as an Apple share holder, I think everyone should have one, just not me.

iPhone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown: :getdown:


Should of put it on ebay....Could of paid your mortgage this month with those prices. Absolutely ridiculous....

In the end its still just a phone....

http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-iPhone-new-in-box-I-AM-2ND-IN-THE-LINE-VIDEO-PIX_W0QQitemZ220126458952QQihZ012QQcategoryZ64355QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Cellphone idiots with more ways to kill people on the roads. :whistle:

I read there is a new version coming out by Christmas anyway. Apparently they didn't realize 3g (or maybe 4, I'm not technology savvy) would be available when they made this phone so they are scrambling to make one with this feature.

That's the main complaint I get from anyone with an iPod who comes into our store.

They always say that, if you download the music from iTunes, it's nearly impossible to get it to play in a cd player or anything. I wouldn't know... never fell into the trap.

But, thanks for proving my point. An actual iPod owner, and that's the one thing he/she disagrees with. :killingme:
Even if your job at the store is on the cleaning crew, you should know about Nero and similar products.

Even if your job at the store is on the cleaning crew, you should know about Nero and similar products.

I'm the floor manager... I have people who clean for me. :razz: I meant I didn't know personally how difficult it is. I always recommend nero or roxio, but I've heard people say, even when using burning software, it's still hard to do. :shrug:

But, like i said, I wouldn't know how hard it actually is because I would never put down the money for one. But, to each their own. I'm sure there are hundreds of people who feel the same about my Nintendo Wii as I feel about your iPhone. Just different strokes for different folks.

And, honestly, how much of a fanboy does someone have to be to leave blank, negative karma just because I said "I don't like iPod".

I'm the floor manager... I have people who clean for me. :razz: I meant I didn't know personally how difficult it is. I always recommend nero or roxio, but I've heard people say, even when using burning software, it's still hard to do. :shrug:

But, like i said, I wouldn't know how hard it actually is because I would never put down the money for one. But, to each their own. I'm sure there are hundreds of people who feel the same about my Nintendo Wii as I feel about your iPhone. Just different strokes for different folks.

And, honestly, how much of a fanboy does someone have to be to leave blank, negative karma just because I said "I don't like iPod".

I just use the CD burner program that is included in Windows Media Player, works just fine for me and its free!

well, you guys are obviously already technologically savvy.

some of my customers have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
one of them even admitted they never owned a computer.

for people that don't use electronics very often, and just wanted a way to carry music and videos, maybe the instruction booklet isn't clear or understandable?

like I keep saying, I would not know.... I was simply stating I don't feel that the iPod was as important or groundbreaking a device as everyone always says it is. And, for my money, I found much better for less elsewhere.

Obviously I'm not the only one who feels this way... (read every post on this forum from members other than you two), so why jump on my back? lol

:preparesformorenegativekarmafromthefanboys:

well, you guys are obviously already technologically savvy.

some of my customers have absolutely no idea what they're doing.
one of them even admitted they never owned a computer.

for people that don't use electronics very often, and just wanted a way to carry music and videos, maybe the instruction booklet isn't clear or understandable?

like I keep saying, I would not know.... I was simply stating I don't feel that the iPod was as important or groundbreaking a device as everyone always says it is. And, for my money, I found much better for less elsewhere.

Obviously I'm not the only one who feels this way... (read every post on this forum from members other than you two), so why jump on my back? lol

:preparesformorenegativekarmafromthefanboys:

iPod took an already existing product (MP3 Player) and made it simpler, stylish, and marketed it to the younger age group. Nothing all that different about it compared to other MP3 players, many new ones as you said have more features for a better price now. It's a mental thing, people think they want/need and iPod because of all the hype, they assume its the best thing around.

Husband called me tonight from an iPhone at the Apple Store at Christiana Mall. The sound was great.

He said I would love it. I keep telling him I don't want one. Not because I think it's a bad phone, but because I don't need something that fancy.

next thing ya know one of the features will be an integrated pregnancy test :yikes:

next thing ya know one of the features will be an integrated pregnancy test :yikes:


Would you have to pee on it? :faint:

Would you have to pee on it? :faint:
its waterproof to 20ft of course

its waterproof to 20ft of course

:lmao:

Husband called me tonight from an iPhone at the Apple Store at Christiana Mall. The sound was great.

He said I would love it. I keep telling him I don't want one. Not because I think it's a bad phone, but because I don't need something that fancy.
My apology! Your avatar had me thinking your a gay guy. :killingme

My apology! Your avatar had me thinking your a gay guy. :killingme


Who said I'm not? :confused:






















:killingme

A gay guy expecting a baby this month. :shocked:

I'd buy an iphone if it was on a 3g network like verizon. I left cingular/AT&T 2 years ago and won't ever go back. I had more dropped calls then any other phone company I have been with. If you live in or near DC great but down here it just sucks.

drive past wildewood shopping center - dropped call everytime all the way to about the hollywood light.
God forbid you want to talk down 231 or 381 for that matter.
Oh and right before the solomons bridge was real sketchy.

I'll keep my Treo 700w for a while..

Who said I'm not? :confused:

:killingme
OK, you're a pregnant gay guy. :confused:

A gay guy expecting a baby this month. :shocked:


:diva:

Oh come on! What, do you live under a rock?!

These are the fantastic selling points of the iPod series devices:

They're hundreds of dollars for a relatively small harddrive space....

You have to deal with proprietary download sites where you pay $2 a song.....

It's nearly impossible to swap the song format to enable it to play on anything other than an Apple product.....

I bought the exact same thing as the Video iPod 3 years ago, for $200 less.....


And now the iPhone:

It costs even MORE....

You get even less hard drive space....

And you can talk into it!

What's not to like?!
(besides the fact that a regular old verizon phone with a 4 GB microsd can do the exact same thing.... for about $300 less)
And don't forget the battery is not replaceable! If the battery loses charging power or dies... your only choice is to buy a new iPhone.

The iPhone: 10 Things Apple Did Right, 10 Things That Need Work (http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20070630/tc_pcworld/133638;_ylt=AvPbi7hcEDEO7aHb3BP8iG8DW7oF)

10 Things Apple Did Right in the iPhone
The display, the display, the display. Everything looks good on it. The menu design: It's simple and clean, and the home screen icons look like so much eye candy. Fingertip navigation, zooming and scrolling that's intuitive, effective and fast. Video playback that's so good you can tell when you've done a sub-par job of ripping your movies. Visual voicemail lets you get to the calls you care about faster. Great integrated applications, including Google Maps, YouTube, and a world clock that packs a timer, stopwatch and multiple alarms. Cover Flow. It's incredibly fun to choose your music by visually flipping through album art. It's tough: Our initial stress tests suggest that the iPhone is more durable than you might expect for such a sleek handset. The first Apple music player with a built-in speaker--and it's not half bad for a phone. No disconcerting "do not disconnect" messages when syncing with a PC.

10 Things They Did Wrong
We want our AOL Instant Messaging--and Yahoo and MSN IM clients, too. What about MMS support for sending picture mail? No voice recording--and more importantly, no voice dialing support. How are you supposed to use an iPhone with a hands-free car kit? It's the most locked-down phone we've ever seen. Not only can you not swap out the AT&T SIM card for one from another network, you can't even swap it out for another AT&T SIM card. AT&T is building out its mobile broadband network, but iPhone users are stuck with older EDGE technology--or battery-consuming Wi-Fi. You know those great headphones you already own? They won't fit the iPhones headset jack, so your first iPhone accessory will be a bulky, ugly $10 adapter. The software keyboard invites typos--but when you're entering passwords there's no way of telling whether you've got them right. It's great that the iPhone can reorient pages in Safari, CoverFlow, and the photo album, but why not extend that capability to other apps such as e-mail? Some messages could benefit from a widescreen display. And even when it does reorient, it doesn't always follow through with all features: CoverFlow loses access to the volume slider, for example. No support for custom ringtones, surprising in a music phone. The camera's rudimentary, with no audio/video or even zoom capability. No to-do list support, a basic in most calendar applications.

The iPhone: 10 Things Apple Did Right, 10 Things That Need Work (http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20070630/tc_pcworld/133638;_ylt=AvPbi7hcEDEO7aHb3BP8iG8DW7oF)




10 Things They Did Wrong
We want our AOL Instant Messaging--and Yahoo and MSN IM clients, too. What about MMS support for sending picture mail? No voice recording--and more importantly, no voice dialing support. How are you supposed to use an iPhone with a hands-free car kit? It's the most locked-down phone we've ever seen. Not only can you not swap out the AT&T SIM card for one from another network, you can't even swap it out for another AT&T SIM card. AT&T is building out its mobile broadband network, but iPhone users are stuck with older EDGE technology--or battery-consuming Wi-Fi. You know those great headphones you already own? They won't fit the iPhones headset jack, so your first iPhone accessory will be a bulky, ugly $10 adapter. The software keyboard invites typos--but when you're entering passwords there's no way of telling whether you've got them right. It's great that the iPhone can reorient pages in Safari, CoverFlow, and the photo album, but why not extend that capability to other apps such as e-mail? Some messages could benefit from a widescreen display. And even when it does reorient, it doesn't always follow through with all features: CoverFlow loses access to the volume slider, for example. No support for custom ringtones, surprising in a music phone. The camera's rudimentary, with no audio/video or even zoom capability. No to-do list support, a basic in most calendar applications.

I haven't read through this whole paragraph, but I can tell you that Macs have a chat program called iChat. It is compatible with AIM (not sure about the others). I chat with my friends all the time. They have AIM, I have iChat.

I haven't read through this whole paragraph, but I can tell you that Macs have a chat program called iChat. It is compatible with AIM (not sure about the others). I chat with my friends all the time. They have AIM, I have iChat.


Oops. I just asked me husband and he said iChat does not come on the iPhone. He insists it will in the future though.

Dang it! MORE blank negative karma from iPod fanboys.

At least someone gave me positive karma.... and giggled.... awkwardly.

ok, honestly....

why do i get negative karma? not that i give two hoots what you ipod buying fools think about me and my better monetary decisions....

but, three negative karma sends in one day is a little overkill.

just send me that last karma that says, "iPod Ro0lz n r0x y0r s0x n n0thng is betr"
and go back to listening to your itunes.

I think what it comes down to is the fact that a lot of folks are still PC based. So when they go out and purchase the iphone they already have a bunch of negative spilling out of their lips about it. Everything that apple comes out with...it WORKS! We have the G5 imac and never once have had a problem with it. Easy to use and to navigate. Same thing with the ipod. I got the 2GB mini when it first came out. Love that. I am just debating on whether to hold off or not to get the first generation iphone. Sure there are things that MAC could improve on. Not to worry they will. But you have to realize that the iphone isn't just a phone...its a miniature damn computer! So don't expect to get the clearest calls...considering iphone runs off of AT&T network. None of my calls are ever crystal clear. i think it is a great product. So for all you pc people, don't knock it till you try it. :yay:

My 2cents:

In my opinion the iPhone is seriously overpriced, both in terms of the phone (for what it does) and the monthly fee associated. People will pay it and if it makes you happy, its no different than owning some other luxury: Video game consoles, fancy car, fast PC, wine collection, whatever. I have no interest in AT&T as a cell carrier and I am doing fine with my free-with-plan phone that does nothing except make calls. However, if someone sifted through my luxuries and vices I'm sure they'd find something equally (if not more) impractical. So long as it makes you happy, just ignore those who are either jealous or can't see their own glass houses. I mean honestly, you bought a luxury phone, you didn't cure cancer and you didn't mug someone's grandma.

As for the iPod, it can be used as a standard MP3 player. I got one after my Zen died, mostly because I had store credit and didn't like any of the other music players as much. It contains only MP3s, I run it off my Windoz box, I haven't used iTunes in months and have never bought a song off of their site. Almost everything is from real CDs (so I can always re-rip them), transferred using other software. The few I have bought come from other MP3 sites.

don't whine about people bashing your ipods

And don't forget the battery is not replaceable! If the battery loses charging power or dies... your only choice is to buy a new iPhone.

Do you enjoy lying?

http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/

People complained and complained about the iPod when it first came out 5 years ago....too expensive, only works on Macs, why would anyone need so many songs?

Yes, the iPhone won't change the world but it will give more options to persons who can't stand their phones. Every time I type out a text message I feel like breaking my RAZR in half, the day I'm off my verizon contract I'm jumping to the iPhone. The iPhone is not aimed at people who already have treos, it is for regular consumers and I have no doubt that Apple will meet its goal of selling 10 million iPhones over the next year.

and those complaining about price,

Phone ($200) + iPod ($250) + portable internet (http://reviews.cnet.com/pdas/nokia-770-portable-internet/4505-3127_7-32432764.html) ($150) = $600 <- plus you don't have to hulk around three devices.

Do you enjoy lying?

I posted the info reported about the iphone from a TV news program. They specifically said the phone was "sealed" which meant you were stuck with the battery and then they talked about the fact that you couldn't replace the SIMM card. I didn't make it up. :rolleyes:

Ron Paul Campaign First to Provide iPhone Platform

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
July 2, 2007


ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA – The Ron Paul 2008 presidential campaign today became the first campaign to launch an iPhone platform. This new platform will allow iPhone users to access the campaign’s Web 2.0 applications, such as social networking tools and online videos, directly from their iPhones.

"The iPhone is an exciting technology that will help us reach potential voters across the country," states eCampaign director Justine Lam. "The Ron Paul campaign continues to utilize new technologies to spread Dr. Paul’s message of freedom, peace and prosperity."

Terra Eclipse of Santa Cruz, California designed this special platform for the Ron Paul campaign. "Our web development team has built a robust tool that will allow iPhone-equipped volunteers to bring Ron Paul’s online popularity into offline households in key early primary states," says Wyatt Hull, creative director of Terra Eclipse.

The Ron Paul 2008 iPhone platform is available at www.ronpaul2008.com/iphone . ...

Do you enjoy lying?

http://www.apple.com/support/iphone/service/battery/

People complained and complained about the iPod when it first came out 5 years ago....too expensive, only works on Macs, why would anyone need so many songs?

Yes, the iPhone won't change the world but it will give more options to persons who can't stand their phones. Every time I type out a text message I feel like breaking my RAZR in half, the day I'm off my verizon contract I'm jumping to the iPhone. The iPhone is not aimed at people who already have treos, it is for regular consumers and I have no doubt that Apple will meet its goal of selling 10 million iPhones over the next year.

and those complaining about price,

Phone ($200) + iPod ($250) + portable internet (http://reviews.cnet.com/pdas/nokia-770-portable-internet/4505-3127_7-32432764.html) ($150) = $600 <- plus you don't have to hulk around three devices.

huh....

My phone ($70), 4GB microsd for music and video ($40) = $110
If I wanted portable internet ($10 a month) = 50 months before my phone costs as much as iPhone
Let's face it, portable internet isn't even a point to bring up cause every portable device has it now. My nintendo ds can give me portable internet access for crying out loud.

Fact of the matter is... Apple payed many many moneys in order to advertise iPod and iPhone out the ass everywhere anyone looks. This makes consumers think it's the best choice out there, cause it's the only one everybody talks about/sees.

If I plastered my face all over every advertising space you see in the world and said I was the best lay you could ever get.... I'm sure I'd be just as famous and sought after as the iPhone. I could probably even get people to pay as much too.

and those complaining about price,

Phone ($200) + iPod ($250) + portable internet (http://reviews.cnet.com/pdas/nokia-770-portable-internet/4505-3127_7-32432764.html) ($150) = $600 <- plus you don't have to hulk around three devices.
My phone cost $300...with MP3/video capability...and wi-fi...and EVDO...and a keyboard...and a touchscreen...and a removable battery...and swapable memory (and miniSD cards are cheap).

So, what does the iPhone do that my year-old phone can't do?

Woman gets caught in the iPOD hype.. Pays a guy $800 for his spot in line so she could be first.. and......

http://www.filecabi.net/video/062907-firstiphone1.html

Woman gets caught in the iPOD hype.. Pays a guy $800 for his spot in line so she could be first.. and......

http://www.filecabi.net/video/062907-firstiphone1.html

http://forums.somd.com/showpost.php?p=2187216&postcount=12

http://forums.somd.com/showpost.php?p=2187216&postcount=12
Sorry, my iPhone only showed the last five posts...

Sorry, my iPhone only showed the last five posts...
All good, Apple was up almost $6 today, and about $45 since I bought it earlier this year. :yay:

I posted the info reported about the iphone from a TV news program. They specifically said the phone was "sealed" which meant you were stuck with the battery and then they talked about the fact that you couldn't replace the SIMM card. I didn't make it up. :rolleyes:

http://news.com.com/8301-10784_3-9739479-7.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-5

My phone cost $300...with MP3/video capability...and wi-fi...and EVDO...and a keyboard...and a touchscreen...and a removable battery...and swapable memory (and miniSD cards are cheap).

So, what does the iPhone do that my year-old phone can't do?
:yeahthat:

My phone cost $120, and $15 for my MicroSD 1GB storage card.

I can play headlines and live video from ESPN, MSNBC, CNN, FOX Sports.

I can watch YouTube videos, etc etc.

I can go on the internet and view websites.

I can play music.

I can talk on the phone.

And it's not AT&T. :razz:

Oh , and any Windows Media smartphone has twice the features of the iPhone. It's a ripoff is you ask me.