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do ya love those energy saving compact light bulbs ?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288684,00.html
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Highly efficient fluorescent light bulbs are widely touted as environmentally friendly, but they have created a recycling headache for the Environmental Protection Agency and local governments.

More often than not, their toxic ingredients simply end up in landfills, where the chemicals can leach into soil and water and poison fish and other wildlife.

The bulbs contain mercury and should not be tossed in the trash as are regular light bulbs.

"They're very efficient, but once they're used up, they become a ticking toxic time bomb," said Leonard Robinson, chief deputy director of the California Department of Toxic Substances Control. "They need to be captured and recycled."


the rest is on fox new web site

these things have been for how long now, and this is just coming out ?

where is gasbag Gore Mr Environment ........ oh wait this isn't global warming just mercury poisoning ........... :whistle:

Leave it Radio Patrol to only tell half the story....

Here's the other half..

The bulbs remain a good choice for the environmentally conscious, however, because the amount of mercury they contain is less than what is generated in the production of the extra electricity required to light an incandescent bulb.

and more... (http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/06/what_about_merc.php)

Many people, when they learn that compact fluorescent bulbs contain mercury vapor, get skeptical about the much talked-about benefits of these and assume that traditional incandescent light bulbs are less damaging to the environment despite requiring more power and having shorter lives. After all, mercury is really bad stuff, right? "A toxic metal known to cause brain, spinal cord, kidney and liver damage in humans—does not break down easily and, once airborne, often finds its way into groundwater, rivers and the sea, where it can cause a host of contamination issues for wildlife and people alike." But as often is the case, the truth can be a bit counter-intuitive.

<img src="http://i.treehugger.com/files/th_images/cfl-mercury-st-01.jpg"/>

Ironically, compact fluorescent bulbs are responsible for less mercury contamination than the incandescent bulbs they replaced, even though incandescents don't contain any mercury. The highest source of mercury in America’s air and water results from the burning of fossil fuels, such as coal, at utilities that supply electricity. Since a compact fluorescent bulb uses 75 percent less energy than an incandescent bulb, and lasts at least six times longer, it is responsible for far less mercury pollution in the long run. A coal-burning power plant will emit four times more mercury to produce the electricity for an incandescent bulb than for a compact fluorescent.

Not to mention that it will save you money with a lower electricity bill.

Leave it Radio Patrol to only tell half the story....




Ah ForesTOOL ......... I provided a link to the entire story ...... :smack:

Leave it Radio Patrol to only tell half the story....

Here's the other half..

The bulbs remain a good choice for the environmentally conscious, however, because the amount of mercury they contain is less than what is generated in the production of the extra electricity required to light an incandescent bulb.

and more... (http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/06/what_about_merc.php)

Many people, when they learn that compact fluorescent bulbs contain mercury vapor, get skeptical about the much talked-about benefits of these and assume that traditional incandescent light bulbs are less damaging to the environment despite requiring more power and having shorter lives. After all, mercury is really bad stuff, right? "A toxic metal known to cause brain, spinal cord, kidney and liver damage in humans—does not break down easily and, once airborne, often finds its way into groundwater, rivers and the sea, where it can cause a host of contamination issues for wildlife and people alike." But as often is the case, the truth can be a bit counter-intuitive.

<img src="http://i.treehugger.com/files/th_images/cfl-mercury-st-01.jpg"/>

Ironically, compact fluorescent bulbs are responsible for less mercury contamination than the incandescent bulbs they replaced, even though incandescents don't contain any mercury. The highest source of mercury in America’s air and water results from the burning of fossil fuels, such as coal, at utilities that supply electricity. Since a compact fluorescent bulb uses 75 percent less energy than an incandescent bulb, and lasts at least six times longer, it is responsible for far less mercury pollution in the long run. A coal-burning power plant will emit four times more mercury to produce the electricity for an incandescent bulb than for a compact fluorescent.

Not to mention that it will save you money with a lower electricity bill.
I agree, we should get rid of ALL coal fired energy plants and convert to Nuclear power..

I agree, we should get rid of ALL coal fired energy plants and convert to Nuclear power..


Yeah that .......... besides China finished like one new Coal Fired Plant every min ? or was it week ?

Like the French!

Actually, if done properly, nukular power is a safe, clean energy. We just have to designate some Western state with lots of empty space to be the permanent destination for all the nukular waste.

Renewable power makes more sense. While oil is still relatively cheap we ought to be putting much more investment to development of alternative energy technology.

I agree, we should get rid of ALL coal fired energy plants and convert to Nuclear power..

Ah ForesTOOL ......... I provided a link to the entire story ...... :smack:

Radiopatrol, you did provide the whole story. The problem with this is that FOX News gave half the story. Fluorescent bulbs are excellent and this "story" or "statement of fact" does not discredit that. Furthermore, their "toxic time bomb" effect is entirely removed if you recycle them, which we should all be doing anyway.

Leave it Radio Patrol to only tell half the story....

Here's the other half..

The bulbs remain a good choice for the environmentally conscious, however, because the amount of mercury they contain is less than what is generated in the production of the extra electricity required to light an incandescent bulb.

and more... (http://www.treehugger.com/files/2005/06/what_about_merc.php)

Many people, when they learn that compact fluorescent bulbs contain mercury vapor, get skeptical about the much talked-about benefits of these and assume that traditional incandescent light bulbs are less damaging to the environment despite requiring more power and having shorter lives. After all, mercury is really bad stuff, right? "A toxic metal known to cause brain, spinal cord, kidney and liver damage in humans—does not break down easily and, once airborne, often finds its way into groundwater, rivers and the sea, where it can cause a host of contamination issues for wildlife and people alike." But as often is the case, the truth can be a bit counter-intuitive.

<img src="http://i.treehugger.com/files/th_images/cfl-mercury-st-01.jpg"/>

Ironically, compact fluorescent bulbs are responsible for less mercury contamination than the incandescent bulbs they replaced, even though incandescents don't contain any mercury. The highest source of mercury in America’s air and water results from the burning of fossil fuels, such as coal, at utilities that supply electricity. Since a compact fluorescent bulb uses 75 percent less energy than an incandescent bulb, and lasts at least six times longer, it is responsible for far less mercury pollution in the long run. A coal-burning power plant will emit four times more mercury to produce the electricity for an incandescent bulb than for a compact fluorescent.

Not to mention that it will save you money with a lower electricity bill.
Well, I guess that means toss them in the trash. No worries.

Radiopatrol, you did provide the whole story. The problem with this is that FOX News gave half the story. Fluorescent bulbs are excellent and this "story" or "statement of fact" does not discredit that. Furthermore, their "toxic time bomb" effect is entirely removed if you recycle them, which we should all be doing anyway.


I believe the point was, there is currently minimal or no recycling programs for CFB ... and the general public is unaware of the dangers ........

####ing things ought to come with a warning label I have broken 2 of the damn things in the garage ........... All the while touting how echo friendly they were saving electricity - which is a good thing ......... - the damn thing s are an environmental hazard if / when broken ....... and you know they are getting crushed in the landfills ........... :smack: because people just toss them in the trash



:whistle:

Like the French!

Actually, if done properly, nukular power is a safe, clean energy. We just have to designate some Western state with lots of empty space to be the permanent destination for all the nukular waste.

Renewable power makes more sense. While oil is still relatively cheap we ought to be putting much more investment to development of alternative energy technology.
And in the interim?

Nuclear power is the way to go for quite some time (our foreseeable futures, anyway).

And in the interim?

Nuclear power is the way to go for quite some time (our foreseeable futures, anyway).
Fluorescent Light Bulbs... 07-10-2007 11:37 AM It is so satisfying giving you red

:razz: :killingme :killingme

Glad to serve your ignorant ways!

:coffee:
...these things have been for how long now, and this is just coming out ?


No...this isn't just coming out. It's printed on the packaging of the light bulbs.

I believe the point was, there is currently minimal or no recycling programs for CFB ... and the general public is unaware of the dangers ........

####ing things ought to come with a warning label I have broken 2 of the damn things in the garage ........... All the while touting how echo friendly they were saving electricity - which is a good thing ......... - the damn thing s are an environmental hazard if / when broken ....... and you know they are getting crushed in the landfills ........... :smack: because people just toss them in the trash



:whistle:

I agree we all need to be more aware, and there should be handy recycling programs. I don't think you need to worry too much about the broken bulbs in your garage, though - if I'm not mistaken (no guarantees there) the mercury is in the ballast in the base of the bulb. So unless you backed over them with your car, you probably didn't release any mercury in your home.

For now, you can take your burnt out CF bulbs (I doubt many people have any at this point) to the same place you take your other household hazardous materials. Usually it's the county dump, or sometimes the county will have dropoff centers set up around town every now and then.

Eventually, there are going to be dropoffs at major retailers...just like you can dump your cellphones, batteries and inkjet cartridges off at Best Buys, Office Depots, etc...

As for the occasional broken bulb...it's no big deal. Not enough mercury per bulb to be a hazard. That said, I wouldn't smash a case of 'em up to sprinkle on your Cheerios.

Like the French!

Actually, if done properly, nukular power is a safe, clean energy. We just have to designate some Western state with lots of empty space to be the permanent destination for all the nukular waste.

Renewable power makes more sense. While oil is still relatively cheap we ought to be putting much more investment to development of alternative energy technology.

Please tell me you aren't suggesting solar power because you've done some research. There's a world shortage of photo-voltaic cells already.

:coffee:

do ya love those energy saving compact light bulbs ?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,288684,00.html
UFB



the rest is on fox new web site

these things have been for how long now, and this is just coming out ?


This is not new info.

Well, in five years, when the bulbs finally burn out, I'll just take them to the household hazardous waste days that St. Mary's County has. In the meantime, I'll just be stuck with benefiting from lower SMECO costs.

I'm waiting for LED based light bulbs. Even more efficient, no mercury.

For now, you can take your burnt out CF bulbs (I doubt many people have any at this point) to the same place you take your other household hazardous materials. Usually it's the county dump, or sometimes the county will have dropoff centers set up around town every now and then.

Eventually, there are going to be dropoffs at major retailers...just like you can dump your cellphones, batteries and inkjet cartridges off at Best Buys, Office Depots, etc...

As for the occasional broken bulb...it's no big deal. Not enough mercury per bulb to be a hazard. That said, I wouldn't smash a case of 'em up to sprinkle on your Cheerios.

I'm waiting for LED based light bulbs. Even more efficient, no mercury.
The wait shouldn't be long... just a couple weeks ago we were eyeing the new 61" LED LCD television that just hit the market.