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drinkmorexs
08-10-2007, 12:52 PM
Okay,
I have to speak my mind before I doing something regretful. I have this friend that is going through hard times at his job. He is a hard worker. He goes by the book and works in an environment that that could be deadly if the policies and procedures are not followed. He has traveled for many years and have people asking him back for trips. Now he has been working for this company for almost 10 years now and has 14 years in the field. Why is it that when my friend gets run down or injuryed does his boss bully him? My friend is tired and needs breaks at times, but when seen training the new guys or doing paperwork he is repremended? The last time he injured himself he was sent home because light duty prescribed by the doctor was not an option. This time his on light duty and decided to just mention to his lead and not the boss. (forgot to mention, another guy in the same group got fired for having light duty). But now his boss was questioning his work. What do you do with BULLY BOSSES? How can someone that bust their behind for so many years and gets no where? AND believe me, he has applied for other jobs, but since there is a million other people in the area applying for the same thing, its hard!!!!!!!
I feel for my friend and wish that this place was a better working environment for us....
migtig
08-10-2007, 01:06 PM
:huggy: For you and your friend. If I am reading this correctly here is a possible answer:
If your friend was injured on the job, it is a procedure for that employee to be checked out by a health care professional per workman's comp, and the employer is told in WHAT capacity that individual can return to work. Sometimes, unfortunately, the employee is only allowed to return to work on limited/light duty, which isn't part of their normal job description, or doesn't fill up the entire workday. In that case the employee is sent home - so he won't re-injure himself, until such time that the doctors place him back on regular full time duty. This is both for his protection, his health and so that the employer isn't hit with a stiff fine due to workers comp liability. Sometimes though, hard-workers see this as "punishment". It's not.
Now, as long as these procedures are being followed, he won't lose his job. Yet, as per your comments - he is NOT following the procedure, so it appears that his work is slacking. However, if he truly feels he is being threatened due to his injury, he should file a complaint with his boss' supervisor, his human resource department, etc.
drinkmorexs
08-10-2007, 01:14 PM
My friend injured himself outside of work, so workmans comp is not an issue here. There is plenty of "paperwork" and other jobs that can be done not is not impacting the mission. He is still able to "limp" around and direct those less knowledge than him on doing the tasks needed at hand. But because he isn't running from end to the other or climbing the walls (which he normally does do) he got hit......
smoothmarine187
08-10-2007, 01:17 PM
Tell your friend to freeze a can of shaving cream, cut the bottom out, place it in the bosses desk and wait for the fun to begin :getdown:
migtig
08-10-2007, 01:21 PM
My friend injured himself outside of work, so workmans comp is not an issue here. There is plenty of "paperwork" and other jobs that can be done not is not impacting the mission. He is still able to "limp" around and direct those less knowledge than him on doing the tasks needed at hand. But because he isn't running from end to the other or climbing the walls (which he normally does do) he got hit......
Regardless as to whether his injury is WC or not:
I'm not sure what your friend does, but it doesn't sound like he actually has a sit down desk job. In that case, light duty would translate to the employee being sent home. End of story. Look at it from this point of view - why would any employer pay an employee to NOT do their job all day? Also, if he still tried to do his regular job and was hurt worse as a result of it...:jameo:
He needs to follow procedures. He needs to turn in the paperwork in regards to his injury and he needs to follow the rules. By following the rules, he PROTECTS his job security. If they were to fire him, he has grounds for a lawsuit. Without him following the rules, it looks like he is showing up on the job site, doing a lot of crying and whining and moaning, and NOT doing his job. If his employers don't have paperwork limiting him to light duty, and he is failing to do his job due to his injury, then all they know is he is NOT working which is grounds for dismissal.
baileydog
08-10-2007, 01:24 PM
Dont you listen to the news these days. They tell of all kinds of ways people are dealing with dickhead bosses. Listen and learn. Tell him next time someone takes out a boss somewherein the U.S., print it out and put it on the bosses desk and write "back off" on it. Maybe he will get the hint.
Fingel_Hymer
08-10-2007, 01:46 PM
This is always tough.
If you have a contract or other agreement that has been negotiated either directly or on your behalf, read it and follow it to the letter.
IMO, the only thing that trumps a bully boss is an employee who is educated on what the terms and requirements of the position and working those to the letter...
shopgirl
08-10-2007, 01:55 PM
Dont you listen to the news these days. They tell of all kinds of ways people are dealing with dickhead bosses. Listen and learn. Tell him next time someone takes out a boss somewherein the U.S., print it out and put it on the bosses desk and write "back off" on it. Maybe he will get the hint.
I worked at a place for over 13 years. The boss was hell on wheels. The harder you worked the worse she got. NOTHING YOU DID MADE HER HAPPY. I finally left after given 2 weeks notice.
I have a job where I don't see my boss. Most people would love this but the problem WAS she would never tell you important things I need to know. So with that being said, today will be my last day dealing with her crap. Does she know? Will I give her a notice $#%%#@ No
I will in the next 24 hours tell her AM NOT COMING BACK an she will have to deal with doing my job next week till she fines someone else. I do have another job which I have been working over 3 months an love it.
Any typo's ............sorry lol
drinkmorexs
08-10-2007, 02:12 PM
I guess my deal is, if the job is getting done and it is being done correctly and on time, the what is the BIG freakin' deal? Some of us do need breaks every once in awhile, those of us that bust our butts ALL the time!!! So stating that he isn't doing his job is not true. AND no his job is not a desk job. He is working in a environment that involves physical and mental. He deals with the weather and has a workplace that is basically a hole in the wall while others in the same company and location are in better conditions (basically they have air condition/heat and my friends group does not) which really sucks when its a 100 + degrees outside!
migtig
08-10-2007, 02:27 PM
I guess my deal is, if the job is getting done and it is being done correctly and on time, the what is the BIG freakin' deal? Some of us do need breaks every once in awhile, those of us that bust our butts ALL the time!!! So stating that he isn't doing his job is not true. AND no his job is not a desk job. He is working in a environment that involves physical and mental. He deals with the weather and has a workplace that is basically a hole in the wall while others in the same company and location are in better conditions (basically they have air condition/heat and my friends group does not) which really sucks when its a 100 + degrees outside!
I know you feel bad for your friend but facts are facts.
People get hired to do specific jobs.
If they don't do those jobs, then they are not doing their work.
If you don't do your work, you can lose your job. You are not supposed to be doing other things because that's what you decided to do for the day because you don't feel good.
If you are hurt and on limited work duty, then you need to inform your employer so they are aware as to why you aren't doing your work - otherwise, you just look like you are not completing your work assignments.
If your friend wants a desk job, then he needs toa ctively seek one out. Otherwise, he needs to bone up and admit he's hurt to his employers or risk losing his job since he is choosing not to do it.
I feel for you and understand what you are saying, but take a step back and look at how things would appear to an employer.
drinkmorexs
08-10-2007, 02:29 PM
Okay, I agree in that point, but what if you going in with a light duty slip and get fired??????????
migtig
08-10-2007, 02:41 PM
Okay, I agree in that point, but what if you going in with a light duty slip and get fired??????????
They can't fire you for that. If you are a full time employee, you are guaranteed by law your job by the FLMA , FLSA and few other things out there. I can pull you some stuff if you need it. If they fire you for being injured or having a doctor place you on light duty, then you pretty much can own that company - lawsuit waiting to happen.
Here's a link
http://www.dol.gov/esa/whd/fmla/
drinkmorexs
08-10-2007, 02:52 PM
Thanks, I am going to pass this along to him, just in case.....
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