ok listen peeps, contrary to popular belief, the personal forum known as The Manure Bin is not the latest hideout. I think I said this before, it is not a forum to replace the horse forums. Unlike some of the other personal forums, just because you request to join does not mean you will get in, you will be denied if the other members do not "personally" know you. Requesting under MPD's and names that our members do not know will get you denied. For those of you that are true horse peeps and get denied, sorry but we can't distinguish you from the multitude of fabricated horse peeps requesting. If you are a "real" horse peep and would like to know more about the manure bin, please feel free to PM me.

K I'm off my mounting block...

:tantrum I keep getting denied.


:lmao:

:tantrum I keep getting denied.


:lmao:


I voted yes for you.. :huggy:

I voted yes for you.. :huggy:

Awww. But you were the only one.


:lol:

I voted yes for you.. :huggy:

yeah ok... :jameo:

yeah ok... :jameo:

:lmao:

:tap: i don't understand....i applied now what? Am i missing somfin? as usual?

I perrsonally think the manure bin should replace the horse forums. You guys deserve a safe place of your own. :huggy:

:tantrum I keep getting denied.


:lmao:

because you are someone no one knows in our group and you just can't stand that you would be denied membership, since you are a member of most all other personal groups, but as far as I know not a horse person... :whistle:

because you are someone no one knows in our group and you just can't stand that you would be denied membership, since you are a member of most all other personal groups, but as far as I know not a horse person... :whistle:

I'm sure someone in there knows me...dang it..:lol:
No I can stand it, I just think it's funny.
A horse person, maybe?

:killingme

because you are someone no one knows in our group and you just can't stand that you would be denied membership, since you are a member of most all other personal groups, but as far as I know not a horse person... :whistle:
You just can't stand it Miss Perky? :lmao:

because you are someone no one knows in our group and you just can't stand that you would be denied membership, since you are a member of most all other personal groups, but as far as I know not a horse person... :whistle:

She did tell me about riding a stud one time..does that count? :whistle:

how do you know if you are denied? i'm missin' somfin....i suppose. :frown:

You just can't stand it Miss Perky? :lmao:

No I can't...I might jump.

hey paso i got a chikin layin' eggs in a flower pot on my side porch. you should come collect some eggs since the little one isn't doing it and the dogs are exciled from running free now due to the carnage and all.

are you ignoring me? i didn't hang up on you.....yet.

:tap: i don't understand....i applied now what? Am i missing somfin? as usual?
takes a few days for everyone to vote. :huggy: you got a yes from me.

takes a few days for everyone to vote. :huggy: you got a yes from me.
is that because i shared my turkey breast with ya the other day?
:huggy:

is that because i shared my turkey breast with ya the other day?
:huggy:

Food is the way to my heart..and when you moved here you brought me food..I will always love you.. :huggy:

Food is the way to my heart..and when you moved here you brought me food..I will always love you.. :huggy:

Crap. I only bring stuff for the horses, llamas, and Wee. :ohwell:

Crap. I only bring stuff for the horses, llamas, and Wee. :ohwell:

I am sure Wee would vote for you... :huggy:

Food is the way to my heart..and when you moved here you brought me food..I will always love you.. :huggy:
i remember the angel food cake (for my birthday), and pot roast, and beef stew...ahh...the good 'ole days...oh wait..that was YOU feeding ME :lol:

i just found the chikin eggs in the flower pot tonight....not sure how many days she's been laying them there. silly birds.

Did Percy get in touch with you today?? She needs muffy groomed.

Wow. You horsey people are strict.

I am sure Wee would vote for you... :huggy:

As long as I have a bag full of apples for him, I'm sure he would. :lol: :huggy:

Wow. You horsey people are strict.
not mean.....and do we LOOK like we cook? :lol:

not mean.....and do we LOOK like we cook? :lol:
:confused:

Did Percy get in touch with you today?? .

She came by and I trimmed her schnauzer..

She came by and I trimmed her schnauzer..
Kwillia is gonna be soooo jealous. :shocking:

Kwillia is gonna be soooo jealous. :shocking:

Please don't tell her.. :huggy:

She came by and I trimmed her schnauzer.. :smack:

:smack:

It sounded better then Yorkie... :huggy:


ps Plus I knew Kwillia would be mad if I shaved anyones schnauzer but hers..

Kwillia is gonna be soooo jealous. :shocking:

That reminds me. I was going over the Bay Bridge Saturday and saw a big SUV with the license plate 'Schnauzr' and bunches of doggie decals over it. I immediately thought of her. :lmao:

She came by and I trimmed her schnauzer..

Did you dye it pink? :popcorn:

That reminds me. I was going over the Bay Bridge Saturday and saw a big SUV with the license plate 'baldschnzr' and bunches of doggie decals over it. I immediately thought of her. :lmao:

:yikes:

Did you dye it pink? :popcorn:

I did put a bow on it like Kwillia likes and spritzed it with cologne..

:yikes:

:faint: OMFG. :roflmao:

I did put a bow on it like Kwillia likes and spritzed it with cologne..

No wonder she's been in such a good mood. Hubby must have been some kind of happy. :coffee:

No wonder she's been in such a good mood. Hubby must have been some kind of happy. :coffee:

No comment but she told me :gossip:

No comment but she told me :gossip:

:hot: :faint: :banana: :popcorn:

No comment but she told me :gossip:

yeah see this is one of the problems.. people being WAY off topic.. in the thread... but don't worry it seems to be happening in the manure bin as well.. :jameo:

yeah see this is one of the problems.. people being WAY off topic.. in the thread... but don't worry it seems to be happening in the manure bin as well.. :jameo:

Crap. I thought that would give me an 'in' for sure. :banghead:

yeah see this is one of the problems.. people being WAY off topic.. in the thread... but don't worry it seems to be happening in the manure bin as well.. :jameo:

And this is a problem because :shrug:

hmmm lets see,
trained/studdied as a farrier specializing in corrective shoes....worked on a quarter horse ranch (bout 40 head) and also tried a bit of heeling for team roping (since im a lefty thought it may be an advantage)
I had up to that point been riding western for around 5-6 yrs, but havent been on one since.

thought i'd give the sh1t bin a try.....got deny'd....thought oh well :shrug:

ok listen peeps, contrary to popular belief, the personal forum known as The Manure Bin is not the latest hideout. I think I said this before, it is not a forum to replace the horse forums. Unlike some of the other personal forums, just because you request to join does not mean you will get in, you will be denied if the other members do not "personally" know you. Requesting under MPD's and names that our members do not know will get you denied. For those of you that are true horse peeps and get denied, sorry but we can't distinguish you from the multitude of fabricated horse peeps requesting. If you are a "real" horse peep and would like to know more about the manure bin, please feel free to PM me.

K I'm off my mounting block...


:howdy: I'm a real horse peep.

what was this thread about in the first place?? lol

what was this thread about in the first place?? lol
how to make mac n chez with tree bark and motor oil

how to make mac n chez with tree bark and motor oil
:lmao:

ok listen peeps, contrary to popular belief, the personal forum known as The Manure Bin is not the latest hideout. I think I said this before, it is not a forum to replace the horse forums. Unlike some of the other personal forums, just because you request to join does not mean you will get in, you will be denied if the other members do not "personally" know you. Requesting under MPD's and names that our members do not know will get you denied. For those of you that are true horse peeps and get denied, sorry but we can't distinguish you from the multitude of fabricated horse peeps requesting. If you are a "real" horse peep and would like to know more about the manure bin, please feel free to PM me.

K I'm off my mounting block...

The Manure Bin has been closed... we will not be accepting any other members. All the requestors that put you are horse people in the reason, sorry but what part of someone needs to know you PERSONALLY did you not understand? You may be great horse peeps, but you are not known.You will not be let in. Others we are full and need to organize ourselves to who is who in our group before we let any one else in. Sorry

:stuckup: :drama:

:stuckup: :drama:

You ain't lying.
Let's knock again.

:lmao:

The Manure Bin has been closed... we will not be accepting any other members. All the requestors that put you are horse people in the reason, sorry but what part of someone needs to know you PERSONALLY did you not understand? You may be great horse peeps, but you are not known.You will not be let in. Others we are full and need to organize ourselves to who is who in our group before we let any one else in. Sorry

This is :bs: :bawl: I'm always offering for you horse ladies to come out and party with us

:bigwhoop:

The Manure Bin has been closed... we will not be accepting any other members. All the requestors that put you are horse people in the reason, sorry but what part of someone needs to know you PERSONALLY did you not understand? You may be great horse peeps, but you are not known.You will not be let in. Others we are full and need to organize ourselves to who is who in our group before we let any one else in. Sorry

:razz: :bawl: :shocked: :biteme: :yawn: :doh: :eyebrow: A sampling of all the emotions we felt at this news. :smack:

It sounded better then Yorkie... :huggy:


ps Plus I knew Kwillia would be mad if I shaved anyones schnauzer but hers..
:gossip: i just found out it's a SHRUNK DOWN MASTIFF!!!! But don't tell. 'K?

AM i in?? AM I IN??

Oh rats this is just a thread isn't it?

I don't know how you know if you're in.... :frown:

:gossip: i just found out it's a SHRUNK DOWN MASTIFF!!!! But don't tell. 'K?
:lmao:

AM i in?? AM I IN??

Oh rats this is just a thread isn't it?

I don't know how you know if you're in.... :frown:
Geez Happyappy... Click the new posts button. If you see threads from that forum your in. If not - ya didn't make the final cut. :huggy:

AM i in?? AM I IN??

Oh rats this is just a thread isn't it?

I don't know how you know if you're in.... :frown:

:frown: :huggy: I thought you would fit in...others did not...but Paso loves ya anyway...they plan to open the doors again sometime they just wanted it small...got too much response too fast..you are still on my trail list so you get all the rides..

:frown: :huggy: I thought you would fit in...others did not...but Paso loves ya anyway...they plan to open the doors again sometime they just wanted it small...got too much response too fast..you are still on my trail list so you get all the rides..

Now that is ridiculous, Happy's not in but Shady is? :jameo: As much as we pick on Happy (and she's a fun one to pick on because she's always up to the challenge -- unlike Shady), we believe she knows more about horses than Shady every will. :howdy: She's also loyal to her peeps and doesn't use them just for her own personal goals. :yay: Shame on you Manure Bin! :smack:

Think its because sadie applied before happy and it was decided to end any newbies for a while til everyone was settled and happys app. came in after the decision...so did alot of others.Its nothing against happy..we loves ya.

Now that is ridiculous, Happy's not in but Shady is? :jameo: As much as we pick on Happy (and she's a fun one to pick on because she's always up to the challenge -- unlike Shady), we believe she knows more about horses than Shady every will. :howdy: She's also loyal to her peeps and doesn't use them just for her own personal goals. :yay: Shame on you Manure Bin! :smack:
:faint:

Who stole WD's UN/PW?? Fess up?

Frankly I don't want to be approved into a group of people where there are ...um...unknown crocs in quiet waters any ways, now that Paso tells me peeps voted against me. No worries, I'm better off on the outside lookin' in. :smile: Not to worry I won't apply again. One rejection is plenty for ole HappyAp. I get the picture.

Think its because sadie applied before happy and it was decided to end any newbies for a while til everyone was settled and happys app. came in after the decision...so did alot of others.Its nothing against happy..we loves ya.


:yeahthat: Loper got alot of peeps to keep track of. Hang in there. And by the way "IT FRICKIN CRAZY IN THE MANURE BIN"!! :whistle: :lmao:
.... all those wild pics and the language :yikes:

happy really is wasnt a vote against you it was just a decision to stop lettin anyone..ANYONE in til things settled poor loper has been gettin slammed with people wanting in...and it takes a while to find out who we know and dont know. We know you! Hell i took your pic! I believe there are 25? people in the manure bin now...and poor loper is gettin twice that in requests to join. So we all decided to shut down for a while to let things settle in and for every one in manure bin to get aquanted for those that didnt know each other. Im sure when loper gets some wind back in her since she does do more then just the manure bin with her life voting will resume. Kisses!

happy really is wasnt a vote against you it was just a decision to stop lettin anyone..ANYONE in til things settled poor loper has been gettin slammed with people wanting in...and it takes a while to find out who we know and dont know. We know you! Hell i took your pic! I believe there are 25? people in the manure bin now...and poor loper is gettin twice that in requests to join. So we all decided to shut down for a while to let things settle in and for every one in manure bin to get aquanted for those that didnt know each other. Im sure when loper gets some wind back in her since she does do more then just the manure bin with her life voting will resume. Kisses!
please see post number 57. TYVM.

Thanks for being so sweet though :huggy:

Off to pick up the REAL manure.

:faint:

Who stole WD's UN/PW?? Fess up?

Frankly I don't want to be approved into a group of people where there are ...um...unknown crocs in quiet waters any ways, now that Paso tells me peeps voted against me. No worries, I'm better off on the outside lookin' in. :smile: Not to worry I won't apply again. One rejection is plenty for ole HappyAp. I get the picture.

We're hurt, we really do believe you're the better person and are surprised that you, of all people, were rejected. :flowers: The inmates have taken over the asylum in the private forum -- :jameo: We're glad you're not in there with them, honestly, because you do have some very valuable information to share, i.e. the chocolate gene clarification, etc. Keep up the good work. :howdy:

because you are someone no one knows in our group and you just can't stand that you would be denied membership, since you are a member of most all other personal groups, but as far as I know not a horse person... :whistle:

What really amazes us and forgive us if we can't get over this Happy being denied thing! :whistle: Is that someone with karma as low as Loper can deny someone with karma as high as Happy because people either don't know her (Happy) or don't like her. :confused: Obviously the people at large approve of what Happy says much more than they approve of what Loper says so. . . :coffee: Also, even we know Happy much better than we know Loper. . . :popcorn: And, not to belabor the point, Happy has been on the forum at least 1.5 years longer than Loper. . . Happy go kick her arse! :lmao: You deserve to be the queen bee (dung beetle) of the Manure Pit, not Loper! :howdy:

What really amazes us and forgive us if we can't get over this Happy being denied thing! :whistle: Is that someone with karma as low as Loper can deny someone with karma as high as Happy because people either don't know her (Happy) or don't like her. :confused: Obviously the people at large approve of what Happy says much more than they approve of what Loper says so. . . :coffee: Also, even we know Happy much better than we know Loper. . . :popcorn: And, not to belabor the point, Happy has been on the forum at least 1.5 years longer than Loper. . . Happy go kick her arse! :lmao: You deserve to be the queen bee (dung beetle) of the Manure Pit, not Loper! :howdy:



:shutup:

What really amazes us and forgive us if we can't get over this Happy being denied thing! :whistle:



Hey Winn....I'm over it! :lmao:

What really amazes us and forgive us if we can't get over this Happy being denied thing! :whistle: Is that someone with karma as low as Loper can deny someone with karma as high as Happy because people either don't know her (Happy) or don't like her. :confused: Obviously the people at large approve of what Happy says much more than they approve of what Loper says so. . . :coffee: Also, even we know Happy much better than we know Loper. . . :popcorn: And, not to belabor the point, Happy has been on the forum at least 1.5 years longer than Loper. . . Happy go kick her arse! :lmao: You deserve to be the queen bee (dung beetle) of the Manure Pit, not Loper! :howdy:

Hi current WD poster. I'm not picking on you, but I'm suprised since your MPD's have had your own little group that you are being this way. I really enjoyed all the things I learned from the HYPP thread. Coming from a different horse background I'm not normally exposed to it. Happy's posting & others like it are why I enjoy reading the local forum. Sometimes you need to contribute more like Happy does instead of just :smack: and just doing the generalized postings. I'm looking forward to the day when I can meet you and all the MPD's. That is if we haven't already met. Have we met?? Should we make the MSA or SMHA Awards Banquet a date or would you like to meet sooner. I'm being totally honest Winn. You can PM me a response if you'd like.

Hi current WD poster. I'm not picking on you, but I'm suprised since your MPD's have had your own little group that you are being this way. I really enjoyed all the things I learned from the HYPP thread. Coming from a different horse background I'm not normally exposed to it. Happy's posting & others like it are why I enjoy reading the local forum. Sometimes you need to contribute more like Happy does instead of just :smack: and just doing the generalized postings. I'm looking forward to the day when I can meet you and all the MPD's. That is if we haven't already met. Have we met?? Should we make the MSA or SMHA Awards Banquet a date or would you like to meet sooner. I'm being totally honest Winn. You can PM me a response if you'd like.
Being born with a genetic mishap, which luckily has no outward signs in my particular case...i'm a true genetic fiend :lol: I'm glad i could share some of that knowledge and someone actually READ it :lol:

Alnd I do feel much better now, after my terrible, terrible, awful rejection which i don't deal well with.... :diva: TYVM

What really amazes us and forgive us if we can't get over this Happy being denied thing! :whistle: Is that someone with karma as low as Loper can deny someone with karma as high as Happy because people either don't know her (Happy) or don't like her. :confused: Obviously the people at large approve of what Happy says much more than they approve of what Loper says so. . . :coffee: Also, even we know Happy much better than we know Loper. . . :popcorn: And, not to belabor the point, Happy has been on the forum at least 1.5 years longer than Loper. . . Happy go kick her arse! :lmao: You deserve to be the queen bee (dung beetle) of the Manure Pit, not Loper! :howdy:
Dung beetle? :killingme they work SO hard....do d@mn hard, have ya SEEN the gigantic over sized turds they push around?? no way not me. too much like work :drama:

Being born with a genetic mishap, which luckily has no outward signs in my particular case...i'm a true genetic fiend :lol: I'm glad i could share some of that knowledge and someone actually READ it :lol:

Alnd I do feel much better now, after my terrible, terrible, awful rejection which i don't deal well with.... :diva: TYVM

:lmao: If you meet a horse person that thinks they know everything they aren't a real horse person. What I love about horses & competing with them is it is never the same. There is always a new challenge in training, horse care, competion around every bend. It's not a sport that you can ever get bored doing. Why to many options. :jameo:

What really amazes us and forgive us if we can't get over this Happy being denied thing! :whistle: Is that someone with karma as low as Loper can deny someone with karma as high as Happy because people either don't know her (Happy) or don't like her. :confused: Obviously the people at large approve of what Happy says much more than they approve of what Loper says so. . . :coffee: Also, even we know Happy much better than we know Loper. . . :popcorn: And, not to belabor the point, Happy has been on the forum at least 1.5 years longer than Loper. . . Happy go kick her arse! :lmao: You deserve to be the queen bee (dung beetle) of the Manure Pit, not Loper! :howdy:
I don't think my power points have gone up since i turned karma off. :rolleyes:
But thanks for the though anyways. :yay:

And by the way "IT FRICKIN CRAZY IN THE MANURE BIN"!! :whistle: :lmao:
.... all those wild pics and the language :yikes:

:smack: yeah, see that doesn't help with the requests... :lmao:

I got denied also, but it really doesn't bother me. I need to come up with a new name that is not so blase on who I am.

What really amazes us and forgive us if we can't get over this Happy being denied thing! :whistle: Is that someone with karma as low as Loper can deny someone with karma as high as Happy because people either don't know her (Happy) or don't like her. :confused: Obviously the people at large approve of what Happy says much more than they approve of what Loper says so. . . :coffee: Also, even we know Happy much better than we know Loper. . . :popcorn: And, not to belabor the point, Happy has been on the forum at least 1.5 years longer than Loper. . . Happy go kick her arse! :lmao: You deserve to be the queen bee (dung beetle) of the Manure Pit, not Loper! :howdy:

:lmao: would you like to stand on my mounting block while you finish your tirade on something you know absolutely NOTHING about?
Why don't you (and your conglomerate of users) shell out the cash and create your own forum. Then you can make whatever rules you want. :whistle: and you and all your little WD's can talk to yourselves.

and as for who you state you know better I could really care less... I don't believe much of anything that comes out of your posts anyway.. :shrug:

What really amazes us and forgive us if we can't get over this Happy being denied thing! :whistle: Is that someone with karma as low as Loper can deny someone with karma as high as Happy because people either don't know her (Happy) or don't like her. :confused: Obviously the people at large approve of what Happy says much more than they approve of what Loper says so. . . :coffee: Also, even we know Happy much better than we know Loper. . . :popcorn: And, not to belabor the point, Happy has been on the forum at least 1.5 years longer than Loper. . . Happy go kick her arse! :lmao: You deserve to be the queen bee (dung beetle) of the Manure Pit, not Loper! :howdy:
Loper started the manure bin...any one could of took it upon themselves to do the same..still can.

I don't think my power points have gone up since i turned karma off. :rolleyes:
But thanks for the though anyways. :yay:
Isn't it interesting that WD will be rude to you one moment and say that you look over fifty and shouldn't be wearing tank tops and the next moment be kissing your butt hoping to find a friend? Nothing bad was ever said about you. I have never met you, and several people haven't met you yet. There are no alligators or crocs in the poo poo bin, they are still out here. We are trying to keep it that way. I enjoy reading your posts and would like to meet you sometime. :flowers:

Hi current WD poster. I'm not picking on you, but I'm suprised since your MPD's have had your own little group that you are being this way. I really enjoyed all the things I learned from the HYPP thread. Coming from a different horse background I'm not normally exposed to it. Happy's posting & others like it are why I enjoy reading the local forum. Sometimes you need to contribute more like Happy does instead of just :smack: and just doing the generalized postings. I'm looking forward to the day when I can meet you and all the MPD's. That is if we haven't already met. Have we met?? Should we make the MSA or SMHA Awards Banquet a date or would you like to meet sooner. I'm being totally honest Winn. You can PM me a response if you'd like.

We have met and, trust us, you do like us because we are charming, witty and, by gosh, we're great company. :howdy: It just doesn't make sense for us to expose ourselves in the real world, does it? :whistle: What purpose would that serve? :shrug: We like it this way. Thanks for the offer to meet, but we already have and we will again. We just won't be wearing our Winn Dixie T-shirts! :lmao:

Isn't it interesting that WD will be rude to you one moment and say that you look over fifty and shouldn't be wearing tank tops and the next moment be kissing your butt hoping to find a friend? Nothing bad was ever said about you. I have never met you, and several people haven't met you yet. There are no alligators or crocs in the poo poo bin, they are still out here. We are trying to keep it that way. I enjoy reading your posts and would like to meet you sometime. :flowers:

Oh Shut Up Ugly Lady. :smack: Happy looks better than you will ever look and she knows it. :flowers: We like to kid around and enjoy Happy's responses to our various comments. :huggy: Unlike you, she actually can stand her ground and doesn't have to resort to high school behavior! :whistle: By the way, Happy, your avatar is very nice. . . forgive our tank top comment. . . :love:

Oh Shut Up Ugly Lady. :smack: Happy looks better than you will ever look and she knows it. :flowers: We like to kid around and enjoy Happy's responses to our various comments. :huggy: Unlike you, she actually can stand her ground and doesn't have to resort to high school behavior! :whistle: By the way, Happy, your avatar is very nice. . . forgive our tank top comment. . . :love:
I can make you a T-shirt that says " I am a crazy lying Biotch AkA WD" I can send it in the mail or drop it off at your barn. I know where you reside, and the horses do too. :lmao:

I can make you a T-shirt that says " I am a crazy lying Biotch AkA WD" I can send it in the mail or drop it off at your barn. I know where you reside, and the horses do too. :lmao:
Your still hopped up on the Benadryl arn't you???

I am soooo tired from today. Goodnight!!

Oh Shut Up Ugly Lady. :smack: Happy looks better than you will ever look and she knows it. :flowers: We like to kid around and enjoy Happy's responses to our various comments. :huggy: Unlike you, she actually can stand her ground and doesn't have to resort to high school behavior! :whistle: By the way, Happy, your avatar is very nice. . . forgive our tank top comment. . . :love:
It is a good thing you tell everyone that you never go on the forums, otherwise they would have figured it out by now. You are a true actress. I must say. Indeed you are charming and such a good BSer ...all the more reason for people to know what a snake in the grass you are. :yay:

Isn't it interesting that WD will be rude to you one moment and say that you look over fifty and shouldn't be wearing tank tops and the next moment be kissing your butt hoping to find a friend? Nothing bad was ever said about you. I have never met you, and several people haven't met you yet. There are no alligators or crocs in the poo poo bin, they are still out here. We are trying to keep it that way. I enjoy reading your posts and would like to meet you sometime. :flowers:

yeah I found the same thing interesting... as well as all the "we've met comments" WD can't seem to prove it though can "they" :whistle:

yeah I found the same thing interesting... as well as all the "we've met comments" WD can't seem to prove it though can "they" :whistle:

Don't have to prove anything to anyone! :howdy: It is what it is, enough said! :flowers:

Don't have to prove anything to anyone! :howdy: It is what it is, enough said! :flowers:
Yes....the rest of the world calls it LYING. :buttkick:

I can make you a T-shirt that says " I am a crazy lying Biotch AkA WD" I can send it in the mail or drop it off at your barn. I know where you reside, and the horses do too. :lmao:

As I said, unlike you, Happy doesn't have to resort to high school tactics! :smack: You know nothing. . . :buttkick:

Yes....the rest of the world calls it LYING. :buttkick:

You are so unbelievably ignorant! :smack:

As I said, unlike you, Happy doesn't have to resort to high school tactics! :smack: You know nothing. . . :buttkick:
"liar, liar, pants on fire".....How about pre-K. I just enjoy stooping to your level just for fun. I like to see things from a snakes point of veiw so I can avoid where I step. :yay:

You are so unbelievably ignorant! :smack:
Well at least you are changing your vocabulary some. My 7 year old can hold a better conversation than you do. :razz:

Yes....the rest of the world calls it LYING. :buttkick:
:yeahthat:

"liar, liar, pants on fire".....How about pre-K. I just enjoy stooping to your level just for fun. I like to see things from a snakes point of veiw so I can avoid where I step. :yay:
Ding Ding!!! Round three! Damn benadryl does get ya hyped Sadie! The fight is on! :boxing: Betting takes place in 5 min.!

Ding Ding!!! Round three! Damn benadryl does get ya hyped Sadie! The fight is on! :boxing: Betting takes place in 5 min.!
That's okay we already know that WD is a LOSER. :lmao:

As I said, unlike you, Happy doesn't have to resort to high school tactics! :smack: You know nothing. . . :buttkick:


HMMM and your tactics are better than what middle school...? you, the one hiding behind what you say is a plethora of peeps using the same name... but don't have the balls enough to post something legit... at least Sadie posts as herself. :yay:

said it before....and i'll say it again....you horse ppl are wierd :jameo:
are you STILL complaining about this?

said it before....and i'll say it again....you horse ppl are wierd :jameo:
are you STILL complaining about this?
It's just entertainment to me....There is not too much to do in this town. We had a great trail ride today, without WD of course. :huggy:

said it before....and i'll say it again....you horse ppl are wierd :jameo:
are you STILL complaining about this?
We had a long trail ride this evening... i think some one spiked our dinner. :lmao:

It's just entertainment to me....There is not too much to do in this town. We had a great trail ride today, without WD of course. :huggy:
Yea but ya still couldnt hang with me and Paso!!! we pulled the thelma and louis off the dam hill!! :lmao:

We had a long trail ride this evening... i think some one spiked our dinner. :lmao:
I am downloading pictures now. Should I post them here or in the poopoo bin?

We had a long trail ride this evening... i think some one spiked our dinner. :lmao:
yeah right....saddlesore should effect the crotch not the brain :lol: don't pee in my ear and tell me it's rain'n

you have me and her on the dam hill???

Don't have to prove anything to anyone! :howdy: It is what it is, enough said! :flowers:

well actually you do need to prove it, if you are going to make outrageous comments, you better be able to back them up. :whistle: so far strike 20 against you... :lmao:

yeah right....saddlesore should effect the crotch not the brain :lol: don't pee in my ear and tell me it's rain'n
Its raining....lol

yeah right....saddlesore should effect the crotch not the brain :lol: don't pee in my ear and tell me it's rain'n
We haven't seen or heard from Saddlesore in quite some time? Do you know her? :lmao:

said it before....and i'll say it again....you horse ppl are wierd :jameo:
are you STILL complaining about this?
I thought you claimed to be one.

I thought you claimed to be one.
i haven't been on one in over 10 yrs..iv'e been "cityfied"

hey...yea what crash said! And nope not saddle sore, but my knee hurts damn tree jump right into the trail!

i haven't been on one in over 10 yrs..iv'e been "cityfied"
Oh you poor thing...that sucks..you need to get back on a horse man!

I am downloading pictures now. Should I post them here or in the poopoo bin?
Better in the bin...then maybe later in the forum

I think WD had to go look up some more words or something. :yay:

Better in the bin...then maybe later in the forum
That sounded kinky... :lmao:

Oh you poor thing...that sucks..you need to get back on a horse man!
well i "was" gonna get ahold of appy to see if she could spare a mule but the way the locals are i had second thoughts :lmao:

well i "was" gonna get ahold of appy to see if she could spare a mule but the way the locals are i had second thoughts :lmao:
Hey...im a local...and my bubba is not a mule..a jack ass sometimes..but i still love him. Dont make me kick your ass callin my boy a mule!

:razz: Hey...im a local...and my bubba is not a mule..a jack ass sometimes..but i still love him. Dont make me kick your ass callin my boy a mule!
echo.... :razz: :biteme: :lmao:

Hey...im a local...and my bubba is not a mule..a jack ass sometimes..but i still love him. Dont make me kick your ass callin my boy a mule!
:boxing: :razz:

:boxing: :razz:
Bring it on :lmao: I will break you like a green horse! :wench:

Bring it on :lmao: I will break you like a green horse! :wench:

wanna ride Nicky... :killingme

Bring it on :lmao: I will break you like a green horse! :wench:
I could swear a hear a mosquito buzzn :confused:

wanna ride Nicky... :killingme
Ok! :lmao: let me get additional medical real quik...Ok...done! took out xtra life ins. policy instead skipped the middle man. :lmao:

I could swear a hear a mosquito buzzn :confused:
More like a hornet...u dont wanna upset a 100 pd redneck chic! We are some mean scary #####es :lmao:

We are like the st marys county moffia...you never know what our horses may be eating... la la la and his name was earl...

I could swear a hear a mosquito buzzn :confused:
I know your just messin with me echo... :huggy:

I know your just messin with me echo... :huggy:
i'm just sitt'n here wastin time till it's time to go to bed....which isnt till 5 am :yawn:

i'm just sitt'n here wastin time till it's time to go to bed....which isnt till 5 am :yawn:
why are u at work?

why are u at work?
because i gotta pay my bills....why are you on the puter?

i wish i coulda rode...RC had me help him haul rocks down to the bottom of the hill out back so we can finish up the culvert, so our trail isn't muddy there any more. :frown: I like the weekends he works so much better :lol:
HELP ME>>>SOMEBODY>>>SAVE ME

because i gotta pay my bills....why are you on the puter?
cause im stalkn ya! :lmao:

because i gotta pay my bills....why are you on the puter?
was asking if you were at work....not why are u at work, want me to stay up til five with ya and keep ya company? :coffee:

I'm trying to resize the pictures from today, but I keep nodding off.

Paso's gonna be pissed. Jose looks like a dressage horse.
:lmao:

:lol:

was asking if you were at work....not why are u at work, want me to stay up til five with ya and keep ya company? :coffee:
yeah...at work, and no-one deserves the punnishment of staying up till 5 am :yawn:

:lol:
lol i had the same shirt! and sorry bout ya luck...but 5 am is to far away... :razz: my ass will be sleepin!

I will think of you..oh wait..ill be sleeping...lol

lol i had the same shirt! and sorry bout ya luck...but 5 am is to far away... :razz: my ass will be sleepin!
well take your silly azz to bed then :smack:

well take your silly azz to bed then :smack:
oh stop it i like it hard! :smack:

oh stop it i like it hard! :smack:
thats what they all say...
then the bruises show up....ppl ask questions....police show up....someone gets locked up...then resentment...revenge....till your whole existance is fueled by.....










































calling someones horse a mule...
:lmao:

thats what they all say...
then the bruises show up....ppl ask questions....police show up....someone gets locked up...then resentment...revenge....till your whole existance is fueled by....








































calling someones horse a mule...
:lmao:
:lmao:

thats what they all say...
then the bruises show up....ppl ask questions....police show up....someone gets locked up...then resentment...revenge....till your whole existance is fueled by.....






calling someones horse a mule...
:lmao:


Ever listen to Eric Hutchinson?

Ever listen to Eric Hutchinson?
who-wa?

He is a singer one of his songs is could of done better...i think..

He is a singer one of his songs is could of done better...i think..
obviously not my genre of music :ohwell:

no that the title to his new album..ive heard of him.

ok listen peeps, contrary to popular belief, the personal forum known as The Manure Bin is not the latest hideout. I think I said this before, it is not a forum to replace the horse forums. Unlike some of the other personal forums, just because you request to join does not mean you will get in, you will be denied if the other members do not "personally" know you. Requesting under MPD's and names that our members do not know will get you denied. For those of you that are true horse peeps and get denied, sorry but we can't distinguish you from the multitude of fabricated horse peeps requesting. If you are a "real" horse peep and would like to know more about the manure bin, please feel free to PM me.

K I'm off my mounting block...

so lets go back to my original post... shall we... a personal forum is just that... a personal forum.. I'm sorry if any peeps got feelings hurt... just because you have a horse or pretend like you do doesn't mean you will get in. It's not a "right" that you get in because you are horse peeps, it is a "privilege", WD would like to pretend that any one with horsey knowledge is a sure get in, but really what does WD know? WD was REJECTED by me on a command decision by me and they can't take it. So "they" are now trying to :elaine: whatever...
I will aplogize to the horse folk that got cut off... it was a quick decision and the rest of the manure bin peeps agreed..

obviously not my genre of music :ohwell:
not so much mine either..my itunes sends me stuff...its not bad though.

so lets go back to my original post... shall we... a personal forum is just that... a personal forum.. I'm sorry if any peeps got feelings hurt... just because you have a horse or pretend like you do doesn't mean you will get in. It's not a "right" that you get in because you are horse peeps, it is a "privilege", WD would like to pretend that any one with horsey knowledge is a sure get in, but really what does WD know? WD was REJECTED by me on a command decision by me and they can't take it. So "they" are now trying to :elaine: whatever...
I will aplogize to the horse folk that got cut off... it was a quick decision and the rest of the manure bin peeps agreed..
uh huh thats right...so :biteme: :lmao:

not so much mine either..my itunes sends me stuff...its not bad though.
prolly country...and that stuff will rot your brain

prolly country...and that stuff will rot your brain
I prefer nickel back and tesla..greenday..etc.

so lets go back to my original post... shall we... a personal forum is just that... a personal forum.. I'm sorry if any peeps got feelings hurt... just because you have a horse or pretend like you do doesn't mean you will get in. It's not a "right" that you get in because you are horse peeps, it is a "privilege", WD would like to pretend that any one with horsey knowledge is a sure get in, but really what does WD know? WD was REJECTED by me on a command decision by me and they can't take it. So "they" are now trying to :elaine: whatever...
I will aplogize to the horse folk that got cut off... it was a quick decision and the rest of the manure bin peeps agreed..
Why is everyone so worried about the bin.....it's a PRIVATE FORUM for a reason....set your own up if you don't like it.....PAY THE MONEY and do what you want....Stop crying about not getting in and get off your ass and do it yourself, then let everyone attack you....or do you open it to everyone and make it the horse forum.....that already exists....I assume most of you are out of high school ...although do not act like it.

prolly country...and that stuff will rot your brain

:mad:

He is like a Jason Mraz or Jack Johnson type

:mad:

He is like a Jason Mraz or Jack Johnson type
I like jack johnson..and jason mraz..good stuff.

Why is everyone so worried about the bin.....it's a PRIVATE FORUM for a reason....set your own up if you don't like it.....PAY THE MONEY and do what you want....Stop crying about not getting in and get off your ass and do it yourself, then let everyone attack you....or do you open it to everyone and make it the horse forum.....that already exists....I assume most of you are out of high school ...although do not act like it.
calm down....it's called stirr'n the shiat.
that is what this forum is about.
only about 15% of all conversations here are actually legit

:mad:

He is like a Jason Mraz or Jack Johnson type
Godsmack
Chevelle
3 Days Grace
Breaking Benjamin
PANTERA
:larry:

Breaking benjamin!!!

Breaking benjamin!!!
Saliva
Disturbed
Red
Linkin Park
(i could go on forever)

Saliva
Disturbed
Red
Linkin Park
(i could go on forever)
linken park!! :larry:

Im off to bed..goodnite all!!

linken park!! :larry:
I was here a couple weeks ago at the Verizon center :razz:
CLICK ME (http://linkinpark.com/projektrevolution/member/projektrevolution)

Im off to bed..goodnite all!!

holly crap Giddy, what part of OFF topic did you not understand... :lmao:

holly crap Giddy, what part of OFF topic did you not understand... :lmao:
hey...you moderating this forum? its midnite...im so tired i dont remember the topic! :lmao:

hey...you moderating this forum? its midnite...im so tired i dont remember the topic! :lmao:
:lightweight:

:lightweight:
like i said echo... :biteme: sweet dreams baby!

like i said echo... :biteme: sweet dreams baby!
:snooze:

:offtopic: :thewave:You tricked us into believing there might be somthing exciting to read, but it's just music that I have never heard of :coffee: no that the title to his new album..ive heard of him.

I can make you a T-shirt that says " I am a crazy lying Biotch AkA WD" I can send it in the mail or drop it off at your barn. I know where you reside, and the horses do too. :lmao:

You just have an evil soul!

:huggy: You just have an evil soul!
YOu live there too. DO you want me to send you a T-shirt too? :huggy:

:huggy:
YOu live there too. DO you want me to send you a T-shirt too? :huggy:
Oh and as they say WD and Dreamer...."Birds of a feather, flock together". If you need me to explain it to you let me know. I am great at explaining things since I have been teaching so long! I guess there are a lot of "crazy" people out there, as I think you stated earlier, that would take from me. :lmao:

Oh and as they say WD and Dreamer...."Birds of a feather, flock together". If you need me to explain it to you let me know. I am great at explaining things since I have been teaching so long! I guess there are a lot of "crazy" people out there, as I think you stated earlier, that would take from me. :lmao:

It is amazing to us that you call what you do "teaching". :smack: Instilling bad habits would be a better term, i.e. poor posture, unsafe habits, hideous jumping form, etc. :whistle: Teachers work long and hard and deserve that title. You do nothing but brag about your self-proclaimed talents and leave your "students" with no viable riding skills! :coffee:

It is amazing to us that you call what you do "teaching". :smack: Instilling bad habits would be a better term, i.e. poor posture, unsafe habits, hideous jumping form, etc. :whistle: Teachers work long and hard and deserve that title. You do nothing but brag about your self-proclaimed talents and leave your "students" with no viable riding skills! :coffee:

Not that I really want to play along, as a matter of fact I dont, but I do believe on of her students placed third in the Tag along equitation medal class final in the last show. Not that I am getting in the middle of all this please its just an observation.

Not that I really want to play along, as a matter of fact I dont, but I do believe on of her students placed third in the Tag along equitation medal class final in the last show. Not that I am getting in the middle of all this please its just an observation.

That student also takes lessons with another well known instructor in the area.

That student also takes lessons with another well known instructor in the area.

I have not been getting into this either but why would someone need two instructors wouldn't that be counter productive?

Originally Posted by Winn Dixie
It is amazing to us that you call what you do "teaching". Instilling bad habits would be a better term, i.e. poor posture, unsafe habits, hideous jumping form, etc. Teachers work long and hard and deserve that title. You do nothing but brag about your self-proclaimed talents and leave your "students" with no viable riding skills! .

Perhaps WD could inform us of what good habits look like and from whom we should take lessons to learn them. :yay:

Perhaps WD could inform us of what good habits look like and from whom we should take lessons to learn them. :yay:

Good habits don't "look" like anything, you either have them or you don't! :howdy: No suggestions as to lessons, they are individual and everyone has a different idea of what they want. :flowers:

That student also takes lessons with another well known instructor in the area.

Yes, but Sadie is the one who coaches her at all her shows and schools her prior to entering the ring.

Good habits don't "look" like anything, you either have them or you don't! :howdy: No suggestions as to lessons, they are individual and everyone has a different idea of what they want. :flowers:



hmm i wonder how one would recognize a good habit if they don't look like anything.

so if everyone has a different idea of what they want, then perhaps your students good habits are what others might consider bad habits....because i personally don't see many bad habits in SL's students riding.

Yes, but Sadie is the one who coaches her at all her shows and schools her prior to entering the ring.

Coaching at a show is like cramming for an exam, if you haven't learned what you need to know throughout the semester, you're not going to learn it on the way to the testing area. :howdy:

Coaching at a show is like cramming for an exam, if you haven't learned what you need to know throughout the semester, you're not going to learn it on the way to the testing area. :howdy:

So are you saying neither SL or her other instructor were any help to her in her lessons?? Your statment confuses me. I have watched many lessons from SL and her students always do well, especially at Eq. But I am not getting into an argument with anyone over something so silly. I have nothing against you personally WD but I cant see your point here.

i wish wd would comment on my last statement, oh the anticipation is killing me. she's not making much sense today. as usual.

i wish wd would comment on my last statement, oh the anticipation is killing me. she's not making much sense today. as usual.

Yes she basically put down both of this persons instructors. I dont know if she realized it but oh well. I am done. Moving on now. Dont go looking at my camera. You might be scared of what you will find :killingme

Coaching at a show is like cramming for an exam, if you haven't learned what you need to know throughout the semester, you're not going to learn it on the way to the testing area. :howdy:
Yes....WD, why would a student need two instructors for the same discipline? Tell everyone why you truly hate me... Is it that you cannot handle any of your students having other instructors? I see that only as insecurity. I teach many students that have more than one instructor. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I encourage my students to take clinics and lessons from anyone they wish. You can learn something from everyone....maybe even you. The funny thing is I have never bashed on your riding or your teaching because I have never actually watched you ride or teach and that wouldn't be very professional of me. The funnier thing is no one seems to have ever really seen you ride other than the flat. Many people have seen me do both. In fact I made a youtube video specifically for you remember? If not just go to Youtube and type in "Riding is a Sport". I don't brag about my ability. I don't have to, I will leave that up to the rated judges. Your opinion means as little to me as your slithering ways. :wench:

Yes....WD, why would a student need two instructors for the same discipline? Tell everyone why you truly hate me... Is it that you cannot handle any of your students having other instructors? I see that only as insecurity. I teach many students that have more than one instructor. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I encourage my students to take clinics and lessons from anyone they wish. You can learn something from everyone....maybe even you. The funny thing is I have never bashed on your riding or your teaching because I have never actually watched you ride or teach and that wouldn't be very professional of me. The funnier thing is no one seems to have ever really seen you ride other than the flat. Many people have seen me do both. In fact I made a youtube video specifically for you remember? If not just go to Youtube and type in "Riding is a Sport". I don't brag about my ability. I don't have to, I will leave that up to the rated judges. Your opinion means as little to me as your slithering ways. :wench:

Bout time you showed up. Didnt I tell you no more Benadryl!!

When it gets heated WD and her MPDs just slither away... Goodnight all. It was fun seeing some of you today. :howdy:

That student also takes lessons with another well known instructor in the area.
Is this the same Lara that worked at FI? How lovely of you to join us. Oh I forgot I need to get some sleep. It has been a long fun weekend. :howdy:

So are you saying neither SL or her other instructor were any help to her in her lessons?? .

No. :flowers:

Coaching at a show is like cramming for an exam, if you haven't learned what you need to know throughout the semester, you're not going to learn it on the way to the testing area. :howdy:

What if that lesson or situation has yet to come up during the semester (or lessons at home). GUESS SCRATCHING FROM THE SHOW WOULD BE THE ONLY OPTION.

Man I feel so ripped off. All those years of paying coaching fees just to find out it was a waste of money. We will have to let all the riders & owners at the upcoming Maryland Horse & Pony show that they have it all wrong by cramming for there exam and all the trainers are taking advantage of them. Maybe we should petition the USEF to not allow anyone to coach riders on the grounds because it isn't necessary. Or be like PV & coach via cell phone.

Why wouldn't a trainer want to be part of there students success?? That is what I don't understand??? Why wouldn't all trainers involved in a rider & horses training want to come to the show?? Were they not asked?? SOMEONE Please clear this up for me. :jameo:

Many successful riders have more than one trainer in the Hunter/Eq/Jumper world. Especially when they get to the higher levels. They work together successfully because they are confident in there skills and don't feel threatened.

That student also takes lessons with another well known instructor in the area.

So both Sadie & this other well known trainer coached at the show together??

Oh, That's like the young lady that came in 2nd in the MSA Tag-A-Long medal. She had three different (or more) trainers working with her & several were at the show coaching her. Now that is great to see professionals working together like that. :huggy:

I have not been getting into this either but why would someone need two instructors wouldn't that be counter productive?

It is very common in the Hunter/Jumper/Eq. showing.

It is very common in the Hunter/Jumper/Eq. showing.

I think that is odd..

I think that is odd..

Not so much at the local level, but more so at the larger show barns. Some have several trainers that go on the road and some that stay home to keep things running at the farm.

That reminds me of a thread about trainers that can ride and some are better at teaching. Some barns have both.

Sorry if I'm not making any sense. The Broncitis is still kicking my butt and the meds are making it hard for me to sleep. I'm seeing Tylenol PM in my future. :lmao:

Yes....WD, why would a student need two instructors for the same discipline? Tell everyone why you truly hate me... Is it that you cannot handle any of your students having other instructors? I see that only as insecurity. I teach many students that have more than one instructor. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. I encourage my students to take clinics and lessons from anyone they wish. You can learn something from everyone....maybe even you. The funny thing is I have never bashed on your riding or your teaching because I have never actually watched you ride or teach and that wouldn't be very professional of me. The funnier thing is no one seems to have ever really seen you ride other than the flat. Many people have seen me do both. In fact I made a youtube video specifically for you remember? If not just go to Youtube and type in "Riding is a Sport". I don't brag about my ability. I don't have to, I will leave that up to the rated judges. Your opinion means as little to me as your slithering ways. :wench:


nice comeback =D :popcorn:

Not so much at the local level, but more so at the larger show barns. Some have several trainers that go on the road and some that stay home to keep things running at the farm.

That reminds me of a thread about trainers that can ride and some are better at teaching. Some barns have both.

Sorry if I'm not making any sense. The Broncitis is still kicking my butt and the meds are making it hard for me to sleep. I'm seeing Tylenol PM in my future. :lmao:

Hope you feel better soon!

I sometimes ride with a trainer our of Middleburg, Va. But, for the most part I ride with Ray Wheeler (Harwood, MD) and Vanessa Swartz (Silver Spring, MD). Ray is awesome at teaching you why a horse does what it does and the CORRECT way to change/fix things. I've been riding with him for years! Vanessa is an Grand Prix dressage rider who trains with Linda Zang and Bent Jensen.

But, since I don't ride at their barns neither of them come to my shows. I'm sure if I asked and paid they would, but I've been showing on my own for 11 years.

I think it's great for trainers to go to shows with new or young riders because the atmosphere is different and the horse will be different at the shows if it's not an enviroment that they are used to.

Is this the same Lara that worked at FI? How lovely of you to join us. Oh I forgot I need to get some sleep. It has been a long fun weekend. :howdy:


Um no I do not work at Flat Iron. Actually I am not directly associated with any of the barns around here. The whole reason I brought that up is that if two instructors are responsible for the person's success that one person should not take the credit. It was a team effort to have the person succeed.

I think that is odd..
Usually the instructors are working "together" at the same barn. Their goals, abilities, and riding styles are common, and they want their students to succeed. A lot of the "big" barns will temporarily farm out their students to other big trainers when they can not make the same show due to a conflict in shows. Some trainers actually borrow students from other trainers to ride their horses/ponies for them. We are "small beans" here compared to so many other places. "Well known" in my book means that basically any top trainer or judge would know who you are... There are some very knowledgeable people on this forum. If you give them your references I am sure they would love to check them out, WD!! :yay:

Um no I do not work at Flat Iron. Actually I am not directly associated with any of the barns around here. The whole reason I brought that up is that if two instructors are responsible for the person's success that one person should not take the credit. It was a team effort to have the person succeed.


How do you know so much about some random, unnamed person then?

Um no I do not work at Flat Iron. Actually I am not directly associated with any of the barns around here. The whole reason I brought that up is that if two instructors are responsible for the person's success that one person should not take the credit. It was a team effort to have the person succeed.
That is because you went off to college right? You used to be directly related to FI. In fact I believe you were one of their "trainers". I never took credit for that students success anyway. She was a talented rider before she ever moved to this town. I do not want to bring my students into this mess. They deserve better. My students know that their success depends on their hard work, dedication, and training. It is my job to advise them what to work on.:coffee:

That is because you went off to college right? You used to be directly related to FI. In fact I believe you were one of their "trainers". I never took credit for that students success anyway. She was a talented rider before she ever moved to this town. I do not want to bring my students into this mess. They deserve better. My students know that their success depends on their hard work, dedication, and training. It is my job to advise them what to work on.:coffee:

Actually shady, didnt you have several students do well in Eq the last show, including a champion?? Ok I really am done now. I dont want to play, really! Giddy was right. You two need to just make up or ......

Actually shady, didnt you have several students do well in Eq the last show, including a champion?? Ok I really am done now. I dont want to play, really! Giddy was right. You two need to just make up or ......

get a private forum. WD only antagonizes you because it makes for interesting reading. I suspect they don't really care about you personally one way or the other. Stick to the relevant helpful topics and the fun stuff! You'll feel better :smile:

That is because you went off to college right? You used to be directly related to FI. In fact I believe you were one of their "trainers". I never took credit for that students success anyway. She was a talented rider before she ever moved to this town. I do not want to bring my students into this mess. They deserve better. My students know that their success depends on their hard work, dedication, and training. It is my job to advise them what to work on.:coffee:

I have no idea what you are talking about. My screen name is after Lara Croft in Tomb Raider.

I have never taught at any barn down here in Southern Maryland. I have been around the horse world for a while also and not just in Maryland.

What if that lesson or situation has yet to come up during the semester (or lessons at home). GUESS SCRATCHING FROM THE SHOW WOULD BE THE ONLY OPTION.

Man I feel so ripped off. All those years of paying coaching fees just to find out it was a waste of money. We will have to let all the riders & owners at the upcoming Maryland Horse & Pony show that they have it all wrong by cramming for there exam and all the trainers are taking advantage of them. Maybe we should petition the USEF to not allow anyone to coach riders on the grounds because it isn't necessary. Or be like PV & coach via cell phone.

Why wouldn't a trainer want to be part of there students success?? That is what I don't understand??? Why wouldn't all trainers involved in a rider & horses training want to come to the show?? Were they not asked?? SOMEONE Please clear this up for me. :jameo:

Many successful riders have more than one trainer in the Hunter/Eq/Jumper world. Especially when they get to the higher levels. They work together successfully because they are confident in there skills and don't feel threatened.

At the risk of turning red I have to agree with WD about coaching at shows. I'd like to hope that my students have learned all they need to succeed at a show at home and are completely prepared when they arrive at a show. That's not to say that I don't go with my students to shows, watch their warm-ups, watch their rounds, and give advice, but I don't charge for it. After all they've paid me to teach them how to succeed at a show and it just seems excessive to take more money for what they should already have learned. A show is not the time to be learning new skills and there are occasions when scratching is a valid choice. There is no shame in scratching and there are situations that definitely call for it. :howdy:

At the risk of turning red I have to agree with WD about coaching at shows. I'd like to hope that my students have learned all they need to succeed at a show at home and are completely prepared when they arrive at a show. That's not to say that I don't go with my students to shows, watch their warm-ups, watch their rounds, and give advice, but I don't charge for it. After all they've paid me to teach them how to succeed at a show and it just seems excessive to take more money for what they should already have learned. A show is not the time to be learning new skills and there are occasions when scratching is a valid choice. There is no shame in scratching and there are situations that definitely call for it. :howdy:

My trainer does not teach me new skills right before a show. But sometimes nerves kick in and you get distracted. Its nice to have your trainer there to re-focus your attention and get you back on track. To remind you of all that you have learned and to now put all of that together and show all what you can do. I can go to any show on my own and do fine, but I dont want to do just fine, I want to do great and sometimes having a trainer there for that final push really helps.

That is because you went off to college right? You used to be directly related to FI. In fact I believe you were one of their "trainers". I never took credit for that students success anyway. She was a talented rider before she ever moved to this town. I do not want to bring my students into this mess. They deserve better. My students know that their success depends on their hard work, dedication, and training. It is my job to advise them what to work on.:coffee:

amen! and you are really good teacher though!

My trainer does not teach me new skills right before a show. But sometimes nerves kick in and you get distracted. Its nice to have your trainer there to re-focus your attention and get you back on track. To remind you of all that you have learned and to now put all of that together and show all what you can do. I can go to any show on my own and do fine, but I dont want to do just fine, I want to do great and sometimes having a trainer there for that final push really helps.

I agree, and I'm there to help my students when/if they need it.

I like it when my instructor comes, because its nice to have that re-assuring feeling... and maybe i just say that because its only my 2nd show season, but to me i like having one there on guard or to help me school, because i cant watch me jump or ride, like yeah i know what im suppose to look like and what im suppose to do, but like farmgirl said, if your nerves start to take over your instructor can get you back refocused and on track and give you that extra push to do you best. and you may get overly worried about your eq or what ever and then you think you look good, but its nice to have your instructor around to be like "relax you look like you got stiff back problems" or your "anticipating the jump to much, breath and wait for it" or what ever

But its also an awesome feeling that when you do really good and they see you place REALLY good or something, and you make them really proud and you can just see it on your instructors face how happy they are and its just nice to have someone there supporting you.

Yeah you should know the stuff your going in the show to do, but shows sometimes esp on green horses, things pop up and new experiences happen because green horses can sometimes be unpredictible, and if you arent experienced in what ever the horse is doing bad, you need your instructor there to coach you through it so in that case you'd be learning new things. and yeah i know the saying "well if the rider isnt experienced then why the hell is she/he on the green horse" but sometimes you get stuck with it, like my horse is trained, but has no miles on him, and needs retraining, and he can be a little bit unpredictible at shows, and since ive only been riding a year, its nice to have a re-enforcement of an instructor to coach you though it.

I dont know. Maybe all this is just because my lack of experience with shows and all, but thats what i personally think/feel

It's completely normal in the hunter/eq world to show with a coach. They're there to give you a good warm-up and discuss the course before and after. Most riders want to go over their round in excruciation detail and prefer to discuss it with someone who can give good immediate feedback. :smile: It doesn’t mean they can’t ride on their own and couldn’t go in without the coach. It gives the coach a chance to see the rider in the situation they’ve trained for and adjust the home training program. Coaches who will spend all day with you just observing and helping are awesome!

any other sport the coach is present at the game. and coaching. i think it is excellent to have the trainer be a coach at the show as well. it can be like having another lesson because perhaps the horse acts differently, rider is nervous, etc, there are always things to work on. showing on your own has benefits...you can save money not paying your coach, and you can prove to yourself you don't need a coach. but it sure is nice to have one.
plus, the class we were talking about - the tag a long medal...its what, a 2'6" or 2'9" course? I think anyone competing at that level would benefit from their coach(es) being there, and I'm sorry for anyone whose coach(es) could not be there! it was an important championship class!!

I have no idea what you are talking about. My screen name is after Lara Croft in Tomb Raider.

I have never taught at any barn down here in Southern Maryland. I have been around the horse world for a while also and not just in Maryland.
Then how do you know this student has 2 english trainers(1 hunt seat), and why would you even care? Interesting timing with so few posts to pop in on this thread.

oooh i got the triple red karmas from this thread. thanks a lot WD MPDs!!

oooh i got the triple red karmas from this thread. thanks a lot WD MPDs!!
I am sure I did too, but I think it is even funnier not to check. It is like WD is wasting her breath (as usual). :lmao: :lalala:

oooh i got the triple red karmas from this thread. thanks a lot WD MPDs!!

holy crap so soon... :jameo:

How do you know so much about some random, unnamed person then?


hmmm :yeahthat:

oooh i got the triple red karmas from this thread. thanks a lot WD MPDs!!

that's all it is.. WD is nothing more than a MPD of a non-horsey folk... they know nothing about horses, can't answer any questions about horses, and what they do answer is only based on something they found on the internet. as for knowing anything else some other horsey MPD or folk PMed and gave them info thinking they were going to do damage to Sadie's reputation. Sadie keeps playing so WD keeps playing.. (sorry Sadie but that is my investigation... :huggy: I could be wrong... :whistle:

you can't be too far off! they certainly don't back up their comments or statements with any knowledge!

that's all it is.. WD is nothing more than a MPD of a non-horsey folk... they know nothing about horses, can't answer any questions about horses, and what they do answer is only based on something they found on the internet. as for knowing anything else some other horsey MPD or folk PMed and gave them info thinking they were going to do damage to Sadie's reputation. Sadie keeps playing so WD keeps playing.. (sorry Sadie but that is my investigation... :huggy: I could be wrong... :whistle:

:jameo: :jameo: :jameo:

:jameo: :jameo: :jameo:
Hey you can see the 3 MPD's. They look like the same person! :lmao:

Then how do you know this student has 2 english trainers(1 hunt seat), and why would you even care? Interesting timing with so few posts to pop in on this thread.


1. Because people talk in the real world about things. Maybe I know this student personally, did you ever think of that?

2. I have been around here for a very long time, but since I actually have a real job where I can not post very often I keep my mouth shut unless I have something to say.

3. I am not attacking you personally so why are you getting all upset? I never said that it is wrong to have two coaches. I also never said the other trainer's name either since it is a public forum.

1. Because people talk in the real world about things. Maybe I know this student personally, did you ever think of that?

2. I have been around here for a very long time, but since I actually have a real job where I can not post very often I keep my mouth shut unless I have something to say.

3. I am not attacking you personally so why are you getting all upset? I never said that it is wrong to have two coaches. I also never said the other trainer's name either since it is a public forum.


Ahhh, yes the public forum that is attached to the "real world" where people talk about things (see number 1).

1. Because people talk in the real world about things. Maybe I know this student personally, did you ever think of that?

2. I have been around here for a very long time, but since I actually have a real job where I can not post very often I keep my mouth shut unless I have something to say.

3. I am not attacking you personally so why are you getting all upset? I never said that it is wrong to have two coaches. I also never said the other trainer's name either since it is a public forum.

You must understand that Shady is very sensitive since she isn't certified, isn't a real trainer and has very low self esteem because of her looks. :howdy: Take everything she says with a grain of salt because she's just slightly paranoid and does believe everyone is attacking her personally. :whistle:

You must understand that Shady is very sensitive since she isn't certified, isn't a real trainer and has very low self esteem because of her looks. :howdy: Take everything she says with a grain of salt because she's just slightly paranoid and does believe everyone is attacking her personally. :whistle:


Come on WD...you know that I like you (most the time :lmao: ). Can you at least let me know why you are consistantly throwing barbs at "Shady" for the certified thing. I learned a LOT from many many trainers...and I venture to say that none of them were Certified. :popcorn:

Come on WD...you know that I like you (most the time :lmao: ). Can you at least let me know why you are consistantly throwing barbs at "Shady" for the certified thing. I learned a LOT from many many trainers...and I venture to say that none of them were Certified. :popcorn:

You're one of our favorite people too. :huggy: However, if you're going to claim to be an instructor/trainer you should have some organization back you up. We are a nation of consumers and we need to know that the services we are paying for and the products we are purchasing are what they should be and that there is someone or something behind them if something goes wrong. Just because someone believes they can ride does not mean that they can teach someone to ride. There are organizations that will test and qualify people to do this and it insures that the standards for doing it are maintained at a higher level than your backyard lessons. The certified trainers have to maintain their levels of competence and are tested regularly. Just what is wrong with that concept? Don't you think parents and children deserve that, at a minimum? :howdy:

You're one of our favorite people too. :huggy: However, if you're going to claim to be an instructor/trainer you should have some organization back you up. We are a nation of consumers and we need to know that the services we are paying for and the products we are purchasing are what they should be and that there is someone or something behind them if something goes wrong. Just because someone believes they can ride does not mean that they can teach someone to ride. There are organizations that will test and qualify people to do this and it insures that the standards for doing it are maintained at a higher level than your backyard lessons. The certified trainers have to maintain their levels of competence and are tested regularly. Just what is wrong with that concept? Don't you think parents and children deserve that, at a minimum? :howdy:


Alright...I see your point... :howdy:
now...counterpoint:
I spent some time in the 80's learning how to break horses from an uncertified trainer...by the name of Monty Roberts. Now...nobody would ask him to see his certification...but he is known as a very renown horseman (even if I disagree with his business dealings, he is incredible with horses). It seems to me it is at the lower levels of riding instruction, where beginners who don't know the reputations of trainers and require a certification to sift through knowledgable v. not so knowledgable trainers. But to people in the horse industry... does it really matter? and should one be attacked on that basis alone?

Hey, you want to go after Sadie...go for it, makes for hours of interesting reading on a rainy day (add a sex scandel and it rivals desperate housewives :snacks:), but perhaps you can attack some other area that so many qualified yet uncertified people could fall into.

Alright...I see your point... :howdy:
now...counterpoint:
I spent some time in the 80's learning how to break horses from an uncertified trainer...by the name of Monty Roberts. Now...nobody would ask him to see his certification...but he is known as a very renown horseman (even if I disagree with his business dealings, he is incredible with horses). It seems to me it is at the lower levels of riding instruction, where beginners who don't know the reputations of trainers and require a certification to sift through knowledgable v. not so knowledgable trainers. But to people in the horse industry... does it really matter? and should one be attacked on that basis alone?

Hey, you want to go after Sadie...go for it, makes for hours of interesting reading on a rainy day (add a sex scandel and it rivals desperate housewives :snacks:), but perhaps you can attack some other area that so many qualified yet uncertified people could fall into.

Personally, I think Sadie could be certified out the ying yang and WD would then still find some other area to attack, it's just the person that gets under her,,I mean their skin... :popcorn:

Personally, I think Sadie could be certified out the ying yang and WD would then still find some other area to attack, it's just the person that gets under her,,I mean their skin... :popcorn:


:howdy: I hear ya... was just trying to help moderate a fair fight. I think their spats are fun...but I would like to see it without bringing in children, and a different topic than a piece of paper...lets see these spats evolve into more current issues! :lmao:

:huggy:

:howdy: I hear ya... was just trying to help moderate a fair fight. I think their spats are fun...but I would like to see it without bringing in children, and a different topic than a piece of paper...lets see these spats evolve into more current issues! :lmao:

:huggy:


:yay: Yeah that.... So off topic,, were you at the MW show the other weekend??

:yay: Yeah that.... So off topic,, were you at the MW show the other weekend??

No...I turned my youngin out after the AQHA show in Sept. I just started to work him back this past week...May take him to a schooling show next month once he is refreshed. He is only 2 so I don't want to push him...he is an awesome minded dude!

Tried to give you green...says I need to share the love first! :huggy:

You're one of our favorite people too. :huggy: However, if you're going to claim to be an instructor/trainer you should have some organization back you up. We are a nation of consumers and we need to know that the services we are paying for and the products we are purchasing are what they should be and that there is someone or something behind them if something goes wrong. Just because someone believes they can ride does not mean that they can teach someone to ride. There are organizations that will test and qualify people to do this and it insures that the standards for doing it are maintained at a higher level than your backyard lessons. The certified trainers have to maintain their levels of competence and are tested regularly. Just what is wrong with that concept? Don't you think parents and children deserve that, at a minimum? :howdy:


i think its a scam for the CHA to make money. if you want to know what you are paying for, go watch the person teach. just because you are "certified" doesn't mean you are not teaching "back yard lessons"

i think its a scam for the CHA to make money. if you want to know what you are paying for, go watch the person teach. just because you are "certified" doesn't mean you are not teaching "back yard lessons"

We've been through this and everyone knows we do not agree. :flowers: However, do you also believe that doctors don't need a license because it's just a scam by the AMA or that attorneys don't need a license because it's a scam by the ABA or that drivers don't need a license because it's a scam by the MVA. With that line of thinking, all we need to do is know how to read and anyone can teach anything! :whistle: We've been watching extreme makeover for years now, maybe we should start teaching plastic surgery! :coffee: Come to think of it, we like your way of thinking, to heck with licenses and certifications, buyer beware! :jameo:

I just peed myself..thanks Phyxius...thats all carry on..

We've been through this and everyone knows we do not agree. :flowers: However, do you also believe that doctors don't need a license because it's just a scam by the AMA or that attorneys don't need a license because it's a scam by the ABA or that drivers don't need a license because it's a scam by the MVA. With that line of thinking, all we need to do is know how to read and anyone can teach anything! :whistle: We've been watching extreme makeover for years now, maybe we should start teaching plastic surgery! :coffee: Come to think of it, we like your way of thinking, to heck with licenses and certifications, buyer beware! :jameo:


come on, teaching riding lessons is far from any of those. perhaps if there were actual state or nation-wide certification systems for teaching riding, as in great britain and canada, it would be another story, but the US is lacking in that department. I took riding lessons from a previous dressage olympic teach chef d'equip and she was.....UNcertified.

come on, teaching riding lessons is far from any of those. perhaps if there were actual state or nation-wide certification systems for teaching riding, as in great britain and canada, it would be another story, but the US is lacking in that department. I took riding lessons from a previous dressage olympic teach chef d'equip and she was.....UNcertified.


in fact WD, i think you need to start a nation-wide riding lesson certification system that people actually pay attention to, since you are so concerned with certification. CHA is useless to me, no one seems to use it except beginning instructors who think it will make them look good to have a certification by their names....and maybe it will look good to beginning riders, but experienced riders know that its useless....

Now, the USDF and USEA (have you heard of those?) certification programs are slightly less useless, as they have more requirements for certification. and are discipline specific...

but most higher level riders have no certifications! Perhaps because they don't need them to get students!!!!!

so who are you certified by?

:popcorn:

in fact WD, i think you need to start a nation-wide riding lesson certification system that people actually pay attention to, since you are so concerned with certification. CHA is useless to me, no one seems to use it except beginning instructors who think it will make them look good to have a certification by their names....and maybe it will look good to beginning riders, but experienced riders know that its useless....

Now, the USDF and USEA (have you heard of those?) certification programs are slightly less useless, as they have more requirements for certification. and are discipline specific...

but most higher level riders have no certifications! Perhaps because they don't need them to get students!!!!!

so who are you certified by?

:popcorn:

Keep right on eating that popcorn because, unlike Shady, we don't open our lives to the forum! :howdy:

Well, I've got to say that I am very NOT impressed with CHA certification. Did you know and here I'm gonna quote this for ya just so I don't mess it up:

LEVEL ONE INSTRUCTOR: qualified to provide foundational instruction to beginners, with a strong emphasis on safety and group control; candidates must demonstrate ability in ground handling, mounting, correct position and control at walk-trot.

So, did you know that according to CHA a level one INSTRUCTOR only has to be able to show correct position and control at the walk and trot? I've seen 5 year olds who can do that. So, they can teach someone that they are supposed to have a straight line from ear/shldr/hip/heel and bit/rein/wrist/elbow. WOOPIE! I'd pay someone $40 + to tell me that.

But you want to know something funny? The don't have to know diagonals until second level instructor...
LEVEL TWO INSTRUCTOR: English and/or Western, qualified to improve all aspects of the first level, and progressing through canter/lope, including diagonals, balance of horse and rider, pre-jumping exercises, western patterns, trail riding, etc.


I guess that's why there are so many kids posting around on the wrong diagonal. They only have FIRST LEVEL CHA CERTIFIED instructors...

Also, while you learn to canter so you can teach level two you don't have to know jack about leads until level three. This also when you learn "style". Oh yeah and horse care.
LEVEL THREE INSTRUCTOR: English and/or Western, qualified to coach students in improving form, style and understanding of the natural aids, including basic jumping, school figures and leads with a greater emphasis on horsemanship theory and horse care.


So, by fourth level instructor certification you can begin to teach things like jump courses and dressage movements... Since you didn't have to know your diagonal until level 2 and your leads until level 3 maybe this means you've finally learned the elementary skill of leg yields. I'm sure your not schooling tempis. Oops, you don't even know what a tempi is yet, huh?
LEVEL FOUR INSTRUCTOR: English and/or Western, qualified to improve the performance of advanced riders and their horses, including jumping courses, dressage movements, reining, and other performance events, advanced horse management and horsemanship theory.

If you'd like to read the whole page full of :bs: it can be found here - http://www.cha-ahse.org/cert.htm#inst

Oh, and don't think I'm cutting ARIA any slack they're just as bad....

http://www.riding-instructor.com/certification/levels.php

Oh, and don't think I'm cutting ARIA any slack they're just as bad....

http://www.riding-instructor.com/certification/levels.php

Okay, we didn't want to go there, but if you're so into horses why the hello are you still riding at your weight! Don't slam organizations that are really trying to better the sport while riders like yourself are going totally against recommended weights, etc. for the safety of rider and horse. :whistle:

Okay, we didn't want to go there, but if you're so into horses why the hello are you still riding at your weight! Don't slam organizations that are really trying to better the sport while riders like yourself are going totally against recommended weights, etc. for the safety of rider and horse. :whistle:

HOLD ON...weight has nothing to do with it...if you want to go on weight pound for pound I am heavier on my horse then she is...personal attacks will be defended here...

Okay, we didn't want to go there, but if you're so into horses why the hello are you still riding at your weight! Don't slam organizations that are really trying to better the sport while riders like yourself are going totally against recommended weights, etc. for the safety of rider and horse. :whistle:


First don't give me any :bs: about you not wanting to go there. I darn well know you've been DYING to go there. I've gotten your veiled threats before and honey it doesn't hurt my feelings at all. I posted your red karma regarding my horse and the 20% ratio and you need to go back to school and learn some basic math. So, I've got some more pounds I can pack on before I reach that rate.

Now, what I would LOVE is to see you ride. C'mon I won't even bring a camera. Anytime, anyplace. And quit the :bs: about this being a forum and you not wanting people stalking you. You're a lying, jealous, no talent wanna be. I have nothing to hide. My name is right below my post. I know a good number of people on this board. I ride with them and against them and sometimes I beat them, sometimes they beat me. But, never have any of them been as petty as you.

If what you post is the thoughts of a certified instructor I'm damn proud NOT to ride with one and I would really look hard at having you represent ANYTHING I owned.

Oh, and honey don't hate just 'cause I beat your students. I have nothing against them.

HOLD ON...weight has nothing to do with it...if you want to go on weight pound for pound I am heavier on my horse then she is...personal attacks will be defended here...

:huggy:

Okay, we didn't want to go there, but if you're so into horses why the hello are you still riding at your weight! Don't slam organizations that are really trying to better the sport while riders like yourself are going totally against recommended weights, etc. for the safety of rider and horse. :whistle:

apparently you have never met peanut... :lmao: so what do you and your horse weigh? oh that's right you can't discuss such things on an open forum, but you have absolutely no problem personally attacking others on here. :smack:

apparently you have never met peanut... :lmao: so what do you and your horse weigh? oh that's right you can't discuss such things on an open forum, but you have absolutely no problem personally attacking others on here. :smack:

I am sorry but what you said WD is a low blow and uncalled for. Phyxius is one of the nicest, most giving people I have met. She shared her wonderful horse with me who fits her just perfect. Attacking someone personally is going to far. I have tolerated your red karma MPD's but this time :shutup: There I feel better!

I dont see Peanut complaining! Phyxius is one of the best riders i've ever met. I think you just drew the line now wd. So BITE US!!!!

Okay, we didn't want to go there, but if you're so into horses why the hello are you still riding at your weight! Don't slam organizations that are really trying to better the sport while riders like yourself are going totally against recommended weights, etc. for the safety of rider and horse. :whistle:

Just goes to show you can be an idiot and still be certified!

First don't give me any :bs: about you not wanting to go there. I darn well know you've been DYING to go there. I've gotten your veiled threats before and honey it doesn't hurt my feelings at all. I posted your red karma regarding my horse and the 20% ratio and you need to go back to school and learn some basic math. So, I've got some more pounds I can pack on before I reach that rate.

Now, what I would LOVE is to see you ride. C'mon I won't even bring a camera. Anytime, anyplace. And quit the :bs: about this being a forum and you not wanting people stalking you. You're a lying, jealous, no talent wanna be. I have nothing to hide. My name is right below my post. I know a good number of people on this board. I ride with them and against them and sometimes I beat them, sometimes they beat me. But, never have any of them been as petty as you.

If what you post is the thoughts of a certified instructor I'm damn proud NOT to ride with one and I would really look hard at having you represent ANYTHING I owned.

Oh, and honey don't hate just 'cause I beat your students. I have nothing against them.



HAHA omg i LOVE this whole post you wrote! Nice going Phyxius!! hugs for you! :huggy:

Wow. The motorcycle people are really nice compared to this group.

I know a good number of people on this board. I ride with them and against them and sometimes I beat them, sometimes they beat me.

YUP you beat beat the snot of us. :lmao: :huggy:

I never thought I'd say this to horse people but please stop fighting.

I never thought I'd say this to horse people but please stop fighting.
Personally, it is tearing me apart.

in fact WD, i think you need to start a nation-wide riding lesson certification system that people actually pay attention to, since you are so concerned with certification. CHA is useless to me, no one seems to use it except beginning instructors who think it will make them look good to have a certification by their names....and maybe it will look good to beginning riders, but experienced riders know that its useless....

Now, the USDF and USEA (have you heard of those?) certification programs are slightly less useless, as they have more requirements for certification. and are discipline specific...

but most higher level riders have no certifications! Perhaps because they don't need them to get students!!!!!

so who are you certified by?

:popcorn:



Ok so this is very true! You dont need to be certified to be an instructor, SL is amazing teacher, and there are some certified people that are just awful, just because you have a certification (not including USDF or USEF) dosent make you a good instructor, all it is is a peice of paper! Basically no matter if you have that little peice of paper or not, theres always good instructors and sucky ones! its all about your training, your drive, your experience, and what you've accomplished.

If you have the training, but dont have the drive to take your students as far as you can, or you arent into it then you shouldnt teach, and if you dont have the training... well experience i should say, then you shouldnt teach casue you might put your student in a dangerous postion if a horse dose something and you have no idea what to do!

and futhermore, i know people that have the big USDF certification,and they sure as heck dont down those that dont have any certifications, even those with that certification will tell you, a good instructor dosent always have to have that peice of paper!!!

You want to make soemthing of it, GOOD instructors or trainers, DONT down other instructors for one, they are hard on their students, they still ride and compete in what they are training their students, they have the knowlege/experience, they encourage and support their students, they are professional, and boy i could go on.

It is truly hialrious to see this happening.

Dippin' in the horse steroids they are.








I sound like Yoda.

Is the certified vs non-certified thing going to become a yearly or bi-yearly biotch session?? Maybe we need a poll.....

YUP you beat beat the snot of us. :lmao: :huggy:

:huggy: We need to teach that horse to do a turn on the haunches.

Did you find a ride to our chapter show? You can kick my butt there, I'm working out a plan to bring the new girl, since I told the chapter I could take her for the chapter challenge. :lmao:

If I can't figure out a way to trailer her and Peanut I could probably pick you up. How long is the drive to where your guy is?

i know people that have the big USDF certification,and they sure as heck dont down those that dont have any certifications, even those with that certification will tell you, a good instructor dosent always have to have that peice of paper!!!

You want to make soemthing of it, GOOD instructors or trainers, DONT down other instructors for one, they are hard on their students, they still ride and compete in what they are training their students, they have the knowlege/experience, they encourage and support their students, they are professional, and boy i could go on.

well said!

WD take that :smack: and that :smack: and that :buttkick: haha :duel: :bonk: you are :loser: :boxing: :razz:

well said!

WD take that :smack: and that :smack: and that :buttkick: haha :duel: :bonk: you are :loser: :boxing: :razz:


HAHAHAHA, I WISH I could post the WD MPD red karmas I just got, but 2 of them have words that would be bleeped out. (But, I actually KNOW how to work around that and "cuss" genius. So while I may be an f-ing psychotic biatch at least I'm not hiding it. :flowers: )

Oh and I'm honored that you've spent some much time looking at my ass. But, darling I'm not gay so point your attention else where.

And what shame that you can't send me more red until tomorrow. Shucks and darn!