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Dupontster
01-03-2008, 09:21 AM
Anyone know of any place around St Mary's that does small electronic soldering....I have a CDI box off my sons quad that has a small wire broken in to...There is only about 1/4" of the wire sticking out of the box to grab on to...The other wire is long enough to get stripped and soldered....Too much of a task for me and I don't have the right tools....I would replace it and I probably will have to but the damn thing is $400.00...Any help?

Lugnut
01-03-2008, 09:32 AM
Anyone know of any place around St Mary's that does small electronic soldering....I have a CDI box off my sons quad that has a small wire broken in to...There is only about 1/4" of the wire sticking out of the box to grab on to...The other wire is long enough to get stripped and soldered....Too much of a task for me and I don't have the right tools....I would replace it and I probably will have to but the damn thing is $400.00...Any help?

:shrug: I'll take a look at it if you like.

limblips
01-03-2008, 09:36 AM
Any hardawre store, get an el cheapo soldering kit and do it yourself. Soldering isn't black magic. Just make sure you use rosin core solder for electronics. Acid core is corrosive. Also pick up a selection of heat shrink tubing and use that to insulate the solder joint afterwards. Everybody should have a soldering iron!

desertrat
01-03-2008, 09:52 AM
Anyone know of any place around St Mary's that does small electronic soldering....I have a CDI box off my sons quad that has a small wire broken in to...There is only about 1/4" of the wire sticking out of the box to grab on to...The other wire is long enough to get stripped and soldered....Too much of a task for me and I don't have the right tools....I would replace it and I probably will have to but the damn thing is $400.00...Any help?

Where are you located? I would have a look at it. One recommendation, though, once you get it reconnected cover it up with a blob of epoxy or something to keep it from flexing and breaking off again closer down.

Airgasm
01-03-2008, 09:58 AM
Any idea on the gauge of the wire?

GWguy
01-03-2008, 10:19 AM
Sounds like a good idea for a gathering, a conference. Who's got the beer?

desertrat
01-03-2008, 10:29 AM
Any idea on the gauge of the wire?

Or what metal?

Sounds like a good idea for a gathering, a conference. Who's got the beer?

I have beer.

otter
01-03-2008, 10:51 AM
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Dupontster
01-03-2008, 11:47 AM
Thanks to all that replied...There are some catches to all of this...We need it before Sunday....We have a race on Sunday and need this bad....This is a miss we have had for a while and couldn't find it until last night...I have attached some pictures and drew a circle around the wire...It is the black & yellow wire....



:shrug: I'll take a look at it if you like.

When and where?

Any hardawre store, get an el cheapo soldering kit and do it yourself. Soldering isn't black magic. Just make sure you use rosin core solder for electronics. Acid core is corrosive. Also pick up a selection of heat shrink tubing and use that to insulate the solder joint afterwards. Everybody should have a soldering iron!

I have a soldering iron but this is something I want done right...The wire sticking out of the box is very small and only 1/4" long....Not much to grab on to...I'd rather not tackle it....


Where are you located? I would have a look at it. One recommendation, though, once you get it reconnected cover it up with a blob of epoxy or something to keep it from flexing and breaking off again closer down.

I am in the Leonardtown/Clements area but I can be anywhere if I can get it fixed...

Any idea on the gauge of the wire?

Not sure what size wire it is but it is about 1/16" OS....Very small..

Or what metal?
I have beer.

Not sure of that either...

desertrat
01-03-2008, 11:51 AM
Thanks to all that replied...There are some catches to all of this...We need it before Sunday....
I am in the Leonardtown/Clements area but I can be anywhere if I can get it fixed...

I was hoping you be on base and have it with you.

Dupontster
01-03-2008, 12:01 PM
I was hoping you be on base and have it with you.

I can be any where or drop it anywhere....I just checked with my supplier in Ohio and they won't replace it so if I don't get it fixed by tomorrow, I have to overnight one...:doh:

LordStanley
01-03-2008, 12:40 PM
I can be any where or drop it anywhere....I just checked with my supplier in Ohio and they won't replace it so if I don't get it fixed by tomorrow, I have to overnight one...:doh:

Is that box a sealed unit, or can you get to the wires on the inside?

desertrat
01-03-2008, 12:45 PM
I can be any where or drop it anywhere....I just checked with my supplier in Ohio and they won't replace it so if I don't get it fixed by tomorrow, I have to overnight one...:doh:

I pm'ed you.

Dupontster
01-03-2008, 12:50 PM
Is that box a sealed unit, or can you get to the wires on the inside?

Sealed....That's why I won't mess with it....Very short wire sticking out...Not much to grab on to...

Dupontster
01-03-2008, 12:55 PM
I pm'ed you.

Back at ya...

Lugnut
01-03-2008, 01:49 PM
Back at ya...

Just talked to DR, if he doesn't like the look of it I'll grab it and throw it (gently! :lol:) on the soldering station. :yay:

czygvtwkr
01-03-2008, 04:20 PM
I wouldnt solder it together, it will just break off again. I would use an "enviromental splice".

Dupontster
01-03-2008, 05:27 PM
I wouldnt solder it together, it will just break off again. I would use an "enviromental splice".

That also lets me out because I don't even know what an environmental splice is...:lmao: It really didn't break off. It was rubbed by the shrink wrap and broke in two. The wire didn't come out of the box. It broke off just above the box...

itsbob
01-03-2008, 05:31 PM
Anyone know of any place around St Mary's that does small electronic soldering....I have a CDI box off my sons quad that has a small wire broken in to...There is only about 1/4" of the wire sticking out of the box to grab on to...The other wire is long enough to get stripped and soldered....Too much of a task for me and I don't have the right tools....I would replace it and I probably will have to but the damn thing is $400.00...Any help?

Find any 10 year old that has done a 'mod' to his game system.. he'll be able to hook you up!!

LordStanley
01-03-2008, 05:39 PM
That also lets me out because I don't even know what an environmental splice is...:lmao: It really didn't break off. It was rubbed by the shrink wrap and broke in two. The wire didn't come out of the box. It broke off just above the box...

its the PC form of the Butt connector.:whistle:

Lugnut
01-03-2008, 05:45 PM
I wouldnt solder it together, it will just break off again. I would use an "enviromental splice".

I dunno, don't think my e-splice crimpers will fit in there.

Dupontster
01-03-2008, 06:07 PM
You all are starting to make me feel really stupid....:lmao:

clevalley
01-03-2008, 06:37 PM
Looks like you have some wear on the black w/ white as well...

I would use a thermal stripper on the broken wire and leave 1/16th of and inch near the CDI - and lay the conductors straight-on into each other with barely any to no twist (not enough to do) and then solder it... unfortunately, you only have one shot because of the length of the conductors to solder. Then use the epoxy filled heat shrink to environmentally seal it...

Not many options there!

Dupontster
01-03-2008, 06:39 PM
There is a little wear on the black & white one too...

clevalley
01-03-2008, 06:51 PM
There is a little wear on the black & white one too...

If all you are planning on doing is band-aiding for the race, just fix the one and get a new CDI.

I would cut all the suspect wires and splice them back with epoxy filled heat shrink and keep it as a spare. It is only a matter of time before that one rubs through as well!

Good luck to your son at the race! (I use to race 250 B up until I was 3o something :yay:) Is he District 7 or MAMA?

Dupontster
01-03-2008, 07:48 PM
If all you are planning on doing is band-aiding for the race, just fix the one and get a new CDI.

I would cut all the suspect wires and splice them back with epoxy filled heat shrink and keep it as a spare. It is only a matter of time before that one rubs through as well!

Good luck to your son at the race! (I use to race 250 B up until I was 3o something :yay:) Is he District 7 or MAMA?

I think the fix will be OK...Like I said, the covering around the bundle of wires is a little too long and it chafed and eventually cut the wire in two....I think I'll cut some of that covering off so it won't happen again....Thanks....He races D7..He's been doing real well....Won the championship in 06 in "C", stepped up to "B" in 07 and had a healthy lead in the points and had a freak accident in a practice and broke his leg...That took care of 07...Getting ready for "A" this year...Whole new ball game now....Ran 4 motos since the leg thing and got 2 firsts and 2 seconds equaling a 1st and 2nd overall for the 2 races....Still going to be an uphill battle with those "A" guys...:lmao:

clevalley
01-03-2008, 08:02 PM
I think the fix will be OK...Like I said, the covering around the bundle of wires is a little too long and it chafed and eventually cut the wire in two....I think I'll cut some of that covering off so it won't happen again....Thanks....He races D7..He's been doing real well....Won the championship in 06 in "C", stepped up to "B" in 07 and had a healthy lead in the points and had a freak accident in a practice and broke his leg...That took care of 07...Getting ready for "A" this year...Whole new ball game now....Ran 4 motos since the leg thing and got 2 firsts and 2 seconds equaling a 1st and 2nd overall for the 2 races....Still going to be an uphill battle with those "A" guys...:lmao:

Back in '02 I went down big-gulp (3 ' off the ground - sailed about 30') during practice - broke a front fork spring, front end compacted and never came up -I went over the handlebars :yikes:

I picked the bike up and went back to the pits - others helped me get the front forks un-stuck and up on the trailer... I drove home and unhitched the trailer in the garage...

I called my wife and she was working at a emergency health care place in Waldorf... she convinced me to drive up there. After a few x-rays and a ton of wound cleaning; I had a concussion, bruised sternum, lung, kidney and ribs!!! :lmao: I had no clue I was that messed up.

A few weeks later I was taking the front forks apart and my boy who was about 4 or 5 asked if I was going to race this weekend... I told him no. He said "good, I do not like to see you wreck and get hurt Daddy" - well, that was the end of that!

Now - this is the same kid who asked to race a few years later! I have diverted him!! But we both ride ATV's and love it!

Sorry to hi-jack the thread, but good luck to the boy and hope the CDI gets repaired! I work in DC so in a pinch I could get it done for you as well!

desertrat
01-04-2008, 08:34 AM
Looks like you have some wear on the black w/ white as well...

I would use a thermal stripper on the broken wire and leave 1/16th of and inch near the CDI - and lay the conductors straight-on into each other with barely any to no twist (not enough to do) and then solder it... unfortunately, you only have one shot because of the length of the conductors to solder. Then use the epoxy filled heat shrink to environmentally seal it...

Not many options there!
No room for strippers on the bottom wire, didn't have epoxy filled heat shrink, but I did lay them straight on and used a double layer of heat shrink topped with silicon tape.

There is a little wear on the black & white one too...

You're good to go Dup. See you around 2? We can pm location etc. I put an insulating layer on the worn one too. That sure looked like a clean cut and it's hard to imagine heat shrike wearing through wire. The insulation maybe. Are you sure you don't have a saboteur lurking around?:lmao:

KingFish
01-04-2008, 11:32 AM
Looks like you have some wear on the black w/ white as well...

I would use a thermal stripper on the broken wire and leave 1/16th of and inch near the CDI - and lay the conductors straight-on into each other with barely any to no twist (not enough to do) and then solder it... unfortunately, you only have one shot because of the length of the conductors to solder. Then use the epoxy filled heat shrink to environmentally seal it...

Not many options there!

I agree totally. That is how I would do it.

clevalley
01-04-2008, 09:43 PM
No room for strippers on the bottom wire, didn't have epoxy filled heat shrink, but I did lay them straight on and used a double layer of heat shrink topped with silicon tape.



You're good to go Dup. See you around 2? We can pm location etc. I put an insulating layer on the worn one too. That sure looked like a clean cut and it's hard to imagine heat shrike wearing through wire. The insulation maybe. Are you sure you don't have a saboteur lurking around?:lmao:

None @ NAVAIR??? :jameo: How do them planes stay together? :lmao:

You need to get in with the R&D Navy Space - we gots REALLY cool toys! :lol::

Glad to hear you got it fixed!!! That was a tough job!

Now we need to hear how the race went, plus you should get a cut of the purse! :killingme

BS Gal
01-04-2008, 09:50 PM
None @ NAVAIR??? :jameo: How do them planes stay together? :lmao:

You need to get in with the R&D Navy Space - we gots REALLY cool toys! :lol::

Glad to hear you got it fixed!!! That was a tough job!

Now we need to hear how the race went, plus you should get a cut of the purse! :killingme

Perhaps we should come to the race???? When is it?


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