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Floyd2004
05-27-2008, 12:39 PM
Anyone know some good software for a server box?
I would like FTP and or web access to it.

Does anyone know of some good FREE programs to let me do this?

Kain99
05-27-2008, 12:44 PM
But... Free is free!

Download or Order Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 Enterprise Edition for Free (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/virtualserver/software/default.mspx)

stopurwhining
05-27-2008, 01:11 PM
But... Free is free!

Download or Order Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 Enterprise Edition for Free (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/virtualserver/software/default.mspx)

nothing like a free product that works

awpitt
05-27-2008, 02:38 PM
nothing like a free product that worksIt's not exactly free because you must have Server 03.

Floyd2004
05-27-2008, 03:56 PM
It's not exactly free because you must have Server 03.

Yea I was going to say. That link is a free add-on to Server 03 kinda thing.
And no way and I spending the cash to get server 03 on this box.

I thought there were alot of free software like this but I guess im wrong. Ive looked around a bit myself and havent found much.

TWL
05-27-2008, 04:11 PM
It's not exactly free because you must have Server 03.
did you look at the system requirements? but still floyd would need to get an OS to run in virtual server....ahh! Linux will run in virtual server!

CAE
05-27-2008, 04:57 PM
Anyone know some good software for a server box?
I would like FTP and or web access to it.

Does anyone know of some good FREE programs to let me do this?

Load CentOS or Fedora on the machine... all the server tools you want. Not a penny to spend!

Floyd2004
05-28-2008, 08:21 AM
Blah I was really hoping not to go with Linux to keep this free.
I tryed it once and was disgusted with how nothing seemed to want to work right.

I looked some more last night and couldnt find anything. Looks like I might have to borrow some more windows software...

clevalley
05-28-2008, 09:29 AM
Anyone know some good software for a server box?
I would like FTP and or web access to it.

Does anyone know of some good FREE programs to let me do this?

Outside of Linux or Solaris there is not a lot of options - but honestly, Redhat Fedora core or SuSe Linux are really easy to configure for a web or ftp server - the administrative gui's make command line administration almost non-existent. If you need to do something at the command line - just Google it.

But... Free is free!

Download or Order Virtual Server 2005 R2 SP1 Enterprise Edition for Free (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/virtualserver/software/default.mspx)

Virtual Server is an application which provides "containers" that allow you to load other O/S's into them to emulate another machine - thus a virtual server...

For example, you have one computer running Windows 2003 or 2008 Server and load the Virtual Server package. You create empty containers and load windows into those. You boot the computer and after you login, you can launch these virtual servers to run multiple computers on one box...

For future reference fellow geekies - we have played with most of them out there and we have been testing with Virtual Box (http://www.virtualbox.org/) - it is really slick.

VmWare Server is still the choice for me - and you can get a free version. :yay:

Floyd2004
05-28-2008, 01:11 PM
Blah, I might have to grab that again though. Ive installed and used redhat and I also have a copy of ubuntu in my desk also. Im not saying its bad stuff. Just very awkward to someone that grew up on Windows.

Stupid Root...:lmao:

CAE
05-28-2008, 03:27 PM
Yes... it's a new world, but worth it IMHO.

Depeding on how long ago you tried it, things have improved (in the last 2 or 3 years). The new releases are more friendly and tend to recognize all but the most esoteric hardware.

Ubuntu makes a good desktop, but stick with CentOS or Fedora for a server. SuSE is nice, but takes a little more thought!

If you want to make your life easier, get Webmin (Webmin (http://www.webmin.com)) and put that on your favorite Linux server... then you can do lots of stuff by pointing and clicking from a web browser!

Floyd2004
05-29-2008, 08:37 AM
Yea I tryed it out a few years ago and didnt get too far with it all even with a manual trying to walk through how to set everything up. I was so confused I just gave up and reloaded Windows.

I might grab an old 40gig and try to put fedora on there and see if I can set it up again. Im going to search a little but would you happen to have a site that could walk me through setting up my box?

Also do you know if Fedora supports SLI or will I have to remove a graphics card for it to work?

Nitro
05-30-2008, 11:46 AM
I really like Windows Home Server

Floyd2004
05-30-2008, 06:57 PM
Well im downloading Fedora... I didnt think the file was this large before! Of course when I tried it last time it was on like rev 4 and now its on rev 9
Almost a 4gig file for install.

clevalley
05-30-2008, 10:53 PM
Well im downloading Fedora... I didnt think the file was this large before! Of course when I tried it last time it was on like rev 4 and now its on rev 9
Almost a 4gig file for install.

Fedora Core is really slick - if you pick the package you want to install (Web Server and FTP Server) it will put in all the "stuff" you need. I also install all the Admin GUI tools - makes it easier...

I know Solaris, but Linux has enough of a twist that just 'effs me up! :lol:

Floyd2004
05-31-2008, 06:35 PM
Ok I got it burned installed and now my windows dumbass cant get past the login. Its a text screen like DOS and it asks for a login and password.

Ive typed in just about everything ive found on the net about it (not a whole lot) and im getting frustrated because I cant even get past a simple login.

If someone knows how to get past this devilish device PLEASE let me know before I put XP back on it out of frustration.

Floyd2004
05-31-2008, 07:49 PM
Ok ive given up on the thing. Even looking at sites that try to "help" you set it up are doing nothing more than giving me outdated help that doesn't cover anything that im seeing on my screen. Open source blows as far as im concerned.

clevalley
06-01-2008, 08:56 PM
Ok I got it burned installed and now my windows dumbass cant get past the login. Its a text screen like DOS and it asks for a login and password.

Ive typed in just about everything ive found on the net about it (not a whole lot) and im getting frustrated because I cant even get past a simple login.

If someone knows how to get past this devilish device PLEASE let me know before I put XP back on it out of frustration.

Sorry - been away from the keyboard this weekend...

Did you set any passwords when you installed? Root is the default account installed... unless it asks you something like "who is going to use this computer" - I just cannot remember from a Fedora Core load...

At a minimum - 'root' is on there - try with no password, but it should have asked you southing on installation about a root account password. :confused:

RadioPatrol
06-01-2008, 08:59 PM
Anyone know some good software for a server box?
I would like FTP and or web access to it.

Does anyone know of some good FREE programs to let me do this?



Ubuntu LTS Server ....

RadioPatrol
06-01-2008, 09:00 PM
It's not exactly free because you must have Server 03.



You can get VPC that runs on XP for Free as well

RadioPatrol
06-01-2008, 09:02 PM
Blah, I might have to grab that again though. Ive installed and used redhat and I also have a copy of ubuntu in my desk also. Im not saying its bad stuff. Just very awkward to someone that grew up on Windows.

Stupid Root...:lmao:



I successfully set up a Ubuntu LAMP Server ..... get the basic config done, then install Webmin ....

RadioPatrol
06-01-2008, 09:03 PM
Fedora Core is really slick - if you pick the package you want to install (Web Server and FTP Server) it will put in all the "stuff" you need. I also install all the Admin GUI tools - makes it easier...

I know Solaris, but Linux has enough of a twist that just 'effs me up! :lol:

Ubuntu ... aptget from the command line ... :gossip:

Floyd2004
06-02-2008, 03:10 PM
The only thing it asked for durring the install was the root password. When at the login I put Root for the login and then my password and it didnt work.

Well I shouldnt say it didnt work. I put in Root as the login and my password that i typed durring install then it dropped down to another login. Nothing is GUI. Everything is text. I tried doing the visual install of Fedora and my monitor went blank and said "input out of limit"

I might try Ubuntu tonight.

Can I use any Linux install to run these free servers?
When it comes to Linux im about as retarded as it gets. I mean c'mon I cant even login.

Floyd2004
06-02-2008, 03:11 PM
Ubuntu LTS Server ....

You must have missed my "I cant login to Linux" post.

Im stuck at this friggin command prompt of a login and cant get any ferther.

RadioPatrol
06-02-2008, 07:17 PM
You must have missed my "I cant login to Linux" post.

Im stuck at this friggin command prompt of a login and cant get any ferther.


did you leave it blank ?

Floyd2004
06-03-2008, 10:06 AM
did you leave it blank ?

The only thing that I inputed at install was the root password.
Once at the login prompt I put root,my password and it wouldnt login. I tried about 10 different login suggestions that I found on the net and nothing worked. I downloaded Ubuntu last night so im giving that a whirl tonight.

Floyd2004
06-03-2008, 02:42 PM
Ok im dropping Linux for a Windows version... Thanks

RadioPatrol
06-03-2008, 03:33 PM
Ok im dropping Linux for a Windows version... Thanks

Which Windows Server Ver ? ... you can get FTP Software without running "server" OS

clevalley
06-03-2008, 09:14 PM
The only thing that I inputed at install was the root password.
Once at the login prompt I put root,my password and it wouldnt login. I tried about 10 different login suggestions that I found on the net and nothing worked. I downloaded Ubuntu last night so im giving that a whirl tonight.

Ok im dropping Linux for a Windows version... Thanks

Damn Floyd - you are having bad luck all around...

Did you do any type of package customization? Regardless, this install sounds like it screwed the pooch and I feel bad it did not work for you... Normally I just follow default workstation installation and add in whatever servers I want (web, ftp, etc...) and it just works.

Your problem is very odd and without seeing the installation not much I can say to try...

Floyd2004
06-04-2008, 08:19 AM
Damn Floyd - you are having bad luck all around...

Did you do any type of package customization? Regardless, this install sounds like it screwed the pooch and I feel bad it did not work for you... Normally I just follow default workstation installation and add in whatever servers I want (web, ftp, etc...) and it just works.

Your problem is very odd and without seeing the installation not much I can say to try...

Yea Linux bones me everytime I give it a try. I think thats the reason I dont even like it.

RadioPatrol
06-04-2008, 08:53 AM
Yea Linux bones me everytime I give it a try. I think thats the reason I dont even like it.



hey I started Macs back in 1988 .... windows was trash for along time, but now I am with the dark side, just to make a living ..... it took me a few tries until I got a workable Linux Box ...........

Floyd2004
06-04-2008, 12:12 PM
Yea I started on old Apples and whatnot. You remember the Turbo button? :razz:

Yea im installing windows tonight if I can find my CD.

RadioPatrol
06-05-2008, 07:05 AM
Yea I started on old Apples and what not. You remember the Turbo button? :razz:

Yea I'm installing windows tonight if I can find my CD.



yeah on 386's, and 486's .....

separate Math Co Proc's 387's ... :whistle:

Little White Compact Macs .... w/ a 9" Screen and 1 Mb of RAM


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