View Full Version : If a NEW waterfront restaurant opened...
remaxrealtor
08-25-2008, 04:59 PM
What would be MUST HAVE menu items?:whistle:
morningbell
08-25-2008, 05:00 PM
What would be MUST HAVE menu items?:whistle:
Raw and living foods.
Mousebaby
08-25-2008, 05:02 PM
Stuffed mushrooms like the Olive Garden, or close to them. :drool:
remaxrealtor
08-25-2008, 05:02 PM
Raw and living foods.
Like maybe an oyster bar?
vraiblonde
08-25-2008, 05:03 PM
Well, seafood obviously.
I'd like to see some interesting appetizers. I'm sick of chicken wings, cheese sticks and mini burgers.
Good beer on tap.
jp2854
08-25-2008, 05:04 PM
a few non-seafood options for people who don't eat seafood due to being allergic. If it were me i would also have some icecream with like a brownie or something like that for dessert during the summer months as its hot and people are always in for a nice cold dessert.
Mousebaby
08-25-2008, 05:04 PM
Like maybe an oyster bar?
Eeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwww :barf: I think I'm with Rose Red on this one, those are too much like loogy's!
toppick08
08-25-2008, 05:05 PM
Like maybe an oyster bar?
:drool:
and a true seafood platter like Evan's used to have.......:yay:
pcjohnnyb
08-25-2008, 05:06 PM
a few non-seafood options for people who don't eat seafood due to being allergic. If it were me i would also have some icecream with like a brownie or something like that for dessert during the summer months as its hot and people are always in for a nice cold dessert.
Here's the thing for me, on this input.
If you don't like seafood, or are allergic, why not eat somewhere else?
I'm just saying.
Same as the people who eat all American food at a chinese buffet. WTH :lmao:
remaxrealtor
08-25-2008, 05:07 PM
Well, seafood obviously.
I'd like to see some interesting appetizers. I'm sick of chicken wings, cheese sticks and mini burgers.
Good beer on tap.
GOOD point! What are your thoughts on local wines?
morningbell
08-25-2008, 05:09 PM
Like maybe an oyster bar?
No, not raw as in raw bar. Raw as in living foods (http://www.alissacohen.com/). I'm the only one that would eat there if that was the case. I was joking when I posted.
Lets think there are too many Chinese, Japanese, Mexican resturants in the area. We already have fine dining with Cafe Des Artiste, CD cafe, the Tides and Chef's Bistro, the seafood resturants are already spoken for..... There is an Indian restaurant coming.....
Personally when I go out to eat I look for local foods. Thats why I love Blue Wind Gourmet. They choose fresh local greens and veggies.
jp2854
08-25-2008, 05:09 PM
oh so you are singling out people who like to eat at nice resturants because they are allergic to seafood. Every resturant I went into that served seafood either had a fried chicken or a hamburger or something like that on there menu for the nonseafood eaters due to allergies. I don't go out by myself i go out with my family and 2 of them are seafood eaters and 2 are not that is the only reason i said it plus people have little kids who can't eat seafood too u going to tell the parents to go elsewhere when they want a nice dining?
Mousebaby
08-25-2008, 05:10 PM
Not wines, but it just hit me, a good salad bar with some really good, cold and different seafood salads or toppings.
morningbell
08-25-2008, 05:11 PM
GOOD point! What are your thoughts on local wines?
:barf:
If they were good wine then yes but Solomon's Winery I think is the one that likes to experiment and it doesn't always turn out so well.
vraiblonde
08-25-2008, 05:11 PM
GOOD point! What are your thoughts on local wines?
I don't drink wine, but Jazz and Dye could give you a good review.
Also, and this sounds like a no-brainer but you'd be surprised how often it's overlooked, a waterfront restaurant should have outdoor seating. Places like Naughty Gull that are right on the water, but you can't sit out there, are stupid.
toppick08
08-25-2008, 05:12 PM
What would be MUST HAVE menu items?:whistle:
Please build it at L'town Wharf...:flowers:, like the old days.
vraiblonde
08-25-2008, 05:14 PM
a good salad bar with some really good, cold and different seafood salads or toppings.
I vote NO on the salad bar. They're a PITA to keep up with and always look like crap, plus you have kids digging in it with their booger fingers.
Mousebaby
08-25-2008, 05:15 PM
I vote NO on the salad bar. They're a PITA to keep up with and always look like crap, plus you have kids digging in it with their booger fingers.
Eeeww I didn't think of that! How bout where you can order different types of cold seafood salads and they come fresh from the back?
pcjohnnyb
08-25-2008, 05:16 PM
oh so you are singling out people who like to eat at nice resturants because they are allergic to seafood. Every resturant I went into that served seafood either had a fried chicken or a hamburger or something like that on there menu for the nonseafood eaters due to allergies. I don't go out by myself i go out with my family and 2 of them are seafood eaters and 2 are not that is the only reason i said it plus people have little kids who can't eat seafood too u going to tell the parents to go elsewhere when they want a nice dining?
IMPO, I don't consider fried chicken or a hamburger to be fine dining, so why wouldn't you at least get it somewhere that they specialize in that and its affordable?
Again, thats JMO. Didn't mean to get you all offended :lmao:
Also, and this sounds like a no-brainer but you'd be surprised how often it's overlooked, a waterfront restaurant should have outdoor seating. Places like Naughty Gull that are right on the water, but you can't sit out there, are stupid.
Another good idea. Make sure there is something to keep the bugs away though for those days when flies or mosquitoes are rampant :yay:
Roxy1104
08-25-2008, 05:17 PM
I love seafood (hate fish, but love shellfish), but I would like to see chicken tenders because my son does not eat seafood or burgers. And I luvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv me some oysters!!! :razz: RoseRed! :howdy:
Dymphna
08-25-2008, 05:17 PM
GOOD point! What are your thoughts on local wines?
I've yet to taste a decent local wine :barf:
morningbell
08-25-2008, 05:18 PM
I've yet to taste a decent local wine :barf:
:yeahthat:
Exactly :yay:
toppick08
08-25-2008, 05:18 PM
I vote NO on the salad bar. They're a PITA to keep up with and always look like crap, plus you have kids digging in it with their booger fingers.
Vrai, if you're(y'all) are ever over in Cambridge....stop at their diner....:yay:
You would be amazed.
vraiblonde
08-25-2008, 05:20 PM
mAlice and I were on here awhile back designing our perfect restaurant. One of the few things we agreed on is that it would NOT be kid-friendly. Sorry all you Mommies and Daddies :lol: but I'm not paying $20 for a meal that I can't enjoy because your spawn is screaming or being annoying in some way.
toppick08
08-25-2008, 05:21 PM
I love seafood (hate fish, but love shellfish), but I would like to see chicken tenders because my son does not eat seafood or burgers. And I luvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv me some oysters!!! :razz: RoseRed! :howdy:
Scalded.......:yay:
remaxrealtor
08-25-2008, 05:21 PM
IMPO, I don't consider fried chicken or a hamburger to be fine dining, so why wouldn't you at least get it somewhere that they specialize in that and its affordable?
Again, thats JMO. Didn't mean to get you all offended :lmao:
Another good idea. Make sure there is something to keep the bugs away though for those days when flies or mosquitoes are rampant :yay:
How about a screened porch with a great view?
Dymphna
08-25-2008, 05:22 PM
Regarding wines, though...There are some very good wines from other parts of Maryland, namely Frederick, so you could still do Maryland wines w/o serving the local slop.
vraiblonde
08-25-2008, 05:23 PM
How about a screened porch with a great view?
Maybe something like (what's that place called in Hollywood that I can never remember?) where they have a screened porch AND outside seating?
remaxrealtor
08-25-2008, 05:24 PM
mAlice and I were on here awhile back designing our perfect restaurant. One of the few things we agreed on is that it would NOT be kid-friendly. Sorry all you Mommies and Daddies :lol: but I'm not paying $20 for a meal that I can't enjoy because your spawn is screaming or being annoying in some way.
I was thinking a wine/martini bar/cold beer type of place with a limited, FRESH menu and a great "small town" feeling...
Dymphna
08-25-2008, 05:24 PM
mAlice and I were on here awhile back designing our perfect restaurant. One of the few things we agreed on is that it would NOT be kid-friendly. Sorry all you Mommies and Daddies :lol: but I'm not paying $20 for a meal that I can't enjoy because your spawn is screaming or being annoying in some way.Fine, non-family dining IS a niche that is in need of filling around here.... unfortunately, you won't get my business for a few years. :ohwell:
morningbell
08-25-2008, 05:24 PM
How about a screened porch with a great view?
Even better to extend the season, outdoor heaters in the fall, mosquito propane repellers..... outdoor bar.
remaxrealtor
08-25-2008, 05:26 PM
Even better to extend the season, outdoor heaters in the fall, mosquito propane repellers..... outdoor bar.
How bout a screened fire pit? Serve gourmet smores out there?
desertrat
08-25-2008, 05:26 PM
I vote NO on the salad bar. They're a PITA to keep up with and always look like crap, plus you have kids digging in it with their booger fingers.
:killingme
mAlice and I were on here awhile back designing our perfect restaurant. One of the few things we agreed on is that it would NOT be kid-friendly. Sorry all you Mommies and Daddies :lol: but I'm not paying $20 for a meal that I can't enjoy because your spawn is screaming or being annoying in some way.
Separate sections would be good. Real separate. I'd like to see two things. Local fresh catch of the day dishes and not just fried or broiled. Number two bring in some good fresh non local stuff and mix it up. Make an effort. Get some big lobsters one week, some Mahi the next, tuna, salmon, Alaskan halibet, etc. I would happily pay $10 more more for something different and good.
Creme brulee and a really good chocolate mousse. How about a dessert sample plate? And wines to go along.
vraiblonde
08-25-2008, 05:31 PM
How bout a screened fire pit? Serve gourmet smores out there?
I love it!
morningbell
08-25-2008, 05:32 PM
Creme brulee and a really good chocolate mousse. How about a dessert sample plate? And wines to go along.
:howdy: Cafe Des Artise Creme Brulee (http://www.cafedesartistes.ws/dinnermenu.htm#desserts)
Dymphna
08-25-2008, 05:33 PM
I love it!I get it, you don't want the kids in there because you don't want them seeing you act like a kid. :yay:
morningbell
08-25-2008, 05:33 PM
How bout a screened fire pit? Serve gourmet smores out there?
I was thinking fire pit but I was also thinking about fire codes and maintinence, propane would be much cleaner. The gourmet smores would be a good idea but.....
GWguy
08-25-2008, 06:07 PM
Maybe something like (what's that place called in Hollywood that I can never remember?) where they have a screened porch AND outside seating?
Clarks Landing?
Have to agree on the kid-friendly comment. I really disliked going to Nicoletties (sp?) and have kids yelling and running uncontrolled up and down the aisles.
If there is an outside seating, I like it to be dressed up, landscaped a bit. Clarks Landing has a great view, but sitting on a cement slab in plastic chairs that I wouldn't use in my own yard really detracts from the "atmosphere".
Maybe some good soups for the starter course, something different than Maryland Crab. Like a good onion soup. I have yet to find a decent onion soup down here.
toppick08
08-25-2008, 06:10 PM
Clarks Landing?
Have to agree on the kid-friendly comment. I really disliked going to Nicoletties (sp?) and have kids yelling and running uncontrolled up and down the aisles.
If there is an outside seating, I like it to be dressed up, landscaped a bit. Clarks Landing has a great view, but sitting on a cement slab in plastic chairs that I wouldn't use in my own yard really detracts from the "atmosphere".
Maybe some good soups for the starter course, something different than Maryland Crab. Like a good onion soup. I have yet to find a decent onion soup down here.
The Roost used to have the best.........:ohwell:
Mousebaby
08-25-2008, 06:11 PM
Clarks Landing?
Have to agree on the kid-friendly comment. I really disliked going to Nicoletties (sp?) and have kids yelling and running uncontrolled up and down the aisles.
If there is an outside seating, I like it to be dressed up, landscaped a bit. Clarks Landing has a great view, but sitting on a cement slab in plastic chairs that I wouldn't use in my own yard really detracts from the "atmosphere".
Maybe some good soups for the starter course, something different than Maryland Crab. Like a good onion soup. I have yet to find a decent onion soup down here.
Have to agree with that too, if I wanted to hear all that nonsense I would stay home and eat. :shrug:
GWguy
08-25-2008, 06:12 PM
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The Roost used to have the best.........:ohwell:
Eh... I've had theirs. Mines better.
toppick08
08-25-2008, 06:17 PM
Eh... I've had theirs. Mines better.
10-4.........homeade usually is.:yay:
justme83
08-25-2008, 06:17 PM
Calamari is a must have...and real calamari not just the rings
Roxy1104
08-25-2008, 06:21 PM
Calamari is a must have...and real calamari not just the rings
A seafood bar. This place in DC (can't remember the name) had the best da-gone seafood bar ever. When I worked for a company there, one of the Italian Stallion hot shot builders took me and a few other employees there for an early dinner. It was hittin! I musta had about 20 oyster shooters, among other things. And their seafood chowder was to die for. Wish I could remember the name of that place. The bill for the 4 of us was over $500 - but Vince paid the bill - our Christmas treat!
morningbell
08-25-2008, 06:21 PM
Clarks Landing?
Have to agree on the kid-friendly comment. I really disliked going to Nicoletties (sp?) and have kids yelling and running uncontrolled up and down the aisles.
If there is an outside seating, I like it to be dressed up, landscaped a bit. Clarks Landing has a great view, but sitting on a cement slab in plastic chairs that I wouldn't use in my own yard really detracts from the "atmosphere".
Maybe some good soups for the starter course, something different than Maryland Crab. Like a good onion soup. I have yet to find a decent onion soup down here.
Once again, :howdy: Cafe Des Artiste (http://www.cafedesartistes.ws/dinnermenu.htm)
morningbell
08-25-2008, 06:23 PM
Have to agree with that too, if I wanted to hear all that nonsense I would stay home and eat. :shrug:
Its a pizza place and sponsers soccer teams, what do you expect?
GWguy
08-25-2008, 06:23 PM
Once again, :howdy: Cafe Des Artiste (http://www.cafedesartistes.ws/dinnermenu.htm)
:lmao: Maybe! I've never even been in there to try it! Guess I need to put that on the list...
jazz lady
08-25-2008, 06:28 PM
What are your thoughts on local wines?
They pretty much suck. :lol:
I don't drink wine, but Jazz and Dye could give you a good review.
TY. :smooch:
Regarding wines, though...There are some very good wines from other parts of Maryland, namely Frederick, so you could still do Maryland wines w/o serving the local slop.
I have to agree with Dymphna. The only Maryland winery I really like is Linganore Cellars/Berrywine Plantation outside of Frederick.
I have had some from Friday's Creek and Cove Point Winery which were okay but a bit overpriced. The only thing I've found at Solomon's Winery that I liked and actually BOUGHT is the limited edition Chocolate Raspberry Port. The rest pretty much is crap IMHO.
I would shoot more for a focus on regional wines for the Middle Atlantic region. Virginia has some pretty good wineries as does Pennsylvania, West Virginia and North Carolina.
GWguy
08-25-2008, 06:29 PM
Ok, here's an idea... post a link to a menu of a restaurant that you like, even better if it's not local. Might be good for ideas. Here's a place I frequent on Long Island.
Lobsterroll.com (http://www.lobsterroll.com/menus/northsidemenu.html)
Roxy1104
08-25-2008, 06:29 PM
:lmao: Maybe! I've never even been in there to try it! Guess I need to put that on the list...
Ditto on that! I got a $50 gift certificate for the Cafe and have never used it. Guess it's about time I go!
toppick08
08-25-2008, 06:31 PM
Great fried catfish and crappie would also be on the menu...:yay:
Mousebaby
08-25-2008, 06:32 PM
Real seafood gumbo and crawfish. You know Louisiana style!
GWguy
08-25-2008, 06:32 PM
They pretty much suck. :lol:
TY. :smooch:
I have to agree with Dymphna. The only Maryland winery I really like is Linganore Cellars/Berrywine Plantation outside of Frederick.
I have had some from Friday's Creek and Cove Point Winery which were okay but a bit overpriced. The only thing I've found at Solomon's Winery that I liked and actually BOUGHT is the limited edition Chocolate Raspberry Port. The rest pretty much is crap IMHO.
I would shoot more for a focus on regional wines for the Middle Atlantic region. Virginia has some pretty good wineries as does Pennsylvania, West Virginia and North Carolina.
The vineyards on Long Island are producing some wonderful wines. Pelligrini has a great Chardonnay.
Long Island Wine Country (http://www.liwines.com/default.ihtml?page=vineyards)
RPMDAD
08-25-2008, 06:34 PM
Like maybe an oyster bar?
:drool:
and a true seafood platter like Evan's used to have.......:yay:
ditto on the true seafood platter broiled or fried haven't seen a good on in a long time, goood steaks for the non seafood eaters. The only problem i see with going with a kid unfriendly type restaurant is you are limiting your clientele ??? not sure how to spell that one. And when times get tight money wise and people are cutting back on eating out you have essentially eliminated some paying customers....
Roxy1104
08-25-2008, 06:34 PM
Great fried catfish and crappie would also be on the menu...:yay:
What the heck is crappie?
toppick08
08-25-2008, 06:38 PM
What the heck is crappie?
:rolleyes:
jazz lady
08-25-2008, 06:39 PM
Separate sections would be good. Real separate.
Amen! :high5:
I'd like to see two things. Local fresh catch of the day dishes and not just fried or broiled. Number two bring in some good fresh non local stuff and mix it up. Make an effort. Get some big lobsters one week, some Mahi the next, tuna, salmon, Alaskan halibut, etc. I would happily pay $10 more more for something different and good.
:yeahthat: Local seafood but with a twist and something other than breaded and fried. And definitely serve seafood we don't usually get around here like Dungeness crab and fish like sea bass and monkfish. I would die for a good Cioppino (fish stew) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cioppino) around here. :yum:
toppick08
08-25-2008, 06:40 PM
I've yet to taste a decent local wine :barf:
Can't grow no grape in a 'bacca field........:duh:
toppick08
08-25-2008, 06:41 PM
Amen! :high5:
:yeahthat: Local seafood but with a twist and something other than breaded and fried. And definitely serve seafood we don't usually get around here like Dungeness crab and fish like sea bass and monkfish. I would die for a good Cioppino (fish stew) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cioppino) around here. :yum:
Redfish.......:drool:
and the sweetest fish........bluegill.
Dye Tied
08-25-2008, 06:44 PM
I don't drink wine, but Jazz and Dye could give you a good review.
Thank you. I do love wine tasting.
I've yet to taste a decent local wine :barf:
Try Running Hare in Prince Frederick and let me know what you think. I enjoyed their wines very much.
jazz lady
08-25-2008, 06:45 PM
The vineyards on Long Island are producing some wonderful wines. Pelligrini has a great Chardonnay.
Long Island Wine Country (http://www.liwines.com/default.ihtml?page=vineyards)
:yay: I've had that wine and it's pretty good - they also have a nice Cabernet Franc. Long Island has a very unique climate that makes it excellent for growing grapes. I'll have to try more from there. :cheers:
jazz lady
08-25-2008, 06:47 PM
Thank you. I do love wine tasting.
So do I, especially at $26 a teeny-tiny glass. :jet: :roflmao: :smoochy:
GWguy
08-25-2008, 06:48 PM
:yay: I've had that wine and it's pretty good - they also have a nice Cabernet Franc. Long Island has a very unique climate that makes it excellent for growing grapes. I'll have to try more from there. :cheers:
I'll sample it for ya next time I'm up there... :biggrin:
Dinner Menu at Lattitudes at Lover's Point Restaurant for Ocean View Dining in Pacific Grove near Monterey (http://www.lattitudesatloverspoint.com/menudinner.htm)
I really miss aioli, remoulade and the like at restaurants here. Guess I'm a dipper.
Dye Tied
08-25-2008, 07:02 PM
I'll sample it for ya next time I'm up there... :biggrin:
Better yet, bring back some bottles and have a tasting :otter: :lol:
So do I, especially at $26 a teeny-tiny glass. :jet: :roflmao: :smoochy:
I never would have noticed... :buddies:
kwillia
08-25-2008, 07:04 PM
So do I, especially at $26 a teeny-tiny glass. :jet: :roflmao: :smoochy:
On the same subject... VJ just increased the price of a bottle of Boone's farm to $3.99...:shocking:
toppick08
08-25-2008, 07:08 PM
On the same subject... VJ just increased the price of a bottle of Boone's farm to $3.99...:shocking:
:lol:
remaxrealtor
08-25-2008, 07:09 PM
Amen! :high5:
:yeahthat: Local seafood but with a twist and something other than breaded and fried. And definitely serve seafood we don't usually get around here like Dungeness crab and fish like sea bass and monkfish. I would die for a good Cioppino (fish stew) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cioppino) around here. :yum:
Hey Jazz....let's say I knew of a place opening....any chance you'd like to help choose a wine list?:smoochy:
GopherM
08-25-2008, 07:13 PM
Thank you. I do love wine tasting.
Try Running Hare in Prince Frederick and let me know what you think. I enjoyed their wines very much.
I think it's very strange that they are bringing Malbec juice to the states from Argentina and then aging and bottling it here. Argentina makes it great to start with. What is the advantage of going to all that trouble?
Roxy1104
08-25-2008, 07:16 PM
:rolleyes:
Don't roll your eyes at me. What the heck is crappie? No kiddin.
cattitude
08-25-2008, 07:16 PM
Try Running Hare in Prince Frederick and let me know what you think. I enjoyed their wines very much.
:yay:
Roxy1104
08-25-2008, 07:18 PM
Redfish.......:drool:
and the sweetest fish........bluegill.
I do have to admit I love crab stuffed rock fish!
Dye Tied
08-25-2008, 07:18 PM
I think it's very strange that they are bringing Malbec juice to the states from Argentina and then aging and bottling it here. Argentina makes it great to start with. What is the advantage of going to all that trouble?
They aren't the only winery that uses juice from other sources. I did not ask if they had those grapes planted in their vineyard, but they do need more heat and sun than some of the other grapes.
I did see lots of vines and some very new, so time will tell what happens at the new winery. :otter:
Baja28
08-25-2008, 07:22 PM
I'd like to see some interesting appetizers. I'm sick of chicken wings, cheese sticks and mini burgers.
Good beer on tap.Microbrews!! Not domestics!!
I have to agree with Dymphna. The only Maryland winery I really like is Linganore Cellars/Berrywine Plantation outside of Frederick.
I have had some from Friday's Creek and Cove Point Winery which were okay but a bit overpriced. The only thing I've found at Solomon's Winery that I liked and actually BOUGHT is the limited edition Chocolate Raspberry Port. The rest pretty much is crap IMHO.
I would shoot more for a focus on regional wines for the Middle Atlantic region. Virginia has some pretty good wineries as does Pennsylvania, West Virginia and North Carolina.:yeahthat: Linganore is awesome as is Chrysallis in Middleburg, VA.
What would be MUST HAVE menu items?:whistle::howdy:
Two "must haves" (I know it doesn't answer your question, but I like so many foods):
1. Consistently delicious food, regardless of what you offer
2. Excellent customer service
The restaurant business must be one of the most difficult businesses to run, in that you can't make everyone happy all of the time. Offering a few menu items VERY well, to me, is better than offering a lot of things sort of mediocre (I know you both know this, though!).
All of the niceties such as location, "feel" of the place, convenience, etc. are secondary to consistent quality.
Sounds like it is coming along, best of luck with it. :yay:
RoseRed
08-25-2008, 07:25 PM
Did anyone mention the Black Diamond Steak? :drool:
Baja28
08-25-2008, 07:25 PM
Don't roll your eyes at me. What the heck is crappie? No kiddin.Crappie is a freshwater pond fish with EXCELLENT white, flaky meat.
Bird Dog
08-25-2008, 07:25 PM
What would be MUST HAVE menu items?:whistle:
First, only fresh no seafood ever frozen.
Second, seasonal. We have a great local seafood selection but crabs do not shed in January and our local oysters are not harvested for good reason in August. There are other areas that have good oysters in August though
These suggestions are only seafood. You should also have meat and vegetable courses also
Appetizers: Clams on the half shell
Oysters on the half shell..winter or when available from other areas
Chowders, seafood, clam, oyster etc.
Seafood salad, fresh crab, mussels, shrimp etc.
Tuna sashimi or other tuna done rare/raw dishes
Crab Soup both traditional Maryland, Cream of Crab or ShCrab
Entres: Rockfish done any of a dozen ways. Fresh Only
Shad in the spring and also shad roe
Perch, just fried.
Crab cakes. Two types. Cheap and Backfin, give people a choice.
Fresh fish from other areas. Dolphin/Mahi Mahi only fresh also like rockfish can be cooked a dozen ways.
Fried oysters
Seafood assortment, again only fresh and local broiled or fried
Soft Crabs in season.
I think you get my drift.
If you are thinking about opening one up let me know.
Dye Tied
08-25-2008, 07:26 PM
They pretty much suck. :lol:
TY. :smooch:
I have had some from Friday's Creek and Cove Point Winery which were okay but a bit overpriced. The only thing I've found at Solomon's Winery that I liked and actually BOUGHT is the limited edition Chocolate Raspberry Port. The rest pretty much is crap IMHO.
I would shoot more for a focus on regional wines for the Middle Atlantic region. Virginia has some pretty good wineries as does Pennsylvania, West Virginia and North Carolina.
I have done some tastings in N.C. and was impressed. I still have a 2004 Chardonnay from a trip. It's from Round Peak in the Yadkin Valley and was delicious. I'll have to open it soon!
remaxrealtor
08-25-2008, 07:26 PM
Did anyone mention the Black Diamond Steak? :drool:
That's a no-brainer!
cashncarry
08-25-2008, 07:28 PM
Don't roll your eyes at me. What the heck is crappie? No kiddin. They're just little fish in the Sun Fish family. Small, sweet, and not fishy smelling or tasting. Very nice.
Dye Tied
08-25-2008, 07:28 PM
:howdy:
Two "must haves" (I know it doesn't answer your question, but I like so many foods):
1. Consistently delicious food, regardless of what you offer
2. Excellent customer service
The restaurant business must be one of the most difficult businesses to run, in that you can't make everyone happy all of the time. Offering a few menu items VERY well, to me, is better than offering a lot of things sort of mediocre (I know you both know this, though!).
All of the niceties such as location, "feel" of the place, convenience, etc. are secondary to consistent quality.
Sounds like it is coming along, best of luck with it. :yay:
After the customer service we received this weekend at Fogo De Chao, I would certainly appreciate it locally. Good luck on that one. :lol:
RoseRed
08-25-2008, 07:28 PM
That's a no-brainer!
Then why isn't it on the menu now? :neener:
remaxrealtor
08-25-2008, 07:31 PM
First, only fresh no seafood ever frozen.
Second, seasonal. We have a great local seafood selection but crabs do not shed in January and our local oysters are not harvested for good reason in August. There are other areas that have good oysters in August though
These suggestions are only seafood. You should also have meat and vegetable courses also
Appetizers: Clams on the half shell
Oysters on the half shell..winter or when available from other areas
Chowders, seafood, clam, oyster etc.
Seafood salad, fresh crab, mussels, shrimp etc.
Tuna sashimi or other tuna done rare/raw dishes
Crab Soup both traditional Maryland, Cream of Crab or ShCrab
Entres: Rockfish done any of a dozen ways. Fresh Only
Shad in the spring and also shad roe
Perch, just fried.
Crab cakes. Two types. Cheap and Backfin, give people a choice.
Fresh fish from other areas. Dolphin/Mahi Mahi only fresh also like rockfish can be cooked a dozen ways.
Fried oysters
Seafood assortment, again only fresh and local broiled or fried
Soft Crabs in season.
I think you get my drift.
If you are thinking about opening one up let me know.
We had an oyster feast at Oakwood that was awesome, scalded, cornmeal fried, oysters oregano, rockefeller and cajun...roasted corn chowder topped with different seafood options, I LOVE the idea of two different crab cakes! Black Diamond and Prime Rib....a local guy to supply FRESH rockfish...:drool:
remaxrealtor
08-25-2008, 07:33 PM
Then why isn't it on the menu now? :neener:
YOU HAVE TO ASK THE SERVER....THEY'RE THERE!!!:yahoo:Took a lot of "negotiating"!
RoseRed
08-25-2008, 07:34 PM
YOU HAVE TO ASK THE SERVER....THEY'RE THERE!!!:yahoo:Took a lot of "negotiating"!
I HAVE!!! They always said no. I'll have to come back again soon. :yay:
Roxy1104
08-25-2008, 07:35 PM
We had an oyster feast at Oakwood that was awesome, scalded, cornmeal fried, oysters oregano, rockefeller and cajun...roasted corn chowder topped with different seafood options, I LOVE the idea of two different crab cakes! Black Diamond and Prime Rib....a local guy to supply FRESH rockfish...:drool:
So when are we goin out to eat? :killingme
jazz lady
08-25-2008, 07:36 PM
Better yet, bring back some bottles and have a tasting :otter: :lol:
:yeahthat:
I never would have noticed... :buddies:
:huggy: Well, I sure did. :faint:
On the same subject... VJ just increased the price of a bottle of Boone's farm to $3.99...:shocking:
:mad: Bastages. What next? I'll bet they replace the fancy screw top with a pop top. :burning:
jazz lady
08-25-2008, 07:38 PM
Hey Jazz....let's say I knew of a place opening....any chance you'd like to help choose a wine list?:smoochy:
I would, as I'm sure my fellow winos also, be most honored to help. :huggy:
remaxrealtor
08-25-2008, 07:43 PM
I would, as I'm sure my fellow winos also, be most honored to help. :huggy:
How about a tasting party? I'm sure I could get the wine rep to do it at Rick's!
jazz lady
08-25-2008, 07:49 PM
They aren't the only winery that uses juice from other sources. I did not ask if they had those grapes planted in their vineyard, but they do need more heat and sun than some of the other grapes.
I did see lots of vines and some very new, so time will tell what happens at the new winery. :otter:
Most wineries start out with buying most of their grapes from other sources until their vines mature and produce, which is normally 3 to 5 years or more. Even then, they'll import ones they can't grow in the area to make their own special blends. I know muscadines do not grow this far north but some of the Middle Atlantic wineries use them.
jazz lady
08-25-2008, 07:50 PM
How about a tasting party? I'm sure I could get the wine rep to do it at Rick's!
I'm there. :yay:
remaxrealtor
08-25-2008, 07:59 PM
I'm there. :yay:
:getdown:
belvak
08-25-2008, 08:35 PM
Didn't read all the posts, but my "must have" would be fresh gulf shrimp. I don't think any place around here uses fresh, they're all frozen. :ohwell: At least, I haven't found any yet. Not like they have in South Carolina, anyway!!
Dymphna
08-25-2008, 09:12 PM
I have to agree with Dymphna. The only Maryland winery I really like is Linganore Cellars/Berrywine Plantation outside of Frederick.
I have had some from Friday's Creek and Cove Point Winery which were okay but a bit overpriced. The only thing I've found at Solomon's Winery that I liked and actually BOUGHT is the limited edition Chocolate Raspberry Port. The rest pretty much is crap IMHO.
I would shoot more for a focus on regional wines for the Middle Atlantic region. Virginia has some pretty good wineries as does Pennsylvania, West Virginia and North Carolina.
Boordy Vineyards in Frederick has some nice wines too. But speaking of Pennsylvania wines, when huntr lived up near York, PA we used to buy wine from a place up there called Naylor. There was some issue with them being able to ship to Maryland however and you couldn't buy it on this side of the line, even though the actual winery was only 5 or 6 miles from Maryland.
Dang it, I asked Huntr what the name of that winery was and he looked it up, now he's planning a road trip to PA.
what...
08-25-2008, 09:14 PM
It will probably be mexican, chinese, or japenese!:killingme
jazz lady
08-25-2008, 09:20 PM
Boordy Vineyards in Frederick has some nice wines too.
I really didn't care for them. I tried their JazzBerry because the name appealed to me :lol: and thought I was drinking perfume water. :dead:
But speaking of Pennsylvania wines, when huntr lived up near York, PA we used to buy wine from a place up there called Naylor. There was some issue with them being able to ship to Maryland however and you couldn't buy it on this side of the line, even though the actual winery was only 5 or 6 miles from Maryland.
THAT'S the one I was thinking about in PA and couldn't remember the name. Went up to York to shop and stumbled on their store in the mall. They make the BEST strawberry wine. :yum:
Dang it, I asked Huntr what the name of that winery was and he looked it up, now he's planning a road trip to PA.
If he goes, tell him to hook me up with some strawberry wine for me. I'll give him the $$$ for it and even chip in for gas. :cheers:
Dymphna
08-25-2008, 09:23 PM
I really didn't care for them. I tried their JazzBerry because the name appealed to me :lol: and thought I was drinking perfume water. :dead:
They have a spiced wassail at the holidays. I really liked it, but huntr didn't. More for me. :yum:
lillyst
08-25-2008, 10:11 PM
An incredible crab dip with the cheeses...yum
Maybe a micro-brewery on the waterfront with killer seafood and steaks to boot. Fresh local garden salads and sides and indoor/outdoor seating would make a perfect setting. For desserts, fresh daily options, as in whatever your chef bakes that day is what goes on the menu.
Yum...sounds like a recipe for success to me.
:drool:
huntr1
08-25-2008, 11:01 PM
If he goes, tell him to hook me up with some strawberry wine for me. I'll give him the $$$ for it and even chip in for gas. :cheers:
You watch the 3 older kids and I'm buying.
jazz lady
08-25-2008, 11:10 PM
You watch the 3 older kids and I'm buying.
The strawberry wine ain't THAT good. :twitch:
:lmao: Sure - I've got plenty of duct tape and Benadryl. :evil:
jazz lady
08-25-2008, 11:12 PM
They have a spiced wassail at the holidays. I really liked it, but huntr didn't. More for me. :yum:
I tried it last year at the Sotterley Wine Fest but somehow 90+ degree temps and killer humidity didn't quite enamor a warm winter wine to me. :lmao:
huntr1
08-25-2008, 11:16 PM
The strawberry wine ain't THAT good. :twitch:
:lmao: Sure - I've got plenty of duct tape and Benadryl. :evil:
:roflmao:
goodnight
huntr1
08-25-2008, 11:16 PM
I tried it last year at the Sotterley Wine Fest but somehow 90+ degree temps and killer humidity didn't quite enamor a warm winter wine to me. :lmao:
It tasted vinagerary to me.
BuddyLee
08-25-2008, 11:18 PM
Good Shirley Temple's.
jazz lady
08-25-2008, 11:21 PM
:roflmao:
Believe me, I've seen your kids. :lmao:
goodnight
Night! :smoochy:
kom526
08-26-2008, 01:55 AM
Microbrews!! Not domestics!!
:buddies::high5:
OBTW, Gilbert has Sunset Wheat in stock.:yay:
Bay_Kat
08-26-2008, 05:52 AM
What would be MUST HAVE menu items?:whistle:
Fish and Chips. I have not been able to find a place in Southern Maryland that has good fish and chips. Lived in New England for 2 years and there were fish and chip places all over, good stuff.
huntr1
08-26-2008, 06:30 AM
Believe me, I've seen your kids. :lmao:
Night! :smoochy:
:confused: My kids aren't hyper or high maintenance. But boy can they talk...
Beelzebaby666
08-26-2008, 06:46 AM
I want walleye and cod. Fried and broiled.
Real, homemake hushpuppies and slaw.
A salad bar without immitation crab.:barf:
Cream of crab, Maryland crab, French onion soups. (That aren't canned or slimy)
Oysters shooters.
Salmon cakes and fresh water catfish fillets that don't look like fish sticks.
Stuffed rockfish for breakfast:yum:
Elk Run dessert wines with a room temperature Brie, fresh fruit and crusty bread.
RoseRed
08-26-2008, 07:24 AM
Fresh authentic sourdough bread with fresh butter. :drool:
BS Gal
08-26-2008, 07:36 AM
Ceviche.
Chasey_Lane
08-26-2008, 07:40 AM
I'd like to eat good food in a casual dining experience. I want to wear jeans and flip flops. Places like The Tides turn me away because it's too stuffy and definitely overpriced. I'd also like to see smaller portions offered for regular menu items. I always seem to walk away with a doggy bag and sometimes it just goes to waste. :frown:
GWguy
08-26-2008, 07:55 AM
Fresh authentic sourdough bread with fresh butter. :drool:
Blech. Crusty Italian seeded Semolina.
Frogette
08-26-2008, 11:41 AM
What would be MUST HAVE menu items?:whistle:
I would love to see a restaurant offer good quality comfort food using fresh local ingredients. I am thinking the type of food my grandmother would serve for a Sunday dinner. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate a gourmet meal from time to time. My favorite meals, however, are always the meals I grew up with; Stewed Chicken with dumplings and potatoes; Fried Chicken, Roast Beef, Crab/Fish/Salmon cakes, Stewed Tomaotes, Collard Greens, Green Beans, Bean soup....etc..
I have been to places that attempt these realitively simple dishes, but they miss the mark becasue they often taste too processed.
ocean733
08-26-2008, 11:47 AM
Here's the thing for me, on this input.
If you don't like seafood, or are allergic, why not eat somewhere else?
I'm just saying.
Same as the people who eat all American food at a chinese buffet. WTH :lmao:
Because if I have a friend or a family member that doesn't like seafood, I get my way and they can still find something to eat:howdy:
Chicks in skimpy pirate costumes, singing bartenders, a real cannon that fires when someone leaves a big tip, a parrot that says cuss words by the front door and Key Lime pie. :yay:
Oh and you get a 10% discount if your whole party wears eye patches. :yay::yay:
CalvertNewbie
08-26-2008, 11:52 AM
Blech. Crusty Italian seeded Semolina.
:yum: It's always a great idea to start off with some really good bread. I don't eat seafood and neither does hubby. But when we have people visit us, we like to take them out for seafood and we'll just order a nice steak. To us, a great view of the water is worth a lot.
ocean733
08-26-2008, 11:52 AM
Chicks in skimpy pirate costumes, singing bartenders, a real cannon that fires when someone leaves a big tip, a parrot that says cuss words by the front door and Key Lime pie. :yay:
Oh and you get a 10% discount if your whole party wears eye patches. :yay::yay:
You are crazy, but I'd come!!!!:killingme
You are crazy, but I'd come!!!!:killingme
Probably twice! :huggy:
how about clean silverware :dead:
and a wait staff that is courteous not just tip hungry
ocean733
08-26-2008, 11:55 AM
Probably twice! :huggy:
:killingmeRight after I posted that, I knew you were gonna catch that!!!!:lmao:
myjobismommy
08-26-2008, 12:07 PM
The Tides have/had a menu item that was jumbo shrimp 3 ways - so YUMMY! Especially the coconut shrimp! Skip the old bay - eiww.
I'd like to see the gnocci crab like Vencenzios has - ohhhh sooo yummmmy....forget I'll just go to Vencenzios....
pixiegirl
08-26-2008, 12:09 PM
Good fresh dinner salads that use different ingredients, spinach, apples, pears, nuts, beets, asparagus, etc. I'm tired of the same old tired salads and 4 dressing choices.
Seaweed salad!
Different cooking options that are cooked correctly. I rarely eat steak but when I do I want it RARE, really rare. I get medium rare at best. Same with tuna. I want it pan seared and mostly raw but it's usually medium rare.
Chasey_Lane
08-26-2008, 12:33 PM
Chicks in skimpy pirate costumes, singing bartenders, a real cannon that fires when someone leaves a big tip, a parrot that says cuss words by the front door and Key Lime pie. :yay:
Oh and you get a 10% discount if your whole party wears eye patches. :yay::yay:Sounds like a party and the best choice yet. :buddies:
Socalgirl
08-26-2008, 03:13 PM
I was thinking a wine/martini bar/cold beer type of place with a limited, FRESH menu and a great "small town" feeling...
I'll take the first reservation!!! Cosmo, chocolate martini, pinot noir, maybe some Gorgonzola burschetta. Yum!:yahoo:
daisycreek
08-26-2008, 04:45 PM
the willows had a good seafood menu and Vera's does also
Oh and topic- kevin's cafe has a seafood platter- their food reminds me of Evan's when it was really Evan's
Dye Tied
08-26-2008, 05:17 PM
I was thinking a wine/martini bar/cold beer type of place with a limited, FRESH menu and a great "small town" feeling...
Martinis come second after wine, for me. I love a dirty one the best (with huge olives) and flavored ones for fun :drool:
toppick08
08-26-2008, 05:18 PM
the willows had a good seafood menu and Vera's does also
Oh and topic- kevin's cafe has a seafood platter- their food reminds me of Evan's when it was really Evan's
Kevin is my bud, and like his father too.......can't wait to try it....:yay:
Tigerlily
08-26-2008, 05:58 PM
So Remax are you and the hubby going back to the island?
remaxrealtor
08-26-2008, 06:33 PM
So Remax are you and the hubby going back to the island?
Close! Looks like we'll be getting something going down there in November. I REALLY, REALLY appreciate everyone being willing to throw ideas out there for us. The key to a successful restaurant is offering what people Want, not what you want them to eat. Your opinions are really important to us!
So here's the deal:
Small, relaxed and fun (flip flops and jeans/shorts welcome
Indoor/Outdoor dining
FRESH food, a limited menu of HIGH QUALITY items
wine bar ($2.50 a glass as well as good, but affordable choices)
Microbrews
CREATIVE munchies...NONE of the standards
Everything made from scratch by Rick
Open Fri/Sat/Sun
Beautiful views, quiet, waterfront and not a crazy drive (we want you to spend on a good meal, not gallons of gas!)
Most of all, we're going to focus on QUALITY and FUN, we're oing to run it the way we've always wanted, mostly just the two of us!
otter
08-26-2008, 06:43 PM
Close! Looks like we'll be getting something going down there in November. I REALLY, REALLY appreciate everyone being willing to throw ideas out there for us. The key to a successful restaurant is offering what people Want, not what you want them to eat. Your opinions are really important to us!
So here's the deal:
Small, relaxed and fun (flip flops and jeans/shorts welcome
Indoor/Outdoor dining
FRESH food, a limited menu of HIGH QUALITY items
wine bar ($2.50 a glass as well as good, but affordable choices)
Microbrews
CREATIVE munchies...NONE of the standards
Everything made from scratch by Rick
Open Fri/Sat/Sun
Beautiful views, quiet, waterfront and not a crazy drive (we want you to spend on a good meal, not gallons of gas!)
Most of all, we're going to focus on QUALITY and FUN, we're oing to run it the way we've always wanted, mostly just the two of us!
:yay: It's a rough biz, I wish you luck. It doesn't matter what you have on your menu, it all starts with service with a smile. I eat alot of places where the food isn't special, but the service is always top notch. Always been impressed with your wait staff (and your food), I'm sure yall will be fine.
Tigerlily
08-26-2008, 06:59 PM
:yay: It's a rough biz, I wish you luck. It doesn't matter what you have on your menu, it all starts with service with a smile. I eat alot of places where the food isn't special, but the service is always top notch. Always been impressed with your wait staff (and your food), I'm sure yall will be fine.
I completely agree. I have to say and it may sound crazy, but the best service I have had in the most recent months was at Chik-Fil-A on Saturday. I had my SO's mom with me. Our food was on the tray and to us before the change was counted back. The girl at the register said she would get our lemonade's and then bring them to our table ( I declined that offer). Then the same gal came to the table ten minutes later and offered to refill our drinks ( we once again thanked her and declined) Then she offered to take our tray which we happily accepted.
Friendly staff, awesome service and a clean establishment. whomever runs that show has their ducks in a row.
otter
08-26-2008, 07:24 PM
Friendly staff, awesome service and a clean establishment. whomever runs that show has their ducks in a row.
So many lose sight of the easiest thing to offer.
Baja28
08-26-2008, 08:06 PM
:buddies::high5:
OBTW, Gilbert has Sunset Wheat in stock.:yay:How'd you get him to do that? :lmao:
Go to Olde Stein Inn in Edgewater. They have a bottle import made with a 13th century recipe. Leipziger Gose (Lt.) 17oz. (Leipzig)~ $6~
Gose is a top-fermenting wheat beer {60% wheat, 40% barley malt} with coriander and salt, a hint of apple-skin aroma in the nose, with notes of plums, herbs, and coriander on the palate. I almost had an orgasm drinking this.
Go read this and :drool: ---> Old Stein Inn Bier Menu (http://www.oldstein-inn.com/bier_menu.html)
kom526
08-27-2008, 12:01 AM
How'd you get him to do that? :lmao:
Go read this and :drool: ---> Old Stein Inn Bier Menu (http://www.oldstein-inn.com/bier_menu.html)
I just walked in here it was in the cooler and they were MM-MM good. He also has Harp in stock, which was another shocker.
jazz lady
08-27-2008, 10:38 PM
Close! Looks like we'll be getting something going down there in November. I REALLY, REALLY appreciate everyone being willing to throw ideas out there for us. The key to a successful restaurant is offering what people Want, not what you want them to eat. Your opinions are really important to us!
You've got it! I'm so blasted tired of the cookie-cutter "restaurants" - give us something different and tailored to the area. :cheers:
So here's the deal:
Small, relaxed and fun (flip flops and jeans/shorts welcome
Indoor/Outdoor dining
FRESH food, a limited menu of HIGH QUALITY items
wine bar ($2.50 a glass as well as good, but affordable choices)
Microbrews
CREATIVE munchies...NONE of the standards
Everything made from scratch by Rick
Open Fri/Sat/Sun
Beautiful views, quiet, waterfront and not a crazy drive (we want you to spend on a good meal, not gallons of gas!)
Most of all, we're going to focus on QUALITY and FUN, we're going to run it the way we've always wanted, mostly just the two of us!
Sounds awesome! :yahoo: I can hardly wait to see you guys open. Good luck! :cheers:
virgovictoria
08-27-2008, 11:02 PM
Close! Looks like we'll be getting something going down there in November. I REALLY, REALLY appreciate everyone being willing to throw ideas out there for us. The key to a successful restaurant is offering what people Want, not what you want them to eat. Your opinions are really important to us!
So here's the deal:
Small, relaxed and fun (flip flops and jeans/shorts welcome
Indoor/Outdoor dining
FRESH food, a limited menu of HIGH QUALITY items
wine bar ($2.50 a glass as well as good, but affordable choices)
Microbrews
CREATIVE munchies...NONE of the standards
Everything made from scratch by Rick
Open Fri/Sat/Sun
Beautiful views, quiet, waterfront and not a crazy drive (we want you to spend on a good meal, not gallons of gas!)
Most of all, we're going to focus on QUALITY and FUN, we're oing to run it the way we've always wanted, mostly just the two of us!
Sounds really good! :yay: There are a few things that I would like to reiterate, but you've got enough on your plate! :biggrin: Break a leg!
BernieP
08-28-2008, 10:12 AM
Well, seafood obviously.
I'd like to see some interesting appetizers. I'm sick of chicken wings, cheese sticks and mini burgers.
Good beer on tap. yes, yes!!
Like maybe an oyster bar?
yes
Fresh seafood.
pcjohnnyb
08-28-2008, 11:07 AM
Microbrews
It all sounds just dandy but might I suggest also including at least one domestic/light domestic commercial beer on tap, just for those folks who don't have such a sophisticated beer palet? :lol: :yay:
Close! Looks like we'll be getting something going down there in November. I REALLY, REALLY appreciate everyone being willing to throw ideas out there for us. The key to a successful restaurant is offering what people Want, not what you want them to eat. Your opinions are really important to us!
So here's the deal:
Small, relaxed and fun (flip flops and jeans/shorts welcome
Indoor/Outdoor dining
FRESH food, a limited menu of HIGH QUALITY items
wine bar ($2.50 a glass as well as good, but affordable choices)
Microbrews
CREATIVE munchies...NONE of the standards
Everything made from scratch by Rick
Open Fri/Sat/Sun
Beautiful views, quiet, waterfront and not a crazy drive (we want you to spend on a good meal, not gallons of gas!)
Most of all, we're going to focus on QUALITY and FUN, we're oing to run it the way we've always wanted, mostly just the two of us!
What about chicks in skimpy pirate costumes, singing bartenders, a real cannon that fires when someone leaves a big tip, a parrot that says cuss words by the front door and Key Lime pie?
Oh and you get a 10% discount if your whole party wears eye patches?
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