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PsyOps
09-24-2008, 05:24 PM
I ran into an issue at work that I just can't find the answer to regarding ISDN. I wont elaborate until I get someone that really knows this stuff to answer my question.
GWguy
09-24-2008, 05:39 PM
:crickets:
We stopped using ISDN a while ago, always had Verizon maintain it and the modem.
Sorry, bud.
PsyOps
09-24-2008, 05:51 PM
:crickets:
We stopped using ISDN a while ago, always had Verizon maintain it and the modem.
Sorry, bud.
You mean you forgot? :eyebrow:
Must stay certified.... Must stay certified.
GWguy
09-24-2008, 06:29 PM
You mean you forgot? :eyebrow:
Must stay certified.... Must stay certified.
Yeah, it's been years. Our Networks folks gave Verizon all the setups, so I couldn't even tell you any of the params anymore. I just remember using NRZi data, dual channel 128 Kb/s.
2ndAmendment
09-24-2008, 06:46 PM
I ran into an issue at work that I just can't find the answer to regarding ISDN. I wont elaborate until I get someone that really knows this stuff to answer my question.
Two B plus D. What else do you need?
PsyOps
09-24-2008, 06:48 PM
Two B plus D. What else do you need?
Okay, we've defined a BRI. Try CHAP authentication over multiple B channels to be activated as BW demand rises.
2ndAmendment
09-24-2008, 06:52 PM
Okay, we've defined a BRI. Try CHAP authentication over multiple B channels to be activated as BW demand rises.
I think you are going to have to do the CHAP over one channel before bonding the channels, but you are beyond my expertise as I always bonded the channels and did not try to increase the bonding as the BW increased.
Once the channels are bonded, the CHAP should work over the bonded channels.
Deactivate as BW drops?
PsyOps
09-24-2008, 07:20 PM
I think you are going to have to do the CHAP over one channel before bonding the channels, but you are beyond my expertise as I always bonded the channels and did not try to increase the bonding as the BW increased.
Once the channels are bonded, the CHAP should work over the bonded channels.
Deactivate as BW drops?
PPP debugs show authentication occuring when raising the second channel as well. But the debug showed authentication failed. So I'm trying to figure out why, if authentication was successful when raising the first channel, the second channel failed. What's diffenent in authentication when bringing up additional channels?
Now what I discovered was hostname on the dialer channel for the far-end router was all upper case and the username on the local router was all lower case. Once I corrected this I was able to bring up additional channels. I'm trying to figure out if this was an issue why would the routers even bring up the first channel?
Yes, additional channels are dropped when BW drops.
2ndAmendment
09-24-2008, 07:35 PM
PPP debugs show authentication occuring when raising the second channel as well. But the debug showed authentication failed. So I'm trying to figure out why, if authentication was successful when raising the first channel, the second channel failed. What's diffenent in authentication when bringing up additional channels?
Now what I discovered was hostname on the dialer channel for the far-end router was all upper case and the username on the local router was all lower case. Once I corrected this I was able to bring up additional channels. I'm trying to figure out if this was an issue why would the routers even bring up the first channel?.
Same type of routers/modems? Some are case sensitive and some are not as I remember it.
Yes, additional channels are dropped when BW drops.
I remember doing this with my CISCO ISDN router, but the authentication always occurred on one channel.
RadioPatrol
09-25-2008, 11:41 AM
PPP debugs show authentication occuring when raising the second channel as well. But the debug showed authentication failed. So I'm trying to figure out why, if authentication was successful when raising the first channel, the second channel failed. What's diffenent in authentication when bringing up additional channels?
ok the dumb question, is this for some sort of VPN Solution ....
we use ISDN lines here ( for Radio Station Live Feeds ) but I know there are less expensive connection solutions than ISDN ...
:confused:
and I always hated troubleshooting PPP Issues ... MS VPN uses the same connection protocols? for PPTP .... so you get the fun have looking through logs when connections keep dropping .....
:whistle:
PsyOps
09-25-2008, 04:15 PM
ok the dumb question, is this for some sort of VPN Solution ....
we use ISDN lines here ( for Radio Station Live Feeds ) but I know there are less expensive connection solutions than ISDN ...
:confused:
and I always hated troubleshooting PPP Issues ... MS VPN uses the same connection protocols? for PPTP .... so you get the fun have looking through logs when connections keep dropping .....
:whistle:
No solution of any sort; and not VPN related. It's a current network setup that wasn't working. I just thought I understood ISDN until we had this problem.
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