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Nonno
09-27-2008, 12:02 PM
Michael Seitzman: Barack Obama and the Return of Grace (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-seitzman/barack-obama-and-the-retu_b_129838.html)


We haven't seen a lot of grace from our government over the past eight years. We haven't had a lot of it in our society in general and we certainly haven't seen much grace in the various campaigns. We're all guilty of it. I'm guilty of it too. But what we saw in the first debate between Barack Obama and John McCain was nothing less than the rebirth of such grace. Unfortunately it was fully embodied by only one candidate, while at the same time we witnessed the sad and profound gracelessness in the decaying integrity of the other.

John McCain displayed himself for all to see as a deeply angry, petty man, locked in a blood-war somewhere deep in the rice paddies of his frustrated and confused mind. He personalizes every conflict to the point that he can't even look at his opponent, as if by ignoring him he might be able to deny the man his dignity. What McCain doesn't realize is that the only person who surrendered his dignity was the one who shamefully displayed contempt in a forum designed to promote civil discourse on the most important issues of the day. And those issues are far too important to all of us to be obfuscated by the kind of pettiness we hope to never see in our leaders. Those who aspire to lead us are supposed to be the best among us. They are supposed to transcend and rise above those they would hope to lead. McCain's is the kind of behavior that wouldn't even be acceptable in a high school debate, let alone one between candidates for the highest office in the land.



This guy nails it. We don't need a grumpy old man with a chip on his shoulder in the Whitehouse. We put him in and we'll have four more years of the same old crappy leadership we got with Bush.

wollybugger
09-27-2008, 12:11 PM
We haven't seen a lot of Grace in our government over the past eight years.

I'm glad Barrack liked that show ... I liked it too. Is he trying to find a cabinet position for her?

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raven
09-27-2008, 12:12 PM
Michael Seitzman: Barack Obama and the Return of Grace (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/michael-seitzman/barack-obama-and-the-retu_b_129838.html)


We haven't seen a lot of grace from our government over the past eight years. We haven't had a lot of it in our society in general and we certainly haven't seen much grace in the various campaigns. We're all guilty of it. I'm guilty of it too. But what we saw in the first debate between Barack Obama and John McCain was nothing less than the rebirth of such grace. Unfortunately it was fully embodied by only one candidate, while at the same time we witnessed the sad and profound gracelessness in the decaying integrity of the other.

John McCain displayed himself for all to see as a deeply angry, petty man, locked in a blood-war somewhere deep in the rice paddies of his frustrated and confused mind. He personalizes every conflict to the point that he can't even look at his opponent, as if by ignoring him he might be able to deny the man his dignity. What McCain doesn't realize is that the only person who surrendered his dignity was the one who shamefully displayed contempt in a forum designed to promote civil discourse on the most important issues of the day. And those issues are far too important to all of us to be obfuscated by the kind of pettiness we hope to never see in our leaders. Those who aspire to lead us are supposed to be the best among us. They are supposed to transcend and rise above those they would hope to lead. McCain's is the kind of behavior that wouldn't even be acceptable in a high school debate, let alone one between candidates for the highest office in the land.



This guy nails it. We don't need a grumpy old man with a chip on his shoulder in the Whitehouse. We put him in and we'll have four more years of the same old crappy leadership we got with Bush.

I couldn't of sad it no better myself. Vote Obama for president!:buddies:

Lenny
09-27-2008, 12:13 PM
I'm glad Barrack liked that show ... I liked it too. Is he trying to find a cabinet position for her?

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I think it was Mike Seitzman that liked Grace, not Barrack. That show was not aimed at the A-squared community which means the hybrid probably never watched it.

Lenny
09-27-2008, 12:17 PM
....but here's (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1096958/) the kind of Grace Nono is hoping for.

aps45819
09-27-2008, 12:24 PM
I couldn't of sad it no better myself. Vote Obama for president!:buddies:

:confused: why would you give up your civil freedom so we can have elite rulers and a socilist ecomony?

wollybugger
09-27-2008, 12:28 PM
I couldn't of sad it no better myself. Vote Obama for president!:buddies:

Grace is such an unusually descriptor of Obama ... this is a guy that wants doctors to have the ability to excute babies of botched abortions (ie out of the womb)

It's shameful to attach the word Grace to him ...

bcp
09-27-2008, 12:40 PM
Im not sure about grace, and Im not even going to mention the fact that McCain acted presidential, and as a gentleman during the debates,

I do however find it interesting that you refer to the candidate that had a real issue with not interupting the other candidate during the debate as the one that showed the most grace.

Obama certainly showed some temper in his facial expressions, he spoke out of turn almost every time it was John McCains turn to speak, and if you were actually listening, you would have noticed that Obama had a hard time remembering Johns name.

and speaking of his name, who does that little pickaninny think he is to refer to Senator McCain as John anyway? Seems Senator McCain had the respect to refer to obama with the proper title. and never once missed his name.


over all grade for respect and presidential appearence certainly goes to John McCain hands down.

obamas ignorance during the debate is a very good indication of how he plans to run his administration.


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