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PsyOps
10-01-2008, 07:11 AM
And he's right...

Courts Allow Early Voting Week in Ohio (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/us/politics/30ohio.html?ref=politics)... and same day registration/voting.

In a defeat for Republican challenges, state and federal courts have cleared the way for a weeklong period in which new voters can register and cast an absentee ballot on the same day in Ohio...

In a 4-to-3 decision, the Ohio Supreme Court said Ms. Brunner was correct in ruling that voters do not need to be registered for at least 30 days before receiving an absentee ballot, as Republicans had argued.

Where's the trashcan. I have a Constitution to throw in there. What's the point?

SamSpade
10-01-2008, 07:31 AM
And he's right...

Courts Allow Early Voting Week in Ohio (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/30/us/politics/30ohio.html?ref=politics)... and same day registration/voting.



Where's the trashcan. I have a Constitution to throw in there. What's the point?

Well I was referring specifically to the VP debate. I don't know have an opinion on "early voting". Overseas ballots are early votes as well, and Oregon does all mail-in voting. Arizona is having early mail-in as well.

Now, SAME DAY registration and voting, I've always had doubts, because it strikes me as a guarantee of fraud, no matter who it favors. I don't see how they can verify voter credentials on the day of registration. Worse, I've yet to see anyone go to jail over massive voting fraud, even when it's well documented.

As far as Obama is concerned, I'm pretty much of the opinion that he is just going to win. I think if the media didn't wet itself and swoon constantly over him, he just may have had a chance to win my vote, but I can't stand the love-fest they have over him, and I detest the idea that I'm being barraged with Obama propaganda for the last year and a half.

The only silver lining is that when he wins, he is going to inherit a mess, and he is absolutely not up to the challenge. I'd like to say that if he delivers on what he claims, he'll go down as one of our great Presidents, but I'm far more inclined to believe that two years into his administration, people are going to think even Bush was better. And with all the constant, constant rhetoric about how the world loves him and how his election will boost our standing in the world - the world is fickle and their beef with Americans goes far deeper than George Bush, and they'll heap scorn on Obama before the spring arrives.

PsyOps
10-01-2008, 07:59 AM
Well I was referring specifically to the VP debate. I don't know have an opinion on "early voting". Overseas ballots are early votes as well, and Oregon does all mail-in voting. Arizona is having early mail-in as well.

Now, SAME DAY registration and voting, I've always had doubts, because it strikes me as a guarantee of fraud, no matter who it favors. I don't see how they can verify voter credentials on the day of registration. Worse, I've yet to see anyone go to jail over massive voting fraud, even when it's well documented.

As far as Obama is concerned, I'm pretty much of the opinion that he is just going to win. I think if the media didn't wet itself and swoon constantly over him, he just may have had a chance to win my vote, but I can't stand the love-fest they have over him, and I detest the idea that I'm being barraged with Obama propaganda for the last year and a half.

The only silver lining is that when he wins, he is going to inherit a mess, and he is absolutely not up to the challenge. I'd like to say that if he delivers on what he claims, he'll go down as one of our great Presidents, but I'm far more inclined to believe that two years into his administration, people are going to think even Bush was better. And with all the constant, constant rhetoric about how the world loves him and how his election will boost our standing in the world - the world is fickle and their beef with Americans goes far deeper than George Bush, and they'll heap scorn on Obama before the spring arrives.

I was expounding on the thought. A larger left wing conspiracy perhaps.

Allowing registration without resident or citizen verification is a violation of state law and potentially the constitution.

awpitt
10-01-2008, 10:10 AM
I was expounding on the thought. A larger left wing conspiracy perhaps.

Allowing registration without resident or citizen verification is a violation of state law and potentially the constitution.A left wing conspiracy? That would be interesting considering most of the judges involved are republicans. This situation was mentioned in the news yesterday and the same day registration/voting does require registrants to have documentation.

kom526
10-01-2008, 10:18 AM
A left wing conspiracy?

Yep left wing.
Featured Article - WSJ.com (http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009189)
I know it is an op/ed piece but notice the date or just google ACORN voter fraud.





Here is a piece that is a little more recent:
CRL Testimony on ACORN's Voter Fraud - MarketWatch (http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/crl-testimony-acorns-voter-fraud/story.aspx?guid=%7B573B31D0-6AB7-4353-B8E7-91300F4DFF81%7D&dist=hppr)

awpitt
10-01-2008, 10:26 AM
Yep left wing.
Featured Article - WSJ.com (http://opinionjournal.com/editorial/feature.html?id=110009189)
I know it is an op/ed piece but notice the date or just google ACORN voter fraud.





Here is a piece that is a little more recent:
CRL Testimony on ACORN's Voter Fraud - MarketWatch (http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/crl-testimony-acorns-voter-fraud/story.aspx?guid=%7B573B31D0-6AB7-4353-B8E7-91300F4DFF81%7D&dist=hppr)Okay but I was talking about the same-day voting period in OH that was upheld by a GOP dominated State Supreme Court.

PsyOps
10-01-2008, 11:18 AM
A left wing conspiracy? That would be interesting considering most of the judges involved are republicans. This situation was mentioned in the news yesterday and the same day registration/voting does require registrants to have documentation.

Ever heard of a liberal Republican? It was the Ohio GOP that was suing to stop this anyway. You know as well as I do this plays to the democrats advantage. They will go out with buses and vans and provide free meals to homeless people, et.al. then put a form in front of them then take them to vote.

This is the perfect setup for fraud. Makes no difference to me what party it is; fraud is fraud.

SamSpade
10-01-2008, 11:30 AM
Okay but I was talking about the same-day voting period in OH that was upheld by a GOP dominated State Supreme Court.

And they ruled against Republicans. Imagine that.

chernmax
10-01-2008, 11:32 AM
We may be witnessing the culmination of attempts at voter fraud to steal the election for the President of the United States. ACORN is at the heart of the massive defaults on mortgages. ACORN is also a known violator of election laws and generator of fraudulent voters.

Now, in Ohio, an attempt is being made to create a bank of votes by registering new voters in masse. In this calamity will surely be the usual fraudulent voters that show up in every location ACORN is active.
An attempt was made to sequester and quarantine the voter registration document and accompanying absentee ballot until all the associated registration applications can be verified and validated. This attempt was not allowed by the Ohio Supreme Court. These voter registration applications and associated ballots will be commingled with other absentee ballots before the voter registration can be authenticated.
This is ludicrous. There is no way to avoid the usual election fraud induced by ACORN in this situation.

awpitt
10-01-2008, 11:33 AM
Ever heard of a liberal Republican?Yes but I don't know that is the case here.

awpitt
10-01-2008, 11:36 AM
You know as well as I do this plays to the democrats advantage. They will go out with buses and vans and provide free meals to homeless people, et.al. then put a form in front of them then take them to vote.Both parties do things that will better their chances. Just like Flawell is trying to get the Liberty Baptist students to change their residencies to VA so they can try to swing the election in VA.

PsyOps
10-01-2008, 12:14 PM
Both parties do things that will better their chances. Just like Flawell is trying to get the Liberty Baptist students to change their residencies to VA so they can try to swing the election in VA.

Get folks to change their residency isn't illegal, nor does it create a means to commit fraud, even if for political reasons. Allowing people to register to vote without any sort of verification of whether they are a resident of Ohio or American citizen is a pathway to commit voter fraud.

awpitt
10-01-2008, 12:32 PM
Get folks to change their residency isn't illegal, nor does it create a means to commit fraud, even if for political reasons. Allowing people to register to vote without any sort of verification of whether they are a resident of Ohio or American citizen is a pathway to commit voter fraud.Based on what I saw last night, this is not occuring. The only odd thing is that they're able to register and vote on the same day. In order to register, they still have to have documentation.

SamSpade
10-01-2008, 12:37 PM
Both parties do things that will better their chances. Just like Flawell is trying to get the Liberty Baptist students to change their residencies to VA so they can try to swing the election in VA.

I haven't heard this, but Falwell and Liberty Baptist are small potatoes. This IS happening in Ohio.

I don't think you should be able to cast a vote in a state that is not your permanent residence. If you don't pay Ohio taxes, you shouldn't be able to vote in Ohio elections.

PsyOps
10-01-2008, 12:47 PM
Based on what I saw last night, this is not occuring. The only odd thing is that they're able to register and vote on the same day. In order to register, they still have to have documentation.

Oh... documentation. Why didn't you say so. I can get that. :bigwhoop:

The process demands that there be a verification of who that person is; that all of their info stacks up: name, valid address, SSN, residency, no duplications, etc... There is not way, under these circumstances to verify this.


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