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backagain39
10-17-2008, 08:47 PM
The polls are closer than you think................:dye:

Closer Than You Think? Presidential Polling Data Leave Room for Interpretation - FOXNews.com Elections (http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/10/17/closer-think-drilling-presidential-polling-data/)

PsyOps
10-17-2008, 09:43 PM
Can't be said enough... There is only one poll that matters.

soul4sale
10-17-2008, 10:59 PM
The polls are closer than you think......

Lemme guess. They're humping a Zogby poll. Fox can't sell convince the GOP to blow its wad if the election is over by halftime. Meanwhile, over at Gallup (http://www.politico.com/)...

blazinlow89
10-18-2008, 04:46 AM
Lemme guess. They're humping a Zogby poll. Fox can't sell convince the GOP to blow its wad if the election is over by halftime. Meanwhile, over at Gallup (http://www.politico.com/)...

You are a bigger idiot that forestool, nhboy and nonno put together. First off Politico is more dem than fox is republican. Second the poll on the site doesnt offer any info other than the swing states, it doesnt show how many people where surveyed, what area etc. a group of 2k people does not represent the majority of the country. 3rd Osama is an idiot just like you.

On another note look at this poll with over 20k votes 10x times more than your average poll, McCain is destroying Osama with the only area representing him being DC. Keep an eye on it last week there where over 200k votes with 54% to Mccain. You also need to sign in to cast a vote so no more double votes one is all you get.

AOL Straw Poll: Aug. 18-25 - Political Machine (http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/08/18/aol-straw-poll-aug-18-25)

cwo_ghwebb
10-18-2008, 08:29 AM
Can't be said enough... There is only one poll that matters.

And in most elections the polls have been wrong.

Highlander
10-18-2008, 09:17 AM
You are a bigger idiot that forestool, nhboy and nonno put together. First off Politico is more dem than fox is republican. Second the poll on the site doesnt offer any info other than the swing states, it doesnt show how many people where surveyed, what area etc. a group of 2k people does not represent the majority of the country. 3rd Osama is an idiot just like you.

On another note look at this poll with over 20k votes 10x times more than your average poll, McCain is destroying Osama with the only area representing him being DC. Keep an eye on it last week there where over 200k votes with 54% to Mccain. You also need to sign in to cast a vote so no more double votes one is all you get.

AOL Straw Poll: Aug. 18-25 - Political Machine (http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/08/18/aol-straw-poll-aug-18-25)

I didn't think this was possible unless of course Soul4sale is another one of Forestal's MPDs. I also think it's better that we just shake our heads and smile for now. If we get the dems worried, they will be forced to commit more voter fraud.

My biggest worry is what is going to happen after the election. When McCain wins, there will be rioting all around our country. History has show how certain people react when things don't go their way.

ImnoMensa
10-18-2008, 10:15 AM
This is the fisrt election in my memory where voter fraud was so openly allowed.

How can anyone in America see what ACORN is getting away with and have any faith in our election process.

Obama's ties to ACORN are beyond dispute and people may elect this guy President.

I am amazed that a man who won his first election by challenging the validity of signatures on petitions of his opponents , may win this one by the votes of voters with no validity.

Beta84
10-18-2008, 10:52 AM
I dream of an America that stops quoting FOX NEWS. Does any other news source say the stuff in that article? Probably not.

McCain has an uphill battle and needs to turn it up a notch, but not with the negative campaigns. He just needs to show everyone why he's superior. Attempting to show a little youth may not be such a bad idea either, because too many are questioning his age. IMO he needs to slam Florida, because Obama is being negligent in key areas.

Beta84
10-18-2008, 10:55 AM
This is the fisrt election in my memory where voter fraud was so openly allowed.

How can anyone in America see what ACORN is getting away with and have any faith in our election process.

Obama's ties to ACORN are beyond dispute and people may elect this guy President.

I am amazed that a man who won his first election by challenging the validity of signatures on petitions of his opponents , may win this one by the votes of voters with no validity.

Fight the Smears: Barack Obama Never Organized with ACORN (http://fightthesmears.com/articles/20/acornrumor?source=sem-pm-fts-ac-search-nsw&gclid=CKfbqLf2sJYCFQVxFQodmGS4LA)

Discredited Republican voter-suppression guru Ken Blackwell is attacking Barack Obama with naked lies about his supposed connection to ACORN.

• Fact: Barack was never an ACORN community organizer.
• Fact: ACORN never hired Obama as a trainer, organizer, or any type of employee.
• Fact: ACORN was not part of Project Vote, the successful voter registration drive Barack ran in 1992.

In his capacity as an attorney, Barack represented ACORN in a successful lawsuit alongside the U.S. Department of Justice against the state of Illinois to force state compliance with a federal voting access law. For his work helping enforce the law, called “Motor Voter,” Barack received the IVI-IPO Legal Eagle Award in 1995. (For more about Barack’s career, check out our Obama bio.)

Ken Blackwell is best known today for disenfranchising Democratic voters in his dual role as Ohio Secretary of State and chair of George Bush’s Ohio campaign in 2004. To see him shed crocodile tears for the integrity of the vote while making accusations about Barack and ACORN with absolutely no basis in fact is disturbing.

Blackwell’s attacks against ACORN and community organizers continue a vile Republican pattern of mockery and viciousness against this noble profession. Community organizers are the very individuals Republicans should be celebrating for helping people to help themselves rather than depending on the government.



Just because Fox News says so doesn't mean it's true. Two (or more) sides to every story. So clearly it's not "beyond dispute". I don't really know where the answer is, though.

ImnoMensa
10-18-2008, 10:44 PM
Inside Obama’s Acorn by Stanley Kurtz on National Review Online (http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=NDZiMjkwMDczZWI5ODdjOWYxZTIzZGIyNzEyMjE0ODI=)


The Weekly Standard (http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2008/10/the_acorn_connection.asp)

Right Side Politics Examiner: More shame on the Democrats and their community organizers (http://www.examiner.com/x-268-Right-Side-Politics-Examiner?mode=search&q=shame&Submit.x=23&Submit.y=12)

Obama's ACORN Connection To Voter Fraud, By Bonnie Erbe - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/14/usnews/whispers/main4521003.shtml)

Right Side Politics Examiner: Uncovering more Obama ACORN connections (http://www.examiner.com/x-268-Right-Side-Politics-Examiner~y2008m10d11-Uncovering-more-Obama-ACORN-connections?comments=true)

Well there are a few others besides Fox News who see a connection between Obama and ACORN and of course if you wish not to believe that Obama once served as their lawyer and that he didnt send ACORN $800,000 form his election campaign, I cant stop you from believing it, just like you will not deter me from thinking the connection is pretty strong.

backagain39
10-18-2008, 10:54 PM
I give Fox News credit for having views from both sides unlike other networks.....and what is up with Obama slamming Fox on the debates and during the Albert Smith dinner.........and in an interview with the New York Times.......

The gloves are off......

Bann
10-19-2008, 05:59 PM
You are a bigger idiot that forestool, nhboy and nonno put together. First off Politico is more dem than fox is republican. Second the poll on the site doesnt offer any info other than the swing states, it doesnt show how many people where surveyed, what area etc. a group of 2k people does not represent the majority of the country. 3rd Osama is an idiot just like you.

On another note look at this poll with over 20k votes 10x times more than your average poll, McCain is destroying Osama with the only area representing him being DC. Keep an eye on it last week there where over 200k votes with 54% to Mccain. You also need to sign in to cast a vote so no more double votes one is all you get.

AOL Straw Poll: Aug. 18-25 - Political Machine (http://news.aol.com/political-machine/2008/08/18/aol-straw-poll-aug-18-25)

I never recall a poll being that heavily weighted for a Republican! I used to have AOL, and even when I was with Comcast, I had an email group of friends still w/ AOL. They would pass along news & tidbits VIA AOL's news sources. They were usually heavily weighted towards Democrats.

blazinlow89
10-20-2008, 12:41 AM
I never recall a poll being that heavily weighted for a Republican! I used to have AOL, and even when I was with Comcast, I had an email group of friends still w/ AOL. They would pass along news & tidbits VIA AOL's news sources. They were usually heavily weighted towards Democrats.

I was just saying when you compare a poll that bases its numbers off of 2000 people why is a poll that can get well over 100k votes not just as accurate.

I will agree most of the online news outlets are leaning towards the dems.

Bann
10-20-2008, 06:50 AM
I was just saying when you compare a poll that bases its numbers off of 2000 people why is a poll that can get well over 100k votes not just as accurate.

I will agree most of the online news outlets are leaning towards the dems.


Oh, I wasn't criticizing the poll, I should have been more clear. AOL has always leaned more towards Dems - maybe this is an indication of something different this year?


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