In my opinion the GMHS Varsity lost its pride in football when they removed the G from the helmet. When will we get great football games back at GM? GM football haven't been contenders since my class graduated in 97. That's a long time.

I remember us winning 6 home games before they tore up the old field. It use to be where the parking lot is now. I also remember Coach Hoop and his brother Joey. Some of the best coaches ever in SMAC. Coach Hoop use to always tell us "Take it to the House".

We as a community need to get football back to St. Mary's and play some smash mouth football.

I graduated 96 I may know you

I graduated 96 I may know you

o really yeah you may no me.

In my opinion the GMHS Varsity lost its pride in football when they removed the G from the helmet. When will we get great football games back at GM? GM football haven't been contenders since my class graduated in 97. That's a long time.

I remember us winning 6 home games before they tore up the old field. It use to be where the parking lot is now. I also remember Coach Hoop and his brother Joey. Some of the best coaches ever in SMAC. Coach Hoop use to always tell us "Take it to the House".

We as a community need to get football back to St. Mary's and play some smash mouth football.

Do you SERIOUSLY think that the removal of a "G" on a helmet caused the demise of football at GMHS? :confused:

There are several teams at GMHS that are doing very well. I think their soccer teams are pretty stout, their Field Hockey team did well this year, and their girls basketball team went to States last year. :shrug: It ain't ALWAYS about football.

Do you SERIOUSLY think that the removal of a "G" on a helmet caused the demise of football at GMHS? :confused:

There are several teams at GMHS that are doing very well. I think their soccer teams are pretty stout, their Field Hockey team did well this year, and their girls basketball team went to States last year. :shrug: It ain't ALWAYS about football.

Sorry I should have posted it better. My topic is strictly about football.

The problem is they tons of talent walking around that school but thet aren't eligible. I went to college and worked with coach and puts alot of energy and knowledge into that program with what he has that meets grades

The problem is they tons of talent walking around that school but thet aren't eligible. I went to college and worked with coach and puts alot of energy and knowledge into that program with what he has that meets grades

I was going to post the exact same thoughts. That and the problem with so many students only being there for a year or two before mom/dad get transferred again...:shrug:

The problem is they tons of talent walking around that school but thet aren't eligible. I went to college and worked with coach and puts alot of energy and knowledge into that program with what he has that meets grades

This is true. But what can we as a community do to help these kids get better grades? Do we blame the parents or do we blame the students?

Do you SERIOUSLY think that the removal of a "G" on a helmet caused the demise of football at GMHS? :confused:

There are several teams at GMHS that are doing very well. I think their soccer teams are pretty stout, their Field Hockey team did well this year, and their girls basketball team went to States last year. :shrug: It ain't ALWAYS about football.

Maybe, since the "G" represented the word "great" somehow removing it removed the great from the players. This in turn took away the player's mojo and now they are just average kids again trying to play a game with out their super powers. I remember when I wasseven I had a Green Hornet lunch pail that I believed made me powerful. When I reached High School some mean kids got a hold of it and it was destroyed. This simple act left me very vulnerable and for the remainder of my high school years I was beat and picked on relentlessly.... All because the Green Hornets power was gone.

I didn't get my mojo back until years later and I entered the miltary and started working out every day...... It is possible that GMHS is a lousy football team becasue the "G" is gone..... Don't you think?

I was going to post the exact same thoughts. That and the problem with so many students only being there for a year or two before mom/dad get transferred again...:shrug:

Nacho,

In my opinion I think the G was the heart and soul of GM. I use to love putting on that uniform. Made me feel like I was playing for the Green Bay Packers. It stood for something.

Maybe, since the "G" represented the word "great" somehow removing it removed the great from the players. This in turn took away the player's mojo and now they are just average kids again trying to play a game with out their super powers. I remember when I wasseven I had a Green Hornet lunch pail that I believed made me powerful. When I reached High School some mean kids got a hold of it and it was destroyed. This simple act left me very vulnerable and for the remainder of my high school years I was beat and picked on relentlessly.... All because the Green Hornets power was gone.

I didn't get my mojo back until years later and I entered the miltary and started working out every day...... It is possible that GMHS is a lousy football team becasue the "G" is gone..... Don't you think?

:lol: I mean...:poorbaby:

And I think they are a lousy football team because dolemite doesn't play there anymore. :ohwell:

Maybe, since the "G" represented the word "great" somehow removing it removed the great from the players. This in turn took away the player's mojo and now they are just average kids again trying to play a game with out their super powers. I remember when I wasseven I had a Green Hornet lunch pail that I believed made me powerful. When I reached High School some mean kids got a hold of it and it was destroyed. This simple act left me very vulnerable and for the remainder of my high school years I was beat and picked on relentlessly.... All because the Green Hornets power was gone.

I didn't get my mojo back until years later and I entered the miltary and started working out every day...... It is possible that GMHS is a lousy football team becasue the "G" is gone..... Don't you think?

G is gone yep. The Trill is gone also. Thanks for agreeing.

This is true. But what can we as a community do to help these kids get better grades? Do we blame the parents or do we blame the students?

Yes.

And I think they are a lousy football team because dolemite doesn't play there anymore. :ohwell:
He was "kinda popular."

G is gone yep. The Trill is gone also. Thanks for agreeing.

Go talk to one of the AP's or even Mrs. Henley, the AD about being a mentor. Just make sure you go to the main office in Leonardtown to get fingerprinted. We wouldn't want pervs up in there "mentoring" our youth, if you know what I mean...:twitch:

:lol: I mean...:poorbaby:

And I think they are a lousy football team because dolemite doesn't play there anymore. :ohwell:

Nacho your being funny but your also making a true statement. They haven't had a winning record since my class of 97 left. In 95-96 we were 8-2 had 6 shut outs and our opponents only scored 55 points on us the whole season.

Go talk to one of the AP's or even Mrs. Henley, the AD about being a mentor. Just make sure you go to the main office in Leonardtown to get fingerprinted. We wouldn't want pervs up in there "mentoring" our youth, if you know what I mean...:twitch:

That sounds like a good idea. But I need help from the community to make these kids grades better and get back to playing smash mouth football.

Maybe we can talk Coach Hoop into coming back. He's still there.:popcorn:

G is gone yep. The Trill is gone also. Thanks for agreeing.

No problem... Did you read my entire story? I thought it was funny. One more thing. What does trill mean?:buddies:

Nacho your being funny but your also making a true statement. They haven't had a winning record since my class of 97 left. In 95-96 we were 8-2 had 6 shut outs and our opponents only scored 55 points on us the whole season.

Do you go to the games now? GMHS got shut out Friday night by Chopticon, a team that only won to L'town by like 7 points or something, but also beat Lackey, and gave Westlake a run for their money before losing, but also got their butts handed to them by Patuxent. :shrug: Domination seems to run in flows; right now it's flowing the direction of Patuxent and Westlake.

This is true. But what can we as a community do to help these kids get better grades? Do we blame the parents or do we blame the students?
Both but also it is laziness. I guess they think Obama will take care of them.

What you need to do, is get rid of the couch staff there now.

Lots of good players on the team....but they sit the bench because the Couches have their favorites. The football team was still ok in 98/99...nothing like it was before that though. And forget anything after that. I stopped going to games...they lost pride in winning or even trying

No problem... Did you read my entire story? I thought it was funny. One more thing. What does trill mean?:buddies:

Yes I read it.

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What you need to do, is get rid of the couch staff there now.

Lots of good players on the team....but they sit the bench because the Couches have their favorites. The football team was still ok in 98/99...nothing like it was before that though. And forget anything after that. I stopped going to games...they lost pride in winning or even trying

So why is it so different for the other sports programs there that are doing well? I mean, as a coach, if I had a star athlete sitting the bench next to my best friends son, I'd play the star athlete over the friend's kid. :shrug: I don't buy that.

Do you go to the games now? GMHS got shut out Friday night by Chopticon, a team that only won to L'town by like 7 points or something, but also beat Lackey, and gave Westlake a run for their money before losing, but also got their butts handed to them by Patuxent. :shrug: Domination seems to run in flows; right now it's flowing the direction of Patuxent and Westlake.

Westlake has always been good. There players start playing with each other in Pee Wee Football.

Westlake also isn't the top team in SMAC this year. North Point and Lackey handed them there a....

So why is it so different for the other sports programs there that are doing well? I mean, as a coach, if I had a star athlete sitting the bench next to my best friends son, I'd play the star athlete over the friend's kid. :shrug: I don't buy that.
Because the other teams have different coaches, that believe in playing players. That are good, and even the ones that arent!

The football coaches since hoop left have always been horrible. Which is why you have a "bad" football team. I truely don't think the kids are bad players, I think the coaches need new ideas...

Westlake has always been good. There players start playing with each other in Pee Wee Football.

Westlake also isn't the top team in SMAC this year. North Point and Lackey handed them there a....

I totally agree. So maybe the problem lies in the Rec & Park Program down here not being as strong as the Rec program in Charles County?

Westlake has taken a tumble this year; and Chopticon doesn't play North Point, but I always knew that once they reached full-grade level capacity, they'd be contenders.

my son is a junior DB/WR at Calvert HS, and their tradition is waning also. Lost 53-0 to rival PAX, and are 2-7 (I think we beat GMHS, not sure)...
The new Huntingtown HS tore the guts out of the coaching and talent. Girls teams and baseball remain tough, tho...

GMHS has a school-wide discipline problem, so athletics will suffer...

Yes I read it.

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So "thrill" wasn't more appropriate?

I totally agree. So maybe the problem lies in the Rec & Park Program down here not being as strong as the Rec program in Charles County?

Westlake has taken a tumble this year; and Chopticon doesn't play North Point, but I always knew that once they reached full-grade level capacity, they'd be contenders.


Yep Rec & Park down here don't have fields like other teams. You could start with saying Rec & Park is the problem. That's a starting point.

So "thrill" wasn't more appropriate?


LOL I meant Thrill. :yahoo:

Nacho your being funny but your also making a true statement. They haven't had a winning record since my class of 97 left. In 95-96 we were 8-2 had 6 shut outs and our opponents only scored 55 points on us the whole season.

You also had John Duckett didn't you he was a man-child. He also ruled the basketball court

LOL I meant Thrill. :yahoo:

I know you did, I just wanted to see if I could get you to ttell me what trill meant. A+

The problem is they tons of talent walking around that school but thet aren't eligible. I went to college and worked with coach and puts alot of energy and knowledge into that program with what he has that meets grades

Are you serious? The Great Mills football program(Varsity,JV & Freshman) is bad because the coaching staff does not teach fundamentals. The players do not have the basic knowledge of blocking and tackling. I have watched several games of the entire program and there is one theme that runs from top to bottom. The coaching is horrible at best. When the players are not being taught the basic fundamentals and build upon that the end result is exactly what you see today. A 19 game losing streak speeding quickly to 20.

There is a good base of talent in the program. All the kids need is to be taught the game. Coaching and teaching are the same.

i have been to many games also, having a son on the freshmen team. I think there are many talented and athletic students on the team. As far as the grades, and students not being eligible I question that. How many players are on one team are you telling me they all stink and we need to find students who can hold a 2.0 grade poin average that will make the team so we can win. I can see a few students who would be asset to team but not a whole team. I dont know what needs to be done but something needs to be done to make it more positive. (Let me tell you all i am a dolphin fan so i know about a losing season team. )on a positive note the jv is not doing half bad they may even have more wins then losses if win next game i think.

Are you serious? The Great Mills football program(Varsity,JV & Freshman) is bad because the coaching staff does not teach fundamentals. The players do not have the basic knowledge of blocking and tackling. I have watched several games of the entire program and there is one theme that runs from top to bottom. The coaching is horrible at best. When the players are not being taught the basic fundamentals and build upon that the end result is exactly what you see today. A 19 game losing streak speeding quickly to 20.

There is a good base of talent in the program. All the kids need is to be taught the game. Coaching and teaching are the same.


When a football parent told me that there were adults with lots of time on their hands bashing Great Mills football, I asked her if she was kidding. Yep, there are people out there. Wow, get a life. People without a clue should not have opinions what they do not know anything about, but this is America. Question: Budman, do you still go to high football parties as well? Do you browse your old high school yearbooks and wonder what could have been? If you do, then seek help buddy and quit picking on football players and the coaches at Great Mills. Peace.

You also had John Duckett didn't you he was a man-child. He also ruled the basketball court

Yeah, we did have John at GM and he rocked the field/court!!

When a football parent told me that there were adults with lots of time on their hands bashing Great Mills football, I asked her if she was kidding. Yep, there are people out there. Wow, get a life. People without a clue should not have opinions what they do not know anything about, but this is America. Question: Budman, do you still go to high football parties as well? Do you browse your old high school yearbooks and wonder what could have been? If you do, then seek help buddy and quit picking on football players and the coaches at Great Mills. Peace.

The coaching is that bad.

I think if you took a few minutes and actually read my quote I am not bashing any players. In fact I mention that there is a good base of talent in the program. They just need to be taught(or coached) properly. I would never direct anything towards the kids. They are giving their all.

As far as not having a clue or an opinion about something I know nothing about it sounds like I could direct that comment back at you. I could make some wise a** comment about forgetting more than you will ever know but I will refrain.

Answers to your questions: I won't waste time on the HS parties question.
As far as looking at my old yearbooks if I could find them I would enjoy re-reading the successes of my past teams. Thanks for reminding me to locate those. You may want to read all the old GM yearbooks to see if there has ever been such a long stretch of ineptness in coaching. Bet your house payment you won't see any 20 game losing streaks.

Yeah, we did have John at GM and he rocked the field/court!!

john duckett was the man....wonder what happened to him

The coaching is that bad.

I think if you took a few minutes and actually read my quote I am not bashing any players. In fact I mention that there is a good base of talent in the program. They just need to be taught(or coached) properly. I would never direct anything towards the kids. They are giving their all.

As far as not having a clue or an opinion about something I know nothing about it sounds like I could direct that comment back at you. I could make some wise a** comment about forgetting more than you will ever know but I will refrain.

Answers to your questions: I won't waste time on the HS parties question.
As far as looking at my old yearbooks if I could find them I would enjoy re-reading the successes of my past teams. Thanks for reminding me to locate those. You may want to read all the old GM yearbooks to see if there has ever been such a long stretch of ineptness in coaching. Bet your house payment you won't see any 20 game losing streaks.



Dude, you are so sad and that's two house payments by the way. Get the old yearbooks and see how sad you really are. Get off Great Mills coaches because obviously with all of the coaching you had, I didn't read your name in the NFL. Oh, I am sorry, not high school parties, drinking some beer at some old dive bar talking about the old times. Here's a nickle, have a drink on me.

john duckett was the man....wonder what happened to him

I'd like to know that too. I know that he went to VA Tech but never heard anything after that. I knew a few people that played from 93'-97'. Good teams. :yay:

Dude, you are so sad and that's two house payments by the way. Get the old yearbooks and see how sad you really are. Get off Great Mills coaches because obviously with all of the coaching you had, I didn't read your name in the NFL. Oh, I am sorry, not high school parties, drinking some beer at some old dive bar talking about the old times. Here's a nickle, have a drink on me.

Is your name in the NFL? If the coaches were great they'd be alot better. :shrug:

Went to a bunch of games at GMHS this year and noticed a couple of things:
The varsity and freshman teams were sorely lacking in discipline. Take a look at any team's defense and running game: the more you follow your blocks, blocking assignments and stay home as a defensive player the better off your team will be.
The JV on the other hand looks to be a power to be reckoned with next year.
They run well, swarm to the ball and stick together, they have consistency and discipline - good for them!
This is the head coach's fourth year (I have been told), this should be the turning point in the program because the kids getting on varsity have been learning his playbook since they were freshman and should have it down pat next year. I have also heard that the much maligned AD is stepping down this year, which according to more than one parent, may make a big difference.
A few other things I have noticed, I don't see any more discipline problems at GMHS reported, than at the other two high schools in St.Marys. I understand that the coaches called [B]54[B] kids at the beginning of the year and told them not to report because of their grades, they should be commended, not scorned, the grades are the kids problem.
Mentoring? One of the Engineering firms offered to hold study hall so the kids who were having a hard time with physics could get better grades!
I'm surprised none has taken offense to the statement about Chopticon being a lame football team. The last I saw, they were in the running to go to the semi finals in SMAC, (that was to be determined last weekend). Those guys are BIG, disciplined and (hate to say it) good.
Leonardtown believes they have a top coach and a self made reputation that they are the best. Their record? Last I looked I believe they may have actually won two or three games. This is the best?
I don't think the "G" makes a big difference, but it is a tradition, and there aren't many around any more.
Brings up the question: what does the team need? Talent, discipline and coaches who teach the basics.
Since it starts with the coaches, I think we should send them to a coaching camp where they can get pointers and learn new techniques, fund raiser anyone? Oh that's right there aren't enough boosters because the parents don't give a ****.
:popcorn:

The problem with athletics in general in SMCPS is the lack of funding, the politics of picking the coach and transportation.
The facilities are not adequete to support multiple sports in a season, there is not enough practice space and because of the limited budget the fields have to be protected. I was sitting in an office the other day when one of the parent/coaches dialed in to find out hat ALL outdoor after school activities had been canceled. It made me think, we never canceled football practice for a little rain or even snow. The only time practice was canceled was if school was canceled. Lack of funding also goes to the ability to hire and retain qualified coaches, having enough equipment and a decent developmental program.

At some of the schools coaching positions have been a revolving door. Teachers have taken coaching jobs for the extra money and then decided they really weren't interested. It's happened in every sport, at all three public high school. Again, when I was in high school that wasn't a problem because the coaches almost always were in the PE department.
Then yoiu have the problem of athletic directors playing games, petty power plays and favoritism.

Last but not least is transportation. If a kid can't get a ride to/from practice it precludes them from playing. How many kids might want to play a sport but have to take the bus home because there is nobody to pick them up at school when practice is over. Or there is nobody to give them a ride on Saturday.

A lot of good reason why were mentioned in this thread. But the last one above me is the main one.

I use to play for the football team back in 2000 in my freshman year. The coaching staff excepts everyone who signs up to know the fundamentals already. Yes, it is true to a degree that most who singed up to play should know or played some football before. But, even some don't have the basic skills of tackling, footwork, drop-backs, and so on..They emphasized from day one more about their bland plays then the basics of the game. They don't start out small then build there way up.

Another thing that they don't really care that much at the end of the day. It's hard these days to find someone who wants to put all there time into some kids to win some football games for a community; school. If the money ain't there, why go all out?

For the most part about the talent being within the school but kids not eligible is true. But, what can someone really do? Everyone comes from a different background and environment. I know back in 2000 there was a lot of kids are age who could be starters on the team but no one wasn't in their corner telling them "to go play for the team". They're parents weren't doing it and surely the coaches weren't.

One thing, I did hated on the team was the coach (you know who they are) had they're favorite students and bent over for them. Others got jealous or didn't go all out because they got special favors and they weren't even all that.

Overall, it's just pure laziness at the end of the day. Am sure, if someone really fully out cared about the standing of the football team, GM could at least win SMAC and go beyond within 2-3 years.

But, as for me, no one will ever see me attending a GM's game until they do a 180.

P.S. Them clowns still jacking the Green Bay Packers. It's 2008 change the uni's already, smh.

3 seasons ago, 2005, they only had 4 players who had played football all 4 years. Even with the transient population due to close proximity to the base, that number is woefully inadequate. You need at least 12-18 kids playing together all 4 years to have a shot at a decent season record wise.

North point just joined the league and are cleaning up. Shows that fielding a winner can be done in a short amount of time.

I think this thread is a great first step in getting Great Mills back on track. It shows somebody cares. School pride doesn't come from just the end of a pen or pencil, kids walk taller and try harder when they feel they are part of a winning team. Athletics help do that.
It is self perpetuating, when you have a winning team they seem to do well year after year.
It's not only the coaches, but the talent pool, parents and facilities here in St.Marys. There are only so many kids willing to put the hard work in to become a football player, much less parents willing to do the really hard work - support them and encourage them to be proud of the sacrifices they are making. There are at present two leagues (another forming), AAU teams and private schools, enticing the better players with scholarships, all competing for the same players.
Facilities? I've seen community pools with a better training room.
What will it take?
First, I would like to see an effort by alumni and supporters to get together and see if anybody has an interest in helping out, maybe over a few friendly beers.
Second, ask the coaches if they need anything. We are supposed to be helping the team, it's their team. I've never seen a booster in the local paper being vilified because the team lost.
Thirdly, upgrade the athletic department from money raised in the community according to the coaches criteria.
If you have a program that offers more than the youth football leagues, more than the private schools, you will attract the talent to win, which will attract more sponsors, and like a circle: more equipment and better trained players.
One thing - you can't buy a winners - look at the Army's multi million dollar attempt to beat anybody, even Navy, has been a resounding thud.
:buddies:

One of my coworkers is a football coach at GMHS, he mentioned their current record at our staff meeting and one of our secretaries offered him a position to help teach on her cheer leading squad because they have a better win record during competitions. Took about an hour for the blood to clear from his face!!! :killingme

GM needs another coach Period, Grif has had his chance, he has got to go.

There are absolutly no FUNDEMENTALS being taught. this is directly Grif's fault.

Good players are made, you don't sit around hoping 10 good players show up in the same year.

The biggest muscle required from the start is the heart, a good coach will develope the rest.

Players need to hit the weight room HARD !!!!!! all summer long. this is something that has not been manditory for some 10 years. The weight room has been neglected for over 10 years now. You can't win if your being knocked around the field like rag dolls. All your doing is sending the boys out to get hurt.

These kids should be squating 650-750lbs, but now they are only benching 150. If they had white uniforms theyd be a team of marshmellow kids.

forget the "G" on the helmet. The hornet needs to go back on the helmet, and they need to bring back the old cow bell marching cadence for the band that fires up the crowd.

BTW: the boosters had to write and get permission from Green Bay Packers to be able to use that logo and Grif booted it like it didn't mean anything. A coach that does not honor the teams heritage cares nothing for the team itself.

Went to a bunch of games at GMHS this year and noticed a couple of things:
The varsity and freshman teams were sorely lacking in discipline. Take a look at any team's defense and running game: the more you follow your blocks, blocking assignments and stay home as a defensive player the better off your team will be.
The JV on the other hand looks to be a power to be reckoned with next year.
They run well, swarm to the ball and stick together, they have consistency and discipline - good for them!
This is the head coach's fourth year (I have been told), this should be the turning point in the program because the kids getting on varsity have been learning his playbook since they were freshman and should have it down pat next year. I have also heard that the much maligned AD is stepping down this year, which according to more than one parent, may make a big difference.
A few other things I have noticed, I don't see any more discipline problems at GMHS reported, than at the other two high schools in St.Marys. I understand that the coaches called [B]54[B] kids at the beginning of the year and told them not to report because of their grades, they should be commended, not scorned, the grades are the kids problem.
Mentoring? One of the Engineering firms offered to hold study hall so the kids who were having a hard time with physics could get better grades!
I'm surprised none has taken offense to the statement about Chopticon being a lame football team. The last I saw, they were in the running to go to the semi finals in SMAC, (that was to be determined last weekend). Those guys are BIG, disciplined and (hate to say it) good.
Leonardtown believes they have a top coach and a self made reputation that they are the best. Their record? Last I looked I believe they may have actually won two or three games. This is the best?
I don't think the "G" makes a big difference, but it is a tradition, and there aren't many around any more.
Brings up the question: what does the team need? Talent, discipline and coaches who teach the basics.
Since it starts with the coaches, I think we should send them to a coaching camp where they can get pointers and learn new techniques, fund raiser anyone? Oh that's right there aren't enough boosters because the parents don't give a ****.
:popcorn:

I have to comment on the parent thing...for the last two years my family and I have been to 20 games. Yes, 0-20 to watch my son play for GMHS. We were in the rain and cold ~ but there to support the team, not jsut our son. As well as other parents, sometimes we (parents) were the only ones at the games (with a few others who may come to watch). When you have a student body who want even cheer for them at Homecoming or even teachers who want come to the games, btw I never saw the principal at a game at all this year. So before you say the parents don't give a *** you need to look at the rest of the school. We (parents) support our kids, maybe you need to come out and support in some way. Coaching, Selling candy or just being at the game. Yes, things need to change!

Boosters (alumni and parent support group) are very limited in what they can do per SMCPS rules. A lot of those rules were put into place to stop allegations of unfair treatment (funding) of other schools. SMCPS does not want it to appear that one school got more money then another.

While there are youth sports in the county, they are not a feeder system. Teaching quality varies from sport to sport and team to team. Players don't play together and with the same "system" as the high school uses. In some cases a lot of "reteaching" is required.
The one thing I've witnessed with some of the youth sports is that they teach bad habits. If it's true that you play like you practice then they were teams with disrepectful players. Players who traded sound, fundemental play in for Sports Center highlights. Overal a lack of a work ethic.

I am a football coach at Great Mills and feel that this is a attack on the program in general. Many of you are misinformed about what goes on during our practices and off season. I know that we work on techniques everyday in practice on the varsity. We have a 50 minute time period in which we work on skill and techniques as well as blocking and routes for plays. It angers me to think some people would actually think that coaches are not preparing their players for a game. You have to realize that the pat two season we have only be able to have one day of two a day practices due to teachers having to go back to school earlier. WE have not been allowed like other schools to practice under the lights in order to have two practice sessions. Those of you who played football in high school know that most of your techniques are taught during that time period so we are behind from the beginning. We do our very best to get those techniques taught in a short period because we have a scrimmage in less then a week after our first practice. I also think that it is ridiculous that people down grade coaches and individual players on this forum. For instances saying the Qb averaged 4 interceptions a game, If that person had actually attended the games, they would realize that over half the interceptions thrown either went off a receivers hands or through them. I know that a lot of you look at our record on the field, but you don't look at what we do off the field. In the last three years we have gotten over 20 student athletes into college four of which went on athletic scholarship. Our coaches have driven all over the eastern seaboard taking kids to visit colleges because their parents were unable to, and this was paid for out of the coaches own pocket. Many of you also have to look at how many returning starters we had on this team this year. We had one returner on offense and two on defense. We only graduate a total of six starters this season. Yes I know that we have a lot to work on but have a good nucleus coming back with a good J.V. team coming up that will mix in and make an immediate impact. many of you down grade the coaches, in their defense they are the ones that have taken the time to come out and coach these young men and one young lady. For those of you I say if you think that you can help or do a better job than these gentlemen feel free to come to the school and talk to me about being on the staff. I will more than happily give you the chance to become a member of the staff so you can see what we do. I spend more time with these young men than I do with my own children. You have to understand some of the circumstances that we deal with everyday. We are the only county in the state that requires our incoming 9th graders to have a 2.0 gpa other counties they can play with no gpa for the first quarter. We constantly have students and faculty tell our kids they suck. We have parents talking bad about the coaches and players in the stands. We have two private school that are taking players from our school specifically 9th graders. As for the comments about what e do in the off season. We run the weight room starting as soon as we get back from winter break and that goes until the end of the school year. i give the guys a two week break and then we get back to work until the beginning of august. However the problem is that we have a number of our athletes play other sports. Also the higher ups in the county now require anyone participating in off season workouts be eligible as well as have a current physical. We even hae a study hall before lifting, however if the kid is not eligible he can not attend because this part of our off season program. So see it is not just the coaches or the kids there are other outside forces that are hurting us. Believe me we could have an offensive line that would average 300lbs across but they don't get the grades. As they say you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. I know that we did not play well this year and believe me it is not because the coaches and players were not prepared. As some of you know the speed between varsity and JV is a lot different and when you have a young team(26 juniors and 1 Freshmen) you are going to have mistakes and that is what we had a lot of. As for our best players sitting the bench. We give our players every opportunity to make the starting line up, but when they do not put forth the effort in practice how can we put them in the game. That brings me to the not giving another quarterback a chance. Well if you were at the chopticon game you got the chance to see other quarterbacks when Jenner got hurt. One of our back ups missed 5 games due to injury and our other back up was our middle line backer. Believe me everyone of those young man got a shot to win the position in the pre season and Jenner was the one that won the job. Now if someone comes in next year and does a better job than he does in the pre season then they will get the starting job. I am really sick and tired of hearing all these people complain about everything we as a coaching staff do, so why don;t some of you give up your evenings and weekends and get out there and help out. If not then just sit your rear ends on the coach and quit complaining. I would more than happily go home every afternoon and spend time with my kids. I coach not for the victories but to help these young people become better citizens and to give them a chance to better themselves.

Is your name in the NFL? If the coaches were great they'd be alot better. :shrug:



Sock girl, no offense, you are probably a good person at heart, but this debate does not include you. Thanks.

Panther

GM needs another coach Period, Grif has had his chance, he has got to go.

There are absolutly no FUNDEMENTALS being taught. this is directly Grif's fault.

Good players are made, you don't sit around hoping 10 good players show up in the same year.

The biggest muscle required from the start is the heart, a good coach will develope the rest.

Players need to hit the weight room HARD !!!!!! all summer long. this is something that has not been manditory for some 10 years. The weight room has been neglected for over 10 years now. You can't win if your being knocked around the field like rag dolls. All your doing is sending the boys out to get hurt.

These kids should be squating 650-750lbs, but now they are only benching 150. If they had white uniforms theyd be a team of marshmellow kids.

forget the "G" on the helmet. The hornet needs to go back on the helmet, and they need to bring back the old cow bell marching cadence for the band that fires up the crowd.

BTW: the boosters had to write and get permission from Green Bay Packers to be able to use that logo and Grif booted it like it didn't mean anything. A coach that does not honor the teams heritage cares nothing for the team itself.




Wow, you may need to meet with Coach griff and really tell him how you feel. Too much of this unvented hostility can cause ulcers, mental disease, and erectile dysfunctions. Also, "absolutely no fundamentals are being taught" could actually that "you have no clue about practices, game preparations, and other things unless you are there and present"...which you are not because parents and gawkers are not allowed at practices from what I heard. And you of course are there at the school 24/7 and know it all.

Panther

I am a football coach at Great Mills and feel that this is a attack on the program in general. Many of you are misinformed about what goes on during our practices and off season. I know that we work on techniques everyday in practice on the varsity. We have a 50 minute time period in which we work on skill and techniques as well as blocking and routes for plays. It angers me to think some people would actually think that coaches are not preparing their players for a game. You have to realize that the pat two season we have only be able to have one day of two a day practices due to teachers having to go back to school earlier. WE have not been allowed like other schools to practice under the lights in order to have two practice sessions. Those of you who played football in high school know that most of your techniques are taught during that time period so we are behind from the beginning. We do our very best to get those techniques taught in a short period because we have a scrimmage in less then a week after our first practice. I also think that it is ridiculous that people down grade coaches and individual players on this forum. For instances saying the Qb averaged 4 interceptions a game, If that person had actually attended the games, they would realize that over half the interceptions thrown either went off a receivers hands or through them. I know that a lot of you look at our record on the field, but you don't look at what we do off the field. In the last three years we have gotten over 20 student athletes into college four of which went on athletic scholarship. Our coaches have driven all over the eastern seaboard taking kids to visit colleges because their parents were unable to, and this was paid for out of the coaches own pocket. Many of you also have to look at how many returning starters we had on this team this year. We had one returner on offense and two on defense. We only graduate a total of six starters this season. Yes I know that we have a lot to work on but have a good nucleus coming back with a good J.V. team coming up that will mix in and make an immediate impact. many of you down grade the coaches, in their defense they are the ones that have taken the time to come out and coach these young men and one young lady. For those of you I say if you think that you can help or do a better job than these gentlemen feel free to come to the school and talk to me about being on the staff. I will more than happily give you the chance to become a member of the staff so you can see what we do. I spend more time with these young men than I do with my own children. You have to understand some of the circumstances that we deal with everyday. We are the only county in the state that requires our incoming 9th graders to have a 2.0 gpa other counties they can play with no gpa for the first quarter. We constantly have students and faculty tell our kids they suck. We have parents talking bad about the coaches and players in the stands. We have two private school that are taking players from our school specifically 9th graders. As for the comments about what e do in the off season. We run the weight room starting as soon as we get back from winter break and that goes until the end of the school year. i give the guys a two week break and then we get back to work until the beginning of august. However the problem is that we have a number of our athletes play other sports. Also the higher ups in the county now require anyone participating in off season workouts be eligible as well as have a current physical. We even hae a study hall before lifting, however if the kid is not eligible he can not attend because this part of our off season program. So see it is not just the coaches or the kids there are other outside forces that are hurting us. Believe me we could have an offensive line that would average 300lbs across but they don't get the grades. As they say you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. I know that we did not play well this year and believe me it is not because the coaches and players were not prepared. As some of you know the speed between varsity and JV is a lot different and when you have a young team(26 juniors and 1 Freshmen) you are going to have mistakes and that is what we had a lot of. As for our best players sitting the bench. We give our players every opportunity to make the starting line up, but when they do not put forth the effort in practice how can we put them in the game. That brings me to the not giving another quarterback a chance. Well if you were at the chopticon game you got the chance to see other quarterbacks when Jenner got hurt. One of our back ups missed 5 games due to injury and our other back up was our middle line backer. Believe me everyone of those young man got a shot to win the position in the pre season and Jenner was the one that won the job. Now if someone comes in next year and does a better job than he does in the pre season then they will get the starting job. I am really sick and tired of hearing all these people complain about everything we as a coaching staff do, so why don;t some of you give up your evenings and weekends and get out there and help out. If not then just sit your rear ends on the coach and quit complaining. I would more than happily go home every afternoon and spend time with my kids. I coach not for the victories but to help these young people become better citizens and to give them a chance to better themselves.



Great explanation. Almost enough said, I would have concluded with this:

"Help out or shut the h@ll up"

Panther

Wow, you may need to meet with Coach griff and really tell him how you feel. Too much of this unvented hostility can cause ulcers, mental disease, and erectile dysfunctions. Also, "absolutely no fundamentals are being taught" could actually that "you have no clue about practices, game preparations, and other things unless you are there and present"...which you are not because parents and gawkers are not allowed at practices from what I heard. And you of course are there at the school 24/7 and know it all.

Panther

Actually you can tell on game day that fundamentals are not stressed in practice.

I am a football coach at Great Mills and feel that this is a attack on the program in general. Many of you are misinformed about what goes on during our practices and off season. I know that we work on techniques everyday in practice on the varsity. We have a 50 minute time period in which we work on skill and techniques as well as blocking and routes for plays. It angers me to think some people would actually think that coaches are not preparing their players for a game. You have to realize that the pat two season we have only be able to have one day of two a day practices due to teachers having to go back to school earlier. WE have not been allowed like other schools to practice under the lights in order to have two practice sessions. Those of you who played football in high school know that most of your techniques are taught during that time period so we are behind from the beginning. We do our very best to get those techniques taught in a short period because we have a scrimmage in less then a week after our first practice. I also think that it is ridiculous that people down grade coaches and individual players on this forum. For instances saying the Qb averaged 4 interceptions a game, If that person had actually attended the games, they would realize that over half the interceptions thrown either went off a receivers hands or through them. I know that a lot of you look at our record on the field, but you don't look at what we do off the field. In the last three years we have gotten over 20 student athletes into college four of which went on athletic scholarship. Our coaches have driven all over the eastern seaboard taking kids to visit colleges because their parents were unable to, and this was paid for out of the coaches own pocket. Many of you also have to look at how many returning starters we had on this team this year. We had one returner on offense and two on defense. We only graduate a total of six starters this season. Yes I know that we have a lot to work on but have a good nucleus coming back with a good J.V. team coming up that will mix in and make an immediate impact. many of you down grade the coaches, in their defense they are the ones that have taken the time to come out and coach these young men and one young lady. For those of you I say if you think that you can help or do a better job than these gentlemen feel free to come to the school and talk to me about being on the staff. I will more than happily give you the chance to become a member of the staff so you can see what we do. I spend more time with these young men than I do with my own children. You have to understand some of the circumstances that we deal with everyday. We are the only county in the state that requires our incoming 9th graders to have a 2.0 gpa other counties they can play with no gpa for the first quarter. We constantly have students and faculty tell our kids they suck. We have parents talking bad about the coaches and players in the stands. We have two private school that are taking players from our school specifically 9th graders. As for the comments about what e do in the off season. We run the weight room starting as soon as we get back from winter break and that goes until the end of the school year. i give the guys a two week break and then we get back to work until the beginning of august. However the problem is that we have a number of our athletes play other sports. Also the higher ups in the county now require anyone participating in off season workouts be eligible as well as have a current physical. We even hae a study hall before lifting, however if the kid is not eligible he can not attend because this part of our off season program. So see it is not just the coaches or the kids there are other outside forces that are hurting us. Believe me we could have an offensive line that would average 300lbs across but they don't get the grades. As they say you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. I know that we did not play well this year and believe me it is not because the coaches and players were not prepared. As some of you know the speed between varsity and JV is a lot different and when you have a young team(26 juniors and 1 Freshmen) you are going to have mistakes and that is what we had a lot of. As for our best players sitting the bench. We give our players every opportunity to make the starting line up, but when they do not put forth the effort in practice how can we put them in the game. That brings me to the not giving another quarterback a chance. Well if you were at the chopticon game you got the chance to see other quarterbacks when Jenner got hurt. One of our back ups missed 5 games due to injury and our other back up was our middle line backer. Believe me everyone of those young man got a shot to win the position in the pre season and Jenner was the one that won the job. Now if someone comes in next year and does a better job than he does in the pre season then they will get the starting job. I am really sick and tired of hearing all these people complain about everything we as a coaching staff do, so why don;t some of you give up your evenings and weekends and get out there and help out. If not then just sit your rear ends on the coach and quit complaining. I would more than happily go home every afternoon and spend time with my kids. I coach not for the victories but to help these young people become better citizens and to give them a chance to better themselves.


Chopticon and Leonardtown face the same challenges as Great Mills as far as time, etc and both those teams are miles ahead of Great Mills fundamentally. Good coaches find solutions to the challenges and adapt not use them as a crutch. The last two years the teams have not been even competitive with the rest of the league. High school is not all about the wins and loses but about teaching the game. The wins will follow once the game is taught properly. It appears that 50 minutes a day on fundamentals is not nearly enough or maybe they need new teachers.

sounds like its getting real deep. GMHS would probaly like to have some volunteer help. All you gotta do is go by and ask

I am a football coach at Great Mills and feel that this is a attack on the program in general. Many of you are misinformed about what goes on during our practices and off season. I know that we work on techniques everyday in practice on the varsity. We have a 50 minute time period in which we work on skill and techniques as well as blocking and routes for plays. It angers me to think some people would actually think that coaches are not preparing their players for a game. You have to realize that the pat two season we have only be able to have one day of two a day practices due to teachers having to go back to school earlier. WE have not been allowed like other schools to practice under the lights in order to have two practice sessions. Those of you who played football in high school know that most of your techniques are taught during that time period so we are behind from the beginning. We do our very best to get those techniques taught in a short period because we have a scrimmage in less then a week after our first practice. I also think that it is ridiculous that people down grade coaches and individual players on this forum. For instances saying the Qb averaged 4 interceptions a game, If that person had actually attended the games, they would realize that over half the interceptions thrown either went off a receivers hands or through them. I know that a lot of you look at our record on the field, but you don't look at what we do off the field. In the last three years we have gotten over 20 student athletes into college four of which went on athletic scholarship. Our coaches have driven all over the eastern seaboard taking kids to visit colleges because their parents were unable to, and this was paid for out of the coaches own pocket. Many of you also have to look at how many returning starters we had on this team this year. We had one returner on offense and two on defense. We only graduate a total of six starters this season. Yes I know that we have a lot to work on but have a good nucleus coming back with a good J.V. team coming up that will mix in and make an immediate impact. many of you down grade the coaches, in their defense they are the ones that have taken the time to come out and coach these young men and one young lady. For those of you I say if you think that you can help or do a better job than these gentlemen feel free to come to the school and talk to me about being on the staff. I will more than happily give you the chance to become a member of the staff so you can see what we do. I spend more time with these young men than I do with my own children. You have to understand some of the circumstances that we deal with everyday. We are the only county in the state that requires our incoming 9th graders to have a 2.0 gpa other counties they can play with no gpa for the first quarter. We constantly have students and faculty tell our kids they suck. We have parents talking bad about the coaches and players in the stands. We have two private school that are taking players from our school specifically 9th graders. As for the comments about what e do in the off season. We run the weight room starting as soon as we get back from winter break and that goes until the end of the school year. i give the guys a two week break and then we get back to work until the beginning of august. However the problem is that we have a number of our athletes play other sports. Also the higher ups in the county now require anyone participating in off season workouts be eligible as well as have a current physical. We even hae a study hall before lifting, however if the kid is not eligible he can not attend because this part of our off season program. So see it is not just the coaches or the kids there are other outside forces that are hurting us. Believe me we could have an offensive line that would average 300lbs across but they don't get the grades. As they say you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. I know that we did not play well this year and believe me it is not because the coaches and players were not prepared. As some of you know the speed between varsity and JV is a lot different and when you have a young team(26 juniors and 1 Freshmen) you are going to have mistakes and that is what we had a lot of. As for our best players sitting the bench. We give our players every opportunity to make the starting line up, but when they do not put forth the effort in practice how can we put them in the game. That brings me to the not giving another quarterback a chance. Well if you were at the chopticon game you got the chance to see other quarterbacks when Jenner got hurt. One of our back ups missed 5 games due to injury and our other back up was our middle line backer. Believe me everyone of those young man got a shot to win the position in the pre season and Jenner was the one that won the job. Now if someone comes in next year and does a better job than he does in the pre season then they will get the starting job. I am really sick and tired of hearing all these people complain about everything we as a coaching staff do, so why don;t some of you give up your evenings and weekends and get out there and help out. If not then just sit your rear ends on the coach and quit complaining. I would more than happily go home every afternoon and spend time with my kids. I coach not for the victories but to help these young people become better citizens and to give them a chance to better themselves.

Thanks coach for your time and guidance to the team. Maybe people don't see or care more than the 'won - lost' column. Unfortunately that's what counts for most.
I can tell you that my son thinks the players let the team down, not the coaches. Then what does he know, he's been playing for ten years on eight different teams.
The JV moving up next year should really open some eyes to the program.
As far as parents and involvement goes, I attended at least 8 - 10 games and saw the same parents volunteering, providing snacks and sitting in the stands. There were at least 75 - 100 kids on all three squads, where were the other parents?
The team moms should be given medals for all the work they did asking people to help.
Thanks.
:yay:

Oh Please cry me a river !!!!!!!!

No one is bashing the kids and no one is saying that the coaches aren't the most caring and dedicated, but when it comes to coaching they stink.

We could put ten thousand parents in the stands and the coaches would still call a bad game. -please stop comparing apples to oranges.

Take the Leonardtown game for example.
Mikey Copenhaver threw the ball three times the whole game in his QB debut. Where were the adjustments after he kept outrunning GM to the outside? Why were we not forcing him to throw? What is the #1 rule to do to an inexperienced QB? PREASURE!!!!!!!!

Leonardtown was laughing at us because their entire game plan was to give it to Mike and if GM keyed on him he was to shuttle it off. If they didn't key on him he was to hit any hole available. We could not even stop an entire game with practically the same play.

In no other season did GM give up so many points. Granted the points they did score was enough to win but not when the defense gives up 40 -50 points by halftime and most of the points we did score were against 3-4th string.

If we played against the first string at full throttle for 48 minutes every game we would have lost 5-6 games by 100 points or more.

Our corners never downfield block, the line had their hands on their hips sucking air before the plays were even over. Last year the QB threw his helmet on the sideline, something a disciplined player would never do. We weren't even aloud to turn and face the bleachers

I can tell where the ball is going just by watching where the QB is looking. The WR's run slightly faster when it’s a pass and they ditch the route too early on runs

Take our own play calling. We line up in the "I" and get 9 yards, next play in "I" formation 14 yards then we switch to the shot gun and shoot ourselves in the foot. What’s the #1 rule in play calling "when you find a play they can't stop you run it or variations of it until they do"

Griff and the entire staff may be the best people in the world but they
"CAN'T COACH"

Please Tracy if you can't fire him, let me treat him to lunch.

Oh Please cry me a river !!!!!!!!

No one is bashing the kids and no one is saying that the coaches aren't the most caring and dedicated, but when it comes to coaching they stink.

We could put ten thousand parents in the stands and the coaches would still call a bad game. -please stop comparing apples to oranges.

Take the Leonardtown game for example.
Mikey Copenhaver threw the ball three times the whole game in his QB debut. Where were the adjustments after he kept outrunning GM to the outside? Why were we not forcing him to throw? What is the #1 rule to do to an inexperienced QB? PREASURE!!!!!!!!

Leonardtown was laughing at us because their entire game plan was to give it to Mike and if GM keyed on him he was to shuttle it off. If they didn't key on him he was to hit any hole available. We could not even stop an entire game with practically the same play.

In no other season did GM give up so many points. Granted the points they did score was enough to win but not when the defense gives up 40 -50 points by halftime and most of the points we did score were against 3-4th string.

If we played against the first string at full throttle for 48 minutes every game we would have lost 5-6 games by 100 points or more.

Our corners never downfield block, the line had their hands on their hips sucking air before the plays were even over. Last year the QB threw his helmet on the sideline, something a disciplined player would never do. We weren't even aloud to turn and face the bleachers

I can tell where the ball is going just by watching where the QB is looking. The WR's run slightly faster when it’s a pass and they ditch the route too early on runs

Take our own play calling. We line up in the "I" and get 9 yards, next play in "I" formation 14 yards then we switch to the shot gun and shoot ourselves in the foot. What’s the #1 rule in play calling "when you find a play they can't stop you run it or variations of it until they do"

Griff and the entire staff may be the best people in the world but they
"CAN'T COACH"

Please Tracy if you can't fire him, let me treat him to lunch.


Dude, you are identifying too much with people, so you are were either a benchwarmer who never got playing time and is trying to relive his youth or your son who is definitely on the team (varsity) does not have the physical tools or the mental acument to tackle a dead dog and you are trying to blame the coaches. As for saying "Mike", why don't you adopt the kid. Oh, and by the way, Leonardtown did beat Great Mills but they got definitely whored out by Westlake and just about every other Charles County team. You using Leonardtown as a focal point on any winning situation is like saying you actually have some knowledge of the game. Several years back, Great Mills won the County Cup by defeating Chopticon and Leonardtown. Chopticon has definitely won the award several times, but Leonardtown has not. So I suggest that you move your sorry a@s to the Leonardtown district so your child can play for Larnerd. As for Tracey, she would not give you the time of day because obviously you have some mental defects. Last, I know several of the football coaches at Great Mills as I coach basketball in another county, try saying this stuff to their faces. You are entitled to a opinion so therefore they would certainly "treat" your sorry a@s to lunch.

Panther

Dude, you are identifying too much with people, so you are were either a benchwarmer who never got playing time and is trying to relive his youth or your son who is definitely on the team (varsity) does not have the physical tools or the mental acument to tackle a dead dog and you are trying to blame the coaches. As for saying "Mike", why don't you adopt the kid. Oh, and by the way, Leonardtown did beat Great Mills but they got definitely whored out by Westlake and just about every other Charles County team. You using Leonardtown as a focal point on any winning situation is like saying you actually have some knowledge of the game. Several years back, Great Mills won the County Cup by defeating Chopticon and Leonardtown. Chopticon has definitely won the award several times, but Leonardtown has not. So I suggest that you move your sorry a@s to the Leonardtown district so your child can play for Larnerd. As for Tracey, she would not give you the time of day because obviously you have some mental defects. Last, I know several of the football coaches at Great Mills as I coach basketball in another county, try saying this stuff to their faces. You are entitled to a opinion so therefore they would certainly "treat" your sorry a@s to lunch.

Panther

Observer could have used any of the last 20 games as a focal point. But they obviously chose to make a point using the only game that GMHS probably had a chance to win as an example. As far as using personal attacks on someone who differs from your point of view to argue a position you are ill equipped to engage in shows just how your mind works. It is also a defense mechanisim for those who can only launch into either excuse making or use a blame others approach when they are in over their head. It is also a typical tactic of a loser.

As far as blaming the coaches, the proof is in the results. I am going to quote a famous person that sums up the end result in the program and Panther is you guess who said it I will forgive one of the two house payments you owe me about the 20 game losing streak in GM Football history:

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

How would coaching basketball in another county mean you know many of the football coaches? My guess is you attempt to coach football at Great Mills as well as coach basketball in another county. Perhaps in Calvert? I read about a guy who was coaching at St Marys College, Patuxent HS and Great Mills during a school year. Maybe you are that "dude"

And what is up with calling everyone "Dude"? Any chance you are still toking up or maybe you are just a misguided Hawaiian surfer.

If you can't take the heat, stay off the sidelines.

Observer could have used any of the last 20 games as a focal point. But they obviously chose to make a point using the only game that GMHS probably had a chance to win as an example. As far as using personal attacks on someone who differs from your point of view to argue a position you are ill equipped to engage in shows just how your mind works. It is also a defense mechanisim for those who can only launch into either excuse making or use a blame others approach when they are in over their head. It is also a typical tactic of a loser.

As far as blaming the coaches, the proof is in the results. I am going to quote a famous person that sums up the end result in the program and Panther is you guess who said it I will forgive one of the two house payments you owe me about the 20 game losing streak in GM Football history:

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

How would coaching basketball in another county mean you know many of the football coaches? My guess is you attempt to coach football at Great Mills as well as coach basketball in another county. Perhaps in Calvert? I read about a guy who was coaching at St Marys College, Patuxent HS and Great Mills during a school year. Maybe you are that "dude"

And what is up with calling everyone "Dude"? Any chance you are still toking up or maybe you are just a misguided Hawaiian surfer.

If you can't take the heat, stay off the sidelines.




Dude Budman,

I am getting to really like ya, as for the heat comment, that was priceless. Since these forums were brought to the mainstream, the many coaches at the Mill were trying to figure out who these no name people are, we pretty much know some of them and what I really figured out is that we are giving you all a voice by responding to these comments. I personally think they all have been funny and not taking anything personal from them. Just people venting about high school football pretty much tells the passion of the people making the comments and the people responding. So I surmise one thing:

Dude, if it is who I think it is. Stick with Pop Warner football and if I am really from Hawaii, I can take the heat. If you think you know who I really am, I can take it, dish it, and throw it down because in the end, we all are in a position that you really want and covet and will never have and that is being a football coach at Great Mills, your beloved alma mater. Live with your memories and we will create our own no matter how long that takes. You seriously need to move on, dude.

Panther lives on! Have fun with future posts, this is taking too much time in my life and I am much too busy.

Budman- have a Bud on me

GMHS Athletics are going to go down the crapper all around next year when they are in 4A...

Dude, you are identifying too much with people, so you are were either a benchwarmer who never got playing time and is trying to relive his youth or your son who is definitely on the team (varsity) does not have the physical tools or the mental acument to tackle a dead dog and you are trying to blame the coaches. As for saying "Mike", why don't you adopt the kid. Oh, and by the way, Leonardtown did beat Great Mills but they got definitely whored out by Westlake and just about every other Charles County team. You using Leonardtown as a focal point on any winning situation is like saying you actually have some knowledge of the game. Several years back, Great Mills won the County Cup by defeating Chopticon and Leonardtown. Chopticon has definitely won the award several times, but Leonardtown has not. So I suggest that you move your sorry a@s to the Leonardtown district so your child can play for Larnerd. As for Tracey, she would not give you the time of day because obviously you have some mental defects. Last, I know several of the football coaches at Great Mills as I coach basketball in another county, try saying this stuff to their faces. You are entitled to a opinion so therefore they would certainly "treat" your sorry a@s to lunch.

Panther


Dude I am oh so closer then you realize, just up in the stands warming the bench. I do not have a child old enough to be playing. That does not negate my right to an opinion I do not know alot about football and that is my argument, If I can see the breakdowns with my uneducated eyes than it only takes half a coach to exploit what I can see for myself. If I thought for a minute I could do better I would try, but if you are asking if I could match the losing record of 0-20 yes I could be the coach. Heck I could match the record and never leave my house or hold a practice. Heck to "achieve" an 0-20 record why don't we save some money and not have a coach at all, because right now we are not at the bottom the bottom is on top of us. GM used to be a powerhouse in SMAC and it's not because we had better kids back then.

Dude Budman,

I am getting to really like ya, as for the heat comment, that was priceless. Since these forums were brought to the mainstream, the many coaches at the Mill were trying to figure out who these no name people are, we pretty much know some of them and what I really figured out is that we are giving you all a voice by responding to these comments. I personally think they all have been funny and not taking anything personal from them. Just people venting about high school football pretty much tells the passion of the people making the comments and the people responding. So I surmise one thing:

Dude, if it is who I think it is. Stick with Pop Warner football and if I am really from Hawaii, I can take the heat. If you think you know who I really am, I can take it, dish it, and throw it down because in the end, we all are in a position that you really want and covet and will never have and that is being a football coach at Great Mills, your beloved alma mater. Live with your memories and we will create our own no matter how long that takes. You seriously need to move on, dude.

Panther lives on! Have fun with future posts, this is taking too much time in my life and I am much too busy.

Budman- have a Bud on me

So Panther the school system now allows staff to post on forums like this during school hours? I would think your taxpayer funded computer and its use would be restricted to educational pursuits. I guess the school system IT policy is much less restrictive than mine with the DoD. Maybe you were on leave.

Well we can now establish 2 things that a book can be written about what you don't know. One is football coaching and two is knowing me. I guarantee we have never met nor have I ever met any of the people on staff at the school. You are right about one thing my passion for football. Where I come
from the football staff would have been replaced long ago. Have you ever watched a high school football game in Pennsylvania? You should. Can you give me the contact information for the Pop Warner league? I am glad to know there is one in the county. At least you were able to teach me something today.

I would suspect that you did not figure out about giving people a voice by responding on here but were told that as well as advised to stop responding. You sure did reverse course from attacking people posting to saying that you thought the posts were funny and had no problem with them. You made some very personal attacks on people and now you soften the talk.

I can live quite fondly with my memories, I just hope the kids at Great Mills will someday have the opportunity to create their own special memories on the field by contending for a title one day. But to do that the football staff will need to move on. Remember any kid only has a maximum of 4 years to create special memories. They do not have time for coaches to learn the game as well.

As far as being able to dish it, take and throw it down it is my experience that if you have to announce that then it probably is not true.

Good luck to your basketball team in another county.

Bumping this up as the football season starts.

If the losing continues dump the coaching staff and AD. Start fresh with proven winners running the show.

The AD, that is the problem with Great Mills football. It was the problem when I was there, and will be the problem until they replace her. She doesn't like football therefore doesn't give the program what it needs. I played my heart and soul out for GMHS, and never complained once. It was ooooohhhhhhhh so obvious looking back at it now though.

In my opinion, GMHS needs to just hit the re-set button. Go back to Hoop's way!!!! POWER I SMASH MOUTH STOMP YOU IN THE GROUND FOOTBALL!!! All this coming from someone who played a little QB at Great Mills!!! Yeah I said it, unless you have that all star gunslinger run the rock and grind out the clock!!!! Hold em with a stout 4-4 defense and dare em to run at you!!!

The fact is things like the Wing T and other misdirection offenses are too complex for kids to learn at the drop of the hat. The reason they are so successful elsewhere is that the kids are introduced to it at an early age. They run the same system from the time they are 6 until they are seniors. It just doesn't work here. Get back to the basics Power I Right 28 Toss Sweep on two, hey Dole do you remember that? Loved it!!!!

Just my two cents - A "team" off-season strength and conditioning program would not only make the players/coaches physically stronger but it would create a bond that would translate to both play on the field and success in the classroom.

Bumping this up as the football season starts.

If the losing continues dump the coaching staff and AD. Start fresh with proven winners running the show.

If you know anything about athletic teams in this county it's that attitude that has kept many of them in the crapper.
It takes time to build a program - be it basketball, football, soccer, lacrosse. You can't keep changing out coaches every year because it kills off seaosn programs.

If you look at the successful programs you will note that the coach is long tenured. They have an offseason program and as kids graduate they are ready to bring in freshman. When their seaosn starts they are prepared to hit the ground running. Not to mention the amount of knowledge they have built up over the years.

But no matter how qualified the coach, you can't hire him or her in June and expect a winner in August.

You also have to take into account the rules governing who gets first shot at these jobs. Your first obstacle is getting the coach hired as a teacher and getting thru the politics of Moakly St. Then you have to retain them, which means paying them and giving them the facilities.
If you've ever been to any of the public high schools in the county you'll note that traing facilities are greatly lacking, in quality, quanity and availability. This inclues a lack of a decent playing surface and practice fields.

You aren't going to get the kids out to raise the level of competition if the team is viewed as a certain loser. When there is turnover at the coaching positions and the facilities are crap it makes it even harder.

Just my two cents - A "team" off-season strength and conditioning program would not only make the players/coaches physically stronger but it would create a bond that would translate to both play on the field and success in the classroom.
My nephew worked his butt off in the summer conditioning this year. He even made it a point to make sure we got home in time from a camping tripp so he would not miss his conditioning. This is his first year playing high school football at GMHS. Thats all he does in his free time is play football with anyonw who will play. His position is wide reciever. I cannot wait to see him on the playing field. I could not be more proud of that boy. He lives in LP and instead of hanging out with trouble making kids, he has devoted his time to playing football and even trying to help the younger boys of the neighborhood with football. Good role model.

GMHS beats Thomas Stone.
Chopticon & Leonardtown Lose.

john duckett was the man....wonder what happened to him

I'd like to know that too. I know that he went to VA Tech but never heard anything after that. I knew a few people that played from 93'-97'. Good teams. :yay:

As far as I could tell (without having to pay to subscribe to any websites) - he had some troubles keeping his grades up at University of Virginia, had to take a few summer classes to get his GPA high enough to play his senior year. He and a few other boys then got in trouble with drinking and fighting around the same period. Then he was drafted around the 2002 season as a Linebacker to the Buffalo Bills and sort of just dropped off the radar at that point. If you want to pay the money - then sign up here

It's a Long Road From the SMAC to the NFL; Duckett, Sanders Get Chance to Play Pro Football - The Washington Post | Encyclopedia.com (http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1P2-363360.html)