Should gay couples be allowed to adopt?

Yes but only as a last resort....

Let me explain. The best environment for a child to be rasied in is a moral one where proper values are taught. A normal family environment is the closest they'll get to this. With this being said though, I think anything is better than being raised in an orphanage so if a suitable heterosexual couple is un available to adopt then let the gays adopt - only as a last resort though.

Sorry in advance if my views offend anyone...

Should gay couples be allowed to adopt?

Sure, they should be allowed to adopt. There are many stray dogs and cats at the shelter that need good homes. I'd say no to kids, for the most part. I agree with Bluebird.

Alot of children need good homes. So why not let them adopt. As long as the children grow up happy I dont care.

why shouldn't they be allowed to adopt? Single parents are allowed to adopt, crazy people are allowed to adopt. Look at what happened to those poor girls that were found in the freezer, that was a heterosexual couple. I believe that as long as the adoptive parents are loving, caring, have the best interest of the child in mind, and are mentally and financially capable of taking care of a child they have every right to adopt.

Homosexuality isn't a disease or disability that impairs one's ability to properly love and raise a healthy, happy child.

Alot of children need good homes. So why not let them adopt. As long as the children grow up happy I dont care.

Define good home?

It's definition is going to be different for everyone, but the foundation of a good home should be based on morals and values. Because of my personal beliefs it's impossible for a gay couple to teach this. Even of they attend church every Sunday it's impossible for them to teach.

Define good home?

It's definition is going to be different for everyone, but the fopundation of a good home should be based on morals and values. Because of my personal beliefs it's impossible for a gay couple to teach this. Even of they attend church every Sunday it's impossible for the to teach.




Has to be better then living in foster care going from house to house. Pretty sure they have been abused and thats why they're in foster care. So what if his/her parents are gay? At least they will have a warm home, love, attention. A place to call home. Either way just way to many children waiting for a place to call home. Gay or not they deserve to be parents who will provide them with a loving home and bright future.

Has to be better then living in foster care going from house to house. Pretty sure they have been abused and thats why they're in foster care. So what if his/her parents are gay? At least they will have a warm home, love, attention. A place to call home. Either way just way to many children waiting for a place to call home. Gay or not they deserve to be parents who will provide them with a loving home and bright future.

We agree on that. Gays should only be considered as a last resort though, I guess this is where we differ.

We agree on that. Gays should only be considered as a last resort though, I guess this is where we differ.


Last resort to whome? A child molester, rapest, ? Just want to know.

Yes, they should be allowed to adopt. All of the gay couples I have met would be better suited to raise children than most hetero couples I know.

Yes, they should be allowed to adopt. All of the gay couples I have met would be better suited to raise children than most hetero couples I know.
I find that just a bit hard to believe.

gays are better suited to raise children? nope cant buy into the propaganda.

Define good home?

It's definition is going to be different for everyone, but the foundation of a good home should be based on morals and values. Because of my personal beliefs it's impossible for a gay couple to teach this. Even of they attend church every Sunday it's impossible for them to teach.


I totally agree with you here BlueBird. I'd definitely think the best possible scenerio is for a kid to be raised by a father and mother. If you had two couples who were willing to adopt the same child, the decision should always be made to give the kid to the normal heterosexual couple. It's just the morally correct thing to do. I'd say let the gays adopt the kids who may be harder to place. In that case, it may be in the better interest of the child.

You and I will take a beating here from the people who don't understand what morals really are. Oh, well. I guess they are entitled to their opinion just like you and me.

I find that just a bit hard to believe.

gays are better suited to raise children? nope cant buy into the propaganda.

Yeah, I don't buy it either. Just doesn't make sense. Then again, you don't have to have sense to be a member of this forum.

I find that just a bit hard to believe.

gays are better suited to raise children? nope cant buy into the propaganda.

Take it into perspective. Each of the people from the gay couples I know work 8-5's and pull in good money. They live in houses with nice yards and in great communities. They attend church, abide by the law, and are clean, healthy individuals.

All of the hetero couples I know that do not already have children are around my age, live in ####ty apartments and can't pull together enough money to do anything but live, eat, and sleep.

All in all, yes, the gay couples I know are better suited to raise children than my hetero friends. In 15-20 years, those circumstances may very well change. But, since there are kids on the street now, why would I have any problem with allowing these children to be taken into a good home filled with love, where their parents can raise them correctly?

I understand that you have a problem with gay people. I understand a majority of the people on this board would rather not see a child raised with them.

But I would much rather see a child raised by two men or women than by Tony Two Fingers, the local crime lord, or be forced into prostitution, drugs, or anything else that doesn't end with "degree from college."

Take it into perspective. Each of the people from the gay couples I know work 8-5's and pull in good money. They live in houses with nice yards and in great communities. They attend church, abide by the law, and are clean, healthy individuals.

All of the hetero couples I know that do not already have children are around my age, live in ####ty apartments and can't pull together enough money to do anything but live, eat, and sleep.

All in all, yes, the gay couples I know are better suited to raise children than my hetero friends. In 15-20 years, those circumstances may very well change. But, since there are kids on the street now, why would I have any problem with allowing these children to be taken into a good home filled with love, where their parents can raise them correctly?

I understand that you have a problem with gay people. I understand a majority of the people on this board would rather not see a child raised with them.

But I would much rather see a child raised by two men or women than by Tony Two Fingers, the local crime lord, or be forced into prostitution, drugs, or anything else that doesn't end with "degree from college."
you must hang around with real scum.
most of the people I know are living in homes that cost over a million, they have great jobs, most of them only the father has to work, the mother does charity and stays home for the kids.
only gays I know of can be found at the adult bookstore in annapolis where they trade aids juice with one another.
and as far as going to church, Im not sure what you mean by that, but if they are going, they are going to a church that either re-wrote the bible, or the congragation is trying to change their evil ways.

but in the end are you suggesting that married people are more likely to be tony two fingers, or that married people force their children into prostitution and drugs? Lets be honest here, did you know that most child molestation cases were Man/Boy? that means what?? you guessed, homosexuals are more likely to molest than straights.

you must hang around with real scum.
most of the people I know are living in homes that cost over a million, they have great jobs, most of them only the father has to work, the mother does charity and stays home for the kids.
only gays I know of can be found at the adult bookstore in annapolis where they trade aids juice with one another.
and as far as going to church, Im not sure what you mean by that, but if they are going, they are going to a church that either re-wrote the bible, or the congragation is trying to change their evil ways.

but in the end are you suggesting that married people are more likely to be tony two fingers, or that married people force their children into prostitution and drugs? Lets be honest here, did you know that most child molestation cases were Man/Boy? that means what?? you guessed, homosexuals are more likely to molest than straights.Interesting....What if the boy's got to the Lesbian couples and the girls go to the Gay men couples? Would that mitigate your concern of sexual abuse? Just a question...:shrug:

They should absolutely be allowed to adopt. I have not heard one good reason why they shouldn't.

Interesting....What if the boy's got to the Lesbian couples and the girls go to the Gay men couples? Would that mitigate your concern of sexual abuse? Just a question...:shrug:
no, I just personally do not think that gay couples are suited for properly raising children. I would have run away and joined the circus or something if I had been raised by a couple of homosexuals.
Friends wouldnt be allowed to come over, I would never want them to show up for parent teacher confrences. It just would have been terrible to be raised by non normal parental units.

you must hang around with real scum.
most of the people I know are living in homes that cost over a million, they have great jobs, most of them only the father has to work, the mother does charity and stays home for the kids.
only gays I know of can be found at the adult bookstore in annapolis where they trade aids juice with one another.
and as far as going to church, Im not sure what you mean by that, but if they are going, they are going to a church that either re-wrote the bible, or the congragation is trying to change their evil ways.

but in the end are you suggesting that married people are more likely to be tony two fingers, or that married people force their children into prostitution and drugs? Lets be honest here, did you know that most child molestation cases were Man/Boy? that means what?? you guessed, homosexuals are more likely to molest than straights.

Nope, you seem to forget I am 23 years old, which means the majority of people I know, my friends, are close to my age and are not well off. Through my participation in GLBT awareness events, I have gotten to know many gay couples that are well off and are interested in adoption. The vast majority of hetero couples I know that -are- well off enough to raise children are not in the slight bit interested in adoption, as they have already had children and are in no need, nor want, of any more.

I would love to see a statistic showing that a majority of child molestation cases are man/boy, and further, take out all the cases that involve priests, pastors, and the like.

As far as churches go, who cares the reasoning behind the motivation of the church to accept people that are currently "condemned to hell"? I am sure you have noted my belief in the church throughout the boards and know that I am a strong advocate of the morale values imprinted in the bible, and as such, any person going to church would instill as much morale as possible in their children and family, irregardless of the actual -faith-.

And to clarify, no I do not believe that the hetero couples are tony two fingers or pimps. What I meant was that having the children in a home, as opposed to orphanages or on the street is a wise choice. I do believe that a child would do equally well in any (hetero or homo) household that has the abilities to raise the child.

Altogether, I doubt that many orphanage children, or children on the street, that still wish to do well in life would care if they were going to a picket fence house inhabited by a straight or gay couple, so long as that couple would be able to supply shelter, food, and love.

And just for clarification, I am quite aware that there are many gay couples that should never ever be allowed to adopt. The same with hetero couples. I believe that there should be much more involvement with assigning parents for these children.

I find that just a bit hard to believe.

gays are better suited to raise children? nope cant buy into the propaganda.
Me either.

I don't think they're better suited just because they're gay.

I think it's great that gay's can adopt though.:yay:

We need more adoption in this country.

why shouldn't they be allowed to adopt? Single parents are allowed to adopt, crazy people are allowed to adopt. Look at what happened to those poor girls that were found in the freezer, that was a heterosexual couple. I believe that as long as the adoptive parents are loving, caring, have the best interest of the child in mind, and are mentally and financially capable of taking care of a child they have every right to adopt.

Homosexuality isn't a disease or disability that impairs one's ability to properly love and raise a healthy, happy child.

I agree :yay:

you guessed, homosexuals are more likely to molest than straights.

Uh, that is not true. Yes, homosexual men are more likely to molest a *boy* child than a hetero man, but it is fairly common for girls to have at least one molester in their past, and that molester is almost exclusively a hetero man and not a homosexual.

And a homosexual man is no more likely to be sexually attracted to his son than his hetero counterpart will be attracted to a daughter. I don't even know what makes people say dumb stuff like this, because there is no evidence of it.

why shouldn't they be allowed to adopt? Single parents are allowed to adopt, crazy people are allowed to adopt. Look at what happened to those poor girls that were found in the freezer, that was a heterosexual couple. I believe that as long as the adoptive parents are loving, caring, have the best interest of the child in mind, and are mentally and financially capable of taking care of a child they have every right to adopt.

Homosexuality isn't a disease or disability that impairs one's ability to properly love and raise a healthy, happy child.



Could not have said it better myself, My mind was TRULY made up after watching that HBO special with the cruise with Rosie O'Donnell, I cant stand her, but the special was a real eye opener, These people(gay couples) showed the most adoration for their kids, and did not care where or what background they came from they just wanted a child to love and share their life with, it really was quite touching!! More power to them

Should gay couples be allowed to adopt?

Are you a closet gay?

Lets be honest here, did you know that most child molestation cases were Man/Boy? that means what?? you guessed, homosexuals are more likely to molest than straights.


Roughly 33% of girls and 14% of boys are molested before the age of 18, according to the U.S. Justice Department.

Child Molestation Statistics (http://www.childmolestationvictim.com/statistics.html)

* Three out of four children who were victimized were female.
* Nearly two-thirds of convicted child molesters and/or offenders were or had been married.

Sex Offender Statistics - Child Molester Statistics (http://childprotection.lifetips.com/cat/63573/sex-offender-statistics/index.html)

Roughly 33% of girls and 14% of boys are molested before the age of 18, according to the U.S. Justice Department.

Child Molestation Statistics (http://www.childmolestationvictim.com/statistics.html)

* Three out of four children who were victimized were female.
* Nearly two-thirds of convicted child molesters and/or offenders were or had been married.

Sex Offender Statistics - Child Molester Statistics (http://childprotection.lifetips.com/cat/63573/sex-offender-statistics/index.html)
I didn't realize the numbers were so high for girls. Appauling.

I didn't realize the numbers were so high for girls. Appauling.
I think its appauling anyway you look at it.
I see no reason to open children up to more chance of molestation just to get them out of the system.
I also dont see why the waiting list and the cost is so high to adopt. You make it easier and less expensive and you would have a whole lot less kids waiting.
Do a background check on the parents to be, and move on.

Regardless of what you or I think- little Johnny/Susie are going to get the snot beat out of them from 3rd grade on because they have a daddy and a daddy/mommy and a mommy vs a mommy and daddy.

So no- but not because of the parental aspect. Kids will be kids and kids can be mean so why subject one to daily beatings.

ps Hi from a newbie! :howdy:

Kids are taught adversity in school. Your family is not going to be the same as little Johnny or Susie's family. Its not the 50s anymore, and the nuclear family is not the norm.

One of my best friends is a gay man in a relationship. He and his partner adopted 2 children from a Russian orphanage..the stories of the orphanage is terrible. 50 degrees in there..no baths for kids or diapers etc..Anyway this kids are HAPPY HAPPY...and I feel they are in the best of hands I say yes.

no, I just personally do not think that gay couples are suited for properly raising children. I would have run away and joined the circus or something if I had been raised by a couple of homosexuals.
Friends wouldnt be allowed to come over, I would never want them to show up for parent teacher confrences. It just would have been terrible to be raised by non normal parental units.

That's where it bothers me. I try to picture myself with two daddies or two mommies. I am thankful that I was not raised in that environment. When I was growing up, none of this would have ever been an issue. Homos were and still are living a perverted unnatural lifestyle. That's not healthy for children to be exposed to. I don't want to hear the argument that it's between two consenting adults. That doesn't make it any less perverted.

I also can't understand how homos are calling themselves christian and are going to church. I can only assume they've edited the bible to suit their needs. The priest in our old church used to preach against the gays on a regular basis. There was never one person in church who did not agree with him.

My kids will only see society deteriorate even more in their lifetimes. Thankfully they have a good foundation and are off to a great start.

Yes, they should be allowed to adopt. All of the gay couples I have met would be better suited to raise children than most hetero couples I know.

:yeahthat:

Kids are taught adversity in school. Your family is not going to be the same as little Johnny or Susie's family. Its not the 50s anymore, and the nuclear family is not the norm.
explain this.
are you saying that a good family with mother and father is not the norm anymore?

Roughly 33% of girls and 14% of boys are molested before the age of 18, according to the U.S. Justice Department.

Child Molestation Statistics (http://www.childmolestationvictim.com/statistics.html)

* Three out of four children who were victimized were female.
* Nearly two-thirds of convicted child molesters and/or offenders were or had been married.

Sex Offender Statistics - Child Molester Statistics (http://childprotection.lifetips.com/cat/63573/sex-offender-statistics/index.html)
You're going to burst his bubble with facts.

That's where it bothers me. I try to picture myself with two daddies or two mommies. I am thankful that I was not raised in that environment. When I was growing up, none of this would have ever been an issue. Homos were and still are living a perverted unnatural lifestyle. That's not healthy for children to be exposed to. I don't want to hear the argument that it's between two consenting adults. That doesn't make it any less perverted.

I also can't understand how homos are calling themselves christian and are going to church. I can only assume they've edited the bible to suit their needs. The priest in our old church used to preach against the gays on a regular basis. There was never one person in church who did not agree with him.

My kids will only see society deteriorate even more in their lifetimes. Thankfully they have a good foundation and are off to a great start.
If you'd grown up in that family it would seem normal. If they're good parents and teach responsibility more than likely the kid will grow up that way, wether it was M/M, F/F, or M/F.

That's not healthy for children to be exposed to. I don't want to hear the argument that it's between two consenting adults. That doesn't make it any less perverted.


Why is it not healthy?
Its what happens behind closed doors. When two people love eachother and express it in a sexual manner they do so in private, why is this an issue? Do you have sexual relations in front of your kids? I sure hope not.



I also can't understand how homos are calling themselves christian and are going to church. I can only assume they've edited the bible to suit their needs. The priest in our old church used to preach against the gays on a regular basis. There was never one person in church who did not agree with him.


What about preists molesting young boys? You know for so long since the begining of recorded history, homosexuality has been documented. Some human lives were also reserved for just that, to be sexual slaves to others, in Persia, Italy as well as Greece and Japan it was young boys to serve as women for men of nobile stature. It was not uncommon in bathhouses in Venice, Florence, Greece and Rome. A large part of many countries militaries throughout history went gay (i.e. close quarters with other men). Homosexualisty is even prevelent in Iran and other middle eastern Muslim dominated countries, they don't admit it because apperently its punishable by death. Lordy Byron, Richard Francis Burton, John Cleland, Thomas Cannon and others wrote about it in Eurpoe.....

Throughout history there have been acceptance and backlash of same sex relations. You're just going to have to get used to it, the gay population is simply not going to go away.

explain this.
are you saying that a good family with mother and father is not the norm anymore?

Oh, no its normal. What I meant, its just more common to see one mother, one father families, extended families with cousins and aunts/uncles living under one roof, step dads, step moms, even friends living together. The definition of families has been changed to suit certain situations. You may be raised by your aunt and uncle or your brother or sister.

Throughout history there have been acceptance and backlash of same sex relations. You're just going to have to get used to it, the gay population is simply not going to go away.
and I suggest the gay population get used to being looked down on.
there are a whole bunch of people out there that dont agree with their chosen lifestyle, and basically, not much chance of us going away either.

the harder they try to push to force society to normalize and embrace their choice, the harder some will push back.

and I suggest the gay population get used to being looked down on.
there are a whole bunch of people out there that dont agree with their chosen lifestyle, and basically, not much chance of us going away either.

the harder they try to push to force society to normalize and embrace their choice, the harder some will push back.

but.... you forgot about the acceptance part :ohwell:

but.... you forgot about the acceptance part :ohwell:
comes under the normalize and embracing.
they cant force acceptance either.

comes under the normalize and embracing.
they cant force acceptance either.

I guess not, same with blacks, jews, hispanics, muslims....etc.

Last resort to whome? A child molester, rapest, ? Just want to know.

As a last resort to a child molester or rapist or any other undesirable wanting to adopt...

Decent gay couple verses decent hetero couple competing for the same child.... The hetero couple should get the nod every time. A "normal" family environment provides the best chances for success in my opinion. Gays make up approximately 10% of the population. The other 90% is comprised mostly of people who don't approve of the gay lifestyle which could subject an adopted child to unnecessary ridicule that he/she would otherwise not receive if raised by a normal family.

I oppose homosexuality based on my religious beliefs and think that it's sinful to live that type of lifestyle. I'll let God decide what happens to them but I won't be jumping up and down applauding their lifestyle and promoting it as being normal. The fact that the acceptance of homosexuality has become so main stream further proves the erosion of morals commonly seen in America today.

As a last resort to a child molester or rapist or any other undesirable wanting to adopt...

Decent gay couple verses decent hetero couple competing for the same child.... The hetero couple should get the nod every time. A "normal" family environment provides the best chances for success in my opinion. Gays make up approximately 10% of the population. The other 90% is comprised mostly of people who don't approve of the gay lifestyle which could subject an adopted child to unnecessary ridicule that he/she would otherwise not receive if raised by a normal family.

I oppose homosexuality based on my religious beliefs and think that it's sinful to live that type of lifestyle. I'll let God decide what happens to them but I won't be jumping up and down applauding their lifestyle and promoting it as being normal. The fact that the acceptance of homosexuality has become so main stream further proves the erosion of morals commonly seen in America today.

:yeahthat:

I guess not, same with blacks, jews, hispanics, muslims....etc.


What do any of these groups of people have to do with perverted sexual practices? Apples and oranges!

Thomas Sowell : Gay "marriage" - Townhall.com (http://townhall.com/Columnists/ThomasSowell/2006/08/15/gay_marriage)

and I suggest the gay population get used to being looked down on.
there are a whole bunch of people out there that dont agree with their chosen lifestyle, and basically, not much chance of us going away either.

the harder they try to push to force society to normalize and embrace their choice, the harder some will push back.

I never understand why anyone would care about someone else's sex life and domestic arrangement. Disapproving is one thing, but to want to involve yourself in their life and rights as taxpaying humans?

I personally disapprove more of these bebe mamas with their brood of illegitimate children and their revolving door of sex partners than I disapprove of a loving monogamous gay couple.

and I suggest the gay population get used to being looked down on.
there are a whole bunch of people out there that dont agree with their chosen lifestyle, and basically, not much chance of us going away either.

the harder they try to push to force society to normalize and embrace their choice, the harder some will push back.

That's just it. They are looked down on but don't see it that way anymore. I know that when I'm out with the guys or at work, we always crack gay jokes. You know.."Don't bend over..." or Hey, get your hand off my knee...." When the gay people are around, we have to behave ourselves but when they are not......watch out. Don't dare be caught in a room with only one other male there with some of the lights turned off. That will definitely start a rumor and get some jokes flowing.

I can remember being with my brother about 1 1/2 ago at a flea market. Two gay guys were trying on a fake fur coat and making comments about it. My brother and I were laughing so hard, it brought tears to our eyes. You had to be there. It was like being at the circus watching the bearded lady perform.

comes under the normalize and embracing.
they cant force acceptance either.
I guess not, same with blacks, jews, hispanics, muslims....etc.
What do any of these groups of people have to do with perverted sexual practices? Apples and oranges!

I comparing these groups of people to other groups of people regarding acceptance. In no way am I saying that gays and blacks are the same, I am saying that some people don't tolerate jews, blacks, hispanics, muslims etc, in one way or another, just like some don't tolerate gays in some way or another. Tell me you have never wondered why you have to "press 1 for english" or have ever shared a racial/sexist joke with a fellow co-worker of the same race/sex?

That's just it. They are looked down on but don't see it that way anymore. I know that when I'm out with the guys or at work, we always crack gay jokes. You know.."Don't bend over..." or Hey, get your hand off my knee...." When the gay people are around, we have to behave ourselves but when they are not......watch out. Don't dare be caught in a room with only one other male there with some of the lights turned off. That will definitely start a rumor and get some jokes flowing.

I can remember being with my brother about 1 1/2 ago at a flea market. Two gay guys were trying on a fake fur coat and making comments about it. My brother and I were laughing so hard, it brought tears to our eyes. You had to be there. It was like being at the circus watching the bearded lady perform.


Because you're immature.

That's just it. They are looked down on but don't see it that way anymore. I know that when I'm out with the guys or at work, we always crack gay jokes. You know.."Don't bend over..." or Hey, get your hand off my knee...." When the gay people are around, we have to behave ourselves but when they are not......watch out. Don't dare be caught in a room with only one other male there with some of the lights turned off. That will definitely start a rumor and get some jokes flowing.

My experience with gay people is that they think that ####'s funny, too. They know they're gay so it's not like they haven't heard it all already. They tell jokes about us, too, in case you didn't know that. :lol:

My experience with gay people is that they think that ####'s funny, too. They know they're gay so it's not like they haven't heard it all already. They tell jokes about us, too, in case you didn't know that. :lol:
:yeahthat:
And those jokes are funnier than the gay jokes.

I just told a friend who is now in a relationship that mandate has two meaning for him now. I grew up in an area with a big gay population, had a gay boss for my job in high school, went to gay bars because frankly they are more fun and I have a gay cousins. I may just be your regular ### hag.

What do any of these groups of people have to do with perverted sexual practices? Apples and oranges!

Yo dip####...most perverts, rapists, and molesters are white hetero males. :yay:

Fact is, children deserve a loving home. It does not matter if their parents are gay. There are so many children in need of good homes. I have a few gay friends. I would much rather see them as parents than half of the idiots that I see in Wal*Mart with their heathens. :yay:

Yo dip####...most perverts, rapists, and molesters are white hetero males. :yay:

Fact is, children deserve a loving home. It does not matter if their parents are gay. There are so many children in need of good homes. I have a few gay friends. I would much rather see them as parents than half of the idiots that I see in Wal*Mart with their heathens. :yay:

Some gay couples make suitable parents IMO.

Hey check out this website! Being gay doesn't seem half bad :killingme

Meet Gay Couples - What's New? (http://www.meetgaycouples.com/forum/home.php)

Some gay couples make suitable parents IMO.

Hey check out this website! Being gay doesn't seem half bad :killingme

Meet Gay Couples - What's New? (http://www.meetgaycouples.com/forum/home.php)

Just curious, how many gay couples do you actually know? All the ones that I know have more stable relationships than the majority of my hetero friends. :shrug:

Yo dip####...most perverts, rapists, and molesters are white hetero males. :yay:

Fact is, children deserve a loving home. It does not matter if their parents are gay. There are so many children in need of good homes. I have a few gay friends. I would much rather see them as parents than half of the idiots that I see in Wal*Mart with their heathens. :yay:


Did I strike a nerve socki? Sorry, I will never agree with the statement "It doesn't matter if the parents are gay." It most certainly does. What do you do at Wal-Mart? Are you a greeter?

Just curious, how many gay couples do you actually know? All the ones that I know have more stable relationships than the majority of my hetero friends. :shrug:

Did I strike a nerve socki? Sorry, I will never agree with the statement "It doesn't matter if the parents are gay." It most certainly does. What do you do at Wal-Mart? Are you a greeter?

That's the best he's got Socki. Pretty limp huh? :lol:

What do you do at Wal-Mart? Are you a greeter?

I shop.

That's the best he's got Socki. Pretty limp huh? :lol:

He should really take his little blue pill. :yay:

He should really take his little blue pill. :yay:

Oh, that's lame. Oh, well. Hope it made you laugh. Just curious.......Out of all the men you and Geek have slept with, how many of them actually needed the blue pill to get it up? With the two of you, it's probably quite a few.

Oh, that's lame. Oh, well. Hope it made you laugh. Just curious.......Out of all the men you and Geek have slept with, how many of them actually needed the blue pill to get it up? With the two of you, it's probably quite a few.

This thread is about gay adoption. Leave it on topic. You have never seen either one of us to even know what we look like. You want to #### with me, take it to the Fight Club. I'm in a crappy mood and I'll gladly shread your ass in there.

Just curious, how many gay couples do you actually know? All the ones that I know have more stable relationships than the majority of my hetero friends. :shrug:

I know several and yes they are all in stable relationships. So what?

I never said I didn't like gay people, I just don't agree with their lifestyle. It goes against everything I believe in as a christian... Marriage is between a man and a woman, there's a reason why gay couples can't conceive naturally and I believe this is why they aren't meant to have children. Is this supposed to make me a bad person somehow?

If I'm upsetting you in some way, I didn't write the bible so don't be angry with me. It is God who makes the rules not I. God made the rules I'll let God judge what happens to them when they depart us...

Why subject a kid to ridicule if he is adopted by a stable gay couple if a suitable stable hetero couple can adopt them? Orphan's already have it rough why make things harder on them? Sorry, but I'm just not that liberal in my thinking to accept gay couples as being equal to a heterosexual couple.

I do know some very nice gay people though....

This thread is about gay adoption. Leave it on topic. You have never seen either one of us to even know what we look like. You want to #### with me, take it to the Fight Club. I'm in a crappy mood and I'll gladly shread your ass in there.

Why are you in a crappy mood? Did your man-of-the-week dump you? Did all 4 of your kid's daddy's stiff you on child support? You wanna shread my ass! I don't think you are worthy to wipe my ass! What a desirable woman you are. lol. :barf:

Just my opinion; I think Gay couples should be allowed to adopt.

On a separate note, I do not have any gay friends. Most of the ones I have met have been either prissy, b#tch#y or just plain mean. I'm sure there are some nice people that are gay....but I haven't met them.

Just my opinion; I think Gay couples should be allowed to adopt.

On a separate note, I do not have any gay friends. Most of the ones I have met have been either prissy, b#tch#y or just plain mean. I'm sure there are some nice people that are gay....but I haven't met them.

????????

I voted for option 3, "Sure, they should have the right to adopt." but every adoption should be considered on a case by case basis. A hetero couple is no gurantee to a sucessful upbringing nor is a gay couple. It's all based on the individuals involved in each case of adoption. There are a lot of kids out there in need of adoptive parents which means there are not enough folks out there who want to adopt. Given that, if there's a gay couple out there who want to adopt then so be it. For those who oppose that idea, step up to the plate, call and become part of the solution. If you're not willing to reach out and adopt a child, then don't fuss about other folks who are just because they don't meet your idea of perfect parents.

Why are you in a crappy mood? Did your man-of-the-week dump you? Did all 4 of your kid's daddy's stiff you on child support? You wanna shread my ass! I don't think you are worthy to wipe my ass! What a desirable woman you are. lol. :barf:

Every time I think of you, I remember Obama won, and it makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. And you're right Dork, I am sure you are twice the woman that Socki is :yay:

no, I just personally do not think that gay couples are suited for properly raising children. I would have run away and joined the circus or something if I had been raised by a couple of homosexuals.
Friends wouldnt be allowed to come over, I would never want them to show up for parent teacher confrences. It just would have been terrible to be raised by non normal parental units.

Define normal. WTF is normal?

Regardless of what you or I think- little Johnny/Susie are going to get the snot beat out of them from 3rd grade on because they have a daddy and a daddy/mommy and a mommy vs a mommy and daddy.

So no- but not because of the parental aspect. Kids will be kids and kids can be mean so why subject one to daily beatings.

ps Hi from a newbie! :howdy:

And where do those kids learn it from? Where do they learn to be cruel and mean? From their pathetic parents. Thank God I wasn't raised that way and my children will not be raised that way. People are people no matter their race or sexual preference.

That's where it bothers me. I try to picture myself with two daddies or two mommies. I am thankful that I was not raised in that environment. When I was growing up, none of this would have ever been an issue. Homos were and still are living a perverted unnatural lifestyle. That's not healthy for children to be exposed to. I don't want to hear the argument that it's between two consenting adults. That doesn't make it any less perverted.

I also can't understand how homos are calling themselves christian and are going to church. I can only assume they've edited the bible to suit their needs. The priest in our old church used to preach against the gays on a regular basis. There was never one person in church who did not agree with him.

My kids will only see society deteriorate even more in their lifetimes. Thankfully they have a good foundation and are off to a great start.


:duh: and all priest are great right? How many molest children as they preach against gays?

and I suggest the gay population get used to being looked down on.
there are a whole bunch of people out there that dont agree with their chosen lifestyle, and basically, not much chance of us going away either.

the harder they try to push to force society to normalize and embrace their choice, the harder some will push back.

Chosen lifestyle? I don't belive that people choose to be gay. Why exactly would a person choose that?

That's just it. They are looked down on but don't see it that way anymore. I know that when I'm out with the guys or at work, we always crack gay jokes. You know.."Don't bend over..." or Hey, get your hand off my knee...." When the gay people are around, we have to behave ourselves but when they are not......watch out. Don't dare be caught in a room with only one other male there with some of the lights turned off. That will definitely start a rumor and get some jokes flowing.

I can remember being with my brother about 1 1/2 ago at a flea market. Two gay guys were trying on a fake fur coat and making comments about it. My brother and I were laughing so hard, it brought tears to our eyes. You had to be there. It was like being at the circus watching the bearded lady perform.

That is just sick and cruel and shows what type of person you really are. Does your bible teach you to laugh at people?

:duh: and all priest are great right? How many molest children as they preach against gays?



Gay preist, straight priest, or pastor or whatever they all preach from the word of God and all christian faiths share the same fundamental belief that homosexuality is a sin. The gay priest or pastor is no less wrong than any other human being.

Maybe I should give this gay thing a try.....

Every time I think of you, I remember Obama won, and it makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. And you're right Dork, I am sure you are twice the woman that Socki is :yay:

I think of you often too, Geek! It makes me realize my life isn't so bad afterall. I could have been you but I was given a better life. I'm glad you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Is it because Obama won or because you've had lots of warm and fuzzy guys riding you over the years.

Obama is another issue. BOHICA!

That is just sick and cruel and shows what type of person you really are. Does your bible teach you to laugh at people?

Lighten up, I'll bet it was funny. Gay people know how to laugh and most of gay people I know expect to be the BUTT of a few jokes. Most gay people I know are the ones making the jokes!

That is just sick and cruel and shows what type of person you really are. Does your bible teach you to laugh at people?

There's nothing sick about it. It was sooooooooo funny. The bible doesn't prohibit me from humor. Laughter is a good thing,

I know several and yes they are all in stable relationships. So what?

I never said I didn't like gay people, I just don't agree with their lifestyle. It goes against everything I believe in as a christian... Marriage is between a man and a woman, there's a reason why gay couples can't conceive naturally and I believe this is why they aren't meant to have children. Is this supposed to make me a bad person somehow?

If I'm upsetting you in some way, I didn't write the bible so don't be angry with me. It is God who makes the rules not I. God made the rules I'll let God judge what happens to them when they depart us...

Why subject a kid to ridicule if he is adopted by a stable gay couple if a suitable stable hetero couple can adopt them? Orphan's already have it rough why make things harder on them? Sorry, but I'm just not that liberal in my thinking to accept gay couples as being equal to a heterosexual couple.

I do know some very nice gay people though....
Take this crap to the religious forum Bible Thumper.
Why are you in a crappy mood? Did your man-of-the-week dump you? Did all 4 of your kid's daddy's stiff you on child support? You wanna shread my ass! I don't think you are worthy to wipe my ass! What a desirable woman you are. lol. :barf:
I do not have 4 kids. I have 13. Get it straight. Have you even ever seen me?
Every time I think of you, I remember Obama won, and it makes me all warm and fuzzy inside. And you're right Dork, I am sure you are twice the woman that Socki is :yay:
Is that really Dork? Is she fat?

There's nothing sick about it. It was sooooooooo funny. The bible doesn't prohibit me from humor. Laughter is a good thing,

I agree. Maybe God made gays to entertain us? Ever watch HGTV? Pretty entertaining!

Take this crap to the religious forum Bible Thumper.



Don't ever call me a bible thumper! :killingme I don't FORCE my beliefs on anyone.

Everything I said is relevant to the debate we're having. It supports my stance and explains my point of view.

I agree. Maybe God made guys to entertain us? Ever watch HGTV? Pretty entertaining!

There ya go. Come on out of the closet baby. How does it feel to finally let it out? Guys entertain you. :clap:

There ya go. Come on out of the closet baby. How does it feel to finally let it out? Guys entertain you. :clap:


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That was a typo. It was supposed to read GAYS.

I like most gay people I meet. Does this make me gay?

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That was a typo. It was supposed to read GAYS.

I like most gay people I meet. Does this make me gay?

Yes. Go adopt a child.

Yes. Go adopt a child.

I already have three kids with my "wife" (actually a woman). Everyone who knows also knows that I'm not stable...

I already have three kids with my "wife" (actually a woman). Everyone who knows also knows that I'm not stable...

Yet, you do not think that a stable gay couple should adopt. Yet, you have 3 kids and are not stable. Good going. :yay:

Yet, you do not think that a stable gay couple should adopt. Yet, you have 3 kids and are not stable. Good going. :yay:

You got the wrong unstable guy there rocket scientist. I am for gay adoption. I just think that a hetero couple should be the first choice if there is one available. Stable of course.

Gosh I hate illiteracy!

From page one, written by the bird of love - BlueBird.

BlueBird Wrote:

"Yes but only as a last resort....

Let me explain. The best environment for a child to be rasied in is a moral one where proper values are taught. A normal family environment is the closest they'll get to this. With this being said though, I think anything is better than being raised in an orphanage so if a suitable heterosexual couple is un available to adopt then let the gays adopt - only as a last resort though.

Sorry in advance if my views offend anyone..."

You got the wrong unstable guy there rocket scientist. I am for gay adoption. I just think that a hetero couple should be the first choice if there is one available. Stable of course.

Gosh I hate illiteracy!

From page one, written by the bird of love - BlueBird.

BlueBird Wrote:

"Yes but only as a last resort....

Let me explain. The best environment for a child to be rasied in is a moral one where proper values are taught. A normal family environment is the closest they'll get to this. With this being said though, I think anything is better than being raised in an orphanage so if a suitable heterosexual couple is un available to adopt then let the gays adopt - only as a last resort though.

Sorry in advance if my views offend anyone..."

You said as a last resort. My reading comprehensive is just fine. I am far from illiterate.

You said as a last resort. My reading comprehensive is just fine. I am far from illiterate.

If you say so..... As a last resort still implies that I am pro gay adoption. I never said that under no circumstances should gay couples be allowed to adopt did I?

You feel that a stable gay couple competing for a child that a stable hetero couple is competing for should have the same opportunity to adopt said child. I respect your point of view and your opinion is noted. I on the other hand think the stable heterosexual couple should get the nod based on my core values....

You are also much younger than I am and it seems that your generation is more liberal when it comes to these matters. Either way who cares? We have different opinions and so be it!

You are also much younger than I am and it seems that your generation is more liberal when it comes to these matters. Either way who cares? We have different opinions and so be it!

I am only 9 years younger than you. :confused:

I am only 9 years younger than you. :confused:

On paper maybe.....

On paper maybe.....

I am mature beyond my years. Spend a day in my shoes and you would realize that.

I think of you often too, Geek! It makes me realize my life isn't so bad afterall. I could have been you but I was given a better life. I'm glad you feel all warm and fuzzy inside. Is it because Obama won or because you've had lots of warm and fuzzy guys riding you over the years.

Obama is another issue. BOHICA!

Really? That has got to be the weirdest thing any woman has ever said to me. :roflmao:

I am mature beyond my years. Spend a day in my shoes and you would realize that.

I'm sure you are....

It sounds like you're looking for someone to argue with and I'm not in an arguing kind of mood this evening. We have opposing views and I've already said that I respect your point of view even though it differs from mine.

With that being said, I'm moving on as I've already made my point. You may have the last word if you wish.

Really? That has got to be the weirdest thing any woman has ever said to me. :roflmao:

1. I am not a woman
2. I am better than you
3. You can't have me. Sorry!

2. I am better than you

Are you the one person on here that has actually met Geek? :confused:

the issue is easy to solve on when dealing with the semi older adoptable kids.
let them make the decision.
I personally would vote no to gay parents, other kids might welcome the opportunity just to get out of social services hell.

End of conversation here for me but let me leave it with this.
I do not agree with gays adopting, and I do not think that they can make a normal family.
I also do not think its in the best interest of the child.

For those worried about there kids growing up in a Gay family (and getting teased at school)....think about the snappy comebacks the Gay family kid could come up with.

For example: a bully says to the adopted kid "so which one of your mom's do you call dad?" He could come back with "I don't know; why don't you ask your mom? I think she's called my Mommy "Oh Daddy!!!Oh baby" a hundred times so which one is it today? Go call her and find out!"

For those worried about there kids growing up in a Gay family (and getting teased at school)....think about the snappy comebacks the Gay family kid could come up with.

For example: a bully says to the adopted kid "so which one of your mom's do you call dad?" He could come back with "I don't know; why don't you ask your mom? I think she's called my Mommy "Oh Daddy!!!Oh baby" a hundred times so which one is it today? Go call her and find out!"
so, the comeback is that not only is his mother a lesbo, shes also a whore?

yeah, thats a good one.

I don't know, bcp...I'm torn on this issue. I don't agree with the gay lifestyle either, but I look around and see some of the trailer park trash/ghetto trash who are allowed to breed and raise kids in squallor and violence....people who pimp out their kids, let them run amok, beat them, abuse them...and I just have to wonder... what is so worse about letting gay parents adopt? If they can do better, crap, let them.
People now days just suck... doesn't matter if they're gay/straight, military/civilian, rep/dem, religious/agnostic. Society is just going downhill alltogether...

Maybe you should go back to your fantasies in Foodcritics thread and rethink that position :shrug:We've discussed this in the past, and that position holds water.Again, from a Stanford psychological study (http://www.stanford.edu/~mrosenfe/Rosenfeld_Nontraditional_Families_Children.pdf):Large sample nationally representative studies of family structure and children’s outcomes nearly universally find at least a modest advantage for children raised by two biological parents who are married to each other. The question which has bedeviled researchers, and which remains essentially unresolved, is why (Cherlin 1999).And, the LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-surrogacyside1xoct30,1,4475318.story) (and certainly we can agree this is a "socially progressive" newspaper, that would not taint its stories towards a conservative mindset) deemed the psychological studies done so far are skewed in favor of homosexual marriage/parenting due to a bias on the parts of the researchers. They basically say there's not enough information yet.

As a matter of fact, Duke Law School (http://www.law.duke.edu/shell/cite.pl?15+Duke+J.+Gender+L.+&+Pol%27y+127#H1N6) declared:Given the methodological limitations of the existing research on lesbigay parenting, as well as research suggesting that dual-gender parenting may be modestly advantageous for children, laws prohibiting same-sex marriage or adoption on the theory that lesbigay parenting disadvantages children can (and probably should) pass constitutional muster under the highly deferential rational basis test for judicial review of legislative action.

While I don't think all adoptive parents are good (hetero or homo), and I don't think they're even mostly bad (hetero or homo), there is at least some correlation to problems with homosexual adoptive parents.

No, that doesn't mean they're all bad, or you can assume they'll be bad, or all heterosexual parents are good, or any other conclusion that I have not stated.

There you go again, with that whole "Not understanding when someone replies (or quotes) another users post"

BCP posts this :

See that is me quoting from BCP's post i then responded

Foodcritics thread was about FEMALE teachers who molested their students. There are a crap load of teachers referenced, you would think when BCP posted in that thread he would recognize that :
The teachers were not male
Majority of the students while male were the opposite sex of the teachers (who were not male)
With the above information, as well as the information others have posted you would think BCP would think twice before making his ignorant posts, unfortunately thats not the case.:lmao:

Fair enough - a quick skimming and I presumed (without full knowledge) that the comments had something to do with the topic of the thread.....


As you were!

Last resort to whome? A child molester, rapest, ? Just want to know.

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