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kwillia
11-25-2008, 09:49 AM
$8,000+ just for the battery... and how long is this battery going to last? What happens when it no longer holds a charge? Who can afford to pay out $8,000+ for a new battery and then the labor charges to boot? Also, the car needs to be plugged in... isn't most of our electricity generated from burning coal and such? Isn't our new president-elect promising to place huge restrictions on the coal industry? Isn't that going to result in hire costs for electricity and possible less generated because of the companies that will have to shut down due to the restrictions and regulations? :confused:



washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/24/AR2008112403211.html?hpid%3Dtopnews&sub=AR)

The car company Schumer and other lawmakers envision for the future could turn out to be a money-losing operation, not part of a "sustainable U.S. auto industry" that President-elect Barack Obama and most members of Congress say they want to create.

That's because car manufacturers still haven't figured out how to produce hybrid and plug-in vehicles cheaply enough to make money on them. After a decade of relative success with its hybrid Prius, Toyota has sold about a million of the cars and is still widely believed by analysts to be losing money on each one sold. General Motors has touted plans for a plug-in hybrid vehicle called the Volt, but the costly battery will prevent it from turning a profit on the vehicle for several years, at least.



But there's no guarantee that the new business model would be any more viable than the current one. Automobile experts estimate that the battery in a plug-in vehicle could add at least $8,000 to the cost of a car, maybe considerably more.

DEEKAYPEE8569
11-25-2008, 10:30 AM
General Motors has touted plans for a plug-in hybrid vehicle called the Volt, but the costly battery will prevent it from turning a profit on the vehicle for several years, at least.

But there's no guarantee that the new business model would be any more viable than the current one. Automobile experts estimate that the battery in a plug-in vehicle could add at least $8,000 to the cost of a car, maybe considerably more.
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What is the MSRP or projected MSRP of the Chevy Volt? Has anyone heard?

We will all be riding horses and horse-drawn carriages again in a few years.

JMO

GWguy
11-25-2008, 10:50 AM
The cost is in-line with the retrofit kits for the Prius. You can get a plug-in kit, cost is in the range of $5k to $9k depending. The dealer authorized version is almost $10k. Increases the range while on battery to about 40 miles, charges overnight. BUT, the cost to replace the batteries will be hefty.

Gtmustang88
11-25-2008, 01:08 PM
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What is the MSRP or projected MSRP of the Chevy Volt? Has anyone heard?

We will all be riding horses and horse-drawn carriages again in a few years.

JMO

Last i saw, it was going to be around 40k...

aps45819
11-25-2008, 01:11 PM
Last i saw, it was going to be around 40k...

Sounds like a great deal for a car that won't outrun a Geo Metro :rolleyes:

itsbob
11-25-2008, 01:26 PM
I think it's Honda that has the first Production Fuel Cell vehicle.. Hit's the showroom this January I believe.

SteveT44
01-13-2009, 03:11 PM
The real car of the future (or one close to it).

Aptera (http://www.Aptera.com)

nana
01-13-2009, 03:19 PM
I think it's Honda that has the first Production Fuel Cell vehicle.. Hit's the showroom this January I believe.


Here is the link to Honda's FCX Clarity. Only a select few will be able to purchase and at this time is only available in CA
Honda FCX Clarity - Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle - Official Web Site (http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/)

GWguy
01-13-2009, 04:17 PM
The real car of the future (or one close to it).

Aptera (http://www.Aptera.com)
I like it, but don't like the view from the tail. Takes some getting used to...

Here is the link to Honda's FCX Clarity. Only a select few will be able to purchase and at this time is only available in CA
Honda FCX Clarity - Hydrogen Fuel Cell Vehicle - Official Web Site (http://automobiles.honda.com/fcx-clarity/)

$600 / mo lease!??! Yikes!

aps45819
01-13-2009, 04:28 PM
The real car of the future (or one close to it).

Aptera (http://www.Aptera.com)

What's the power source?

SteveT44
01-13-2009, 04:34 PM
What's the power source?

It's electric with a 150 mile range on an overnight charge. There's a plug-in hybrid version in the works also (basically they add a small diesel generator to charge the batteries).


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