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Jeff
11-30-2008, 10:06 AM
I have a Router with 8 ports. I need a few more. I also have a Wireless Router with I think 4 more hardwire connection ports on it.

How do I hook the Wireless router up to the Regular Router so that I have connectivety??

I have tried this before but it is definatley not a PNP type deal. I never could ge the wireless router to connect when hooked up to the wired router..


Anyone have any knowledge about this??

Mousebaby
11-30-2008, 10:10 AM
I have a Router with 8 ports. I need a few more. I also have a Wireless Router with I think 4 more hardwire connection ports on it.

How do I hook the Wireless router up to the Regular Router so that I have connectivety??

I have tried this before but it is definatley not a PNP type deal. I never could ge the wireless router to connect when hooked up to the wired router..


Anyone have any knowledge about this??

Is there anyway to get another wireless router and somehow sync them together? I know nothing about this stuff. :shrug:

Jeff
11-30-2008, 10:35 AM
I found this:
Connecting two routers wired - the definitive answer - Wireless Routers - Linksys Community Forums (http://forums.linksys.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Routers&message.id=26177)

I'll take a stab at that here in a bit and see what blows up.

I don't need another wireless router in the mix. Just need more wired network connections. Have a need to hook up 10 PCs plus a Printer so needed more jacks.

GWguy
11-30-2008, 11:13 AM
I found this:
Connecting two routers wired - the definitive answer - Wireless Routers - Linksys Community Forums (http://forums.linksys.com/linksys/board/message?board.id=Wireless_Routers&message.id=26177)

I'll take a stab at that here in a bit and see what blows up.

I don't need another wireless router in the mix. Just need more wired network connections. Have a need to hook up 10 PCs plus a Printer so needed more jacks.

You're probably better off investing in a 16 port switch and connecting it to one of the router ports.

Jeff
11-30-2008, 11:19 AM
You're probably better off investing in a 16 port switch and connecting it to one of the router ports.

Probably so But I wanna try using what I have here first. I have three different Routers and Hubs.

I'll see how far I can get using what I have.

Got laid off from work last week so won't be putting out any coin for this stuff for a while.:nomoney:

GWguy
11-30-2008, 11:26 AM
Probably so But I wanna try using what I have here first. I have three different Routers and Hubs.

I'll see how far I can get using what I have.

Got laid off from work last week so won't be putting out any coin for this stuff for a while.:nomoney:

Sorry bud. If you need anything, shout.

You *should* be able to connect a port on the existing router to a standard port (LAN) on the new router. Don't use the uplink or DSL/Cable (WWAN) input port. Cascading routers thru the uplink ports will not work well.

Oh yeah, you need an inversion (crossover) cable to do that unless the port is self-adapting.

forceofnature
11-30-2008, 11:33 AM
Check around for a used hub/ switch. I would think an 8 port or 16 port would be pretty cheap. A new 24 port was a bit on the high side.

Jeff
11-30-2008, 11:34 AM
Sorry bud. If you need anything, shout.

You *should* be able to connect a port on the existing router to a standard port (LAN) on the new router. Don't use the uplink or DSL/Cable (WWAN) input port. Cascading routers thru the uplink ports will not work well.

Oh yeah, you need an inversion (crossover) cable to do that unless the port is self-adapting.

I don't intend to Cascade them. Do I still need this inversion cable??

Jeff
11-30-2008, 11:36 AM
Check around for a used hub/ switch. I would think an 8 port or 16 port would be pretty cheap. A new 24 port was a bit on the high side.

I hope to use what I have here. I have one 8 Port and 2-4 ports. If I can make these work it will actually work out well location wise.

donmagicyourmom
11-30-2008, 11:36 AM
make sure you turn DCHP off on the new router you're hooking up and change the IP to xx.xx.xx.2, or anything outside of the DHCP range

Jeff
11-30-2008, 11:37 AM
make sure you turn DCHP off on the new router you're hooking up and change the IP to xx.xx.xx.2, or anything outside of the DHCP range

Yep, I think the instructions on that link I provided kinda says the same. Thanks

Jeff
11-30-2008, 11:38 AM
I'll be a while before actually trying this. I have a few things to move around and have to find my box of Network Cables.:whistle:

GWguy
11-30-2008, 11:39 AM
I don't intend to Cascade them. Do I still need this inversion cable??

Again, depends if the ports are self adaptive.

Let me look around and see what I've got that could help you.

Jeff
11-30-2008, 11:40 AM
Once I get all the parts collected here I'll post what make/model of gear I am connecting and how I plan to connect it just to see if anybody has any thoughts on it

Jeff
11-30-2008, 11:41 AM
Again, depends if the ports are self adaptive.

Let me look around and see what I've got that could help you.

I'll post the make & Model of the gear I have hear in a few

Jeff
11-30-2008, 11:59 AM
Primary Router:
Linksys BEFSR81 EtherFast Cable/DSL Router with 8 port Switch
Linksys.com - Support/Technical Support/Choose a Product/Routers and Access Points/Wired Routers/BEFSR81 (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1169671127648&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=2764841299B04)

Wirless Router:
LinkSys WRT54G Wireless-G Broadband Router
Linksys.com - Support/Technical Support/Choose a Product/Routers and Access Points/Wireless Routers/WRK54G (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859938305&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=3830541396B05)

Also I would like to try to use this in the mix:
Encore 5-Port mini Hub ESH-705
This thing is old. I can't find a good product page for it out there.

The plan is to plug both of the smaller router/hubs into the 8 port Router, if possible.

dgates80
12-01-2008, 10:22 AM
Primary Router:
Linksys BEFSR81 EtherFast Cable/DSL Router with 8 port Switch
Linksys.com - Support/Technical Support/Choose a Product/Routers and Access Points/Wired Routers/BEFSR81 (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1169671127648&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=2764841299B04)

Wirless Router:
LinkSys WRT54G Wireless-G Broadband Router
Linksys.com - Support/Technical Support/Choose a Product/Routers and Access Points/Wireless Routers/WRK54G (http://www.linksys.com/servlet/Satellite?c=L_CASupport_C2&childpagename=US%2FLayout&cid=1166859938305&pagename=Linksys%2FCommon%2FVisitorWrapper&lid=3830541396B05)

Also I would like to try to use this in the mix:
Encore 5-Port mini Hub ESH-705
This thing is old. I can't find a good product page for it out there.

The plan is to plug both of the smaller router/hubs into the 8 port Router, if possible.

I would daisy-chain a small ethernet hub off one of the ports. For the level of traffic you likely have I would expect no signifigant impact to performance, you just are not moving all that much traffic relative to the capacity of a 100mb data channel. Note you want a *hub* not a router to hang off one of the existing ports. You may need a ethernet crossover cable (the ethernet equivilant of a rs-232 null modem) if the new hub does not have a "uplink" port or is not a more recent self-adapting one.

Hubs are cheap -- it's a $25 thing, even retail at Best Buy. You *can* use a router but is more trouble to configure. I used one at the PPP store network, I think I got it at Staples.

Jeff
12-01-2008, 10:28 AM
I would daisy-chain a small ethernet hub off one of the ports. For the level of traffic you likely have I would expect no signifigant impact to performance, you just are not moving all that much traffic relative to the capacity of a 100mb data channel. Note you want a *hub* not a router to hang off one of the existing ports. You may need a ethernet crossover cable (the ethernet equivilant of a rs-232 null modem) if the new hub does not have a "uplink" port or is not a more recent self-adapting one.

Hubs are cheap -- it's a $25 thing, even retail at Best Buy. You *can* use a router but is more trouble to configure. I used one at the PPP store network, I think I got it at Staples.

Thanks,
Working on it now.
I was given a 16 port hub yesterday by a fellow forumite and am currently working toward getting that up but the suspicion is that the Cable Modem is only allowing me a small number of IP addresses for this thing. Several PCs are telling me No or Limited Connectivity.

TWL
12-01-2008, 10:47 AM
Internet --> WAN port on the BEFSR81. Make sure DHCP is on with a range starting at x.x.x.3. DHCP example - 192.168.1.3 - 192.168.1.254. Have a LAN IP of x.x.x.1. LAN IP example - 192.168.1.1

Any available port (1-8) on the BEFSR81 --> any available port (1-4) on the WRT54G. Do not use the WAN port. Turn off DHCP. Have a LAN IP of x.x.x.2. LAN IP example - 192.168.1.2

Any available port (1-8) on the BEFSR81 --> any available port (1-5) on the ESH-705. No need to set an IP. Just PnP.

Not sure about the ESH-705, but you should be able to connect the two routers with either a straight-through or cross-over CAT5 cable. It's likely you'll need a cross-over CAT5 for the ESH-705.

Mousebaby
12-01-2008, 10:51 AM
Internet --> WAN port on the BEFSR81. Make sure DHCP is on with a range starting at x.x.x.3. DHCP example - 192.168.1.3 - 192.168.1.254. Have a LAN IP of x.x.x.1. LAN IP example - 192.168.1.1

Any available port (1-8) on the BEFSR81 --> any available port (1-4) on the WRT54G. Do not use the WAN port. Turn off DHCP. Have a LAN IP of x.x.x.2. LAN IP example - 192.168.1.2

Any available port (1-8) on the BEFSR81 --> any available port (1-5) on the ESH-705. No need to set an IP. Just PnP.

Not sure about the ESH-705, but you should be able to connect the two routers with either a straight-through or cross-over CAT5 cable. It's likely you'll need a cross-over CAT5 for the ESH-705.


SPLAT!!!


Ok, my head just exploded. :faint:

Jeff
12-01-2008, 10:55 AM
Internet --> WAN port on the BEFSR81. Make sure DHCP is on with a range starting at x.x.x.3. DHCP example - 192.168.1.3 - 192.168.1.254. Have a LAN IP of x.x.x.1. LAN IP example - 192.168.1.1

Any available port (1-8) on the BEFSR81 --> any available port (1-4) on the WRT54G. Do not use the WAN port. Turn off DHCP. Have a LAN IP of x.x.x.2. LAN IP example - 192.168.1.2

Any available port (1-8) on the BEFSR81 --> any available port (1-5) on the ESH-705. No need to set an IP. Just PnP.

Not sure about the ESH-705, but you should be able to connect the two routers with either a straight-through or cross-over CAT5 cable. It's likely you'll need a cross-over CAT5 for the ESH-705.

I have been working on this for a bit now. Seems much better. I have the BEFSR81 & WRT54G running. Everything Seems OK. Also the Wireless portion is going strong. All that is left is to try to work the ESH-705 up.

clevalley
12-01-2008, 03:29 PM
I have been working on this for a bit now. Seems much better. I have the BEFSR81 & WRT54G running. Everything Seems OK. Also the Wireless portion is going strong. All that is left is to try to work the ESH-705 up.

Just go from the uplink port on the ESH-705 to the top level router you are using.

Most switches today normally do not need cross over cables.

RadioPatrol
12-01-2008, 04:34 PM
Internet --> WAN port on the BEFSR81. Make sure DHCP is on with a range starting at x.x.x.3. DHCP example - 192.168.1.3 - 192.168.1.254. Have a LAN IP of x.x.x.1. LAN IP example - 192.168.1.1

:yeahthat:


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