It seems I've seen every regular user in the all I want for Christmas is Karma thread.

Are you in favor of bringing back karma?

I am... obviously....

Who else would love to have karma back for Christmas... if it's possible... and if Vrai would not mind doing it....?

:lmao:

oh sure, so all the homo-lovers can pelt me with bad karma?

Sure why the #### not?

hotcoffee...you seem to be missing the big picture. Vrai doesn't care what you want.

hotcoffee...you seem to be missing the big picture. Vrai doesn't care what you want.

:cds:

hotcoffee...you seem to be missing the big picture. Vrai doesn't care what you want.


:popcorn:

Vrai doesn't care what you want.

:bawl:

unless it gets fixed so that alt accounts can't give karma it will be worthless.

hotcoffee...you seem to be missing the big picture. Vrai doesn't care what you want.

Aren't you a big proponent of customer service?

If we are the customer(s), should she care?

I would suggest that should a return of Karma become reality, the name of the sender of said karma should be visable to the one recieving the karma.

Aren't you a big proponent of customer service?

If we are the customer(s), should she care?

are we customers?

I don't pay anything hehe

I suppose -some- of us are.

unless it gets fixed so that alt accounts can't give karma it will be worthless.
kinda ties into what I was saying about the name being left with the karma comments.
the whole reason for dropping it before was because of the nasty comments, put a name and those comments will be fewer.

Aren't you a big proponent of customer service?

If we are the customer(s), should she care?


We are not the customers. Her customers are her advertisers. If she relied on the forums for her livelihood, she'd be broke. She should care about the people who keep her in business, instead of wasting her time on forum pettiness.

We are not the customers. Her customers are her advertisers. If she relied on the forums for her livelihood, she'd be broke. She should care about the people who keep her in business, instead of wasting her time on forum pettiness.

The advertisers pay her money to show ads to her customers (aka the people who use the website). The paying customers (premo and board owners) would have more weight since they actually pay money, but there would be no advertisers if the only people you were advertising to were the few premos.

Sure there are different types of customers, but the key sense of the word customer, in this regard, would be the users of the website and not the advertisers :smile:

:rolleyes:

The advertisers pay her money to show ads to her customers (aka the people who use the website). The paying customers (premo and board owners) would have more weight since they actually pay money, but there would be no advertisers if the only people you were advertising to were the few premos.

Sure there are different types of customers, but the key sense of the word customer, in this regard, would be the users of the website and not the advertisers :smile:

Okay.

The advertisers pay her money to show ads to her customers (aka the people who use the website). The paying customers (premo and board owners) would have more weight since they actually pay money, but there would be no advertisers if the only people you were advertising to were the few premos.

Sure there are different types of customers, but the key sense of the word customer, in this regard, would be the users of the website and not the advertisers :smile:

:lol:

:otter:

:rolleyes:

:yeahthat: I want hotcoffee to quit whining about karma.

:figured people would want karma to use after ridiculous posts like that: :whistle:

Please create a poll.:yeahthat: I want hotcoffee to quit whining about karma.

:yeahthat: I want hotcoffee to quit whining about karma.

:yeahthat:


Or maybe a karma bomb would shut them up :lmao:

:yeahthat:


Or maybe a karma bomb would shut them up :lmao:

I got all excited for a minute. :lol:

:yeahthat:


Or maybe a karma bomb would shut them up :lmao:

:buddies: :lol: Then they would cry to Vile and that's why we have no krama :tantrum

are we customers?

I don't pay anything hehe

I suppose -some- of us are.

Think of it as a free newspaper.. They depend on the readership (customers) to sell their advertisers to buy advertisement space in the "free" newspaper.

If there were no customers (forumites) advertisers wouldn't pay to place ads in here.

To keep her forum (customer) numbers up, she'd have to appease the forumites, to have the ability to sell to advertisers.

Just like selling ad time on AM or FM radio.. you have to have the market numbers (customer base/ demographic) to be able to market your station to advertisers (revenue)

Think of it as a free newspaper.. They depend on the readership (customers) to sell their advertisers to buy advertisement space in the "free" newspaper.

If there were no customers (forumites) advertisers wouldn't pay to place ads in here.

To keep her forum (customer) numbers up, she'd have to appease the forumites, to have the ability to sell to advertisers.

Just like selling ad time on AM or FM radio.. you have to have the market numbers (customer base/ demographic) to be able to market your station to advertisers (revenue)


Okay :lmao:

Think of it as a free newspaper.. They depend on the readership (customers) to sell their advertisers to buy advertisement space in the "free" newspaper.

If there were no customers (forumites) advertisers wouldn't pay to place ads in here.

To keep her forum (customer) numbers up, she'd have to appease the forumites, to have the ability to sell to advertisers.

Just like selling ad time on AM or FM radio.. you have to have the market numbers (customer base/ demographic) to be able to market your station to advertisers (revenue)

eehhh

no one will leave if karma doesn't return.

Okay :lmao:

Nobody seems to get it. :roflmao:

Nobody seems to get it. :roflmao:

Get what ? :confused:

:yeahthat: I want hotcoffee to quit whining about karma.
just think though,
once every couple days you can give me red karma and leave a message like, "kiss my ass" or something like that, and not leave a name,
then you can feel really good because you know that this has left me curled up in a corner in the fetal position crying because somebody doesnt like me.

it has possibilities.

Okay :lmao:

Lets try this to define who the customers are..

If the advertisers leave, will the forumites stop coming here? Probably not.

If the forumites stop coming here, will the advertisers leave? Most assuredly so.

So, now, who's the REAL customer?

just think though,
once every couple days you can give me red karma and leave a message like, "kiss my ass" or something like that, and not leave a name,
then you can feel really good because you know that this has left me curled up in a corner in the fetal position crying because somebody doesnt like me.

it has possibilities.


:roflmao:

Get what ? :confused:

The way Somd.com works..the forums are a VERY small part of it.

So, now, who's the REAL customer?
The advertisers.

eehhh

no one will leave if karma doesn't return.

I agree.


I just think some are confused as to who the customers on a website really are..

We are not the customers. Her customers are her advertisers. If she relied on the forums for her livelihood, she'd be broke. She should care about the people who keep her in business, instead of wasting her time on forum pettiness.

Exactly.

When karma prevents her site from growing, advertisers lose interest.

Everyone's forgotten why karma was done away with. A lot of forum regulars were constantly leaving new members (who come to these forums for information) vile karma because the newbie has a life and doesn't live next to their computer and police scanner 24/7.

Vrai got rid of karma because of the actions of a lot of forum regulars. Don't blame vrai, blame them. And you all should know by now who those people are.

I agree.


I just think some are confused as to who the customers on a website really are..

I'm looking forward to vrai enlightening you...if she feels like bothering with it.

The way Somd.com works..the forums are a VERY small part of it.

I was being a smartazz....of course I know how it works...

just think though,
once every couple days you can give me red karma and leave a message like, "kiss my ass" or something like that, and not leave a name,
then you can feel really good because you know that this has left me curled up in a corner in the fetal position crying because somebody doesnt like me.

it has possibilities.

All I want for Christmas is Karma! 12-01-2008 13:11 Kiss my ass... ~clevalley

At least this way you know it is from me. :huggy:

PS - I left my kramer in only the most loving Christian way since we are in the holiday season. :buddies:

All I want for Christmas is Karma! 12-01-2008 13:11 Kiss my ass... ~clevalley

At least this way you know it is from me. :huggy:

PS - I left my kramer in only the most loving Christian way since we are in the holiday season. :buddies:

Was that KMA directed to me????


Ill be over in the corner if you need me.:bawl:

Was that KMA directed to me????


Ill be over in the corner if you need me.:bawl:

:killingme

You said if someone left me karma like "kiss my ass", so I thought I would so you can see what it felt like. :bawl:

I want Karma back. My life feels very incomplete without it.

I would suggest that should a return of Karma become reality, the name of the sender of said karma should be visable to the one recieving the karma.

Exactly. People should stand by their comments.

Exactly.

When karma prevents her site from growing, advertisers lose interest.

Everyone's forgotten why karma was done away with. A lot of forum regulars were constantly leaving new members (who come to these forums for information) vile karma because the newbie has a life and doesn't live next to their computer and police scanner 24/7.

Vrai got rid of karma because of the actions of a lot of forum regulars. Don't blame vrai, blame them. And you all should know by now who those people are.

:yeahthat:

I would suggest that should a return of Karma become reality, the name of the sender of said karma should be visable to the one recieving the karma.

I actually agree with you on that.
:popcorn:

Why can't all of you whiney asses about karma being gone just accept it as it's not coming back no matter how much you beg and plead?

I would suggest that should a return of Karma become reality, the name of the sender of said karma should be visable to the one recieving the karma.

:yeahthat:

Can't you guys just post how much you love each others genitalia in the private forums?

Can't you guys just post how much you love each others genitalia in the private forums?

:snort:

I would suggest that should a return of Karma become reality, the name of the sender of said karma should be visable to the one recieving the karma.
You can do that already with a PM.