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camily
12-19-2008, 09:35 AM
Why do they charge more for adopting a pet than the Tri-county or the Humane Society? Also, why are they sooooo picky and then complain that that they are swamped? Don't they think that if people are going to adopt an animal and pay their fee that they will take care of the animal? If someone doesn't want to care for an animal they probably aren't going to pay their $200 plus fee.
They make it a PITA to adopt. I'm just going to go to the shelter. I'm in the market for a dog. Female yellow lab preferably but I don't need somebody coming to "inspect" my home first and fill out an application then decide whether I'm adoption worthy.
People do evil things to animals and these rescue workers have seen the worst of it.
cattitude
12-19-2008, 09:40 AM
Why do they charge more for adopting a pet than the Tri-county or the Humane Society? Also, why are they sooooo picky and then complain that that they are swamped? Don't they think that if people are going to adopt an animal and pay their fee that they will take care of the animal? If someone doesn't want to care for an animal they probably aren't going to pay their $200 plus fee.
They make it a PITA to adopt. I'm just going to go to the shelter. I'm in the market for a dog. Female yellow lab preferably but I don't need somebody coming to "inspect" my home first and fill out an application then decide whether I'm adoption worthy.
I thought you were on the board of some rescue group?
jp2854
12-19-2008, 09:41 AM
Geek is correct in what she said. I went through paws to adopt my kitten and they don't come and do a home inspection they just have you fill out an application and pay 120.00 that was the kittens price don't know about the price for the dog though. They do have you fill out an application and I bet tri-county does too. Most of them just worry that the animal wont be a house pet and will be tied up to a tree and left out there all day and all night and they want to make sure you know what you are getting yourself into when you adopt one.
thatguy
12-19-2008, 09:51 AM
Why do they charge more for adopting a pet than the Tri-county or the Humane Society? Also, why are they sooooo picky and then complain that that they are swamped? Don't they think that if people are going to adopt an animal and pay their fee that they will take care of the animal? If someone doesn't want to care for an animal they probably aren't going to pay their $200 plus fee.
They make it a PITA to adopt. I'm just going to go to the shelter. I'm in the market for a dog. Female yellow lab preferably but I don't need somebody coming to "inspect" my home first and fill out an application then decide whether I'm adoption worthy.
i agree completely and think it should be illegal for any group that isn't a licensed not-for-profit rescue to "adopt" animals from the pound and "sell" them later.
cattitude
12-19-2008, 09:51 AM
If someone doesn't want to care for an animal they probably aren't going to pay their $200 plus fee.
This is a ridiculous statement. There are plenty of dogs in the shelter that cost more than $200.
camily
12-19-2008, 09:52 AM
I thought you were on the board of some rescue group?
No, it's a different board, not a rescue group.
camily
12-19-2008, 09:53 AM
This is a ridiculous statement. There are plenty of dogs in the shelter that cost more than $200.
True, my last dog from the shelter ended up costing over $1000. I love him!
camily
12-19-2008, 09:54 AM
People do evil things to animals and these rescue workers have seen the worst of it.
Believe me, I have seen the worst of it and the animals I have seen abused and neglected are not by people who rescued them. They are from young guys who breed to fight etc.
Cowgirl
12-19-2008, 09:56 AM
Well, I can tell you what I know from my parents' group. They took each dog to the vet (which costs money). Some dogs had to have things done, like getting teeth cleaned (which costs money). Each dog was dewormed (expensive dewormer), each dog got treated for fleas and ticks (more money). Then they had to feed the dogs until each one was adopted (which costs money). Oh, and then there was the spay or neuter if needed (again, more money). When each dog was adopted, the new owner got a packet of stuff, including a leash, collar, toy, flea medicine, heartworm treatment, bone, a muzzle, and lots of informational papers. It costs money to run a rescue. Plus, private groups don't get nearly as many donations as the shelter. And last time I adopted a dog from the shelter, I only got the dog...no packet full of good stuff.
cattitude
12-19-2008, 09:59 AM
True, my last dog from the shelter ended up costing over $1000. I love him!
You know what I was referring to.
Believe me, I have seen the worst of it and the animals I have seen abused and neglected are not by people who rescued them. They are from young guys who breed to fight etc.
If you don't actually work in rescuing animals, then you have no idea.
cattitude
12-19-2008, 10:02 AM
Well, I can tell you what I know from my parents' group. They took each dog to the vet (which costs money). Some dogs had to have things done, like getting teeth cleaned (which costs money). Each dog was dewormed (expensive dewormer), each dog got treated for fleas and ticks (more money). Then they had to feed the dogs until each one was adopted (which costs money). Oh, and then there was the spay or neuter if needed (again, more money). When each dog was adopted, the new owner got a packet of stuff, including a leash, collar, toy, flea medicine, heartworm treatment, bone, a muzzle, and lots of informational papers. It costs money to run a rescue. Plus, private groups don't get nearly as many donations as the shelter. And last time I adopted a dog from the shelter, I only got the dog...no packet full of good stuff.
Exactly...and the resuces provide emergency medical care for dogs/cats that are hit by cars and otherwise sick and/or injured. Shelters like Tri County generally euthanize those animals.
The kittens I just fostered are $120 which includes 3 series of shots, rabies shot, feluk testing, microchip and spay or neuter. Not a bad deal.
toppick08
12-19-2008, 10:05 AM
I'm glad I rescued my spider...:coffee:
camily
12-19-2008, 10:06 AM
You know what I was referring to.
If you don't actually work in rescuing animals, then you have no idea.
OK. :lol:
Cowgirl
12-19-2008, 10:08 AM
OK. :lol:
Well then why are you even asking? Honestly, it's not that hard to figure out why groups charge adoption fees. And do you honestly think people who pay $200 for an animal are going to always keep it and take care of it for life? How many puggles and other $1200 designer dogs do we see in shelters every day?
Chasey_Lane
12-19-2008, 10:09 AM
The kittens I just fostered are $120 which includes 3 series of shots, rabies shot, feluk testing, microchip and spay or neuter. Not a bad deal.I got Timon from a rescue and I'm not sure if he was $125 or $150. He came micro chipped and neutered, plus he was up-to-date on all shots and such. I fell in love with him when I saw him online. I would have paid much more for him.
BS Gal
12-19-2008, 10:12 AM
We got Rassie from CAWL, whom I found to be wonderful to work with. SMAWL was really difficult and I gave up after the 4th page of the application. CAWL was $175, I believe. The lady came over and brought Rassie for the "home inspection," which basically consisted of walking in the house, taking a glance around the one room she was in, and leaving me with Rass. Rassie does not require a fence, but I did show her the back yard where we would play with her. I did not feel "violated" at all and loved CAWL.
camily
12-19-2008, 10:18 AM
We got Rassie from CAWL, whom I found to be wonderful to work with. SMAWL was really difficult and I gave up after the 4th page of the application. CAWL was $175, I believe. The lady came over and brought Rassie for the "home inspection," which basically consisted of walking in the house, taking a glance around the one room she was in, and leaving me with Rass. Rassie does not require a fence, but I did show her the back yard where we would play with her. I did not feel "violated" at all and loved CAWL.
This is what I'm talking about. Not so much the fee. I really don't mind that.
cattitude
12-19-2008, 10:20 AM
We got Rassie from CAWL, whom I found to be wonderful to work with. SMAWL was really difficult and I gave up after the 4th page of the application. CAWL was $175, I believe. The lady came over and brought Rassie for the "home inspection," which basically consisted of walking in the house, taking a glance around the one room she was in, and leaving me with Rass. Rassie does not require a fence, but I did show her the back yard where we would play with her. I did not feel "violated" at all and loved CAWL.
I had to fill out a 4-page application and we paid big bucks for Abbey....from a breeder. :lol:
jp2854
12-19-2008, 10:21 AM
I adopted one from smawl when I moved down here 12yrs ago and I guess then they didn't have a 4plus page application as I don't remember filling out one that was that lengthy (sp). I also boarded my 2cats with one of the ladies that had a bunch of the kittens that were up for adoption through smawl when I moved down here too that might have helped me some who knows.
BS Gal
12-19-2008, 10:23 AM
This is what I'm talking about. Not so much the fee. I really don't mind that.
I got really pissed off at that form. I found it very invasive. CAWL's is much easier and they don't ask you to list every sin you have ever committed in your entire life. :lol: Try them. You'll adore them.
Cowgirl
12-19-2008, 10:26 AM
I adopted Scooter from SMAWL 12 yrs ago, and it was very easy. Shoot, Ros (Roz?) even let us take him home without paying the fee first. We payed her the next day. :lol: I guess it's changed a lot.
When I adopted Tucker from Animal Control here, they practically threw him in the car with me. :lol:
BS Gal
12-19-2008, 10:30 AM
I adopted Scooter from SMAWL 12 yrs ago, and it was very easy. Shoot, Ros (Roz?) even let us take him home without paying the fee first. We payed her the next day. :lol: I guess it's changed a lot.
When I adopted Tucker from Animal Control here, they practically threw him in the car with me. :lol:
We got Tipper from them 16 years ago and they were very easy. Times have changed, I guess.
CraneTaker77
12-19-2008, 10:32 AM
The rescue groups that charge an adoption fee are right in there ways. Think about it, the cat/dog comes neutered/spayed, it has its shots the cats have been tested for FELV and Feline aids. If you were to just find a cat or dog and go to a vet like Tidewater, you would be paying well over $200 dollars.It is cheap in no way to get your pet vetted, and I'm sure all you animal lovers know that, heck it's just as expensive to take your cat/dog to the vet as me going to my doctor. I just adopted a kitten from the Tri-County and it cost us $85 dollars, after they put down the first kitten I picked out and failed to call us and tell us,that it tested positive for Feline aids. Which I still think sounds kind of fishy. So on the obligation that we would get him fixed they let me take my kitten I picked home that night. There was no way I was leaving my poor Charlie there another night. Since my boyfriend rents we also had to get a note from his landlords saying that we could have a pet. Which I don't mind because ALOT of people get a pet and turn right around and give it up because they're landlord wont allow it.
After the trouble I went through with the pound, the next time I adopt, I'm definately going to a rescue group.
Chasey_Lane
12-19-2008, 10:33 AM
When I adopted Tucker from Animal Control here, they practically threw him in the car with me. :lol:
He's the psycho one, right? Can you blame them? :lol:
Cowgirl
12-19-2008, 10:34 AM
He's the psycho one, right? Can you blame them? :lol:
:lmao: He's not the psycho one. He's the lovebug that pees in the house. :lmao: He'd been there a month.
Chasey_Lane
12-19-2008, 10:36 AM
:lmao: He's not the psycho one. He's the lovebug that pees in the house. :lmao: He'd been there a month.
I got confuseded. :biggrin:
mominsmc
12-19-2008, 02:05 PM
Why do they charge more for adopting a pet than the Tri-county or the Humane Society? Also, why are they sooooo picky and then complain that that they are swamped? Don't they think that if people are going to adopt an animal and pay their fee that they will take care of the animal? If someone doesn't want to care for an animal they probably aren't going to pay their $200 plus fee.
They make it a PITA to adopt. I'm just going to go to the shelter. I'm in the market for a dog. Female yellow lab preferably but I don't need somebody coming to "inspect" my home first and fill out an application then decide whether I'm adoption worthy.
Camily,
I learned a long time ago on this forum that you can never say anything that is negative toward animals or animal rescue groups and not expect to get your head cut off with nasty comments.
camily
12-19-2008, 02:21 PM
Camily,
I learned a long time ago on this forum that you can never say anything that is negative toward animals or animal rescue groups and not expect to get your head cut off with nasty comments.
:lol: I knew it was coming. But I knew there are reasonable people that would know what I mean as well. It wasn't so much about the money as the "we'll decide if your worthy of Spike or wether we should keep him in a foster home longer" attitude. Isn't a vet referral enough to proove that you care for your pets if you currently have them. Shot records and the like?
CAWL's contract says they can come and inspect your home at any time after the adoption. Forever.
Maybe that's standard, even at the pound and Humane Society.
MysticalMom
12-19-2008, 02:30 PM
I have a good friend who fostered for a dog rescue in No. Va. This rescue got loads of puppies and dogs from shelters in North Carolina all the time. (This particular rescue was also busted some months back for having too many dogs at the facility and were shut down.)
At one time she was fostering 11 dogs at one time (kept separately from her own 3 HUGE great danes) that she fed, took care of, crate trained herself, loved, made sure they were vetted and fixed and got them ready for their forever homes. Once she got 5 YOUNG puppies with Parvo. She nursed those puppies back herself. Staying up all night and even giving them the intravenous fluids and everything! None of the other dogs in the house got it. I saw the work and time and vet care that went into those puppies. It took over her life! ( not to mention her gigantic house)
She had some that would come back to her over and over for one reason or another but she never gave up.
I know the application process can be tedious and sometimes even ridiculous, but rescuers usually just REALLY want to make sure that the placed dogs are placed in good, loving, FOREVER homes They get tired of and don't want them to end up chained up outside, being shuffled around anymore than they already have or worse yet, end up at a kill shelter.
Sorry Cam. I think It's worth the process and every penny!
Cowgirl
12-19-2008, 02:40 PM
Camily,
I learned a long time ago on this forum that you can never say anything that is negative toward animals or animal rescue groups and not expect to get your head cut off with nasty comments.
That's not true at all. I, for one, have complained about rescue groups being too picky before.
It wasn't so much about the money as the "we'll decide if your worthy of Spike or wether we should keep him in a foster home longer" attitude.
Well, your first sentence was about money. :shrug: That's why I responded about money.
BS Gal
12-19-2008, 04:22 PM
:lol: I knew it was coming. But I knew there are reasonable people that would know what I mean as well. It wasn't so much about the money as the "we'll decide if your worthy of Spike or wether we should keep him in a foster home longer" attitude. Isn't a vet referral enough to proove that you care for your pets if you currently have them. Shot records and the like?
CAWL's contract says they can come and inspect your home at any time after the adoption. Forever.
Maybe that's standard, even at the pound and Humane Society.
CAWL has never been back to my house in over a year. :shrug:
desertrat
12-19-2008, 04:49 PM
CAWL has never been back to my house in over a year. :shrug:
That you know of......:whistle:
camily
12-20-2008, 11:45 AM
That you know of......:whistle:
:lol: I guess it's just a clause put in incase they hear of abuse.
tipsymcgee
12-22-2008, 11:04 AM
The Beagle Rescue of Southern MD doesn't even talk to you if you don't have a fully fenced yard. And I mean fully fenced. That just seems so counteractive given the number of beagles. Some rescue orgs do come across kind of high and mighty.
I think the visit by most people is to really see the home and situation, not inspect. I think they're just getting a feel for you and the home situation, cleanliness, etc.
But if you believe in rescue, the difference in fees shouldn't stop you.
SPF001
12-22-2008, 01:26 PM
We have one dog from tri-county and one from SMAWL. We have had them over 6 years and with don't know if I would be accepted with the new rules/regulations. We have a vet out once a year to check on the farm animals (horses, goats, sheep) for blood work and rabies shots. The dogs go to a rabies clinic every couple years and we do all the other shots ourselves. I can't see paying a vet 3-10 times the cost of a vaccine on 20 animals. I order them online. The only one we can't do is rabies. so a $1 shot costs us between $5-$10 at the clinic. The vets wanted between $25 and $50.
We have asked to foster a dog for a couple places and they haven't asked us to fill out any background checks or anything so our next dog will be a foster dog. Our neighbor has 4 she fosters and over the last 3 years has only had 1 get a home. Sounds like a great deal to me, free healthy dog.
Think about it, it might make sense??
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