Is this a pass/fail test? Or just a test to see how the dog reacts? I was under the impression that dogs either pass or fail. I saw this (http://www.charlescounty.org/es/apps/availableanimals/details.jsp?ID=64279) dog who bit during the temperment test, but they're still adopting it. :confused:

Is this a pass/fail test? Or just a test to see how the dog reacts? I was under the impression that dogs either pass or fail. I saw this (http://www.charlescounty.org/es/apps/availableanimals/details.jsp?ID=64279) dog who bit during the temperment test, but they're still adopting it. :confused:

They typically grade on a curve.

They typically grade on a curve.

It must be a big curve. The dog bit! I just think it's a little (a lot) risky to adopt it out.

I personally wouldn't want a food aggressive dog.

Is this a pass/fail test? Or just a test to see how the dog reacts? I was under the impression that dogs either pass or fail. I saw this (http://www.charlescounty.org/es/apps/availableanimals/details.jsp?ID=64279) dog who bit during the temperment test, but they're still adopting it. :confused:


Well it's not like they're hiding the fact that it is food agressive. I think it's fine to adopt out a dog that bites as long as the person adopting it is aware of it. :shrug:

It must be a big curve. The dog bit! I just think it's a little (a lot) risky to adopt it out.


See, I have never understood the hysteria over dogs biting. ALL dogs will bite you if provoked in the right way. I know, I'm in the minority on this issue, but I really think humans need to learn to behave properly around dogs, just as much as dogs need to learn how to behave around humans. You can't put it all on the dog.

I'm not saying everyone should go out and adopt a dog that bites, but I don't think a dog biting when it is annoyed is a reason to have it put down. I'd bite too if I had to deal with some of these human retards in the world. :shrug:

See, I have never understood the hysteria over dogs biting. ALL dogs will bite you if provoked in the right way. I know, I'm in the minority on this issue, but I really think humans need to learn to behave properly around dogs, just as much as dogs need to learn how to behave around humans. You can't put it all on the dog.

I'm not saying everyone should go out and adopt a dog that bites, but I don't think a dog biting when it is annoyed is a reason to have it put down. I'd bite too if I had to deal with some of these human retards in the world. :shrug:

But you have to understand that ANY idiot can adopt a dog from Tri County. You are animal savvy...not everyone is..so a biting dog in the wrong hands is dangerous. And this is why I am an animal nutty and agree with most of what RESCUES do.

See, I have never understood the hysteria over dogs biting. ALL dogs will bite you if provoked in the right way. I know, I'm in the minority on this issue, but I really think humans need to learn to behave properly around dogs, just as much as dogs need to learn how to behave around humans. You can't put it all on the dog.

I'm not saying everyone should go out and adopt a dog that bites, but I don't think a dog biting when it is annoyed is a reason to have it put down. I'd bite too if I had to deal with some of these human retards in the world. :shrug:

You are not alone in your thoughts. I got some grief several years ago; a few user ID's ago, about my dog that bit one of my children. There could be a perfectly logical reason the dog bit during the testing, say for instances, they took food away from her. My child was bit when he tried to wake up our dog and had been warned several times he will bit when food is involved and when he is woken up.

I even have a cat that is food aggressive... she has gotten better but it took time. I just wouldn’t want to be the one administering a needle to end her life when there is the chance that somebody will come along, love her and work with her. You never know, underneath all the issues might be the best pet a person has ever had.

See, I have never understood the hysteria over dogs biting. ALL dogs will bite you if provoked in the right way. I know, I'm in the minority on this issue, but I really think humans need to learn to behave properly around dogs, just as much as dogs need to learn how to behave around humans. You can't put it all on the dog.

I'm not saying everyone should go out and adopt a dog that bites, but I don't think a dog biting when it is annoyed is a reason to have it put down. I'd bite too if I had to deal with some of these human retards in the world. :shrug:

I agree, for the most part. However, food aggression is absolutely unacceptable to me. I can understand (though I won't put up with) dogs biting if kids are too rough or something, but I don't think it's right to adopt out a dog that will bite if someone goes near his/her food.

I don't think people should have to learn to "behave" a certain way around a dog that is eating. I won't tolerate my dogs showing any aggression whatsoever around food. I know Tri-County is letting people know up front, but I think it's irresponsible of them to adopt that dog out.

There could be a perfectly logical reason the dog bit during the testing, say for instances, they took food away from her.

I'm sorry, but IMO that is NOT a logical reason for the dog to bite. If the kid falls or jumps on or hurts the dog, maybe. But food aggression? Someone needs to train the dog.

I'm sorry, but IMO that is NOT a logical reason for the dog to bite. If the kid falls or jumps on or hurts the dog, maybe. But food aggression? Someone needs to train the dog.

Absolutely. Food aggression is NOT acceptable and is fairly simple to avoid if you raise the puppy properly.

I'm sorry, but IMO that is NOT a logical reason for the dog to bite. If the kid falls or jumps on or hurts the dog, maybe. But food aggression? Someone needs to train the dog.

Look, you can call the shelter and offer to give that pup the big needle to the sky if it will make you feel better. :shrug: Besides killing her, do you have any other suggestions? What do you think the shelter should do?

Look, you can call the shelter and offer to give that pup the big needle to the sky if it will make you feel better. :shrug: Besides killing her, do you have any other suggestions?

Maybe they could give her to a rescue that could take time to train her?

Maybe they could give her to a rescue that could take time to train her?

And they most likely would hand her over if a rescue called and offered.

And they most likely would hand her over if a rescue called and offered.

I'm not saying they wouldn't. I'm saying I don't think they should offer this dog to the general public.

I'd rather see this dog get PTS than see a child of someone who think it's ok for dogs to bite over food get bit.

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It's quite admirable the length at which some of you go to love and protect animals. You should be commended for your good deeds.

However, it's quite alarming that some of you also elevate the rights of animals over those of people. Dogs get loose, does someone's child deserve to get hurt by this animal?

Dogs that bite should be put down. There's plenty of others to adopt out.

People that indiscriminately physically harm others aren't allowed to be loose in society, why should such an animal be?

Any of you care to elaborate on say the requirements of the Saint Mary's County Animal Control regulations in regards to keeping a vicious animal? Vicious would be a dog that bites, correct?

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This is interesting reading:

A. For the purpose of these Regulations a dangerous and/or vicious animal shall be defined as:

(1) Any animal which has inflicted injury on a human being without provocation on public or private property.

I guess waking a dog up and getting bit would be provocation, yes?

G. Any animal considered by the Sheltering Authority to be unhealthy, dangerous vicious or otherwise unsafe shall not be placed for adoption.

http://www.stmarysmd.com/Emergencycomm/docs/AnimalControlRegulations.pdf

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OK -- my two cents -- we adopted a dog that had food aggressions, the shelter we adopted her from had no clue of any background info on the dog. She passed all tests except food aggression.

After we got her home and settled, she still scarfed her food like no tomorrow, with that we came to the conclusion that the dog must have had to fend for herself for awhile which may have brought that on.

We've had her for almost 4 years now and she is wonderful, it took awhile but she has done a complete 360. She does not show any signs of food aggression now, we can even take her bones without her going ballistic.

So my two cents is that as long as the shelter is up front about it, a family with children more or less wouldnt entertain the idea of a food aggressive dog, so if capable adults are aware of the situation and are able to handle it, then I think the dog should have the chance for a second chance of happiness.

Most of our older dogs were considered highly aggressive/unadoptable when they first came to us. Even our worst one eventually turned the corner and became socialble. It takes time but even the worst offenders can be taught and reprogramed.
Just got back from the vet with our past worst offender. Years ago he would have killed anything and everything that crossed his path. Now he's just the greatest old boy you could want. Our vet even commented on his temperment since his chart said otherwise.
Unfortuantely, we found out tonight he has cancer and won't be with us very much longer.

Most of our older dogs were considered highly aggressive/unadoptable when they first came to us. Even our worst one eventually turned the corner and became socialble. It takes time but even the worst offenders can be taught and reprogramed.
Just got back from the vet with our past worst offender. Years ago he would have killed anything and everything that crossed his path. Now he's just the greatest old boy you could want. Our vet even commented on his temperment since his chart said otherwise.
Unfortuantely, we found out tonight he has cancer and won't be with us very much longer.

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Absolutely. Food aggression is NOT acceptable and is fairly simple to avoid if you raise the puppy properly.


Well some dogs have just lived jacked up lives, and some dogs are simply retarded. Looks to me that they did full disclosure on this dog and you have to choice to adopt or not adopt fully knowing that the dog has the tendency to bite. :shrug:

I can easily see myself going to get this stupid dog, just because now I feel bad for it because of all you guys griping about him. :lol:

However, it's quite alarming that some of you also elevate the rights of animals over those of people. Dogs get loose, does someone's child deserve to get hurt by this animal?

Dogs that bite should be put down. There's plenty of others to adopt out.



Oh bs. :bs: I'm so sick of hearing the "what about the poor children?" line it just makes me want to vomit. For one thing, parents need to teach their children that animals aren't stuffed animals and it is unacceptable to run up to a dog and try and hug the life out of it. Years ago my sisters dog had to go into lockup because of some stupid kid an an equally stupid parent. He was a toy poodle and it HATED kids. She was out walking him and some window licker kid came up and started messing with him even though my sister explicitly stated, "don't touch him, he does not like kids". What happens? Dur! He gets bit and the parent blames the dog and my sister. :banghead:

I'm not an animal nutty, but I think it is ridiculous to kill an animal because they aren't perfectly passive. :shrug:

I However, food aggression is absolutely unacceptable to me. I can understand (though I won't put up with) dogs biting if kids are too rough or something, but I don't think it's right to adopt out a dog that will bite if someone goes near his/her food.

I don't think people should have to learn to "behave" a certain way around a dog that is eating. I won't tolerate my dogs showing any aggression whatsoever around food. I know Tri-County is letting people know up front, but I think it's irresponsible of them to adopt that dog out.

Why the hell would you want to screw with a dog when they're eating in the first place? Wouldn't you get pissed if someone was screwing around with you while you were trying to eat?

I think I'm going to have to adopt that dog and walk him around the neighborhood so he can take the faces off all the precious children. :lol:

Why the hell would you want to screw with a dog when they're eating in the first place? Wouldn't you get pissed if someone was screwing around with you while you were trying to eat?



You've never needed to move a food bowl or add something to it? :confused: Have you ever had a dog pick up something it shouldn't eat? Ever need to take away a bone or rawhide or something? I'm not going to tippy-toe around any of my animals, sorry. :shrug:



And Wharf, sorry about your dog. :huggy:

You've never needed to move a food bowl or add something to it? :confused: Have you ever had a dog pick up something it shouldn't eat? Ever need to take away a bone or rawhide or something? I'm not going to tippy-toe around any of my animals, sorry. :shrug:





If you have an issue with that type of behavior then don't have that type of dog. Easy peasy. I personally would never own a Pit, Chow, Rotweiller, or German Sheppard. It doesn't matter how sweet and well behaved they are. ALL animals have the capacity to have a bad day and snap. How many stories have you heard on the news about a Pit tearing someone's face off and the owner's saying "he's such a sweet dog, has never bitten anyone before"? So I just have no desire to have that sort of dog. I don't expect the rest of the world to feel the same way and I'm not shocked and appalled that people would own them or shelters adopt them out. Know what I'm sayin? :shrug:

If you have an issue with that type of behavior then don't have that type of dog. Easy peasy. I personally would never own a Pit, Chow, Rotweiller, or German Sheppard. It doesn't matter how sweet and well behaved they are. ALL animals have the capacity to have a bad day and snap. How many stories have you heard on the news about a Pit tearing someone's face off and the owner's saying "he's such a sweet dog, has never bitten anyone before"? So I just have no desire to have that sort of dog. I don't expect the rest of the world to feel the same way and I'm not shocked and appalled that people would own them or shelters adopt them out. Know what I'm sayin? :shrug:

I know what you're saying. The main reason of the post was to clarify the point of the temperment test. I was under the assumption that dogs either passed or failed. I have seen places that absolutely will not adopt a dog that bites during the test. :shrug: Guess Tri-County isn't like that.

I just worry about the dog ending up in the wrong hands. :shrug: It's not really that big of a deal. :lol:

Why the hell would you want to screw with a dog when they're eating in the first place? Wouldn't you get pissed if someone was screwing around with you while you were trying to eat?



Christy, that is a control issue..if the dogs wins that, then he wins many other situations. The dog has to know he gets his food from you and he is NOT the boss.

See, I have never understood the hysteria over dogs biting. ALL dogs will bite you if provoked in the right way. I know, I'm in the minority on this issue, but I really think humans need to learn to behave properly around dogs, just as much as dogs need to learn how to behave around humans. You can't put it all on the dog.

I'm not saying everyone should go out and adopt a dog that bites, but I don't think a dog biting when it is annoyed is a reason to have it put down. I'd bite too if I had to deal with some of these human retards in the world. :shrug:

I'm with you there!!:buddies: Very well put! One of my fosters was a turn in because he bit their child, now this was a young puppy. We went to see him at the shelter and not an aggressive bone in his body, so we pulled him!! The entire time he spent with our family, two smaller children and neighbors little ones he never even attempted to bite. New family was told he was a turn in due to biting. He is now 90# of love and adored by his family, the sweetest guy! This little guy would have been put down had he not been pulled by the rescue, would have been a shame.

But you have to understand that ANY idiot can adopt a dog from Tri County. You are animal savvy...not everyone is..so a biting dog in the wrong hands is dangerous. And this is why I am an animal nutty and agree with most of what RESCUES do.

That is a good point. The pup we took could only be pulled by a rescue and then adopted out to the right home.

W/ any temperment test, it judges how the dog does on that particular day at that particular time. Many of the dogs that go to Tri Cty have been wandering around as strays, scrounging for food, neglected, etc. Put the dogs in the shelter environment - w/ the stress of 50 dogs barking/howling/crying, the smell of death from the gas chamber, it's usually a totally different environment for many of the dogs, being caged, not much interaction - it's hard to say how they might react to a temp test. I've seen dogs pass temp tests w/ flying colors, only to have issues show up later...It's not always an accurate measurement of a dog's true temperment.

W/ any temperment test, it judges how the dog does on that particular day at that particular time. Many of the dogs that go to Tri Cty have been wandering around as strays, scrounging for food, neglected, etc. Put the dogs in the shelter environment - w/ the stress of 50 dogs barking/howling/crying, the smell of death from the gas chamber, it's usually a totally different environment for many of the dogs, being caged, not much interaction - it's hard to say how they might react to a temp test. I've seen dogs pass temp tests w/ flying colors, only to have issues show up later...It's not always an accurate measurement of a dog's true temperment.

Exactly! I'll probably get blasted for this but the shelter is the place people go who don't want the hassle of adopting from a rescue. Many of these people just want a dog (or cat) and they pick it from a picture, etc. and aren't aware of many of the problems that can arise with a dog (or cat) who's found itself at the shelter (or rescue).

Often the dogs and cats aren't at the shelter long enough to get a good feel for their true personalities.

OK -- my two cents -- we adopted a dog that had food aggressions, the shelter we adopted her from had no clue of any background info on the dog. She passed all tests except food aggression.

After we got her home and settled, she still scarfed her food like no tomorrow, with that we came to the conclusion that the dog must have had to fend for herself for awhile which may have brought that on.

We've had her for almost 4 years now and she is wonderful, it took awhile but she has done a complete 360. She does not show any signs of food aggression now, we can even take her bones without her going ballistic.

So my two cents is that as long as the shelter is up front about it, a family with children more or less wouldnt entertain the idea of a food aggressive dog, so if capable adults are aware of the situation and are able to handle it, then I think the dog should have the chance for a second chance of happiness.

Yes, we have one of our personal dogs now for 11-12 years. We adopted her from a rescue after she had been abandoned. According to the lady that turned her in, she saw her scavenging through trash cans daily, trying to go into homes where she got kicked at and ran off, just to find something to eat. She was also pregnant. It took her a long while after coming home to understand, what we fed her was not going to be her last meal. She soon got over the food issue.

I currently have a Rottweiler that is food agressive (or at least I won't push it), he still growls at me after I have put the food down. BUT I won't mess w/a dog once I have given them their food. It's just that - Thier Food -

BUT, when walking him I can take things away from him that he's not supposed to have, so he gets his food and I leave him alone... We walk and he drops the box turtle that he's not supposed to eat... Sounds like a fair deal to me.

Exactly! I'll probably get blasted for this but the shelter is the place people go who don't want the hassle of adopting from a rescue.

Well if some rescues weren't so ate up with themselves, more people would probably go the rescue route. And like we've discussed before, what makes one breed of dog more rescuable than other's? You don't have many rescues that take in your average mutt. Most are breed specific. I'm not knocking rescues, they serve their purpose and do good things, I'm not disputing that. I've fallen in love with the rescue I'm going through because they do take in the worst of the downtrodden. Dogs that have special needs and that most people think are better off put down.

Anyway, I've gone off on a tangent. :lol:

I hope the biter gets adopted, but he's going to be a tough sell for anyone, poor guy. :frown:

I currently have a Rottweiler that is food agressive (or at least I won't push it), he still growls at me after I have put the food down. BUT I won't mess w/a dog once I have given them their food. It's just that - Thier Food -

BUT, when walking him I can take things away from him that he's not supposed to have, so he gets his food and I leave him alone... We walk and he drops the box turtle that he's not supposed to eat... Sounds like a fair deal to me.

you aren't doing that dog any favors by letting it continue to be food aggressive. You are potentially fostering a very dangerous situation. A dog that size needs to know that no matter what, aggression is not allowed. If he feels its ok to chase its owner (or handler in your case) away, what do you think it will do to some unsuspecting kid who stumbles against him while he is eating? can you say face transplant?

be responsible, train that dog to not be food aggressive

And Wharf, sorry about your dog. :huggy:[/QUOTE]


Our dog Buddy left us this evening. Years ago he would of made a meal out of the bunny (who passed about a year ago) but they became the best of friends.
Buddy was the worst offender to come through our door but with time and patience he became a wonderful companion.
Just got done planting him next to the bunny. Very sad here tonight.

W/ any temperment test, it judges how the dog does on that particular day at that particular time. Many of the dogs that go to Tri Cty have been wandering around as strays, scrounging for food, neglected, etc. Put the dogs in the shelter environment - w/ the stress of 50 dogs barking/howling/crying, the smell of death from the gas chamber, it's usually a totally different environment for many of the dogs, being caged, not much interaction - it's hard to say how they might react to a temp test. I've seen dogs pass temp tests w/ flying colors, only to have issues show up later...It's not always an accurate measurement of a dog's true temperment.

Exactly, If you were picked up in the doggy patty wagon and dropped off at the pet morgue with only days to live and you were hungry and cold, might you not woof down the kibble in front of you?

I wish I had the space, money and time to love them all. I find this all really sad. I also appreciate that the website does give full disclosure about this dogs behavior even during the food test.

And Wharf, sorry about your dog. :huggy:


Our dog Buddy left us this evening. Years ago he would of made a meal out of the bunny (who passed about a year ago) but they became the best of friends.
Buddy was the worst offender to come through our door but with time and patience he became a wonderful companion.
Just got done planting him next to the bunny. Very sad here tonight.[/QUOTE]

Sorry about your pup. How sweet they can turn around to be!!!:huggy:

Our dog Buddy left us this evening. Years ago he would of made a meal out of the bunny (who passed about a year ago) but they became the best of friends.
Buddy was the worst offender to come through our door but with time and patience he became a wonderful companion.
Just got done planting him next to the bunny. Very sad here tonight.

Sorry about your pup. :huggy:

Our dog Buddy left us this evening. Years ago he would of made a meal out of the bunny (who passed about a year ago) but they became the best of friends.
Buddy was the worst offender to come through our door but with time and patience he became a wonderful companion.
Just got done planting him next to the bunny. Very sad here tonight.

:huggy:

Our dog Buddy left us this evening. Years ago he would of made a meal out of the bunny (who passed about a year ago) but they became the best of friends.
Buddy was the worst offender to come through our door but with time and patience he became a wonderful companion.
Just got done planting him next to the bunny. Very sad here tonight.

Hugs to you and Mrs. W.R. You all have big hearts! :huggy:

Wharf -- I am very very sorry about buddy passing. :huggy:

And Wharf, sorry about your dog. :huggy:


Our dog Buddy left us this evening. Years ago he would of made a meal out of the bunny (who passed about a year ago) but they became the best of friends.
Buddy was the worst offender to come through our door but with time and patience he became a wonderful companion.
Just got done planting him next to the bunny. Very sad here tonight.[/QUOTE]

So sorry...:huggy:

you aren't doing that dog any favors by letting it continue to be food aggressive. You are potentially fostering a very dangerous situation. A dog that size needs to know that no matter what, aggression is not allowed. If he feels its ok to chase its owner (or handler in your case) away, what do you think it will do to some unsuspecting kid who stumbles against him while he is eating? can you say face transplant?

be responsible, train that dog to not be food aggressive

IF I wanted to take his food away I could, but there is no need to, when he gets things he's NOT supposed to have I can get that.

And there is NO way a kid could ever stumble against him when he's eating so that is not a worry I have to even consider.

IF I wanted to take his food away I could, but there is no need to, when he gets things he's NOT supposed to have I can get that.

And there is NO way a kid could ever stumble against him when he's eating so that is not a worry I have to even consider.

either way, not training this out of him isn't doing him any favors....


i only mentioned it because i thought you were in the rescue buisness and assumed this dog would eventually be going to another home, one you cannot control that very well may have children occasionaly around.......

either way, not training this out of him isn't doing him any favors....


i only mentioned it because i thought you were in the rescue buisness and assumed this dog would eventually be going to another home, one you cannot control that very well may have children occasionaly around.......

I am in rescue - but HE isn't.... and I don't have kids or friends with kids that come around.

I know what you are saying and "if" he was to be adoptable I would worry about it, but as it is, since I can get things away he's not supposed to have him not wanting me to mess with his food bowl is the least of my concerns (and I could if I needed to.)

I am in rescue - but HE isn't.... and I don't have kids or friends with kids that come around.

I know what you are saying and "if" he was to be adoptable I would worry about it, but as it is, since I can get things away he's not supposed to have him not wanting me to mess with his food bowl is the least of my concerns (and I could if I needed to.)

Are you ready to rummmmble!!! K_K can put the smackdown on him.....:lmao:

Well it's not like they're hiding the fact that it is food agressive. I think it's fine to adopt out a dog that bites as long as the person adopting it is aware of it. :shrug:


They seem pretty straight forward. Check out this guys description.

Animal Details (http://www.charlescounty.org/es/apps/availableanimals/details.jsp?ID=65137)

They seem pretty straight forward. Check out this guys description.

Animal Details (http://www.charlescounty.org/es/apps/availableanimals/details.jsp?ID=65137)

I just brought Odin home today and we will work on what bratty habits he has.

What everyone needs to remember, when they do these tests, they REALLY push them and repeat everything sometimes up to 5 or 6 times. AND they do not get to redo their testing, so their temp test is only a snapshot of that particular timeframe. It doesn't take into consideration that the dog's ribs are showing and it hasn't had a good meal in weeks, he will flunk the temp test, those things are NOT considered.

And I think Odin will be a great pet for someone...

I just brought Odin home today and we will work on what bratty habits he has.

What everyone needs to remember, when they do these tests, they REALLY push them and repeat everything sometimes up to 5 or 6 times. AND they do not get to redo their testing, so their temp test is only a snapshot of that particular timeframe. It doesn't take into consideration that the dog's ribs are showing and it hasn't had a good meal in weeks, he will flunk the temp test, those things are NOT considered.

And I think Odin will be a great pet for someone...

:clap: way to go KK!!!! Let me know what I can help with! :yahoo:

:clap: way to go KK!!!! Let me know what I can help with! :yahoo:

He had his first lesson tonight when I let the other little pit mix out first and then took him out, he wanted to attack her so since he was on leash I pulled up and he came off his feet (I forgot how small he is). Anyway after two more of those he decided it would be in his best interest to ignore her, so anytime she got close he just turned the other way.. But he really is cute!

I will definitely need to get him out and about soon, maybe I can come around the barn or something if there are a lot of people there.

He had his first lesson tonight when I let the other little pit mix out first and then took him out, he wanted to attack her so since he was on leash I pulled up and he came off his feet (I forgot how small he is). Anyway after two more of those he decided it would be in his best interest to ignore her, so anytime she got close he just turned the other way.. But he really is cute!

I will definitely need to get him out and about soon, maybe I can come around the barn or something if there are a lot of people there.

Absolutely!!! Give me a ring and we can arrange whatever you think he needs! There are always a boat load of cats running around, as well as two resident dogs (a 4 year old english pointer and a 4 month old lab), the horses, the cows, and whatever people you think would be needed. :buddies: and I could always bring one or two of my 4 dogs if needed. Although you probably have plenty of dogs to socialize him with... :lmao:

Edit: I could even bring a couple of agility jumps to see what he might do with them!

cool, that will work.

This morning he's definitely decided it's healthier to ignore the other dogs. I had him, the same pitty mix and my 10 yr old lab female out and he didn't even try to challenge the lab (I think he's a pretty quick learner) - but the one of the chow boys got out.. I quickly picked him up as I knew that would be ugly....