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DoWhat
01-01-2009, 12:31 PM
We are getting MetroCast internet (finally ran the fiber down our street) installed at the house.
My plan is to have the modem connected to the office computer, and a wireless router so I can get a signal in the worshop outside and online gaming in the basement.

I would like some good suggestions on a wireless router to be able to give me a good signal and high speed.

Heard something about N (?) routers.
Any suggestions?

misshelper
01-01-2009, 12:54 PM
I recently set up wireless at the house and use this (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8998506&st=routers&lp=6&type=product&cp=1&id=1218007383662) router. So far so good.

Jeff
01-01-2009, 12:57 PM
I recently set up wireless at the house and use this (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8998506&st=routers&lp=6&type=product&cp=1&id=1218007383662) router. So far so good.

The guys at Best Buy told me that was about the best going right now. Will allow for faster sppeds in the future if/when the tchnology allows it.

I am still using G at the house but if I were to upgrade right now I would likely go ahead and get N

BoyGenius
01-01-2009, 02:17 PM
We are getting MetroCast internet (finally ran the fiber down our street) installed at the house.
My plan is to have the modem connected to the office computer, and a wireless router so I can get a signal in the worshop outside and online gaming in the basement.

I would like some good suggestions on a wireless router to be able to give me a good signal and high speed.

Heard something about N (?) routers.
Any suggestions?

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.7) 320x240; Verizon-FL; Blackberry-B; Windows Mobile 6.0 Standard)

I like Linksys, because you have the expertise and the lasting power of Cisco behind it. Apple makes some nice ones, but they're brutally expensive. Although probably some of the easiest to setup and protect. Some of the smaller companies may not survive the economic downturn we are in.

Don't get too hung up on the speed game. I believe wireless G is something like a 54 meg transfer rate. Your Internet connection might be lucky to do 6. I would get an "N" though or the latest within price reasoning.

Regardless of what you buy remember these things.

1. Change the default admin password to the router as soon as you deploy it. The manual will tell you how.

2. Password protect the wireless network and use the strongest encryption level the router offers to keep neighbors out of it. MAC address filtering protection for the network is also good, but can be restrictive.

3. Bookmark the manufacturer's webpage for the router and check it occasionally for firmware upgrades. Sometimes they upgrade the firmware to fix security holes or malfunctions. I've seen two to three upgrades in a year on some routers.

Good Luck

G1G4
01-01-2009, 02:33 PM
I use Linksys. People have told me not to touch Netgear with a ten foot pole. Belkin (I think) has a digital N router that shows your transfer, how much you've transferred, and etc etc.

BoyGenius
01-01-2009, 02:41 PM
I use Linksys. People have told me not to touch Netgear with a ten foot pole. Belkin (I think) has a digital N router that shows your transfer, how much you've transferred, and etc etc.

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows CE; IEMobile 7.7) 320x240; Verizon-FL; Blackberry-B; Windows Mobile 6.0 Standard)

I've got a question for you, does Belkin actually manufacture anything or just stick their name on it? I've always been curious about that.

:popcorn:

sanchezf
01-01-2009, 03:09 PM
Question

My son has XBox360 and just and XBox live card for Christmas.
I have a wirelesss router in my house can he connect to that or does it have to be hard wired?

GopherM
01-01-2009, 03:13 PM
I use Linksys. People have told me not to touch Netgear with a ten foot pole. Belkin (I think) has a digital N router that shows your transfer, how much you've transferred, and etc etc.

I've been using the Netgear Extended Range router for more than 2 years now and have had great service from it. I bought one for my daughter over a year ago and the signal level is great throughout her entire large house. No drop outs and plenty of signal strength. It has good strong encryption and the setup is very easy.

My internet security software lets me know if anyone is piggybacking and I have never had an intrusion.

Wonder why someone recommended against Netgear???

unixpirate
01-01-2009, 04:56 PM
We are getting MetroCast internet (finally ran the fiber down our street) installed at the house.
My plan is to have the modem connected to the office computer, and a wireless router so I can get a signal in the worshop outside and online gaming in the basement.

I would like some good suggestions on a wireless router to be able to give me a good signal and high speed.

Heard something about N (?) routers.
Any suggestions?

I've got a couple routers laying around the house that need power supply's if you want one. Belkins, Linksys..

G1G4
01-01-2009, 05:22 PM
Firmware issues, tech support problems and incompatibility is what I've been told. I've personally not used Netgear. I only use Linksys and Belkin for my networking.

BadGirl
01-01-2009, 05:26 PM
We are getting MetroCast internet (finally ran the fiber down our street) installed at the house.
My plan is to have the modem connected to the office computer, and a wireless router so I can get a signal in the worshop outside and online gaming in the basement.

I would like some good suggestions on a wireless router to be able to give me a good signal and high speed.

Heard something about N (?) routers.
Any suggestions?

I'm at my sisters house in VA, Bob set up a Home Theater for her, went to the cable office to switch out for a HD box. While he was there he noticed they had wireless cable modem/ routers. He asked, and it came with the internet service, no extra charge. Now she has a single unit, which is covered by the cable company. Any issue with internet or wireless conneciton their tech support will cover.

He comes home with a new upgraded HD/DVR box for the living room, another free digital box for upstairs, and a free wireless router. He's a genius.

Peter Forsberg
01-03-2009, 07:15 PM
We are getting MetroCast internet (finally ran the fiber down our street) installed at the house.
My plan is to have the modem connected to the office computer, and a wireless router so I can get a signal in the worshop outside and online gaming in the basement.

I would like some good suggestions on a wireless router to be able to give me a good signal and high speed.

Heard something about N (?) routers.
Any suggestions?You might have problems getting a signal outside and in the basement. I have a single floor house and have no problem.

AK-74me
01-04-2009, 06:55 AM
I'm at my sisters house in VA, Bob set up a Home Theater for her, went to the cable office to switch out for a HD box. While he was there he noticed they had wireless cable modem/ routers. He asked, and it came with the internet service, no extra charge. Now she has a single unit, which is covered by the cable company. Any issue with internet or wireless conneciton their tech support will cover.

He comes home with a new upgraded HD/DVR box for the living room, another free digital box for upstairs, and a free wireless router. He's a genius.


What?

Free internet service, for how long? That is hard to believe that you an buy a router and they just give you free unlimited internet service.

wxtornado
01-04-2009, 11:05 AM
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2. Password protect the wireless network and use the strongest encryption level the router offers to keep neighbors out of it. MAC address filtering protection for the network is also good, but can be restrictive.

Or, leave the access point wide open for your neighbors to piggyback off of, then upload horse porn to their computers.........

Floyd2004
01-05-2009, 03:10 PM
Question

My son has XBox360 and just and XBox live card for Christmas.
I have a wirelesss router in my house can he connect to that or does it have to be hard wired?

Wire the 360 to the router with the network cable.
If you want wireless you have to buy the 100 dollar adapter.

FYI I bought the adapter because I NEED wireless where the 360 is and it works good if not better than my friends wired box.

DoWhat
02-08-2009, 08:27 AM
We are getting MetroCast internet (finally ran the fiber down our street) installed at the house.
My plan is to have the modem connected to the office computer, and a wireless router so I can get a signal in the worshop outside and online gaming in the basement.


Thanks for all the advice.
Modem is installed, and I went with the NetGear, RangeMax Dual Band Wireless Router.

This is my speed from the workshop, via the router.

BOP
02-08-2009, 08:33 AM
Wire the 360 to the router with the network cable.
If you want wireless you have to buy the 100 dollar adapter.

FYI I bought the adapter because I NEED wireless where the 360 is and it works good if not better than my friends wired box.

I bought a refurbished xbox adapter for around 65 dollars from Game Stop. Works fine with my wireless network. Once I entered the MAC address into my router's counsole CORRECTLY, that is.

:whistle:

Jigglepuff
02-08-2009, 09:12 AM
Thanks for all the advice.
Modem is installed, and I went with the NetGear, RangeMax Dual Band Wireless Router.

This is my speed from the workshop, via the router.COOL!! Thats what I'm getting from metrocast right now.:buddies:

donmagicyourmom
02-08-2009, 02:51 PM
Linksys WRT54G for about $50

DoWhat
02-08-2009, 04:40 PM
COOL!! Thats what I'm getting from metrocast right now.:buddies:

If somebody searches for a wireless signal in the neighborhood, mine is labeled, "NotYours".

Makes me chuckle everytime I search for a signal.

Chasey_Lane
02-08-2009, 06:29 PM
Thanks for all the advice.
Modem is installed, and I went with the NetGear, RangeMax Dual Band Wireless Router.
We switched from Linksys to NetGear last week. At first we had bad, bad connection problems and hubby was going to switch back to Linksys. That is until we discovered our new Dell computer didn't have the NG upgrade. All is good now and we like it. :yay:

Jigglepuff
02-08-2009, 08:13 PM
If somebody searches for a wireless signal in the neighborhood, mine is labeled, "NotYours".

Makes me chuckle everytime I search for a signal.

:killingme Nice!! Mine shows up as a MAC address WEP encrypted.

Floyd2004
02-09-2009, 09:09 AM
If somebody searches for a wireless signal in the neighborhood, mine is labeled, "NotYours".

Makes me chuckle everytime I search for a signal.


I used to use "MineNotYours" at first.

CrashTest
02-16-2009, 03:20 PM
I used to use "MineNotYours" at first.

On home wireless networks, can't you just turn off beaconing altogether?

GWguy
02-16-2009, 03:26 PM
On home wireless networks, can't you just turn off beaconing altogether?

Yes, it's called the SSID.

CrashTest
02-16-2009, 03:35 PM
Yes, it's called the SSID.


Right - seems to me that disabling the beaconing of your SSID would be the way to go. Otherwise your neighbor could mess with you by finding out what your SSID is and then he can beacon your same SSID. Then you end up accessing the Internet via his access point without your knowledge or consent. Then you're really screwed cause he can steal all your security credentials.

GWguy
02-16-2009, 03:47 PM
Right - seems to me that disabling the beaconing of your SSID would be the way to go. Otherwise your neighbor could mess with you by finding out what your SSID is and then he can beacon your same SSID. Then you end up accessing the Internet via his access point without your knowledge or consent. Then you're really screwed cause he can steal all your security credentials.

Probably not. If there are two or more SSIDs that are the same, the protocol will choose the strongest signal unless you specifically override it. The neighbor's signal would be much weaker than your own.

However, turning on encryption, changing the default SSID (because if you know the default SSID, you know the manufacturer, and therein the default password for the router), changing the router default password, and turning off the SSID will pretty much protect you. Only someone with very sophisticated listening hardware can decode your signal, and let's face it.... if they can do that, why would they be breaking in to someone's house net when they could use that technology to break far more valuable systems?

CrashTest
02-16-2009, 04:14 PM
Industrial strength wireless solutions use a cryptograpic hash in the beacon frames called a Management Integrity Check (MIC) and if the client and AP don't pass the MIC, you can't get in even if you have the same SSID. Just wasn't sure if home wireless systems use the same type of features.

I image for people who live in a large high rise apartment buildings, you've got beaconing SSIDs all over the place and in many cases, your neighbors signal will appear stronger than your own. Probably safe for folks living in single family homes but if I lived in some Manhattan high rise, I wouldn't even beacon my SSID just to be safe.

WildCherry
02-16-2009, 06:57 PM
If somebody searches for a wireless signal in the neighborhood, mine is labeled, "NotYours".

Makes me chuckle everytime I search for a signal.

Mine is labeled LPCityZoo, and it is WPA encrypted so no one gets in there!

CrashTest
02-17-2009, 07:23 AM
Mine is labeled LPCityZoo, and it is WPA encrypted so no one gets in there!

Cool.

WPA > WEP.

WEP uses RC4 encryption which can be hacked in about a minute using free tools available on the Internet.

Floyd2004
02-17-2009, 11:12 AM
WEP uses RC4 encryption which can be hacked in about a minute using free tools available on the Internet.

Fun for war-driving... Atleast thats what ive been known to call it.
Drive into a apartment complex and randomly lock people out of their own networks after you take over it.

I personally use a WPA code on my network...

SoMDGirl42
02-17-2009, 11:26 AM
Fun for war-driving... Atleast thats what ive been known to call it.
Drive into a apartment complex and randomly lock people out of their own networks after you take over it.

I personally use a WPA code on my network...

How exactly does one do this? :whistle: Not that I'd ever do that, but you know, for future reference in case anyone should do this to me.

CrashTest
02-17-2009, 11:39 AM
Fun for war-driving... Atleast thats what ive been known to call it.
Drive into a apartment complex and randomly lock people out of their own networks after you take over it.

I personally use a WPA code on my network...

Not me. Even if I can crack the encryption in a minute, that's one less minute I get to spend laying on the couch doing nothing.

sockgirl77
02-17-2009, 11:44 AM
COOL!! Thats what I'm getting from metrocast right now.:buddies:

When did they start providing wireless routers?

Floyd2004
02-18-2009, 08:24 AM
How exactly does one do this? :whistle: Not that I'd ever do that, but you know, for future reference in case anyone should do this to me.

Just search around. There are TONS of free cracking software for this sort of thing.


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