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This_person
01-08-2009, 01:23 PM
Someone probably posted this already, and I missed it. If so, I apologize in advance.
I always love these, the statistics that demonstrate where our country is actually headedSome unreported stats about the 2008 election
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 Presidential election:
- Number of States won by: Democrats: 20; Republicans: 30
- Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000; Republicans: 2,427,000
- Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million; Republicans: 143 million
- Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2; Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in rented or government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
frogman123
01-08-2009, 02:27 PM
oh my God- drop it.... the election is over!!!
This_person
01-08-2009, 02:27 PM
oh my God- drop it.... the election is over!!!Are you kidding? I have 8 years to make up for!!! :lol:
MMDad
01-08-2009, 04:03 PM
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oh my God- drop it.... the election is over!!!
:confused: Why would you read the elections forum then whine because someone is discussing the election?
Do you whine when people discuss dogs in the dog forum?
Ken King
01-08-2009, 04:56 PM
Someone probably posted this already, and I missed it. If so, I apologize in advance.
I always love these, the statistics that demonstrate where our country is actually headedSome unreported stats about the 2008 election
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 Presidential election:
- Number of States won by: Democrats: 20; Republicans: 30
- Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000; Republicans: 2,427,000
- Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million; Republicans: 143 million
- Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2; Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in rented or government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.
Isn't this another regurgitation of the same data from 2000 that Professor Joseph Olson says he didn't write? Hell, it even has the university wrong. :killingme
BoyGenius
01-08-2009, 05:05 PM
Isn't this another regurgitation of the same data from 2000 that Professor Joseph Olson says he didn't write? Hell, it even has the university wrong. :killingme
TP, aka Toilet Paper is an easily fooled P.O.S.
Description: Email flier
Circulating since: 2000
Status: Mostly false
Scary Election Statistics - Urban Legends (http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/election_stats.htm)
:popcorn:
cwo_ghwebb
01-08-2009, 08:35 PM
TP, aka Toilet Paper is an easily fooled P.O.S.
Scary Election Statistics - Urban Legends (http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/election_stats.htm)
:popcorn:
Actually, he's just a smear.
This_person
01-09-2009, 07:52 AM
TP, aka Toilet Paper is an easily fooled P.O.S.
Scary Election Statistics - Urban Legends (http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/government/a/election_stats.htm)
:popcorn:Comments pending......
Powerful stuff there, Boy
Look here (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/interactives/campaign08/election/uscounties.html)
The numbers listed in the OP are wrong, but the concepts are correct.
awpitt
01-12-2009, 01:48 PM
Someone probably posted this already, and I missed it. If so, I apologize in advance.
I always love these, the statistics that demonstrate where our country is actually headedSome unreported stats about the 2008 election
Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota, points out some interesting facts concerning the 2008 Presidential election:
- Number of States won by: Democrats: 20; Republicans: 30
- Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000; Republicans: 2,427,000
- Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million; Republicans: 143 million
- Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2; Republicans: 2.1
Professor Olson adds: "In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in rented or government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare..."
Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the "complacency and apathy" phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the "governmental dependency" phase.Since livestock, trees, acrage, mountains, etc. don't vote, the statement doesn't hold much water.
Actaully, people vote. Each person gets one vote. It's not based on how much land one owns. This attachment more accurately represents how our country voted because our elections are determined by people who vote not by how many acres of wilderness a state or county has.
This_person
01-12-2009, 05:24 PM
Each person gets one vote. It's not based on how much land one owns. This attachment more accurately represents how our country voted because our elections are determined by people who vote.As I said, the numbers were inaccurate, but the concept is valid.
The concept is that people who tend to take care of themselves and help others (the type of people who make it to home/land ownership, lower levels of crime and unemployment, etc) tend to vote conservative. The type of people who tend to have other take care of them tend to vote liberal.
crabcake
01-14-2009, 06:41 AM
As I said, the numbers were inaccurate, but the concept is valid.
The concept is that people who tend to take care of themselves and help others (the type of people who make it to home/land ownership, lower levels of crime and unemployment, etc) tend to vote conservative. The type of people who tend to have other take care of them tend to vote liberal.
I agree with that theory. I heard on the news amidst the election covereage someone say, "Poor people have been voting for democrats for 50 years, and look -- they're still POOR!" Go figure! You can lead the horse to water ... :ohwell:
Gooseneck
01-14-2009, 08:46 AM
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship. The average age of the world's greatest civilizations has been 200 years."
"Great nations rise and fall. The people go from bondage to spiritual truth, to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependence, from dependence back again to bondage."
- Author Unknown
jetmonkey
01-14-2009, 09:59 AM
Intelligent, sophisticated and talented urbanites vote democrat. Ignorant hicks vote republican.
This_person
01-14-2009, 10:24 AM
Intelligent, sophisticated and talented urbanites vote democrat. Ignorant hicks vote republican.While this may be true, neither one of these exist in high enough numbers to really be a factor.
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