I grew up wanting one...and they are back!

I started "building" one today and hit DELETE!

The huge gold chevy emblem on the grille is a turn off.

It's a statistical fact that women are the main buyers in the auto market and have the final say when there is a couple involved.

If I want a silver Camaro it should not be spoiled with a huge gold pimp lookalike grille ornament. Fashion disaster. Even if I went with black the gold emblem looks like a rapper's necklace from the 90's.

Who is designing this crap?

:bawl:

I really wanted one.

custom grille = problem solved

do i get a test drive?

I have a silver on my ride...........but the BLUE BOWTIE will always be the best.

custom grille = problem solved

do i get a test drive?

Test drive? Of course!

It looks like it may have many blind spots and I will test it out, but only if they agree to the custom grille (no extra charge) on a base model before I get in the seat.

I'm a :wench:

I can live without it, but have always wanted one.

I supposedly had to wait a year for my MDX (first year out) There was no wheeling and dealing but I did get the salesman to pay for the smoker's package...Come on now...give me a flipping ashtray! Somebody canceled their order and I got her in three months. Great car that I will keep for my children to drive.

Test drive? Of course!

It looks like it may have many blind spots and I will test it out, but only if they agree to the custom grille (no extra charge) on a base model before I get in the seat.

I'm a :wench:

I can live without it, but have always wanted one.

I supposedly had to wait a year for my MDX (first year out) There was no wheeling and dealing but I did get the salesman to pay for the smoker's package...Come on now...give me a flipping ashtray! Somebody canceled their order and I got her in three months. Great car that I will keep for my children to drive.
I always check for extensive blind spots too when car shopping. The Xterra's were bad enough for me to warrant sticking on a set of small convex mirrors on the side mirrors.

some guys are selling decals to cover te gold bowtie... i'd imagine you could just have someone paint it
RiderGraphix.com 2010 Chevrolet Camaro Graphics (http://www.ridergraphix.com/2010_Camaro_Bowtie_Blackout.html)

*EDIT*
also found these guys that sell chrome and black bowties
Defenderworx Custom Billet Accessories - HOME (http://www.defenderworx.com/)

I always check for extensive blind spots too when car shopping. The Xterra's were bad enough for me to warrant sticking on a set of small convex mirrors on the side mirrors.

some guys are selling decals to cover te gold bowtie... i'd imagine you could just have someone paint it
RiderGraphix.com 2010 Chevrolet Camaro Graphics (http://www.ridergraphix.com/2010_Camaro_Bowtie_Blackout.html)

*EDIT*
also found these guys that sell chrome and black bowties
Defenderworx Custom Billet Accessories - HOME (http://www.defenderworx.com/)

So...other people thought they were horrendous. Will they get the message?

The first Chevy dealer I see I'm stopping in for a spin. I feel sorry for the salesperson.

As much as I like the new Chargers, I am on the fence about the Camaro. My first car was a 1967 Camaro. I miss my Blue.

As much as I like the new Chargers, I am on the fence about the Camaro. My first car was a 1967 Camaro. I miss my Blue.

RS/SS ?

I got my victory red RS on monday and I absolutely love it. This car is absolute blast to drive.

On a side note, can anyone recommend a good window tinting shop?

As much as I like the new Chargers, I am on the fence about the Camaro. My first car was a 1967 Camaro. I miss my Blue.

I love the Challenger..don't care much for the Charger and I think the Camaro is just plain ugly.

I love the Challenger..don't care much for the Charger and I think the Camaro is just plain ugly.

I was behind one of the new Camaro's yesterday, but wasn't able to get along side or see the front of it. :ohwell:

I was behind one of the new Camaro's yesterday, but wasn't able to get along side or see the front of it. :ohwell:

I've seen a lot of them..just don't like the body style but then I'm partial to my old red car. :yay:

I've seen a lot of them..just don't like the body style but then I'm partial to my old red car. :yay:

I almost didn't notice it. :headintheclouds: :lol:

Of course you are. :yay:

I love the Challenger..don't care much for the Charger and I think the Camaro is just plain ugly.

:buttkick:

The new Camaro's are getting really bad post-delivery reviews. I also want to say the SS's are being sent back because the drive trains are not holding up to the engine power.

Interior fit/finish, rattles, fluid leaks are the general complaints on these cars.

My boss and I was talking about this the other day, I will have him get the link and I will post it here...

I only like the new Camaro's with the Rally Stripes as it breaks up the paint on the car. :yay:

The new Camaro's are getting really bad post-delivery reviews. I also want to say the SS's are being sent back because the drive trains are not holding up to the engine power.

Interior fit/finish, rattles, fluid leaks are the general complaints on these cars.

My boss and I was talking about this the other day, I will have him get the link and I will post it here...

I only like the new Camaro's with the Rally Stripes as it breaks up the paint on the car. :yay:

:blahblah:

still better than a Ford........:whistle:

The new Camaro's are getting really bad post-delivery reviews. I also want to say the SS's are being sent back because the drive trains are not holding up to the engine power.

Interior fit/finish, rattles, fluid leaks are the general complaints on these cars.

My boss and I was talking about this the other day, I will have him get the link and I will post it here...

I only like the new Camaro's with the Rally Stripes as it breaks up the paint on the car. :yay:

The one I saw yesterday was either black or a dark blue with the stripes. The stripes are what caught my attention.

The one I saw yesterday was either black or a dark blue with the strips. The stripes are what caught my attention.

It's like the Charger..no style to it.

but then I'm partial to my old red car. :yay:

You sure you don't want trade it in for a nice red Prius?:duckandcover:

It's like the Charger..no style to it.

I wouldn't mind taking one for a spin.

You sure you don't want trade it in for a nice red Prius?

Never. :biggrin:


I wouldn't mind taking one for a spin.

Well, there is that...screeeeeeeech :lmao:

Well, there is that...screeeeeeeech :lmao:

Wanna go with me? :lol:

Wanna go with me? :lol:

:thelmaandlouise:

:thelmaandlouise:

:psst: They die at the end yanno, but there is the whole Brad Pitt hotel room encounter to consider.

:thelmaandlouise:

:yay:

We can make a day of it. Lunch and some shopping for my trip next week. :yahoo:

:psst: They die at the end yanno, but there is the whole Brad Pitt hotel room encounter to consider.


How do you know they die? :shrug:

How do you know they die? :shrug:

:parachutes:

:whistle:

I love the Challenger..don't care much for the Charger and I think the Camaro is just plain ugly.

I agree about the Challenger :smoochy:. When the Camaro is driving towards you, it looks like a chopped car. Fugly :barf:

The one I saw yesterday was either black or a dark blue with the stripes. The stripes are what caught my attention.

Jack Winegardner has 3 or 4 right now... all but one has Rally Stripes.

My boss said he read about the issues on a Colbalt SS site (that is what he has) - the drive train issue with the SS's are when customers were launching it. The SS's are in a halt production (supposedly)

The other site showed ~60 known issues, again I will post a link when he digs it up.

Jack Winegardner has 3 or 4 right now... all but one has Rally Stripes.

My boss said he read about the issues on a Colbalt SS site (that is what he has) - the drive train issue with the SS's are when customers were launching it. The SS's are in a halt production (supposedly)

The other site showed ~60 known issues, again I will post a link when he digs it up.

I really like the new Camaro, but I would never consider purchasing a new model right off the line... 2nd year off the line usually has most of the bugs worked out. Besides, teen boy should be on his own insurance policy by then...:lol:

Besides, teen boy should be on his own insurance policy by then...:lol:

Be careful...as long as he's in the house some companies will rate you accordingly on all vehicles.

How do you know they die? :shrug:

:parachutes:

:whistle:

PeeWee Herman made it by partially raising the top.

On a side note, can anyone recommend a good window tinting shop?

I used a place on 235 in California that is no longer in business for my Envoy. I wish they were still around - quality work at an affordable price ($150). A few months ago I used Street Trenz off Great Mills Road for another SUV. Good work, but a little pricey ($250).

I hear there is a place in Hollywood, but it's first come, first serve - no appts. I'm not sure of the name, but maybe someone on here knows what I'm talking about.

I really like the new Camaro, but I would never consider purchasing a new model right off the line... 2nd year off the line usually has most of the bugs worked out. Besides, teen boy should be on his own insurance policy by then...:lol:

That pretty much goes with most american cars.

I love the Challenger..don't care much for the Charger and I think the Camaro is just plain ugly.

Just out of curiousity, how many thumbs up, waves, heads turning/hanging out of the window, or smiles do you get just by driving your car around? Because judging from the reactions that I've seen from people who see my car, there are a lot of people who disagree with your opinion.

Just out of curiousity, how many thumbs up, waves, heads turning/hanging out of the window, or smiles do you get just by driving your car around? Because judging from the reactions that I've seen from people who see my car, there are a lot of people who disagree with your opinion.

A lot. :yay: But I have an awesome looking car.

Jack Winegardner has 3 or 4 right now... all but one has Rally Stripes.

My boss said he read about the issues on a Colbalt SS site (that is what he has) - the drive train issue with the SS's are when customers were launching it. The SS's are in a halt production (supposedly)

The other site showed ~60 known issues, again I will post a link when he digs it up.

My boss found that link;

Camaro5: Camaro Customer’s Pre-Delivery Checklist | The Truth About Cars (http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/camaro5-new-camaro-pre-delivery-checklist-under-construction/)

:blahblah:

still better than a Ford........:whistle:

I don't agree with your comment. Look at all the Mustangs on the street. The new Camaro will never outsell the Mustang. The new Camaro is just ugly, I did like the early Camaro.

I don't agree with your comment. Look at all the Mustangs on the street. The new Camaro will never outsell the Mustang. The new Camaro is just ugly, I did like the early Camaro.

:bigwhoop: Obviously there are going to be more Mustangs out on the street considering that Chevrolet didn't make the Camaro since 2002. If you want to know the truth, the new Camaro and the 2010 Mustang are very similarly styled cars, even I will admit that. But at the same time, to find a version of the Mustang that will out preform the Camaro SS (MSRP starting at $31k), you have to purchase a GT 500 with a sticker price of over $50k. Give it time, this is a quality vehicle and one I am proud to own, and many others will be too.

:bigwhoop: Obviously there are going to be more Mustangs out on the street considering that Chevrolet didn't make the Camaro since 2002. If you want to know the truth, the new Camaro and the 2010 Mustang are very similarly styled cars, even I will admit that. But at the same time, to find a version of the Mustang that will out preform the Camaro SS (MSRP starting at $31k), you have to purchase a GT 500 with a sticker price of over $50k. Give it time, this is a quality vehicle and one I am proud to own, and many others will be too.

I realize that the Camaro hasn't been on the street since 2002. I am saying is that it will never outsell the Mustang in the next few years. The Mustang is a very popular vehicle, no matter what the horsepower. Ford is giving the versatility that the consumer wants.

:bigwhoop: Obviously there are going to be more Mustangs out on the street considering that Chevrolet didn't make the Camaro since 2002. If you want to know the truth, the new Camaro and the 2010 Mustang are very similarly styled cars, even I will admit that. But at the same time, to find a version of the Mustang that will out preform the Camaro SS (MSRP starting at $31k), you have to purchase a GT 500 with a sticker price of over $50k. Give it time, this is a quality vehicle and one I am proud to own, and many others will be too.

I still think it's ugly. :lol: I don't like the lines on it...or lack of lines.

:bigwhoop: Obviously there are going to be more Mustangs out on the street considering that Chevrolet didn't make the Camaro since 2002. If you want to know the truth, the new Camaro and the 2010 Mustang are very similarly styled cars, even I will admit that. But at the same time, to find a version of the Mustang that will out preform the Camaro SS (MSRP starting at $31k), you have to purchase a GT 500 with a sticker price of over $50k. Give it time, this is a quality vehicle and one I am proud to own, and many others will be too.

Another note, the Ford Mustang GT 500 is a 5.4 liter V8 with 540 HP. The Camaro is a 6.2 liter with 400-426 HP. You can see why the Mustang that you compare to the Camero SS is more expensive. It is more powerful and more exclusive...not a cookie cutter model.

Another note, the Ford Mustang GT 500 is a 5.4 liter V8 with 540 HP. The Camaro is a 6.2 liter with 400-426 HP. You can see why the Mustang that you compare to the Camero SS is more expensive. It is more powerful and more exclusive...not a cookie cutter model.

Right now though, the Camaro SS is the best bang for the buck going on the market, and you really can't argue that. There is no Mustang in the SS's price range that will even come close to competing with it.

Now, once Chevrolet rolls out a Z-28 model of the Camaro, then perhaps that will be a better price vs. price/hp vs. hp comparison to the GT 500.

And say what you wanna say about either car, but the mere fact that people are even having this discussion should put a smile on the face of anyone who is a fan of American automobiles.

Right now though, the Camaro SS is the best bang for the buck going on the market, and you really can't argue that. There is no Mustang in the SS's price range that will even come close to competing with it.

Now, once Chevrolet rolls out a Z-28 model of the Camaro, then perhaps that will be a better price vs. price/hp vs. hp comparison to the GT 500.

And say what you wanna say about either car, but the mere fact that people are even having this discussion should put a smile on the face of anyone who is a fan of American automobiles.

How can you say that the Camaro is the best bang for your buck? The stock Mustang GT is $27.995.00 for a 4.6 L, 315 hp and 13.610 in the 1/4 mile. The stock Camaro SS is $33,430 for 6.2L, 400 hp and a 13.60 in the 1/4 mile. You tell me what the best is for your money. I am glad that you like your new Camaro...I will see you at the track with my stock Mustang GT...I am not your typical girl...I have been around racing a long time. SMOKIN!!!

Right now though, the Camaro SS is the best bang for the buck going on the market, and you really can't argue that. There is no Mustang in the SS's price range that will even come close to competing with it.

Now, once Chevrolet rolls out a Z-28 model of the Camaro, then perhaps that will be a better price vs. price/hp vs. hp comparison to the GT 500.

And say what you wanna say about either car, but the mere fact that people are even having this discussion should put a smile on the face of anyone who is a fan of American automobiles.

Yeah, but you can only go 60-70 on the roads, so what does it matter? Unless you take it to the track. I'm not into paying $40,000 for something to drive at Budd's Creek.

I like a classy car thats sounds good and runs well...I'm not about speed.

How can you say that the Camaro is the best bang for your buck? The stock Mustang GT is $27.995.00 for a 4.6 L, 315 hp and 13.610 in the 1/4 mile. The stock Camaro SS is $33,430 for 6.2L, 400 hp and a 13.60 in the 1/4 mile. You tell me what the best is for your money. I am glad that you like your new Camaro...I will see you at the track with my stock Mustang GT...I am not your typical girl...I have been around racing a long time. SMOKIN!!!

:killingme And I'm not you're typical guy, I've won 2 track championships at MIR, and 1 IHRA World Championship, whats your point?

The stock Camaro LT1 is $23,495 and is a 3.6L V6 314 HP that runs 13.9 @ 103 mph in 1/4. Read a couple of reviews of the Mustang GT vs. the SS and you tell me which one the critics are picking as the better car.

Yeah, but you can only go 60-70 on the roads, so what does it matter? Unless you take it to the track. I'm not into paying $40,000 for something to drive at Budd's Creek.

I like a classy car thats sounds good and runs well...I'm not about speed.

I said at the TRACK, I don't race on the street. And besides a Camaro SS can't even come close to the hmmmm of the Mustang GT.

By the way, why did your Camaro cost $40,000 for the SS? Shoot, I could add $8,000.00 to that and get a real race car.... a Roush Mustang or Saleen with 625 hp. Sorry to burst your bubble. Besides Chevrolet is now Government Motors.

:killingme And I'm not you're typical guy, I've won 2 track championships at MIR, and 1 IHRA World Championship, whats your point?

The stock Camaro LT1 is $23,495 and is a 3.6L V6 314 HP that runs 13.9 @ 103 mph in 1/4. Read a couple of reviews of the Mustang GT vs. the SS and you tell me which one the critics are picking as the better car.

Just the facts Man!

Yeah, but you can only go 60-70 on the roads, so what does it matter? Unless you take it to the track. I'm not into paying $40,000 for something to drive at Budd's Creek.

I like a classy car thats sounds good and runs well...I'm not about speed.

Then clearly you shouldn't be paying attention or offering opinions on a thread about muscle cars, now should you? I am happy that you like your classy car, my mother loves her Cadillac CTS. If you'd like to offer your opinion on that which you enjoy, maybe you should start a thread about your car. :smile:

Just the facts Man!

You've got 'em. And I don't think cattitude was trying to say that she bought a SS for 40k, whatever she drives cost that much, she's clearly stated she doesn't like the Camaro.

I said at the TRACK, I don't race on the street. And besides a Camaro SS can't even come close to the hmmmm of the Mustang GT.

By the way, why did your Camaro cost $40,000 for the SS? Shoot, I could add $8,000.00 to that and get a real race car.... a Roush Mustang or Saleen with 625 hp. Sorry to burst your bubble. Besides Chevrolet is now Government Motors.

Sorry, this response was for Last Son. Sorry Cat attitude.

:lmao: :yay: I approve of this tread

Gotta Go, happy Racing!!!

I don't agree with your comment. Look at all the Mustangs on the street. The new Camaro will never outsell the Mustang. The new Camaro is just ugly, I did like the early Camaro.

so what....I don't care....Bowties forever, my friend........:buddies:

Then clearly you shouldn't be paying attention or offering opinions on a thread about muscle cars, now should you? I am happy that you like your classy car, my mother loves her Cadillac CTS. If you'd like to offer your opinion on that which you enjoy, maybe you should start a thread about your car. :smile:

I drive a vette. :ohwell:

I grew up wanting one...and they are back!

I started "building" one today and hit DELETE!

The huge gold chevy emblem on the grille is a turn off.

It's a statistical fact that women are the main buyers in the auto market and have the final say when there is a couple involved.

If I want a silver Camaro it should not be spoiled with a huge gold pimp lookalike grille ornament. Fashion disaster. Even if I went with black the gold emblem looks like a rapper's necklace from the 90's.

Who is designing this crap?

:bawl:

I really wanted one.

It wasn't the gold on the grill, but the requisite mullet that did me in..

How can you say that the Camaro is the best bang for your buck? The stock Mustang GT is $27.995.00 for a 4.6 L, 315 hp and 13.610 in the 1/4 mile. The stock Camaro SS is $33,430 for 6.2L, 400 hp and a 13.60 in the 1/4 mile. You tell me what the best is for your money. I am glad that you like your new Camaro...I will see you at the track with my stock Mustang GT...I am not your typical girl...I have been around racing a long time. SMOKIN!!!


A $12,000 Suzuki will best all of them.. so WHAT's the best bang for the buck?

How can you say that the Camaro is the best bang for your buck? The stock Mustang GT is $27.995.00 for a 4.6 L, 315 hp and 13.610 in the 1/4 mile. The stock Camaro SS is $33,430 for 6.2L, 400 hp and a 13.60 in the 1/4 mile. You tell me what the best is for your money. I am glad that you like your new Camaro...I will see you at the track with my stock Mustang GT...I am not your typical girl...I have been around racing a long time. SMOKIN!!!

I think I would much rather have the new Camaro instead of the Honduh Civic of the domestic world.

I'm happy with my Vega. :dance:

I think I would much rather have the new Camaro instead of the Honduh Civic of the domestic world.

Don't even put a Mustang in the same category as a Civic. The reliability and resale value probably isn't close.

I drive a vette. :ohwell:

haha ok....and why did you buy said Vette considering you're not worried about the way it runs as you've stated? Certainly there are much more comfortable cars you could've purchased for the price you paid for that Corvette.

Don't even put a Mustang in the same category as a Civic. The reliability and resale value probably isn't close.

:lmao: Good point.

haha ok....and why did you buy said Vette considering you're not worried about the way it runs as you've stated? Certainly there are much more comfortable cars you could've purchased for the price you paid for that Corvette.

If ya really want to know, I chased that particular car for about 4 years. It was THE car I wanted and no other. I'm not concerned about comfort..C4's weren't about comfort, it runs awesome, it's gorgeous and it's mine.

If ya really want to know, I chased that particular car for about 4 years. It was THE car I wanted and no other. I'm not concerned about comfort..C4's weren't about comfort, it runs awesome, it's gorgeous and it's mine.

I feel the same way about my new Camaro :buddies: enjoy it!

One thing is for sure....if we all liked the same vehicle it certainly would be very boring.

I love my new Smart Car, it keeps fantastic gas mileage and it drives the ladies wild.

I love my new Smart Car, it keeps fantastic gas mileage and it drives the ladies wild.

:eyebrow:

I love my new Smart Car, it keeps fantastic gas mileage and it drives the ladies wild.

Standing next to little things, make your things look bigger???

I love my new Smart Car, it keeps fantastic gas mileage and it drives the ladies wild.

I actually want one of those. They are rare around here!!!! :buddies:

haha ok....and why did you buy said Vette considering you're not worried about the way it runs as you've stated? Certainly there are much more comfortable cars you could've purchased for the price you paid for that Corvette.

Most people buy a Corvette because of the status that goes along with the car. You are either going through a mid-life crisis or retired. Mustangs and Camaros are good cheap fast cars.

I actually want one of those. They are rare around here!!!! :buddies:

Annapolis Mercedes is the local dealer..

In the past you couldn't buy one off the lot, you could test drive one and order one and they'd call you when it came in.

And the Camaro.. Chevy blew it. They should have hired the Mustang designer, because NOTHING about that car brings back memories of a 60 or 70's Camaro, NOTHING retro, and it's just plain Butt FUGLY..

Another car I don't have to worry about running to the dealer to test drive.

Right now though, the Camaro SS is the best bang for the buck going on the market, and you really can't argue that. There is no Mustang in the SS's price range that will even come close to competing with it.

Now, once Chevrolet rolls out a Z-28 model of the Camaro, then perhaps that will be a better price vs. price/hp vs. hp comparison to the GT 500.

And say what you wanna say about either car, but the mere fact that people are even having this discussion should put a smile on the face of anyone who is a fan of American automobiles.

Negative, for the Chevy the Cobalt SS is the best band for the buck... ~22K and it runs high 13's... with the Stage II Chevy kit it dips into the lower 13's. :lol:

The Camaro SS has been halted in production until they beef up their drive trains, people are breaking the tranny when they launch them.

Most people buy a Corvette because of the status that goes along with the car. You are either going through a mid-life crisis or retired.

:lol:

Negative, for the Chevy the Cobalt SS is the best band for the buck... ~22K and it runs high 13's... with the Stage II Chevy kit it dips into the lower 13's. :lol:


Are you on crack?! Cobalt? :killingme

Speaking from a bang for the buck perspective, not at all, the Cobalt will match much more expensive machinery.

I haven't been in one, but I can only imange the interior of the Cobalt is up to par with the rest of Chevy's lineup. LOL

:lol:

Hmm...since you're not retired... :whistle:

Hmm...since you're not retired... :whistle:

LOL. My bad.

I haven't been in one, but I can only imange the interior of the Cobalt is up to par with the rest of Chevy's lineup. LOL

Plastic can be classy..

I haven't been in one, but I can only imange the interior of the Cobalt is up to par with the rest of Chevy's lineup. LOL

But were not talking interior spiffyness here, bang for the buck is strictly how fast you go for the money. Now, if she had said bang for the buck in its class, that would be different, but she didnt qualify it. Right now, the Cobalt SS is a great deal if you want to go fast cheap, amongst new cars, anyway. My old Neon SRT-4 used to be the king of the bang for the buck, but Dodge dropped the ball a little in the shift over to the Caliber for the SRT-4.

Now, in the 2 door muscle car segment, the SS is indeed the best bang for the buck. Oh, and Lastson, last I read, the Z-28 was dead in the water, although I admit my information could be dated.

Annapolis Mercedes is the local dealer..

In the past you couldn't buy one off the lot, you could test drive one and order one and they'd call you when it came in.

And the Camaro.. Chevy blew it. They should have hired the Mustang designer, because NOTHING about that car brings back memories of a 60 or 70's Camaro, NOTHING retro, and it's just plain Butt FUGLY..

Another car I don't have to worry about running to the dealer to test drive.

Like I told catittude, judging on the reactions I've gotten from people, there are plenty out there who disagree with you, but hey you're entitled to your opinion. :yay:

And glhs837, I think its really going to depend on how the Camaro sells and how GM does as a whole over the next few years. While there might not be any current plans, there were plans at one point, and I think if this car continues to sell, eventually they will put out a Z-28 model.

Are you on crack?! Cobalt? :killingme

Nope, the Cobalt SS is running high 13's... here is a shot of a kid getting 14.1 out of a stock Cobalt SS... My '08 Cobalt SS/TC 1/4 Mile Runs - Cobalt SS Network (http://www.cobaltss.net/forums/showthread.php?t=124362)

Now, the Chevy StageII Kit (and I think SuperChips has a StageII unit) easily puts this super-charged 4 cylinder into the mid/low 13's.

I would not have believed it if I seen it, but my boss has one and it is 'effing quick. :lol:

Yes, a Cobalt...

Oh, I always looked at best bang for your buck as a overall category not just speed.

Oh, I always looked at best bang for your buck as a overall category not just speed.

You mean like an overall category minus reliability or quality?

You mean like an overall category minus reliability or quality?

No. Otherwise any Chevy with forced induction would not make it.

Oh, I always looked at best bang for your buck as a overall category not just speed.


Depends, I suppose on your definition of "bang":) Some folks, they get a kick out of a finely chiseled dash, or how it feels when you touch it. Others, they are all about how it feels when you nail the throttle or tuck into a turn. Me, I expect everything to the things I touch, the steering wheel, controls, seat and such, to function properly, and work well. Now, if it does that with a nice feel, that's a bonus, one I'm not willing to pay a large amount for. One reason I like my Charger, I got a lot of Mercedes refinement for relatively little money, since the suspension, electronics, and most of the drivetrain were directly off the last generation E-class.

Most people buy a Corvette because of the status that goes along with the car. You are either going through a mid-life crisis or retired. Mustangs and Camaros are good cheap fast cars.

:lmao:

Depends, I suppose on your definition of "bang":) Some folks, they get a kick out of a finely chiseled dash, or how it feels when you touch it. Others, they are all about how it feels when you nail the throttle or tuck into a turn. Me, I expect everything to the things I touch, the steering wheel, controls, seat and such, to function properly, and work well. Now, if it does that with a nice feel, that's a bonus, one I'm not willing to pay a large amount for. One reason I like my Charger, I got a lot of Mercedes refinement for relatively little money, since the suspension, electronics, and most of the drivetrain were directly off the last generation E-class.

One of my co-workers drives one of those boats. Way too overpriced. It's the Daytona edition.

Depends on what you pay, I suppose. Sticker? Yeah, too much, if they paid markup, then it even more so. Price out full size cars with about 350hp, they dont come cheap from anyone. The Daytona package itself adds about $1400, for which you get a lot of vinyl, and exclusive paint, and color matched interior bits. Not worth to me, not when you can get the Daytonas extra mechanical (suspension, 10hp bump, slight better exhuast) for that much less. Theres a model equipped just like the Daytona, without all the flash, for $1400 less.


But, if you want a special color, and the knowledge that there are very few cars like yours, they are numbered, after all, you pay extra, thats worth it to some folks. Not me. I'll pay extra for performance, not vinyl. But, dollar for dollar, in the full size class, its still not a bad deal. Overpriced should be judged by competitors, and theres not many in that class, really.

I think his was 40k. Please tell that was marked up. I agree with you I would have gotten a lesser of a car. But for 40K I would have taken a G35.

Which model year? If you dont know that, what color is it? That tells the year, since each years Daytona colors are unique. Options? Not many to get on a Daytona, they do come fairly well loaded. If its an 06, then 40 would be marked up. A 2009, however, if you get every possible option, can be stickered at 40K.

Now, a G37 (no G35 this year) optioned similarly, will be right in that same 40K price range. A little less power, somewhere in the 30-40hp range. One thing to remember, though, is that the G37 is a midsize, not a large car. The M45 is really the Chargers competitor in size. And that sucker will cost you considerably more, like 10K more.

I think it was the initial year. I wouldn't get a M45 though. I like to think sports cars as coupes. Damn, the rally world. LOL

Ah, in 2006, they were I think 32-33K, 36K loaded, so yeah, they paid a huge markup. Colors were Top Banana, and GoMango. I know theres two TBs around here, one only a little ways down the road from me:)


Sports cars? Nah, most owners, even of the SRT-8s, dont view these beasts as sports cars. High performance? Sure, depending on the individuals outlook, of course. But not a sports car. Modern muscle car is maybe the best term for them.

Was the Daytona Red not from 2006? Maybe it was 2007 model?

Nah, the TorReds were inded a 2006, I had forgotten that. They popped out 2,000 of them right before the switchover to the 2007 models. Then TorRed became a 2007 production color, which seems to be a bit of a rip to me, since part of the point of them was the heritage colors only available on the Daytonas.

For the folks who care about such things, its important, I guess:) You pay for a little exclusivity, you should get it. I'm glad they didnt paly that numbered car thing with the SRTs, dealers were stupid enough with the markups. I will give Dodge this though, there were a few dealers who tried to make their own Daytonas, and Dodge smacked them around and made them stop.

Of course, if you do want a numbered SRT, you can get a SuperBee. No faster than a normal SRT, just flashier.

Clicking thru the pics on this link... I really do like the new Camaro. If I had cash to buy a new car today, I believe I'd pick the V-6 2010 Camaro.

Having a Camaro Earns Owners Free Pizza - Southern Maryland News, Charles County, Calvert County and St. Mary's County News (http://www.thebaynet.com/news/index.cfm/fa/viewstory/story_ID/14560)

Having a Camaro Earns Owners Free Pizza - Southern Maryland News, Charles County, Calvert County and St. Mary's County News (http://www.thebaynet.com/news/index.cfm/fa/viewstory/story_ID/14560)

What a cool story! :yay:

Clicking thru the pics on this link... I really do like the new Camaro. If I had cash to buy a new car today, I believe I'd pick the V-6 2010 Camaro.

Having a Camaro Earns Owners Free Pizza - Southern Maryland News, Charles County, Calvert County and St. Mary's County News (http://www.thebaynet.com/news/index.cfm/fa/viewstory/story_ID/14560)

Despite all the flaws, I kinda liked them - until I followed a silver one down the beltway today, the rear of them are ugly as hell. :dead:

Despite all the flaws, I kinda liked them - until I followed a silver one down the beltway today, the rear of them are ugly as hell. :dead:

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Yeah that until you blow the motor, and JH says "ship it back, we might cover some of the repair cost". Sorry, I know the man can make power, and fast cars, but anyone sends a car to him and expects to be taken care of after should go to Vegas instead, the odds are better.

Yeah that until you blow the motor, and JH says "ship it back, we might cover some of the repair cost". Sorry, I know the man can make power, and fast cars, but anyone sends a car to him and expects to be taken care of after should go to Vegas instead, the odds are better.

speed costs.........you know that.

Oh, I dont mind spending for speed, but at the rates he charges, and the time he takes, it should be bulletproof, and his ethics unassailable. Sadly, neither is true. Dont let the press from the mags fool you, he goes through car communities fast. The Viper guys use his name as a curse.

Interior fit/finish, rattles, fluid leaks are the general complaints on these cars.



I thought Cameros came standard with a dash rattle ..........



you know it is a Goberment Motors Product .....


I remember in the 90's you could get a 5.0 Mustang LX for less than 16 and could not touch a baseline Camero for less than 22?

what a joke ...

Camero :shrug:

Hmmm, for 93, last year of the 5.0, you could indeed get a 5.0 for maybe 14K stripped, but the previous year Z28 didnt cost over 22K. I cant find 92 numbers of the Mustang, nor 1993 numbers for the Camaro, but its close enough that I dont think the numbers changed appreciably.

1993 Mustang (http://www.mustangregistry.org/lx_93.htm)


1992 Chevrolet Camaro Specs and Features - MSN Autos (http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Glance.aspx?year=1992&make=Chevrolet&model=Camaro)

The Z28 coupe cost 16K, while the convertible would set you back 21K.

Well, I had a 91 gt that I dearly miss, and yes, at that time, the 5.0's were the best bang for the buck.....I still like them Chevy's, too....:ohwell:

Bump.

I'm tired of silver and want a black one. :lol:

Bump.

I'm tired of silver and want a black one. :lol:

Never been a fan of "Silver" vehicles, non-descrip...

Just my 3 cents...

Bump.

I'm tired of silver and want a black one. :lol:
Black is beautiful.

Bump.

I'm tired of silver and want a black one. :lol:

My truck is black and it is a giant pain in the ass. It shows all dirt, all scratches, swirls, nicks, water spots and anything else that floats through the air next to it.

I should have learned since this is my 2nd black vehicle but it was the only color they had that was equipped like I wanted and did not look like a vomit color

My truck is black and it is a giant pain in the ass. It shows all dirt, all scratches, swirls, nicks, water spots and anything else that floats through the air next to it.

I should have learned since this is my 2nd black vehicle but it was the only color they had that was equipped like I wanted and did not look like a vomit color

My main vehicle is silver. My daughter's, which I drive on occasion, is black. It's a tiny little thing and nobody can even see it (apparently) as I drive down the road...dents and dirt and all. :lol:

Hmmm. Maybe I want a red Camaro.

My main vehicle is silver. My daughter's, which I drive on occasion, is black. It's a tiny little thing and nobody can even see it (apparently) as I drive down the road...dents and dirt and all. :lol:

Hmmm. Maybe I want a red Camaro.
Black is worth all the trouble.