Would you like to see a forum dedicated to the archiving rules, regulations, and guidelines for driving on Maryland roadways?

Would you like to see a forum dedicated to the archiving rules, regulations, and guidelines for driving on Maryland roadways?

I like the options!! Yes, or Yes!! :roflmao:


BTW, I vote Yes!

I like the options!! Yes, or Yes!! :roflmao:


BTW, I vote Yes!

Well, if I don't get a lot of votes, then it will be obvious that a lot of people would have voted "no". :shrug:

I think it's a good idea, since so many people really aren't learning this stuff.

I watched a girl pull out of San Souci the other day, headin' south. She crossed the solid white line and blasted her horn at the woman that had just pulled a U'ey and was in the next lane over from her.

This one seems tricky, but the woman who made the U-turn had the right of way.

Hey, why cant I select multiple answers, I like them both:howdy:

Only thing is, you'd need a way to vet the information given, and good moderation to clean out the crud once in a while.

Well, if I don't get a lot of votes, then it will be obvious that a lot of people would have voted "no". :shrug:

I think it's a good idea, since so many people really aren't learning this stuff.


I hear ya!! I have to turn left into my neighborhood and even though there is a sign stating NO PASSING ON RIGHT, people fly by on the shoulder all the time. I don't know how many times I've almost been clipped by someone. :tantrum Oh, and when my Daughter took driver's ed, they told her that she just had to slow down for emergency vehicles and let them go around her, not pull off to the right. :faint:

NO
A lot of people seem to think that speed limits are actual limits instead of general guidelines.

and when my Daughter took driver's ed, they told her that she just had to slow down for emergency vehicles and let them go around her, not pull off to the right. :faint:

These driving instructors are a big part of the problem.

NO
A lot of people seem to think that speed limits are actual limits instead of general guidelines.
They are limits based on ideal weather and ideal driving conditions.

Or was your point that sometimes you have to drive slower than the limits?

Hey, why cant I select multiple answers, I like them both:howdy:

Only thing is, you'd need a way to vet the information given, and good moderation to clean out the crud once in a while.

I'd be a moderator, clean it up every day or so, and make stickies from the pertinent information that had been posted.

It would just turn into another fight club.

It would just turn into another fight club.

So is the rest of the forums, that's why they're moderated.

They are limits based on ideal weather and ideal driving conditions.
Or was your point that sometimes you have to drive slower than the limits?



And the lowest common demoninator for driver and machine. Meaning a half blind idiot driving a 1968 land yacht with full drum brakes and worn out suspension on bald bias ply tires will be safe at those limits.

In any case, for instance, many folks mistakenly think that yellow speed limit signs indicate legal maximum speeds. they dont, yellow speed advisory signs are just that, advisory only. Orange ones, however, are mandatory.


Two of my personal favorites are acceleration and decelleration lanes, and divided highway passthroughs. Very few folks actually understand how to use these features.

Accel/deccel lanes- These are for getting up to the traffic speed of the roadway you want to enter. You are not supposed to slowly creep out to the end of that lane and stop, then enter traffic a 20-30mph less than the trafic flow. Or, coming off the roadway, you FULLY enter the decell lane, THEN slow down for your turn. Dont slow to 20-30 less than traffic, then creep over into that lane. In both cases, dont be tentative, make these lane changes smartly, 2-3 seconds at most.

Median Passthroughs - Do not turn into the passthrough immediately, wait until you are on the far side, then turn. This prevents anyone coming from the other side into passthrough the from the opther side of the highway blocking your view on oncoming traffic.

So is the rest of the forums, that's why they're moderated.

They are? :confused: But slander is allowed in there and people are going to the cops because of it! AND NOTHING IS BEING DONE TO STOP IT! :jameo:


oh and this isn't such a bad idea, but it doesn't need to be a forum just 1 locked post somewhere

Wouldn't this amount to just reprinting the Drivers Manual? Not a bad idea, we could discuss it like bible study in small words that even the local cops could understand.

Wouldn't this amount to just reprinting the Drivers Manual? Not a bad idea, we could discuss it like bible study in small words that even the local cops could understand.

It's not generating much interest anyway. BIG SURPRISE!

It would just turn into a big fight thread.
the reason is that nobody will admit that what they do is wrong.. except me, I will admit that some of the things I do are just plain wrong and at times unsafe.

But, I think Im the only one.
just think of all the speeding threads where its the guy doing the speed limit thats wrong, or cell phone threads etc...

we all drive perfect, its ALWAYS the douchbag driving next to us thats the problem.

but, I still vote yes,, even if there was a no, I would vote yes, providing that the regulations are the legal explanation or rule/requirement in the state.

does any of that make even the smallest amount of sense?

Oh, and when my Daughter took driver's ed, they told her that she just had to slow down for emergency vehicles and let them go around her, not pull off to the right. :faint:

Are you freakin' kidding me? Well, that explains A LOT. UFB. :doh:

I hear ya!! I have to turn left into my neighborhood and even though there is a sign stating NO PASSING ON RIGHT, people fly by on the shoulder all the time. I don't know how many times I've almost been clipped by someone. :tantrum Oh, and when my Daughter took driver's ed, they told her that she just had to slow down for emergency vehicles and let them go around her, not pull off to the right. :faint:

They told this to my 21 yr old also....shortly after we were driving up the hill on Rt 5 before Fairgrounds, cop behind us....he flips on his lights(neither one of us saw it till he turned on the siren)....boy pulls over as quickly as possible....cops meets him at LHS and pulls him over, explains that he is to pull over immediately

Somewhere, some one does not have the correct information...personally, I think it may be the dick of a rookie cop that was trying really hard not to have me kick his dumb ass for trying to "show his ass" and put a scare into a new driver

It would just turn into a big fight thread.
the reason is that nobody will admit that what they do is wrong.. except me, I will admit that some of the things I do are just plain wrong and at times unsafe.

I am a perfect driver....I will admit that to everyone

Would you like to see a forum dedicated to the archiving rules, regulations, and guidelines for driving on Maryland roadways?

Yes. Give me something to read while I'm driving. :buddies:

Yes. Give me something to read while I'm driving. :buddies:

I'll text it to you....that's what I do while I'm driving

I'll text it to you....that's what I do while I'm driving

Good. Maybe send me some up county directions while you're at it? :lol:

Good. Maybe send me some up county directions while you're at it? :lol:

:killingme

Would you like to see a forum dedicated to the archiving rules, regulations, and guidelines for driving on Maryland roadways?

Why would you like to archive things that don't exist? :shrug:

Sure! I vote yes.

NO
A lot of people seem to think that speed limits are actual limits instead of general guidelines.

Those are suggested minimums.

I think people know that you're not supposed to run a red light, or drive on the shoulder, or cross double yellow lines to pass on a two lane road - and so on. But people do it anyway, for reasons I've mentioned countless times - there are no consequences. They get away with it. The only other reason is people are just willfully stupid, and no amount of education will cure them of it.

One of my personal favorites is when you are at an intersection, waiting to make a left turn, and someone is trying to make a left turn onto the road you're on. Unless there's a divider in the road, a lot of drivers will practically drive IN YOUR LANE towards you, albeit briefly, drive right over the painted dividing line to make their turn. This of course, is totally avoided by making a broad curve as you turn into the road.

The last time I experienced this, the other driver barely missed me but made sure to glare at me as they passed.

I think people know that you're not supposed to run a red light, or drive on the shoulder, or cross double yellow lines to pass on a two lane road - and so on. But people do it anyway, for reasons I've mentioned countless times - there are no consequences. They get away with it. The only other reason is people are just willfully stupid, and no amount of education will cure them of it.

Not to make this political, but this inability to follow simple driving instructions explains why people vote the way they do.

I think people know that you're not supposed to run a red light, or drive on the shoulder, or cross double yellow lines to pass on a two lane road - and so on. But people do it anyway, for reasons I've mentioned countless times - there are no consequences. They get away with it.

One of my personal favorites is when you are at an intersection, waiting to make a left turn, and someone is trying to make a left turn onto the road you're on.

I swear, a lot of people just drive however they heck they feel like. I have had the following scenario happen to me a few times: I drive up to a stop sign at a very busy road before making a right hand turn. A vehicle is stopped at the stop sign across from me - waiting to make the LEFT onto that same road. (They would be heading in the same direction as I. )

After assessing the traffic and making a complete stop, do I not then have the right away? Because in these scenarios, those vehicles who seem to have been there before I arrive at the stop sign - either pull out in front of me very quickly, or attempt to as I am executing my right hand turn.

I may be mistaken, but I thought I had the right away, yet those drivers seem to think it's a first come, first served type of deal. :confused:

I swear, a lot of people just drive however they heck they feel like. I have had the following scenario happen to me a few times: I drive up to a stop sign at a very busy road before making a right hand turn. A vehicle is stopped at the stop sign across from me - waiting to make the LEFT onto that same road. (They would be heading in the same direction as I. )

After assessing the traffic and making a complete stop, do I not then have the right away? Because in these scenarios, those vehicles who seem to have been there before I arrive at the stop sign - either pull out in front of me very quickly, or attempt to as I am executing my right hand turn.

I may be mistaken, but I thought I had the right away, yet those drivers seem to think it's a first come, first served type of deal. :confused:

If it's a 4 way stop (signs) the first to arrive has the right of way.

If it's a 4 way stop (signs) the first to arrive has the right of way.


Nope. Just a 2 way.

I may be mistaken, but I thought I had the right away, yet those drivers seem to think it's a first come, first served type of deal. :confused:

Two cars across from each other, no traffic, first one there has the right of way.

Nope. Just a 2 way.

It makes sense to me that the first to arrive at a stop sign would be the first to go, even at a two way, or the person making the left could be there all day long. I'd have to look at the handbook, though.

I swear, a lot of people just drive however they heck they feel like. I have had the following scenario happen to me a few times: I drive up to a stop sign at a very busy road before making a right hand turn. A vehicle is stopped at the stop sign across from me - waiting to make the LEFT onto that same road. (They would be heading in the same direction as I. )

After assessing the traffic and making a complete stop, do I not then have the right away? Because in these scenarios, those vehicles who seem to have been there before I arrive at the stop sign - either pull out in front of me very quickly, or attempt to as I am executing my right hand turn.

I may be mistaken, but I thought I had the right away, yet those drivers seem to think it's a first come, first served type of deal. :confused:

The first person at the stop sign has the right of way.

It would just turn into a big fight thread.
the reason is that nobody will admit that what they do is wrong.. except me, I will admit that some of the things I do are just plain wrong and at times unsafe.

But, I think Im the only one.
just think of all the speeding threads where its the guy doing the speed limit thats wrong, or cell phone threads etc...

we all drive perfect, its ALWAYS the douchbag driving next to us thats the problem.

but, I still vote yes,, even if there was a no, I would vote yes, providing that the regulations are the legal explanation or rule/requirement in the state.

does any of that make even the smallest amount of sense?
:yeahthat:

Two cars across from each other, no traffic, first one there has the right of way.

It makes sense to me that the first to arrive at a stop sign would be the first to go, even at a two way, or the person making the left could be there all day long. I'd have to look at the handbook, though.

The first person at the stop sign has the right of way.

Here's what I could find on it from the MD MVA Handbook

Right-of-Way (Page 41)
Laws govern the right-of-way, but never put these laws ahead of safety. The right-of-way means the right of one vehicle or pedestrian to proceed in a lawful manner on a highway in preference to another vehicle or pedestrian. If you have the right-of-way and others yield it to you, proceed immediately.

You must, of course, obey stop signs; yield signs and traffic signals at intersections.

If you enter the intersection after another vehicle, you must yield the right-of-way.

If you are about to turn left at an intersection or into an alley, private road or driveway, you must yield the right-of-way to other pedestrians and vehicles until it is safe to turn.

If you are entering a public street or highway from a private road or driveway, you must stop and yield to all approaching vehicles and pedestrians.

If a traffic light turns green for you, you must still yield to pedestrians and vehicles in the intersection. Be on the lookout for red light runners.
~~~~~~~~~~~
(Page 63)
Left Turn: One-Way to One-Way
Get into the lane furthermost to the left well ahead of the turn.
Signal your intention to turn for at least 100 feet.
Yield to pedestrians in crosswalks.
Turn sharply into the first lane on the left side of a one-way highway
~~~~~~~~~~~
(Page 63)
Right Turns
Get into the lane furthermost to the right well ahead of the turn.
Signal your intention to turn for at least 100 feet.
Yield to pedestrians in crosswalks.
Be alert for vehicles ahead that are also turning right.
Yield to bicyclists traveling between you and the side of the road.



http://www.marylandmva.com/Resources/DL-002B.pdf

It would just turn into a big fight thread.
the reason is that nobody will admit that what they do is wrong.. except me, I will admit that some of the things I do are just plain wrong and at times unsafe.

But, I think Im the only one.
just think of all the speeding threads where its the guy doing the speed limit thats wrong, or cell phone threads etc...

we all drive perfect, its ALWAYS the douchbag driving next to us thats the problem.

but, I still vote yes,, even if there was a no, I would vote yes, providing that the regulations are the legal explanation or rule/requirement in the state.

does any of that make even the smallest amount of sense?


Yes. The smallest. :biggrin:

Apparently dummies on the Bay Bridge (eastbound) can't follow directions either. There's no switching lanes anymore. There are 2 solid white lines (the dotted ones were painted over) and there's a sign saying "STAY IN YOUR LANE." Apparently that's too hard to read. :ohwell:

It's not generating much interest anyway. BIG SURPRISE!

Did you set it up so MPDs couldn't vote? :lol:

I say what the heck, why not? There are plenty of other forums here that are never used, and lots of folks here like to talk/complain about driving.

I thought about it for a sec and realized nobody would read a dedicated thread. It's better to leave it in the general one so more people will actually figure out there are rules of the road.
In the meantime, buckle up and drive defensively; THEY are everywhere trying to get YOU!

Yes. The smallest. :biggrin:
well then, that gives us a base to work from does it not?:killingme

Here's what I could find on it from the MD MVA Handbook

The MVA handbook doesn't always comply with the actual laws

For everyone that thinks you can drive in any lane you want...

Page 59:

General Driving Rules
Keep to the Right
You should keep to the right, except when your vehicle is about to
overtake and pass another vehicle or cyclist, or to make a left turn.
On a two-lane or other narrow highway, you must grant the
approaching vehicle one-half of the paved or improved portion of
the road.



Page 61:

Lane Driving
When you are driving more slowly than the traffic flow on a highway
that has two or more lanes in your direction, you should
move to and stay in the right lane.

General Driving Rules
Lane Driving
When you are driving more slowly than the traffic flow on a highway
that has two or more lanes in your direction, you should
move to and stay in the right lane.

I was riding with a friend on 235 north of Hollywood, she's doing about 60 in the left lane.
Cars are zipping by her on the right and I asked if she'd ever heard "Slower traffic keep right."?
She says "I'm doing over 60 in a 55"
Me, "Slower is a relative term that has no relation to to the posted speed limit."
"But I'm already going over the legal limit"
"Is that guy that just passed you on the right going slower or faster than you?"
"Well of course he's going faster"
"Do you think that might imply you're the "slower traffic"
"Do you think I should get over?"

:cds: We no longer date

I was riding with a friend on 235 north of Hollywood, she's doing about 60 in the left lane.
Cars are zipping by her on the right and I asked if she'd ever heard "Slower traffic keep right."?
She says "I'm doing over 60 in a 55"
Me, "Slower is a relative term that has no relation to to the posted speed limit."
"But I'm already going over the legal limit"
"Is that guy that just passed you on the right going slower or faster than you?"
"Well of course he's going faster"
"Do you think that might imply you're the "slower traffic"
"Do you think I should get over?"

:cds: We no longer date

:killingme:killingme:killingme

She sounded pretty bright.

But that's exactly it. Ideally, people going at the speed limit would be in the left lane since nobody would speed. In reality, that's not the case. Since passing on the left is safer, slow traffic needs to move the hell over. There are so many people that are like "well I'm going 5 MPH and anyone going above that is nuts!" or 10mph over or whatever it is. Regardless of what you think is acceptable, 9 out of the other 10 drivers on the road probably disagree with you. They may think you're out of line by going above the speed limit, or they may feel higher speeds are still appropriate. That's why they stick to the simple but effective "slower traffic on the right" rule.

:killingme:killingme:killingme

She sounded pretty bright.

But that's exactly it. Ideally, people going at the speed limit would be in the left lane since nobody would speed. In reality, that's not the case. Since passing on the left is safer, slow traffic needs to move the hell over. There are so many people that are like "well I'm going 5 MPH and anyone going above that is nuts!" or 10mph over or whatever it is. Regardless of what you think is acceptable, 9 out of the other 10 drivers on the road probably disagree with you. They may think you're out of line by going above the speed limit, or they may feel higher speeds are still appropriate. That's why they stick to the simple but effective "slower traffic on the right" rule.
I go by the rule,
tonnage wins

And the lowest common demoninator for driver and machine. Meaning a half blind idiot driving a 1968 land yacht with full drum brakes and worn out suspension on bald bias ply tires will be safe at those limits.

In any case, for instance, many folks mistakenly think that yellow speed limit signs indicate legal maximum speeds. they dont, yellow speed advisory signs are just that, advisory only. Orange ones, however, are mandatory.


Two of my personal favorites are acceleration and decelleration lanes, and divided highway passthroughs. Very few folks actually understand how to use these features.

Accel/deccel lanes- These are for getting up to the traffic speed of the roadway you want to enter. You are not supposed to slowly creep out to the end of that lane and stop, then enter traffic a 20-30mph less than the trafic flow. Or, coming off the roadway, you FULLY enter the decell lane, THEN slow down for your turn. Dont slow to 20-30 less than traffic, then creep over into that lane. In both cases, dont be tentative, make these lane changes smartly, 2-3 seconds at most.

Median Passthroughs - Do not turn into the passthrough immediately, wait until you are on the far side, then turn. This prevents anyone coming from the other side into passthrough the from the opther side of the highway blocking your view on oncoming traffic.

Can we keep it simple? :lol:

Can we keep it simple? :lol:

Here? :roflmao:

Can we keep it simple? :lol:


Always drive in such a way that you do not cause any other driver to have to alter their course. Hows that? :buddies:

I'll text it to you....that's what I do while I'm driving

I personally find this to be a crock of crap. Drink three or four beers and go to jail. Text message and you get a fine.
Bull crap.. at least the person that had a few drinks is watching the road.

So let me get this right.. Your texting, not watching what your doing and run in the back of someone, injuring them. You get a $500 ticket to boot.
But if you did the same thing whether they pulled out in front of you or not and you had a few drinks. You go to jail and will cost you a whole lot more than $500.

I'd rather be on the road with a thousand drivers blowing 0.7 or less than I would with one jackass texting.


St. Mary’s County Government

PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICE
Karen Everett,
Public Information Officer


MEDIA RELEASE

For immediate release:
July 2, 2009

For more information contact:
Karen Everett
301-475-4200 ext. 1342


St. Mary’s County Drivers Urged to Not Text Message While Driving

Drivers are reminded that text messaging while driving is against the law in the neighboring state
of Virginia effective July 1 and that the law banning texting while driving takes effect in Maryland on
October 1.

“While the law does not take effect in Maryland until October, I urge all citizens to stop texting while driving now,” said Commissioner President Francis Jack Russell.
Texting is a proven distraction for drivers and is most common among younger motorists. Texting is an increasingly popular but dangerous practice of shooting off short messages from cellphones and other electronic devices while behind the wheel. A study last year by the AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety found that about half of drivers ages 18 to 24 said they texted behind the wheel at least occasionally.
The Maryland law makes the activity a misdemeanor crime of driving while using a text messaging device to write or send a text while operating a motor vehicle in the travel portion of the roadway. A civil penalty will be imposed and a fine of not more than $500.00 can be enforced if convicted.

“Driving is a full time job; it requires full time attention,” said AAA Mid-Atlantic spokesman Lon Anderson. “Any activity that requires you to take your eyes off the road and type is not compatible with safe driving. No time is the right time to text and drive.”

For more information, contact your local Community Traffic Safety Program Coordinator Ms. Jacqueline Beckman at 301-475-4200 ext. 1850 or email jbeckman@stmarysmd.com

Can we keep it simple? :lol:

Sure we can.. Just rip off all the mirror's and you won't see the 1968 land yacht behind you.:killingme

I was riding with a friend on 235 north of Hollywood, she's doing about 60 in the left lane.
Cars are zipping by her on the right and I asked if she'd ever heard "Slower traffic keep right."?
She says "I'm doing over 60 in a 55"
Me, "Slower is a relative term that has no relation to to the posted speed limit."
"But I'm already going over the legal limit"
"Is that guy that just passed you on the right going slower or faster than you?"
"Well of course he's going faster"
"Do you think that might imply you're the "slower traffic"
"Do you think I should get over?"

:cds: We no longer dateThis is a good thread.