View Full Version : 2 baby snakes in my road...what are (were) they?
appendixqh
07-18-2009, 06:57 AM
First one, ran over by a truck, the dark red one was found dead in the driveway...what kind of snakie poos are they?
Bay_Kat
07-18-2009, 06:59 AM
First one, ran over by a truck, the dark red one was found dead in the driveway...what kind of snakie poos are they?
I don't know a lot about snakes, but I had two corn snakes and that's what they looked like.
sunflower
07-18-2009, 07:04 AM
Worm Snake
aps45819
07-18-2009, 07:17 AM
dead non-poisonous
citizen_fear
07-18-2009, 07:26 AM
Worm Snake
:yay:
appendixqh
07-18-2009, 07:50 AM
I don't know a lot about snakes, but I had two corn snakes and that's what they looked like.
Are corn snakes poisonous?
My fear here is that these two have some siblings nearby...and I have a young son that likes to run and play in the yard...so I want to know if I need to watch out becuase these two dead (non leathal) snakies have poisonous siblings that I have to look out for.
appendixqh
07-18-2009, 07:51 AM
Worm Snake
Is that a real snake? Sounds benign if it is...
sunflower
07-18-2009, 07:53 AM
Is that a real snake? Sounds benign if it is...
Sure is. Look it up and
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appendixqh
07-18-2009, 07:56 AM
Sure is. Look it up and
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Wow...you guys are good! I googled it...and those are definately the snake! Thank you thank you! A couple years back we killed two in the garden thinking they were baby copperhead. I think we will let these little guys be from now on...and I can let my little man play in peace! Thanks everyone! :huggy:
And I didn't realize these guys were almost full grown...they are so small!
Bay_Kat
07-18-2009, 08:04 AM
Are corn snakes poisonous?
My fear here is that these two have some siblings nearby...and I have a young son that likes to run and play in the yard...so I want to know if I need to watch out becuase these two dead (non leathal) snakies have poisonous siblings that I have to look out for.
No corn snakes are not poisonous. I had a brown one and the other was pink with orange stripes, they are really pretty, but my son wanted them so I let him take them especially after I got up one morning and one had escaped and I found it curled up in my daughters book bag just before she left for school.
I've seen a worm snake before, I thought it was the coolest snake ever. Looked to me like a worm with the head of a snake. Very tiny.
desertrat
07-18-2009, 08:51 AM
Worm Snake
Looks like, but what were they doing out and about? I've only seen them when digging in the garden.
appendixqh
07-18-2009, 08:54 AM
Looks like, but what were they doing out and about? I've only seen them when digging in the garden.
One was found dead in the driveway last night, and one was alive in the driveway this am until the truck ran it half way over...
desertrat
07-18-2009, 09:10 AM
One was found dead in the driveway last night, and one was alive in the driveway this am until the truck ran it half way over...
So commiting suicide?
sunflower
07-18-2009, 09:42 AM
Looks like, but what were they doing out and about? I've only seen them when digging in the garden.
Taking a sun bath
bobbyb
07-18-2009, 11:00 AM
Round eyed snakes are not poisonous. Slant eyed snakes are poisonous. Those little guys have round eyes.
appendixqh
07-18-2009, 02:15 PM
Round eyed snakes are not poisonous. Slant eyed snakes are poisonous. Those little guys have round eyes.
One problem....I dont want to get close enough to see there eyes! :yikes:
NatureCenter
07-20-2009, 09:15 PM
The reddish one is an Eastern worm snake. Scientific name: Carphophis amoenus
The other appears to be a Smooth earth snake. Scientific name: Virginia valeriae.
They are totally harmless. Both are tiny snakes - under 10 inches in length. Their primary diet is small earthworms and other small, soft-bodied insects.
NatureCenter
07-20-2009, 09:18 PM
Round eyed snakes are not poisonous. Slant eyed snakes are poisonous. Those little guys have round eyes.
That is actually a myth. You cannot judge if a snake is dangerous or not by the shape of its eyes.
There are many species of harmless snakes that have elliptical eyes (cat-eye slits) and there are many species of venomous snakes that have round eyes.
The only way to know venomous from harmless snakes is to learn to know what snakes are native to your area and be able to identify by sight.
NatureCenter
07-20-2009, 09:36 PM
Are corn snakes poisonous?
My fear here is that these two have some siblings nearby...and I have a young son that likes to run and play in the yard...so I want to know if I need to watch out becuase these two dead (non leathal) snakies have poisonous siblings that I have to look out for.
Actually, snakes are venomous, not poisonous. One way to look at the difference is that "venom" is injected into the bloodstream in order to be effective, while poison must be absorbed through the skin, inhaled, or ingested (eaten) to have an effect.
The ONLY type of venomous snake you have to worry about in So. Maryland is the copperhead (both Northern and Southern species are in Maryland, but the Northern species is most common). All other snakes in So. Maryland are completely harmless.
Loper
07-20-2009, 10:51 PM
Actually, snakes are venomous, not poisonous. One way to look at the difference is that "venom" is injected into the bloodstream in order to be effective, while poison must be absorbed through the skin, inhaled, or ingested (eaten) to have an effect.
The ONLY type of venomous snake you have to worry about in So. Maryland is the copperhead (both Northern and Southern species are in Maryland, but the Northern species is most common). All other snakes in So. Maryland are completely harmless.
Without getting all technical, snake bites, as any other animal bite may not be completely harmless. Even if the bite is from a non-venomous snake species, the bite can still carry bacteria and transfer it with the bite. Any snake bite should be dealt with by a doctor or vet (if a pet has been bitten) even if you know the snake is not venomous.
NatureCenter
07-21-2009, 01:34 PM
Without getting all technical, snake bites, as any other animal bite may not be completely harmless. Even if the bite is from a non-venomous snake species, the bite can still carry bacteria and transfer it with the bite. Any snake bite should be dealt with by a doctor or vet (if a pet has been bitten) even if you know the snake is not venomous.
In terms of bacteria.. bites from known harmless snakes are the least type of bite to worry about..they are pinpricks that rarely bleed if at all (some exceptions are water snakes and garter snakes due to anti-coagulants in their saliva which thin the blood and allow you bleed more freely and also leaves the area itchy for several minutes). Wash the site with soap and water and you are good to go.
People generally have more problems getting infections from paper cuts, bites from their pet hamster, or scratches from their cat or dog and that is after having cleaned the wound out. I have never gotten an infection from a snake bite - even when left untreated...and I have been bitten by fresh wild caught snakes and captive bred pet snakes of all sizes.... from just hatched tiny babies up to a large 9 foot long burmese python (teeth size on him was just over 1/4"). Usually, a few hours after a bite you can't even tell I've been bitten unless you know where exactly to look at with a magnifying glass.
About the only thing you really have to worry about from a bite from a harmless snake species is jerking your hand away too quickly in reflex... because the snake's teeth are curved inward, your jerking motion can cause some of the teeth to drag and break off in your skin.. it's like getting a splinter.. just pull them out with tweezers. People who handle snakes frequently learn to suppress that reflex jerk to prevent causing injury to the snake!
Now that's not accounting for when dealing with the huge snakes... those types of bites depending on the location should be seen by a doctor. Not so much because of infections but because there is more surface area they can affect and the larger the snake the larger the teeth so you are no longer dealing with shallow skin surface prickings, but are now dealing with real honest puncture wounds capable of hitting a decent size vein which can cause problems with getting bleeding under control. In the case of large retics or rock pythons whose teeth can reach upwards of an inch or so in length, they can even hit arteries and tendons causing more problems with bleeding and/or mechanical damage/scaring.
Personally, I wouldn't mind getting attacked by a modest size python (under 10 feet)... i'll have some pricks in my skin and maybe a few bruises for a couple days but I'll be fine. I would, however, be horrified to get attacked by an enraged adult green iguana (with comparable teeth size to a modest sized python) ..yanno the kind of lizard that pet stores STILL sell to little kids all the time.... ..those beasties are fully capable of putting an adult human in the ER and can lead to serious reconstructive surgery as they've been known to do such severe damage (up to an including biting your nose and finger tips off or ripping chunks of flesh out of your arm or leg). I HAVE been bitten by a half-grown sized iguana before (a rescue I took in), but thankfully it wasn't an attack type bite - just a little annoyed graze bite. Still, even though he wasn't being serious, he sliced my hand open as if I had taken a large knife and sliced it open myself... I did not opt to get stitches, though I really should have. I still can't see how people still think those cheap to buy lizards are suitable pets for kids.
Larry Gude
07-21-2009, 01:57 PM
In terms of bacteria.. bites from known harmless snakes are the least type of bite to worry about..they are pinpricks that rarely bleed if at all (some exceptions are water snakes and garter snakes due to anti-coagulants in their saliva which thin the blood and allow you bleed more freely and also leaves the area itchy for several minutes). Wash the site with soap and water and you are good to go.
People generally have more problems getting infections from paper cuts, bites from their pet hamster, or scratches from their cat or dog and that is after having cleaned the wound out. I have never gotten an infection from a snake bite - even when left untreated...and I have been bitten by fresh wild caught snakes and captive bred pet snakes of all sizes.... from just hatched tiny babies up to a large 9 foot long burmese python (teeth size on him was just over 1/4"). Usually, a few hours after a bite you can't even tell I've been bitten unless you know where exactly to look at with a magnifying glass.
About the only thing you really have to worry about from a bite from a harmless snake species is jerking your hand away too quickly in reflex... because the snake's teeth are curved inward, your jerking motion can cause some of the teeth to drag and break off in your skin.. it's like getting a splinter.. just pull them out with tweezers. People who handle snakes frequently learn to suppress that reflex jerk to prevent causing injury to the snake!
Now that's not accounting for when dealing with the huge snakes... those types of bites depending on the location should be seen by a doctor. Not so much because of infections but because there is more surface area they can affect and the larger the snake the larger the teeth so you are no longer dealing with shallow skin surface prickings, but are now dealing with real honest puncture wounds capable of hitting a decent size vein which can cause problems with getting bleeding under control. In the case of large retics or rock pythons whose teeth can reach upwards of an inch or so in length, they can even hit arteries and tendons causing more problems with bleeding and/or mechanical damage/scaring.
Personally, I wouldn't mind getting attacked by a modest size python (under 10 feet)... i'll have some pricks in my skin and maybe a few bruises for a couple days but I'll be fine. I would, however, be horrified to get attacked by an enraged adult green iguana (with comparable teeth size to a modest sized python) ..yanno the kind of lizard that pet stores STILL sell to little kids all the time.... ..those beasties are fully capable of putting an adult human in the ER and can lead to serious reconstructive surgery as they've been known to do such severe damage (up to an including biting your nose and finger tips off or ripping chunks of flesh out of your arm or leg). I HAVE been bitten by a half-grown sized iguana before (a rescue I took in), but thankfully it wasn't an attack type bite - just a little annoyed graze bite. Still, even though he wasn't being serious, he sliced my hand open as if I had taken a large knife and sliced it open myself... I did not opt to get stitches, though I really should have. I still can't see how people still think those cheap to buy lizards are suitable pets for kids.
What an interesting post! Thank you! :buddies:
Larry Gude
07-21-2009, 02:06 PM
Anyone wanna id this guy?
Anyone wanna id this guy?
Could you hold its mouth open and get a pic?
Larry Gude
07-21-2009, 03:01 PM
Could you hold its mouth open and get a pic?
After I cut his head off, I saw no fangs. I just wanna know for sure so I don't kill this type next time.
After I cut his head off, I saw no fangs. I just wanna know for sure so I don't kill this type next time.
Water snake? http://www.state.nj.us/pinelands/images/photo_library/John%20Bunnell/Native%20northern%20water%20snake%20John%20F.%20Bunnell%20400%20copy.jpg
NatureCenter
07-21-2009, 07:46 PM
Anyone wanna id this guy?
Eastern Milksnake. Scientific name: Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum
Harmless (eats small rodents and occasionally lizards and other snakes). They are increasingly becoming VERY hard to find in Maryland due to habitat loss. I've only had 3 babies come through our nature center in the past 25 years. If you still have it, I would take it.
Larry Gude
07-21-2009, 07:55 PM
Eastern Milksnake. Scientific name: Lampropeltis triangulum triangulum
Harmless (eats small rodents and occasionally lizards and other snakes). They are increasingly becoming VERY hard to find in Maryland due to habitat loss. I've only had 3 babies come through our nature center in the past 25 years. If you still have it, I would take it.
Thank you.
Next one is yours!
puggymom
10-13-2011, 04:20 PM
I think I just saw ones of these guys. He was so tiny I thought he was a worm. I am not a fan of snakes but this guy was so cute!!
He crawled in my hubby's deflated Dolphin airblown linebacker guy. Hubby is scared of snakes...I wonder if I should tell him? :evil:
SoMDGirl42
10-13-2011, 04:25 PM
I think I just saw ones of these guys. He was so tiny I thought he was a worm. I am not a fan of snakes but this guy was so cute!!
He crawled in my hubby's deflated Dolphin airblown linebacker guy. Hubby is scared of snakes...I wonder if I should tell him? :evil:
Oh heck no! But PLEASE set up a video camera for when hubby finds him. :killingme
Pasofever
10-13-2011, 07:09 PM
First one, ran over by a truck, the dark red one was found dead in the driveway...what kind of snakie poos are they?
NOT poisonous dont worry about it ....you can tell by the head shape if they were like 8 inches long or smaller I think they are the worm snake...
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