...at schools now. :lol:

It's pointless. They don't have time to get to them between classes anyway...or so they always say.

It's pointless. They don't have time to get to them between classes anyway...or so they always say.Girls have never complained about not having enough time. In fact, sometimes I think they have too much time. :lol:

It's pointless. They don't have time to get to them between classes anyway...or so they always say.

I could smoke two cigarettes between classes, lols.

I could smoke two cigarettes between classes, lols.

We used to smoke between classes too...:cool:

Girls have never complained about not having enough time. In fact, sometimes I think they have too much time. :lol:

We had 6 minutes between classes and the school I went to was all one floor..It was easily 1/3 mile between some classes, longer if you headed outside to have a smoke between classes.

What grade is she in now Chasey?

What grade is she in now Chasey?

7th grade. They didn't have to pay to use the lockers last year, but this year the cost is $5.

7th grade. They didn't have to pay to use the lockers last year, but this year the cost is $5.

I don't get that. It's not like they haven't had the same lockers for years. It's not like they are going to give it to someone else if you can't pay the $5. It's gotten ridiculous.

7th grade. They didn't have to pay to use the lockers last year, but this year the cost is $5.

Jesus.... :faint:

Jesus.... :faint:

Have you seen her lately? Such a pretty little thing..and a nice young lady. :yay:

I don't get that. It's not like they haven't had the same lockers for years. It's not like they are going to give it to someone else if you can't pay the $5. It's gotten ridiculous.

Maybe they have a free/reduced locker program. If so, I'm applying! :yay:

Have you seen her lately? Such a pretty little thing..and a nice young lady. :yay:

Awwww! Thank you!

Have you seen her lately? Such a pretty little thing..and a nice young lady. :yay:

Its been quite a while. She was always very sweet and beautiful.

...at schools now. :lol:

I hear you. Girl told me I need $5 for renting a locker WTF. Did the schools get short changed with the amount of money they got so they have to charge for lockers. I wounder if they will charge for the gym lockers as well.

Maybe they have a free/reduced locker program. If so, I'm applying! :yay:

:lol:

EMS locker rental is $3, they also have to pay $3 for their gym locker.........it's nuts!!!!

EMS locker rental is $3, they also have to pay $3 for their gym locker.........it's nuts!!!!

I was told the same thing by my son who attends Margaret Brent. My answer was "no." I paid for those lockers with my tax money. This is bull####t.

EMS locker rental is $3, they also have to pay $3 for their gym locker.........it's nuts!!!!

zman's homeroom teacher said that there was a charge of $3 and that included the gym locker....maybe because he is in 6th grade it's cheaper?

zman's homeroom teacher said that there was a charge of $3 and that included the gym locker....maybe because he is in 6th grade it's cheaper?

Not sure, I just know I had to give her $6 for the two different lockers. $3.00 for Science lab fee & $10.00 for Art fee. :shrug: I'm sure if she didn't have to pay for both the gym & regular locker she pocketed the $3 she didn't use for something at lunch so it's all good :yay:

back in the old days, I had rental fees for both lockers (gym as well) :shrug:

didn't understand it 20 years ago, still don't understand it. WTH do they use that money for???

And what's with the flash drives this year, too?

BTW, my daughter already has her first field trip scheduled (7th grade). Cost is $12.50 and attendance is mandatory.

And what's with the flash drives this year, too?

BTW, my daughter already has her first field trip scheduled (7th grade). Cost is $12.50 and attendance is mandatory.

WTH do they do w/ all the kids who are low income and cant afford to pay for the fields trips? or gym clothes? locker rentals? etc...

Do we pay for that or does the school?

WTH do they do w/ all the kids who are low income and cant afford to pay for the fields trips? or gym clothes? locker rentals? etc...

Do we pay for that or does the school?

I don't have to deal with the locker rentals yet but I do know for a fact that the school does not pay for field trips. They are optional. If you cannot afford for your child to go, they don't go.

WTH do they do w/ all the kids who are low income and cant afford to pay for the fields trips? or gym clothes? locker rentals? etc...

Do we pay for that or does the school?

There was a blurb on the bottom of the permission slip that addressed "financial help."

As for gym clothes, I went to Target and bought a cheap shirt and a pair of shorts. I wasn't about to spend a ridiculous amount on gym clothes provided by the school.

There was a blurb on the bottom of the permission slip that addressed "financial help."

As for gym clothes, I went to Target and bought a cheap shirt and a pair of shorts. I wasn't about to spend a ridiculous amount on gym clothes provided by the school.

I was told by my son that you had to have their gym clothes :eyebrow:

:tantrum:

They are optional. If you cannot afford for your child to go, they don't go.
Girls permission slip said attendance was mandatory and to make arrangements if payment could not be made.

...at schools now. :lol:

7th grade. They didn't have to pay to use the lockers last year, but this year the cost is $5.

And what's with the flash drives this year, too?

BTW, my daughter already has her first field trip scheduled (7th grade). Cost is $12.50 and attendance is mandatory.

As for gym clothes, I went to Target and bought a cheap shirt and a pair of shorts. I wasn't about to spend a ridiculous amount on gym clothes provided by the school.
Goodness! They are really trying to cut in on your Coach bag, vacation and mani/pedi fund, huh...:huggy:

I was told by my son that you had to have their gym clothes :eyebrow:

:tantrum:

Maybe each school is different (don't know why). I asked last year and was told kids could wear anything that was appropriate. I picked up cheaper clothes in school colors and my daughter was fine w/it.

Goodness! They are really trying to cut in on your Coach bag, vacation and mani/pedi fund, huh...:huggy:

My luxuries come first, always. Then my girl's education. :smile:

Girls permission slip said attendance was mandatory and to make arrangements if payment could not be made.

Boy's didn't have that same blurb. He went on 2 field trips last year. I think one was $7 and the other $8.

Boy's didn't have that same blurb. He went on 2 field trips last year. I think one was $7 and the other $8.

Neither did my daughter's field trips last year. This year is different. I don't know if it's by school/grade/county...:shrug:

7th grade. They didn't have to pay to use the lockers last year, but this year the cost is $5.

I wonder if it's more a legal issue.

I remember there being issues with wall locker searches, and convictions resulting from.. The question at the time was who owned the locker, and who had the warrant/ authority to cut the lock to get into the locker.

If the school rents the lockers to the student the question of ownership has been resolved.

I wonder if it's more a legal issue.

I remember there being issues with wall locker searches, and convictions resulting from.. The question at the time was who owned the locker, and who had the warrant/ authority to cut the lock to get into the locker.

If the school rents the lockers to the student the question of ownership has been resolved.

The school does and always will own the lockers. :confused:

Girls permission slip said attendance was mandatory and to make arrangements if payment could not be made.

i thought it was 4th grade the girls did the mandatory tour of the local maternity wards, get introduced to the staff etc??

Have they changed it to 7th?

The school does and always will own the lockers. :confused:

not true...

not true...

Either the school or whomever governs the school. :shrug:

Either the school or whomever governs the school. :shrug:

That would be our fantastic government. :yay:

not true...

Either the school or whomever governs the school. :shrug:

I bought into the "locker timeshare ownership" program. My kid gets to use the locker whenever she wants during the week of November 2-6.

I bought into the "locker timeshare ownership" program. My kid gets to use the locker whenever she wants during the week of November 2-6.

:lol: I can remember sharing a locker in highschool because there were not enough lockers for everyone. My locker partners were always slobs and there was never enough room in the locker for both of our stuff. They needed shelves in them.

:lol: I can remember sharing a locker in highschool because there were not enough lockers for everyone. My locker partners were always slobs and there was never enough room in the locker for both of our stuff. They needed shelves in them.

My daughter wallpapered her locker. She picked up a clip on reading lamp yesterday in a shade to match. :yay: The furniture is being delivered next week. It's gonna be really nice.

Either the school or whomever governs the school. :shrug:

You'd think, but the issue was over a kid in high school who's locker was searched and they found all kind of illiict drugs - what he was selling.

Lawyer that was defending him said it was an illegal search as they didn't have a warrant, they didn't ask the kid (or his parents) permission to search the locker.

Argument was who had the authority (who 'owned' the locker) to ok the search. School didn't 'own' the locker, or it's contents so their consent to search was worthless.

You'd think, but the issue was over a kid in high school who's locker was searched and they found all kind of illiict drugs - what he was selling.

Lawyer that was defending him said it was an illegal search as they didn't have a warrant, they didn't ask the kid (or his parents) permission to search the locker.

Argument was who had the authority (who 'owned' the locker) to ok the search. School didn't 'own' the locker, or it's contents so their consent to search was worthless.

That's ####ing ridiculous.

That's ####ing ridiculous.

Search student locker - can a school official do this? (http://law.freeadvice.com/government_law/education_law/student_locker_search.htm)

Can a school official search a student's locker?

While the U.S. Constitution upholds the right to be safe from unreasonable searches and seizures, the standard for school searches is less rigid. The search is lawful if the school has a "reasonable suspicion" that a school rule has been violated. This means the search must be justified when made and reasonably related to the circumstances being investigated. For example, a student is believed to have been smoking on campus, but denies it. A reasonable search can be made of the purse or backpack he or she was carrying at the time of the incident. His or her locker and pockets can also be legally searched. Courts will weigh a student's right to privacy against a school's need to obtain evidence of school rule violations and violations of the law. This "reasonable suspicion" standard has been upheld in challenges to locker, desk, and car searches.

(Reviewed December 5, 2007)

And as spelled out for Baltimore... http://www.bcps.k12.md.us/Departments/School_Police/PDF/BCPSSMetalDetectors.pdf

They really do nickel and dime us. Son needed $3 locker rental (and has to share a locker), $15 for spanish workbook, $15 for Foundations of Technology lab fee, a flashdrive for the Found of Tech class and another flashdrive for Health class (why do you need a flashdrive for health class?). Plus the $80+ I spent over the weekend on the various binders and other school supplies he needed. Also, class pictures are next week and the cheapest package is $42 for a small amount of pictures. Picture cost will be twice that since I have 2 kids there.

Search student locker - can a school official do this? (http://law.freeadvice.com/government_law/education_law/student_locker_search.htm)

Can a school official search a student's locker?

While the U.S. Constitution upholds the right to be safe from unreasonable searches and seizures, the standard for school searches is less rigid. The search is lawful if the school has a "reasonable suspicion" that a school rule has been violated. This means the search must be justified when made and reasonably related to the circumstances being investigated. For example, a student is believed to have been smoking on campus, but denies it. A reasonable search can be made of the purse or backpack he or she was carrying at the time of the incident. His or her locker and pockets can also be legally searched. Courts will weigh a student's right to privacy against a school's need to obtain evidence of school rule violations and violations of the law. This "reasonable suspicion" standard has been upheld in challenges to locker, desk, and car searches.

(Reviewed December 5, 2007)

And as spelled out for Baltimore... http://www.bcps.k12.md.us/Departments/School_Police/PDF/BCPSSMetalDetectors.pdf

I think this keys on "reasonable suspicion". In other words the principal can't just decide to inspect all the lockers in the school, nor can he call in drug dogs to find drugs in the lockers at school. AND if he does, and the dog alerts on a locker, and he, or the cops search the locker without consent, it's an illegal search.

The same as your house. If there is reasonable suspicion (ie following OJ's bloody trail to his front door) you don't need a warrant to search. If there is no direct connection/suspicion, or have not witnessed a crime, you must get a warrant.

They really do nickel and dime us. Son needed $3 locker rental (and has to share a locker), $15 for spanish workbook, $15 for Foundations of Technology lab fee, a flashdrive for the Found of Tech class and another flashdrive for Health class (why do you need a flashdrive for health class?). Plus the $80+ I spent over the weekend on the various binders and other school supplies he needed. Also, class pictures are next week and the cheapest package is $42 for a small amount of pictures. Picture cost will be twice that since I have 2 kids there.

:lol: Yep, that sounds like 9th grade, except my son needed an additional flash drive for Science.

I think this keys on "reasonable suspicion". In other words the principal can't just decide to inspect all the lockers in the school, nor can he call in drug dogs to find drugs in the lockers at school. AND if he does, and the dog alerts on a locker, and he, or the cops search the locker without consent, it's an illegal search.

The same as your house. If there is reasonable suspicion (ie following OJ's bloody trail to his front door) you don't need a warrant to search. If there is no direct connection/suspicion, or have not witnessed a crime, you must get a warrant. The same as a cop can't walk a drug dog through your neighborhood to find the crack house. The dog alerting on the rundown shack on the corner is not reasonable cause for a warrantless search

I think this keys on "reasonable suspicion". In other words the principal can't just decide to inspect all the lockers in the school, nor can he call in drug dogs to find drugs in the lockers at school. AND if he does, and the dog alerts on a locker, and he, or the cops search the locker without consent, it's an illegal search.

The same as your house. If there is reasonable suspicion (ie following OJ's bloody trail to his front door) you don't need a warrant to search. If there is no direct connection/suspicion, or have not witnessed a crime, you must get a warrant.

I think this keys on "reasonable suspicion". In other words the principal can't just decide to inspect all the lockers in the school, nor can he call in drug dogs to find drugs in the lockers at school. AND if he does, and the dog alerts on a locker, and he, or the cops search the locker without consent, it's an illegal search.

The same as your house. If there is reasonable suspicion (ie following OJ's bloody trail to his front door) you don't need a warrant to search. If there is no direct connection/suspicion, or have not witnessed a crime, you must get a warrant. The same as a cop can't walk a drug dog through your neighborhood to find the crack house. The dog alerting on the rundown shack on the corner is not reasonable cause for a warrantless search
Wow. You too sound so much alike these days. :eyebrow:

I hear you. Girl told me I need $5 for renting a locker WTF. Did the schools get short changed with the amount of money they got so they have to charge for lockers. I wounder if they will charge for the gym lockers as well.
St Marys schools did not get short changed.
average per student spending in St Marys is just over 9,000 per year, compared to 6,050 in Anne Arundel and $7,051 per student in Baltimore city.

I bet that the PTA or PTO depending on what you have there, is getting the money.
So much money gets sucked out of AA county to support Baltimore City and PG (because the way the district lines are drawn, that a couple years ago the PTO had to beg parents for money to replace old lockers.

:lol: Yep, that sounds like 9th grade, except my son needed an additional flash drive for Science.

Uh oh. I hope I didn't overlook that on his Science list. I'll have to doublecheck that.

Wow. You too sound so much alike these days. :eyebrow:

We're just an old married couple that looks like our dog..

We're just an old married couple that looks like our dog..Your grey hair does match Muttley's grey hair, but mine doesn't. :bonk:

And don't forget that you are much older than I am. :blushing:

Your grey hair does match Muttley's grey hair, but mine doesn't. :bonk:

And don't forget that you are much older than I am. :blushing:

Muttley's is much darker isn't it........:killingme And shame on bob for robbing the cradle....:killingme:killingme

I wonder if it's more a legal issue.

I remember there being issues with wall locker searches, and convictions resulting from.. The question at the time was who owned the locker, and who had the warrant/ authority to cut the lock to get into the locker.

If the school rents the lockers to the student the question of ownership has been resolved.


Actually, that is not true. When the schools rents the locker, they no longer have legal access to it without permission. Just like a landloard can not search the home he rents out, the rental aspect changes the privacy rights.

I talked with the Assistant Prin. at Margaret Brent today regarding this. She told me they use the money for school activities. Sometimes for classroom supplies; sometimes for assemblies and such. I may pursue this more and ask for last year's financial statement under the Freedom of Information Act. I am just curious. If they asked for donations, I would give them more money than just the $4 rental fee. I just don't like the idea of them charging for locker usage. Next thing you know they will want to charge for "chair rental" or for the use of the bathoom facilties.

Middle schoolers can now add roller skates to their rentals each year. :yay:

Middle schoolers can now add roller skates to their rentals each year. :yay:

Are you serious?

Are you serious?

Yep! I asked girl why she needed money to rent skates. She said that "some of the skates were ruined last year, so the school needs money to replace them." Not sure how accurate that is, but that's what she was told by her gym teacher.

I told her that she didn't ruin any skates last year so I'm not paying. Then I wrote a note to her teacher asking for "documentation" of the rental fee.

We'll see how that goes.

Yep! I asked girl why she needed money to rent skates. She said that "some of the skates were ruined last year, so the school needs money to replace them." Not sure how accurate that is, but that's what she was told by her gym teacher.

I told her that she didn't ruin any skates last year so I'm not paying. Then I wrote a note to her teacher asking for "documentation" of the rental fee.

We'll see how that goes.
Since when does SMCPS have a roller derby league?

Not sure, I just know I had to give her $6 for the two different lockers. $3.00 for Science lab fee & $10.00 for Art fee. :shrug: I'm sure if she didn't have to pay for both the gym & regular locker she pocketed the $3 she didn't use for something at lunch so it's all good :yay:

My stepson had the Science Lab fee and $15.00 for Engineering Class plus the locker fees. I thought it was kind of crazy!

Uh oh. I hope I didn't overlook that on his Science list. I'll have to doublecheck that.

:howdy: Hi! I don't have school age kids anymore, but thought i would share with you. Be careful what computer your kids put their flash drives in when they are working on stuff at home. The neighbors daughter was in the web building class and brought the flash drive home to do work on her computer. The whole system crashed. There was a virus on the school computer and she brought it home in the flash drive. may want to check it first if possible for viruses, so the home computer does not get ruined.

Yep! I asked girl why she needed money to rent skates. She said that "some of the skates were ruined last year, so the school needs money to replace them." Not sure how accurate that is, but that's what she was told by her gym teacher.

I told her that she didn't ruin any skates last year so I'm not paying. Then I wrote a note to her teacher asking for "documentation" of the rental fee.

We'll see how that goes.

No kidding how silly is that!

I still remember the first year I took my son to kindergarten class he was so happy because he had gone the weekend before and got to pick out his own spiderman pencil box, pencils, his crayons, etc... well when I picked him up that day he was standing next to his teacher :bawl: The teacher said "he got a little upset this afternoon he should be fine though"

Apparently they took all of the supplies the kids brought in and put them in a community box. When I called the school they said that it helped incase all the kids didnt bring in the supplies or no supplies at all. So I said well if that is the case give my son back his items and I will go to wal mart and purchase the inexpenisve supplies for the community box. :boo:

So I said well if that is the case give my son back his items and I will go to wal mart and purchase the inexpenisve supplies for the community box. :boo:

Agreed!

I never had a locker or any fees to use...anything at school (that I can think of). Special students with a need got lockers in high school, but for the most part we were stuck with massive backpacks that had 50 text books and notepads. Sometimes there'd be enough time to go between classes, but sometimes you get that jerk of a teacher who says class isn't over til they say it's over, and occasionally hold you after the bell. Then it's just a mad dash to make it on time without even going to your locker.

We only had 4 classes a day for 1.5 hours each, so we only had 4 textbooks and notebooks to deal with. Probably sucks a lot more if you have 6-7 classes a day.

I never had a locker or any fees to use...anything at school (that I can think of). Special students with a need got lockers in high school, but for the most part we were stuck with massive backpacks that had 50 text books and notepads. Sometimes there'd be enough time to go between classes, but sometimes you get that jerk of a teacher who says class isn't over til they say it's over, and occasionally hold you after the bell. Then it's just a mad dash to make it on time without even going to your locker.

We only had 4 classes a day for 1.5 hours each, so we only had 4 textbooks and notebooks to deal with. Probably sucks a lot more if you have 6-7 classes a day.

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Sorry babes, couldn't resist. :love:

7th grade. They didn't have to pay to use the lockers last year, but this year the cost is $5.

High school is $3.00 and they barely have enough time to get there in between classes.

Never had locker fees either...........wtf ?

I was told by my son that you had to have their gym clothes :eyebrow:

:tantrum:

I was told that too. But I'm sure my Ex was wrong about it. So he paid for the gym clothes.

St Marys schools did not get short changed.
average per student spending in St Marys is just over 9,000 per year, compared to 6,050 in Anne Arundel and $7,051 per student in Baltimore city.

I bet that the PTA or PTO depending on what you have there, is getting the money.
So much money gets sucked out of AA county to support Baltimore City and PG (because the way the district lines are drawn, that a couple years ago the PTO had to beg parents for money to replace old lockers.


The paper I received from school said that locker fees will go to the PTA.

They really do nickel and dime us. Son needed $3 locker rental (and has to share a locker), $15 for spanish workbook, $15 for Foundations of Technology lab fee, a flashdrive for the Found of Tech class and another flashdrive for Health class (why do you need a flashdrive for health class?). Plus the $80+ I spent over the weekend on the various binders and other school supplies he needed. Also, class pictures are next week and the cheapest package is $42 for a small amount of pictures. Picture cost will be twice that since I have 2 kids there.

Just wait until college. :lol: When you get "great deals" on used books for $100 and when you're paying $150+ lab fees, you'll wish he was back in high school. :lol: