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Sadielady
09-23-2009, 07:02 PM
Who has them? What kind do you recommend? How much do they cost to run? Does anyone have any portable light ideas? It is going to be dark soon. :cds:

aps45819
09-23-2009, 08:12 PM
I have a 4 D cell Mag Light. :yay:

CountryLady
09-24-2009, 09:11 AM
What are you trying to light up?

portable? I use a milwalkee flashlight.

You can sit it down aim the light where you want...has rechargable batteries.
I bought the drill and flashlight combo, whis is great for the barn.

fredsaid2
09-24-2009, 09:20 AM
There's your answer Sadie, hook up your riding arena w/ a bunch of flashlights. Go Green w/ the rechargables! :biggrin:

CountryLady
09-24-2009, 09:29 AM
There's your answer Sadie, hook up your riding arena w/ a bunch of flashlights. Go Green w/ the rechargables! :biggrin:

She didn't say riding arena!

:killingme

I don't think she specified at all, that is why I asked.

BUT she did say portable.

mingiz
09-24-2009, 10:09 AM
There's your answer Sadie, hook up your riding arena w/ a bunch of flashlights. Go Green w/ the rechargables! :biggrin:

:killingme:killingme:killingme

mingiz
09-24-2009, 10:16 AM
Who has them? What kind do you recommend? How much do they cost to run? Does anyone have any portable light ideas? It is going to be dark soon. :cds:

Better stick with flash lights...:whistle:.Here is a site that gives ya an idea...Expensive!!!!
Horse Arena Lighting Package 100x100 For Wooden Poles (http://www.residential-landscape-lighting-design.com/store/outdoor_horse_arena_lighting_packages_RLLD15419TEC.htm)

Or you can go with flood lights
Quartz Halogen Floodlights - ProLighting.com (http://www.prolighting.com/fixtures-floodlights-quartz-floods.html)

Here's an article on arena lighting from the horse channel
Lighting Horse Arena (http://www.horsechannel.com/horse-exclusives/lighting-horse-arena.aspx)

fredsaid2
09-24-2009, 10:19 AM
Better stick with flash lights...:whistle:.Here is a site that gives ya an idea...Expensive!!!!
Horse Arena Lighting Package 100x100 For Wooden Poles (http://www.residential-landscape-lighting-design.com/store/outdoor_horse_arena_lighting_packages_RLLD15419TEC.htm)

Oh my Heavens!!! I think Sadie will just have to ride w/ the sun.

Sparks
09-24-2009, 10:48 AM
We bought used golf driving range lights. Metal Halide. It's really the wiring that was the most expensive part.

mingiz
09-24-2009, 11:27 AM
Oh my Heavens!!! I think Sadie will just have to ride w/ the sun.

:killingme:killingme Well atleast it's the Sunshine state that she lives in...:popcorn:

BZHorseMomE
09-24-2009, 03:17 PM
We bought used golf driving range lights. Metal Halide. It's really the wiring that was the most expensive part.

Are those lights that go on a telephone pole or like the ones you see paving crews using for night work?

Sparks
09-24-2009, 04:09 PM
Are those lights that go on a telephone pole or like the ones you see paving crews using for night work?

They are on top of 6 telephone poles. One light per pole. 3 poles on each long side. Covers an area about 100x175. If I were to do it again, I'd have put a pole on the short ends as well.

Sadielady
09-24-2009, 10:30 PM
Okay, I think Countylady may have an idea. I did see a hunting caps that had LCD lights in them, maybe I could attach one of the caps to the bridle. I am not joking at Lowes the guy seriously suggested the cap because the lights were so bright. I was thinking....he was not so bright. I did see a big light that ran about $40. I just want enough light to ride in at night. Ghetto lights, I live in the sticks....no one out here would care. SParks, you have the fancy stuff! I want it, but my wallet says "no". :killingme

Sadielady
09-24-2009, 10:31 PM
I already have some nice big telephone/electrical poles in my yard. I wonder if I have to get permission to use them.:whistle:

appaholic
09-25-2009, 09:09 AM
I hate that empty wallet thing! Horsewomen can spend alot of money, and we would do it wisely!:killingme
Sounds like you are doing alot of work! Congrats, I am sure you will enjoy barn/lighted ring.:yahoo:

Sadielady
09-25-2009, 12:08 PM
I think there are rules or laws or something about the light cannot cross onto anothers property. Is that true or did I make it up?

CountryLady
09-26-2009, 12:07 PM
I think there are rules or laws or something about the light cannot cross onto anothers property. Is that true or did I make it up?

For permanent lighting you should get permission from neighbors it would potentially affect. You might disturb their serenity. People have sued for stuff like that.

I know you are in Florida, but the local electric company will give (for free) telephone poles. You haul safely away. Most telephone poles along the side of the road are only set into the ground 3 feet. Setting telephone poles in the ground for lighting pruposes, 3 feet is plenty. Florida has a lot of sandy soil, so deeper may be better, I don't know for sure. You could ask your local utility company what their standard depth is for setting a telephone pole in your area is.

:coffee:

Sadielady
09-26-2009, 03:49 PM
For permanent lighting you should get permission from neighbors it would potentially affect. You might disturb their serenity. People have sued for stuff like that.

I know you are in Florida, but the local electric company will give (for free) telephone poles. You haul safely away. Most telephone poles along the side of the road are only set into the ground 3 feet. Setting telephone poles in the ground for lighting pruposes, 3 feet is plenty. Florida has a lot of sandy soil, so deeper may be better, I don't know for sure. You could ask your local utility company what their standard depth is for setting a telephone pole in your area is.

:coffee:

Only 3 feet??? I don't want to stand under that pole. With the hurricanes down here I would think they might be deeper down here. I will check!

ImAChvyGirl
09-26-2009, 04:31 PM
Okay, I think Countylady may have an idea. I did see a hunting caps that had LCD lights in them, maybe I could attach one of the caps to the bridle. I am not joking at Lowes the guy seriously suggested the cap because the lights were so bright. I was thinking....he was not so bright. I did see a big light that ran about $40. I just want enough light to ride in at night. Ghetto lights, I live in the sticks....no one out here would care. SParks, you have the fancy stuff! I want it, but my wallet says "no". :killingme


They make lights that slide on to the bill of a hard hat that might work on the bridle of the horse instead of buying a ball cap and cutting them!!

Baja28
09-26-2009, 05:03 PM
They make lights that slide on to the bill of a hard hat that might work on the bridle of the horse instead of buying a ball cap and cutting them!!
...

paintedpony1234
11-18-2009, 11:58 AM
They are on top of 6 telephone poles. One light per pole. 3 poles on each long side. Covers an area about 100x175. If I were to do it again, I'd have put a pole on the short ends as well.

How tall are the poles that you used? 20 ft vs 30 ft??

What is the wattage on the lights? are they 400 Watt or 1000 Watt??


:confused::confused:

Sparks
11-18-2009, 03:27 PM
How tall are the poles that you used? 20 ft vs 30 ft??

What is the wattage on the lights? are they 400 Watt or 1000 Watt??


:confused::confused:

Each Light is 400w MH.

Jeez, on the height, I don't think the poles are 30ft but I don't think they are 20 either. I do think they are about 4-5 feet in the ground. Maybe they were 25 foot poles??? I would like them a little taller if I had that choice. My guess would be that they are about 18-20 feet OUT of the ground.

We got the poles from a company in Warsaw, VA.

paintedpony1234
11-18-2009, 04:50 PM
:banana:

thanks for the help!! i think i will try to get 30' poles - 5-6 feet in the ground

so excited!!

Sparks
11-19-2009, 10:37 AM
If you would like to come see them at night, I don't mind. Just send me a PM.

BZHorseMomE
11-19-2009, 10:45 AM
If you would like to come see them at night, I don't mind. Just send me a PM.

Sparks who did you get to put the poles in the ground and how much did that cost per pole?

CountryLady
11-19-2009, 12:37 PM
:banana:

thanks for the help!! i think i will try to get 30' poles - 5-6 feet in the ground

so excited!!

Not sure where you are located but SMECO gives away used telephone poles. U-Haul. (however, back in the day, some of the local crews working nearby would drop a few off for a case of beer :killingme)

If you are in maryland, and the poles arent going to be used for anything other than a light pole 3-4 feet is plenty! MOST telephone poles are set 3' in the ground, depending on how much tension is on them. The local line crews who have to occasionally set them buy hand, told me what the depth requirement was. Most augers dig about 3-4 ft. I have a 9 inch auger that is PTO driven, and we set our high tensile fence posts (that had tension on them) at 4 feet, and we had to actually dig the last little bit. I have 1000lbs of tension on my poles.

NOTE: Augers are dangerous and unless you are very familiar with farm implements and PTO, I recommend you get someone to do it for you.
Augers have the potential to kill you in a matter of seconds!!!

huntr1
11-19-2009, 12:55 PM
Frost line in MD is 32" I believe. Either 28 or 32. So long as you are below the frost line, you are fine.

Sparks
11-19-2009, 02:22 PM
Not sure where you are located but SMECO gives away used telephone poles. U-Haul. (however, back in the day, some of the local crews working nearby would drop a few off for a case of beer :killingme)

If you are in maryland, and the poles arent going to be used for anything other than a light pole 3-4 feet is plenty! MOST telephone poles are set 3' in the ground, depending on how much tension is on them. The local line crews who have to occasionally set them buy hand, told me what the depth requirement was. Most augers dig about 3-4 ft. I have a 9 inch auger that is PTO driven, and we set our high tensile fence posts (that had tension on them) at 4 feet, and we had to actually dig the last little bit. I have 1000lbs of tension on my poles.

NOTE: Augers are dangerous and unless you are very familiar with farm implements and PTO, I recommend you get someone to do it for you.
Augers have the potential to kill you in a matter of seconds!!!

I would not try and set a 30 foot telephone pole myself. As far as how deep they are set, I'd imagine you'd want to consider the weight of the light. My lights were quite heavy. I'd call SMECO and see if they'll set the poles for you.

We also rented a Lift to install the lights on the poles once they were set.

huntr - what does the frost line have to do with it??

CountryLady
11-19-2009, 07:40 PM
If you don't plant the pole to a depth below the frost line, when the ground freezes it can push the poles up out of the ground. It also can freeze water in the pipes if they are not below the frost line.

Sparks
11-19-2009, 09:47 PM
If you don't plant the pole to a depth below the frost line, when the ground freezes it can push the poles up out of the ground. It also can freeze water in the pipes if they are not below the frost line.

I know what the frost line is, just not sure what it has to do with this conversation. :shrug: The bottom of a planted 30' pole will be several FEET below the frost line.

CountryLady
11-20-2009, 01:48 PM
I know what the frost line is, just not sure what it has to do with this conversation. :shrug: The bottom of a planted 30' pole will be several FEET below the frost line.

I think huntr was just trying to make sure you were aware of what the frost line LOCALLY as too take it into account for your project.

The local building codes should take frost depth into account because of “frost heaving,” which can damage buildings by moving its foundation and or (push your telephone pole up out of the ground which can cause leaning). Foundations are normally built below the frost depth and likewise fence posts, light poles & water pipes are installed below this line for this same reason. So knowing what the frost line is for your area is important information. I think huntr is right, but I would double check with the utilities company or local county office (bldg permits) tho.

Also, You might want to call "Miss Utility" at 1-800-257-7777, to have all utilities located prior to any digging. You have to give them 48hrs notice prior to digging. It is free of charge for them to come mark.

Also, Most counties do not locate or mark your private water and sewer lines. They usually have no information or maps indicating how the plumber ran your private water and sewer lines. So they will only mark up to your property line, which usually means your water meter, and sewer cleanout.

paintedpony1234
11-20-2009, 02:12 PM
I think huntr was just trying to make sure you were aware of what the frost line LOCALLY as too take it into account for your project.

The local building codes should take frost depth into account because of “frost heaving,” which can damage buildings by moving its foundation and or (push your telephone pole up out of the ground which can cause leaning). Foundations are normally built below the frost depth and likewise fence posts, light poles & water pipes are installed below this line for this same reason. So knowing what the frost line is for your area is important information. I think huntr is right, but I would double check with the utilities company or local county office (bldg permits) tho.

Also, You might want to call "Miss Utility" at 1-800-257-7777, to have all utilities located prior to any digging. You have to give them 48hrs notice prior to digging. It is free of charge for them to come mark.

Also, Most counties do not locate or mark your private water and sewer lines. They usually have no information or maps indicating how the plumber ran your private water and sewer lines. So they will only mark up to your property line, which usually means your water meter, and sewer cleanout.

- burning my hand on hydraulic auger - check
- called miss utility for random wires running around farm - check
- called local boys about poles - tempted them with beer and stuffed ham sandwiches - check
- called in professional to deliver and set poles - check
- walked through it with electrician (who wasn't bad looking charming personality) - check

now i just need a check to pay for it all!!

CountryLady
11-20-2009, 02:20 PM
- burning my hand on hydraulic auger - check
- called miss utility for random wires running around farm - check
- called local boys about poles - tempted them with beer and stuffed ham sandwiches - check
- called in professional to deliver and set poles - check
- walked through it with electrician (who wasn't bad looking charming personality) - check

now i just need a check to pay for it all!!

:lmao:
GOOD JOB!


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