I'm trying to help out my brother and his girlfriend. They are looking for a female french bulldog to adopt. They don't want to purchase from a breeder. They would prefer a dog under a year and she must be female. They have a dachshund that only likes female dogs. If anyone knows anyone that needs to give their dog away or of any rescues that have one please let me know. TIA

I'm trying to help out my brother and his girlfriend. They are looking for a female french bulldog to adopt. They don't want to purchase from a breeder. They would prefer a dog under a year and she must be female. They have a dachshund that only likes female dogs. If anyone knows anyone that needs to give their dog away or of any rescues that have one please let me know. TIA


There is a whole list of them on French Bulldog Rescue Network (http://www.frenchbulldogrescue.org). I assume they are willing to pay adoption fees?

The adoption fees are not a problem.

The adoption fees are not a problem.

They shouldn't have much of a problem then. But due to the fact you don't see many around here, they may have to go with the breed specific Frenchy rescues. G'luck to them.

Frenchies are hard to find ..at least "rescue Frenchies."

There is a whole list of them on French Bulldog Rescue Network (http://www.frenchbulldogrescue.org). I assume they are willing to pay adoption fees?

Our adoption fee for dogs 1-8 years of age is $450; for dogs under a year, $600; and $250 for dogs eight years or older, or for dogs with serious handicaps (in U.S. Funds).

Wow.

Wow.

The breeder that owns Abbey's dad stopped breeding Boxers to focus all of her attention on her Frenchies. They are darling. I'd love to have one. Hers are rather pricey but most of them are. Not an easy breed to "birth," etc.

A lot of people have started to breed them for the $$ and as typically happens there are some really poor quality Frenchies around and a good many of the ones in rescue have a lot of health issues.

The breeder that owns Abbey's dad stopped breeding Boxers to focus all of her attention on her Frenchies. They are darling. I'd love to have one. Hers are rather pricey but most of them are. Not an easy breed to "birth," etc.

A lot of people have started to breed them for the $$ and as typically happens there are some really poor quality Frenchies around and a good many of the ones in rescue have a lot of health issues.

I'm just wondering why their younger dogs are more expensive to adopt, considering the younger dogs are *usually* more healthy. I'm not sure I agree with a rescue charging more for dogs just because demand is higher. I don't see how a younger dog would cost more to rescue than an older dog. I can understand why they have smaller fees for seniors, but I don't really like the idea of higher fees for "in demand" younger dogs.

I'm just wondering why their younger dogs are more expensive to adopt, considering the younger dogs are *usually* more healthy. I'm not sure I agree with a rescue charging more for dogs just because demand is higher. I don't see how a younger dog would cost more to rescue than an older dog. I can understand why they have smaller fees for seniors, but I don't really like the idea of higher fees for "in demand" younger dogs.

Yeah, I don't know..unless they've had a lot of vetting to do..or it could be just to deter people..

Frenchies are hard to find ..at least "rescue Frenchies."

It's a sign!! FBRN Available Dogs! (http://www.frenchbulldogrescue.org/htdocs/available/coach.html)

It's a sign!! FBRN Available Dogs! (http://www.frenchbulldogrescue.org/htdocs/available/coach.html)

Isn't he adorable. :clap:

It's a sign!! FBRN Available Dogs! (http://www.frenchbulldogrescue.org/htdocs/available/coach.html)

I saw him. So cute! And his fee is much less.

I'm just wondering why their younger dogs are more expensive to adopt, considering the younger dogs are *usually* more healthy. I'm not sure I agree with a rescue charging more for dogs just because demand is higher. I don't see how a younger dog would cost more to rescue than an older dog. I can understand why they have smaller fees for seniors, but I don't really like the idea of higher fees for "in demand" younger dogs.

Simple. People are less apt to make a rash, impulsive decision if it means more than a negligible monetary investment. I've always thought breed rescues should charge 2/3 of what a breeder or broker would sell the dog for, unless sending to a home where the dog will obviously be permanent and responsibly trained / kept, and that is rarely obvious.

The higher price keeps a lot of the "oh aren't they cute I've never owned a dog but gee I think we should get one what about you honey"s away. It also encourages serious folk to take a second look at the older and special needs dogs, who are harder to adopt out to begin with, and helps make up for THEIR vet fees.

Simple. People are less apt to make a rash, impulsive decision if it means more than a negligible monetary investment. I've always thought breed rescues should charge 2/3 of what a breeder or broker would sell the dog for, unless sending to a home where the dog will obviously be permanent and responsibly trained / kept, and that is rarely obvious.

The higher price keeps a lot of the "oh aren't they cute I've never owned a dog but gee I think we should get one what about you honey"s away. It also encourages serious folk to take a second look at the older and special needs dogs, who are harder to adopt out to begin with, and helps make up for THEIR vet fees.

Well, isn't the application to ensure the pet would be going to a good home? They can get all the info they need by references, vet history, application, etc. I don't think it's necessary to jack up the fee.

Well, isn't the application to ensure the pet would be going to a good home? They can get all the info they need by references, vet history, application, etc. I don't think it's necessary to jack up the fee.

People lie. People mislead. People can meet almost all the criteria and still be lousy dog owners.

If you aren't willing to, or can't afford to, plop down $500 for your dog of choice, especially when a dog from a breeder is 2 to 3 times more at a minimum, then you shouldn't be getting a dog. If you think $500 is expensive, what happens when the dog has respiratory issues or renal failure and you have to plunk down $1500 or more for vet care?

People think they are doing the rescues a service by adopting. Fact is, the rescues are doing US a service by providing a central point where you can find the dog you want at an affordable price. They are entitled to recoup their losses any way they see fit, as long as people are still adopting. They are even entitled to 'profit' a little to expand their capability to house more dogs, etc.

You can feel any way you want, but the reality is that feeding, housing, vetting, and paying all the associated bills such as cleaning and sanitizing really add up. Many of these dogs are in the care of rescues for extended periods... there is a reason boarding facilities charge $25+ a day, it really isn't much cheaper for the rescues to care for these dogs when you add it all together.

Personally, I'm sick of seeing all the dogs around here left in back yards and tied to trees. They probably wouldn't have bothered if they had to spend $$ to get the dog in the first place..... I think they could even charge more for dogs like Frenchies. Why not?

People lie. People mislead. People can meet almost all the criteria and still be lousy dog owners.

If you aren't willing to, or can't afford to, plop down $500 for your dog of choice, especially when a dog from a breeder is 2 to 3 times more at a minimum, then you shouldn't be getting a dog. If you think $500 is expensive, what happens when the dog has respiratory issues or renal failure and you have to plunk down $1500 or more for vet care?

People think they are doing the rescues a service by adopting. Fact is, the rescues are doing US a service by providing a central point where you can find the dog you want at an affordable price. They are entitled to recoup their losses any way they see fit, as long as people are still adopting. They are even entitled to 'profit' a little to expand their capability to house more dogs, etc.

You can feel any way you want, but the reality is that feeding, housing, vetting, and paying all the associated bills such as cleaning and sanitizing really add up. Many of these dogs are in the care of rescues for extended periods... there is a reason boarding facilities charge $25+ a day, it really isn't much cheaper for the rescues to care for these dogs when you add it all together.

Personally, I'm sick of seeing all the dogs around here left in back yards and tied to trees. They probably wouldn't have bothered if they had to spend $$ to get the dog in the first place..... I think they could even charge more for dogs like Frenchies. Why not?


:lol:

People pay $2k for dogs and don't take care of them so the theory that if someone spends big bucks on a dog they will take care of it is seriously flawed. And there are EXCELLENT dog owners that can't afford a large vet bill.

I think Cowgirl is very familiar with how a rescue works.

I think Cowgirl is very familiar with how a rescue works.

I am, and I still don't agree that if you can't afford to pay $500 for a dog it means you aren't a good pet owner. :shrug:

I am, and I still don't agree that if you can't afford to pay $500 for a dog it means you aren't a good pet owner. :shrug:

I agree with you.

:lol:

People pay $2k for dogs and don't take care of them so the theory that if someone spends big bucks on a dog they will take care of it is seriously flawed. And there are EXCELLENT dog owners that can't afford a large vet bill.

I think Cowgirl is very familiar with how a rescue works.

Please show me where I said that someone that spends ANY amount on a dog will take of of it?

Do you really believe that someone who can't afford to take care of a dogs medical needs should own one? I don't know what planet you are from, but a $1500 vet bill is not exactly excessive these days. I know people that have taken second mortgages to pay vet bills. Seriously. Do I think you need to have $20,000 on henad to own a dog? No. But if you can't afford $500 for the initial purchase or fee, than you probably don't have the financial ability to provide proper vet care. Flea and heartworm provential are considered 'expensive' by many pet owners for crying out loud.

Just becaue someone has good intentions and treats the dog like a tiny diety doesn't make them a good owner either. Gawd I'm so sick of casual, never train, never work, just a pet, yard full of poop / crap in other peoples yards - go to the offleash park and stand around chatting while their dog growls, mounts, engages in dangerous behavior "Gee how cute" - get a dog cuz it's 'cute' and never really do anything WITH it 'pet owners' I'm ready to vomit. And yes, that includes a whole laundry list of people with disposable income as well as those that can't afford it but do it anyway, but the list of people who spent money is much shorter, in part because they were screened by breeders in the first place rather than buying from a backyard.

The point was they are entitled to use whatever tools they feel are handy in reducing the chance the dog will come back / be abused / run away / etc etc.

Besides, aren't we talking about a high dollar dog to begin with here? Through a breed rescue, not a general neighborhood rescue? What, are breed rescues supposed to be the solution to the 'I'm too stingy to buy one' people? Good greif. Plenty of Labs and mixes at the county AC for much cheaper if you aren't wanting to drop $500 +/- for a particular breed.

Please show me where I said that someone that spends ANY amount on a dog will take of of it?

Do you really believe that someone who can't afford to take care of a dogs medical needs should own one? I don't know what planet you are from, but a $1500 vet bill is not exactly excessive these days. I know people that have taken second mortgages to pay vet bills. Seriously. Do I think you need to have $20,000 on henad to own a dog? No. But if you can't afford $500 for the initial purchase or fee, than you probably don't have the financial ability to provide proper vet care. Flea and heartworm provential are considered 'expensive' by many pet owners for crying out loud.

Just becaue someone has good intentions and treats the dog like a tiny diety doesn't make them a good owner either. Gawd I'm so sick of casual, never train, never work, just a pet, yard full of poop / crap in other peoples yards - go to the offleash park and stand around chatting while their dog growls, mounts, engages in dangerous behavior "Gee how cute" - get a dog cuz it's 'cute' and never really do anything WITH it 'pet owners' I'm ready to vomit. And yes, that includes a whole laundry list of people with disposable income as well as those that can't afford it but do it anyway, but the list of people who spent money is much shorter, in part because they were screened by breeders in the first place rather than buying from a backyard.

The point was they are entitled to use whatever tools they feel are handy in reducing the chance the dog will come back / be abused / run away / etc etc.

Besides, aren't we talking about a high dollar dog to begin with here? Through a breed rescue, not a general neighborhood rescue? What, are breed rescues supposed to be the solution to the 'I'm too stingy to buy one' people? Good greif. Plenty of Labs and mixes at the county AC for much cheaper if you aren't wanting to drop $500 +/- for a particular breed.

Clam down. :killingme

I am WELL aware of the expense of caring for a pet, especially a sick one.

I am, and I still don't agree that if you can't afford to pay $500 for a dog it means you aren't a good pet owner. :shrug:

Wow, the two of you (you and Cattitude) can obviously read what I wrote, but I had no idea you could read what I didn't write! Please show me where I made that statement. Me thinks you read into things a bit, and draw incorrect conclusions. Can't afford and not willing, two different things. Shouldn't own because you can't afford and not a good pet owner, two different things. Sheesh.

Price is a tool. The rescue can make exceptions as it sees fit. They are entitled to charge anything they want to recoup their expenses. What part of this is so hard to understand?? :banghead:

Clam down. :killingme

I am WELL aware of the expense of caring for a pet, especially a sick one.


Steamed or fried?

Sorry, but the subject is something I am exceedingly passionate about. I've never worked for a 'rescue', but have done my share of rescuing...

Price is a tool. The rescue can make exceptions as it sees fit. They are entitled to charge anything they want to recoup their expenses. What part of this is so hard to understand?? :banghead:


Really?

Steamed or fried?

Sorry, but the subject is something I am exceedingly passionate about. I've never worked for a 'rescue', but have done my share of rescuing...

You need to take a breath..

"clam" is an expression on here ....you know, humor.

I've been active with rescue organizations for about 30 years.

I don't know what planet you are from,

:killingme

:killingme

I'm sure you know, please tell him. :lol:

I passed on the website information to my brother. The dogs on the rescue website are so stinking cute!!

I passed on the website information to my brother. The dogs on the rescue website are so stinking cute!!

I love the Frenchies! The breeder I know said they are a lot like Boxers with their comical personalities but their energy level is a bit lower.

:killingme

:yeahthat: All you can do with that is laugh hysterically...:killingme

I love the Frenchies! The breeder I know said they are a lot like Boxers with their comical personalities but their energy level is a bit lower.

Oh that's a good breed for the never really do anything WITH it 'pet owners'.

You need to take a breath..

"clam" is an expression on here ....you know, humor.

I've been active with rescue organizations for about 30 years.

Steamed clams? Fried clams? HAHAHA. sorry...

No I'm good. I've been pulling dogs out of bad situations for about 15 myself... retraining and behavior mod on the badly abused... taking those that look hopelessly lost into my home... the worst was down in FL, saw it every day. The dog I have now lived the first two years of his life literally inside a crate, laying on layers of blankets and waste. Came to me virtually hairless, very physically scarred, and very messed up in the head. Like I said I've never worked for a specific rescue, but rather picked out the worst of the bunch and done what I can for them. It's stomache turning. The amount of work I put in personally... heck $15K wouldn't pay for the time and effort just for Harley.

I'm at a loss to understand why you guys think that's too much money for a rescue to charge, particularly a breed specific rescue. I would think you'd be behind them on it. It isn't excessive or uncommon all things considered, I've seen other breed rescues charging similar amounts. Sure, a local all / mixed breed organization really can't go that high, particularly with the mixed breeds, but that's no reason for these guys not to. I'm hoping it's not a simple matter of "we can't so they shouldn't", that would just be silly.

I haven't gotten to meet a frenchie yet but my SO thinks they are great.

Please show me where I said that someone that spends ANY amount on a dog will take of of it?

Do you really believe that someone who can't afford to take care of a dogs medical needs should own one? I don't know what planet you are from, but a $1500 vet bill is not exactly excessive these days. I know people that have taken second mortgages to pay vet bills. Seriously. Do I think you need to have $20,000 on henad to own a dog? No. But if you can't afford $500 for the initial purchase or fee, than you probably don't have the financial ability to provide proper vet care. Flea and heartworm provential are considered 'expensive' by many pet owners for crying out loud.


There are plenty of wonderful pet owners who can't afford to pay thousands of dollars if their pet gets sick. I love my dogs like they were children, but honestly I don't know if I could afford to pay thousands of dollars if one of them got sick. That doesn't make me a bad pet owner. It's up to the individual to decide what they can/should afford to pay for in a case like that. There's no rule saying you have to pay thousands of dollars to be a good pet owner. If someone can't afford it, they can't afford it. I'm sure most people don't have an emergency fund for their pets incase something goes wrong. That doesn't make them bad pet owners. Some people CAN afford to pay vet bills and don't CHOOSE to spend that much on the purchase price of a dog. I'm sorry, but a more expensive dog is not guaranteed to be a better/healthier dog.


Just becaue someone has good intentions and treats the dog like a tiny diety doesn't make them a good owner either. Gawd I'm so sick of casual, never train, never work, just a pet, yard full of poop / crap in other peoples yards - go to the offleash park and stand around chatting while their dog growls, mounts, engages in dangerous behavior "Gee how cute" - get a dog cuz it's 'cute' and never really do anything WITH it 'pet owners' I'm ready to vomit. And yes, that includes a whole laundry list of people with disposable income as well as those that can't afford it but do it anyway, but the list of people who spent money is much shorter, in part because they were screened by breeders in the first place rather than buying from a backyard.

You seem to be one of those holier-than-thou dog owners that thinks just because someone has a dog as a pet (oh the horror :drama:), they don't know as much as you do or aren't as good of a pet owner as you. :lol: Not everybody needs or wants a "working dog".

The point was they are entitled to use whatever tools they feel are handy in reducing the chance the dog will come back / be abused / run away / etc etc.

Sure they're entitled to it. Just like I'm entitled to disagree with it. And like Catt said before, plenty of people plop down big bucks for a dog and end up treating them like dirt, so I'm not sure how charging more for a dog ensures it a good home.


Besides, aren't we talking about a high dollar dog to begin with here? Through a breed rescue, not a general neighborhood rescue? What, are breed rescues supposed to be the solution to the 'I'm too stingy to buy one' people? Good greif. Plenty of Labs and mixes at the county AC for much cheaper if you aren't wanting to drop $500 +/- for a particular breed.

So what if it's a high dollar breed? Aren't rescue groups non-profit? I'm sorry, but I don't see why a rescue feels the need to charge more for dogs under a year just because they're in demand. And I didn't know rescues should charge more for popular dogs just like many breeders do.

And just because one doesn't want to pay $600 for a "rescue" Frenchie doesn't make them stingy, perhaps they'd rather save the money and get a dog from a rescue that's not being unethical. If other rescues can adopt out other purebred dogs for $200-$400, I don't see why Frenchies are different.

I'm at a loss to understand why you guys think that's too much money for a rescue to charge, particularly a breed specific rescue. I would think you'd be behind them on it. It isn't excessive or uncommon all things considered, I've seen other breed rescues charging similar amounts. Sure, a local all / mixed breed organization really can't go that high, particularly with the mixed breeds, but that's no reason for these guys not to. I'm hoping it's not a simple matter of "we can't so they shouldn't", that would just be silly.

*My* issue is that the rescue charged higher fees for younger dogs. Usually rescue groups charge a certain amount for a dog that covers the rescue's expenses. I'm very familiar with how rescues work. I know that many times a certain dog will have higher vet bills (because of health issues) and sometimes a rescue will lose money with that certain animal. I also know that sometimes dogs don't cost as much to rescue, so they make a little money. That's just the way it works. Not all dogs are the same, so they don't all cost the rescue the same amount of money.

Most rescue groups figure out how much (on average) each dog costs, and they set their prices accordingly. I can't imagine them setting their prices so low that they lose money on every dog over the age of 1, so they have to jack up those fees for dogs under 1 to cover everything.

There are plenty of wonderful pet owners who can't afford to pay thousands of dollars if their pet gets sick. I love my dogs like they were children, but honestly I don't know if I could afford to pay thousands of dollars if one of them got sick. That doesn't make me a bad pet owner. It's up to the individual to decide what they can/should afford to pay for in a case like that. There's no rule saying you have to pay thousands of dollars to be a good pet owner. If someone can't afford it, they can't afford it. I'm sure most people don't have an emergency fund for their pets incase something goes wrong. That doesn't make them bad pet owners. Some people CAN afford to pay vet bills and don't CHOOSE to spend that much on the purchase price of a dog. I'm sorry, but a more expensive dog is not guaranteed to be a better/healthier dog.


Again, I never said money makes a good pet owner. Want me to say that again? I never said money makes a good pet owner. I don't think it either. I do think money can help one care for a pet, but no, it does not make a good pet owner. One more time for giggles?


You seem to be one of those holier-than-thou dog owners that thinks just because someone has a dog as a pet (oh the horror :drama:), they don't know as much as you do or aren't as good of a pet owner as you. :lol: Not everybody needs or wants a "working dog".


You seem to read into a lot and draw conclusions based on little to no information. What's your point? What, 2% of US dog owners ever engage in any formal training? That's sad no matter how you slice it. Regardless, I'm simply talking about going for walks and training basic, every day OB to control behavior. If that makes me 'holier than thou' so be it. Most off leash parks have big signs that say "Dogs must be under verbal control." How many people can actually excersize verbal control over their dogs? It should be expected. I see it as being responsible. A dog is a living thing and deserves respect and your time. It deserves to live a safe life, not get run over or starve to death because it bolted out the door and nobody ever taught it a simple and reliable recall or down command. If it happens to be a working quality dog, than it should work, it will be healthier and happier. If it is a toy breed, not so much. Regardless of breed, it does not deserve to be relegated to the status of yard ornament or throw pillow and basically left out of the owners life.


Sure they're entitled to it. Just like I'm entitled to disagree with it. And like Catt said before, plenty of people plop down big bucks for a dog and end up treating them like dirt, so I'm not sure how charging more for a dog ensures it a good home.


So argue with them. I was simply to trying to explain why and provide a reason for it. Again, who said people who plop down big bucks ARE always good dog owners? Not me!!


So what if it's a high dollar breed? Aren't rescue groups non-profit? I'm sorry, but I don't see why a rescue feels the need to charge more for dogs under a year just because they're in demand. And I didn't know rescues should charge more for popular dogs just like many breeders do.


Yeah. Non-profit. That doesn't mean they need to do everything for free or on the cheap. As you know, it costs money to operate. So what difference does it make whether they rely on donations and fundraising, or sponsorships, or adoption fees, or how they get the money to stay in operation? Bills must be paid. Maybe the rescue purchased 6 acres of land and built a facility as some have done, and this is how they pay for it. I just think that if they can charge that much, they should. Of course, I also agree that as a non-profit it should all go to care for the dogs. If they become prosperous as a result, great for the dogs they take in! I'm pretty sure you'd support donating to rescue... If Bill Gates offered your local rescue $1M would you tell them to turn it down? What's the difference how they get their funds?


And just because one doesn't want to pay $600 for a "rescue" Frenchie doesn't make them stingy, perhaps they'd rather save the money and get a dog from a rescue that's not being unethical. If other rescues can adopt out other purebred dogs for $200-$400, I don't see why Frenchies are different.

Unethical? Now who is holier-than-thou? How are they unethical? Because they don't adhere to your sensibilities? That's a peach. Have you looked at their site? Not all the dogs are $500. Some are considerably less. If they have a young dog there for 6 months rehabbing it, and have someone train it for basic OB, have it given immunizations and other standard vet care, I'd say $500 is cheap considering what they've put into the dog.

Again, I never said money makes a good pet owner. Want me to say that again? I never said money makes a good pet owner. I don't think it either. I do think money can help one care for a pet, but no, it does not make a good pet owner. One more time for giggles?


Yes please.


Look, I was just voicing my opinion. :shrug: You don't have to agree.

*My* issue is that the rescue charged higher fees for younger dogs. Usually rescue groups charge a certain amount for a dog that covers the rescue's expenses. I'm very familiar with how rescues work. I know that many times a certain dog will have higher vet bills (because of health issues) and sometimes a rescue will lose money with that certain animal. I also know that sometimes dogs don't cost as much to rescue, so they make a little money. That's just the way it works. Not all dogs are the same, so they don't all cost the rescue the same amount of money.

Most rescue groups figure out how much (on average) each dog costs, and they set their prices accordingly. I can't imagine them setting their prices so low that they lose money on every dog over the age of 1, so they have to jack up those fees for dogs under 1 to cover everything.

Again that's not unusual to me. I do see your point here, but it's not abnormal for breed rescues to do this. Usually the young dogs are in excessive demand and the Adult / older dogs progressively less, as you no doubt know. So they level the playing field a bit. I'm willing to bet they'd also deal with someone who had a great doggy background but couldn't quite cough up the whole sum, as long as they didn't have a waiting list already which many breed rescues do for their pups.

Years ago I did some fostering for a Dobe rescue, and they charged more for the young ones, and they had a waiting list for little guys a mile long. Yet, many of the adult dogs stuck around for quite some time. Heck, Dobe rescue even charges more for cropped/docked dogs, even though they don't pay for it, because they are far easier to adopt than the natural ears and tails dogs.

It's just they way they do it, and it works. I'd hardly call it unethical.

Yes please.


Look, I was just voicing my opinion. :shrug: You don't have to agree.


Oh don't tempt me, LOL.

It's OK. Really! I thought you were putting words in myy mouth. Fingers. Keyboard. Whatever. :huggy:

Obviously we are both deeply passionate about the topic. We might have differing ideas and opinions but both want the same end results. I'm pretty sure if you stuck us in the same room we'd yak and yak and yak. :buddies:

Obviously we are both deeply passionate about the topic. We might have differing ideas and opinions but both want the same end results. I'm pretty sure if you stuck us in the same room we'd yak and yak and yak. :buddies:

:lol: I have been known to talk a lot. :whistle:

:cheers:

Clam down. :killingme

I am WELL aware of the expense of caring for a pet, especially a sick one.

Amen!:howdy: