Motorcycle safety meetings have been conducted twice in the last 1 1/2 months. Various ideas, suggestions, and efforts are being put together to raise awareness, address personal responsibility, and engineering concerns.

One issue of concern, expressed by all, was the the discussion of motorcycles to students in Driver's Ed.

Those in attendance are trying to develop a short curriculum to use in a couple local driver's ed classes to supplement the short mention of motorcycles.

It was decided that the limit needs to be 4-5 points:
Some suggestions were the following:

visibility

following too closely

distractions

understanding the rate and danger about the ability of a motorcycle to quickly stop or slow if someone pulls out in front of them or when a motorcyclists has to stop due to roadway conditions

The idea it to have specific quick points to address the decided issues.
This would be followed or preceded by a personal account by a motorcyclists willing to conduct this quick presentation.

Motorcyclists: Offer you ideas and suggestions for the 4-5 points, how to succinctly get these points out.

The next meeting is November 16 at the College of Southern Maryland, C building C216, 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. and open to all interested.

Please review the ideas and start offering suggestions on this link if possible.

For additional information please contact Jackie Beckman at 301-475-4200 ext 1850 or 443-532-0783

Motorcycle safety meetings have been conducted twice in the last 1 1/2 months. Various ideas, suggestions, and efforts are being put together to raise awareness, address personal responsibility, and engineering concerns.

One issue of concern, expressed by all, was the the discussion of motorcycles to students in Driver's Ed.

Those in attendance are trying to develop a short curriculum to use in a couple local driver's ed classes to supplement the short mention of motorcycles.

It was decided that the limit needs to be 4-5 points:
Some suggestions were the following:

visibility

following too closely

distractions

understanding the rate and danger about the ability of a motorcycle to quickly stop or slow if someone pulls out in front of them or when a motorcyclists has to stop due to roadway conditions

The idea it to have specific quick points to address the decided issues.
This would be followed or preceded by a personal account by a motorcyclists willing to conduct this quick presentation.

Motorcyclists: Offer you ideas and suggestions for the 4-5 points, how to succinctly get these points out.

The next meeting is November 16 at the College of Southern Maryland, C building C216, 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. and open to all interested.

Please review the ideas and start offering suggestions on this link if possible.

For additional information please contact Jackie Beckman at 301-475-4200 ext 1850 or 443-532-0783

Suggestion to add: Proper riding attire

Shy, what he's asking for is ways to introduce motorcycle awareness to students in Drivers Education classes, not suggestions for motorcyclists themselves, although that is another part of the discussion we have.

The idea is that one of the biggest dangers to riders is other vehicles, the "moving blind spot theory". Its been supposed for years that if you could make an aircraft just like a motorcycle in traffic, you would have achieved perfect stealth.

So, what folks discussed was how we teach new drivers to be aware of bikes. There is a part of the curiculumn that does talk about this, but it doesnt appear to work very well, seeing as "I didnt see the motorcycle" is still one of the most common epitaths a biker gets. So, try and get drivers young, before their habits fossilize, and teach them about how not to run over motorcycles.

How do we do that? What way is best to get them thinking and looking, and most importantly, not driving over them, or in front of them?

Not too sure how you would do this, but the only way I learned to look out for bikes was driving one. You get the **** scared out of you enough times by flaky four wheelers, you start watching everything more carefully.
I think this translates to safer drivers in general because everybody starts driving more alertly.
Edit:
Just watched my boys playing on their computers gave me an idea:
How about a video game called "Driving Route 235". Have the little speedsters drive their bike through LP City while avoiding idiots (can't remember the Corvette's plates; something about six figures) trying to kill them.
:popcorn:

Not too sure how you would do this, but the only way I learned to look out for bikes was driving one. You get the **** scared out of you enough times by flaky four wheelers, you start watching everything more carefully.
I think this translates to safer drivers in general because everybody starts driving more alertly.
Edit:
Just watched my boys playing on their computers gave me an idea:
How about a video game called "Driving Route 235". Have the little speedsters drive their bike through LP City while avoiding idiots (can't remember the Corvette's plates; something about six figures) trying to kill them.
:popcorn:

There's another one just as bad. Red 'vette with flames and a skull on the front. Blew a red light last week and was flying up 235 yesterday in the right turn lane. Some one changed lanes and he about lost it.

Not too sure how you would do this, but the only way I learned to look out for bikes was driving one.

If all new drivers had to ride a bike for the first six months...problem solved!

Shy, what he's asking for is ways to introduce motorcycle awareness to students in Drivers Education classes, not suggestions for motorcyclists themselves, although that is another part of the discussion we have.

:whack: Oopsies!

I don't think that you can stress paying attention enough.

I don't think that you can stress paying attention enough.A biker can be easy to miss even when the car driver is paying attention, if the biker is in the other's blind spot. I have spot mirrors on my truck, and I use them constantly. But there have been a few instances over the past couple months where I have driven other vehicles without the spot mirrors, and I have quickly realized how much I don't see without them.

Proper checking before changing lanes is part of any course, but special attention should be given to bikers because they are smaller, quicker and may not even be audible when the kid in the car has the stereo cranked.

Hello All - I bookmarked a web page with some good video PSAs focusing on Driver Education. They are pretty well done - and done in a way that would appeal to a younger audience. Take a look and post your impressions!

LOOK: Look, Learn, Live (http://www.looklearnlive.org/look/psas.htm)

These are from Texas' Look.Learn.Live. program.

Pete

Peter Moe
Maryland Highway Safety Office
pmoe@sha.state.md.us

Folks - here's another link to follow. Shows real crash scenes.

CHP - Motorcycle Safety - Informational Video (http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/motorcycle_v.html)

Folks - here's another link to follow. Shows real crash scenes.

CHP - Motorcycle Safety - Informational Video (http://www.chp.ca.gov/html/motorcycle_v.html)

Just wanted to remind those interested...November 16, 6-8 p.m., College of Southern Maryland, Leonardtown Campus, Building C, room c216
Motorcycle safety meeting. Please RSVP 301-475-4200x1850

i've been an MSF ridercoach for over 10 years, and during that time i've had numerous people offer these gruesome videos to me. i don't believe there's anything to be gained by showing them. i believe in teaching people how to avoid these situations.
that is just my opinion.
i'll be at the next m/c safety meeting. sorry i missed the other 2.

Motorcycle safety meetings have been conducted twice in the last 1 1/2 months. Various ideas, suggestions, and efforts are being put together to raise awareness, address personal responsibility, and engineering concerns.

One issue of concern, expressed by all, was the the discussion of motorcycles to students in Driver's Ed.

Those in attendance are trying to develop a short curriculum to use in a couple local driver's ed classes to supplement the short mention of motorcycles.

It was decided that the limit needs to be 4-5 points:
Some suggestions were the following:

visibility

following too closely

distractions

understanding the rate and danger about the ability of a motorcycle to quickly stop or slow if someone pulls out in front of them or when a motorcyclists has to stop due to roadway conditions

The idea it to have specific quick points to address the decided issues.
This would be followed or preceded by a personal account by a motorcyclists willing to conduct this quick presentation.

Motorcyclists: Offer you ideas and suggestions for the 4-5 points, how to succinctly get these points out.

The next meeting is November 16 at the College of Southern Maryland, C building C216, 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. and open to all interested.

Please review the ideas and start offering suggestions on this link if possible.

For additional information please contact Jackie Beckman at 301-475-4200 ext 1850 or 443-532-0783

Most young people that drive cars have never ridin a motorcycle and probably never will. They need to see things from a motorcycle point of view, like the point above in bold. Drivers have a very bad habit of pulling out in front of others thinking they will slam brakes for them. A motorcycle just can't do that, but then we sometimes have other escape routes a car doesn't. Had one on a cell phone pull out in front of me and I had to go around her right side, off the road in order to keep from hitting her. And she gave me the finger for it. Gotta love them cell phones.

Most young people that drive cars have never ridin a motorcycle and probably never will. They need to see things from a motorcycle point of view, like the point above in bold. Drivers have a very bad habit of pulling out in front of others thinking they will slam brakes for them. A motorcycle just can't do that, but then we sometimes have other escape routes a car doesn't. Had one on a cell phone pull out in front of me and I had to go around her right side, off the road in order to keep from hitting her. And she gave me the finger for it. Gotta love them cell phones.

Meeting reminder

Reminder, Meeting Motorcycle Safety, Monday November 16, 6 p.m. to 8 p.m. College of Southern Maryland, Leonardtown Campus, C Building, Room C216

POINT:

-I believe this is from the "Hurt Report": The number one accident with a motorcycle where a car driver was at fault occured when a car turned left in front of a motorcylist where the motorcyclist had the right-of-way.

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