Has anyone else noticed that there are a lot of drivers here that do not seem to understand the concept of merging into traffic? For instance at the corner of Rte 4 and 235, there always seems to be someone sitting at the right turn and not merging into traffic.

Has anyone else noticed that there are a lot of drivers here that do not seem to understand the concept of merging into traffic? For instance at the corner of Rte 4 and 235, there always seems to be someone sitting at the right turn and not merging into traffic.

Oh man I was coming out of walmart last night..taking a right onto 235..and some van was sitting there....there is about a MILE of merge lane...USE IT. people behind me were honking and everything..the idiot had no clue..sat there until there were NO cars in sight...and then drove up the merge lane.I was so annoyed.

Has anyone else noticed that there are a lot of drivers here that do not seem to understand the concept of merging into traffic? For instance at the corner of Rte 4 and 235, there always seems to be someone sitting at the right turn and not merging into traffic.

Does the sign say YIELD?

Has anyone else noticed that there are a lot of drivers here that do not seem to understand the concept of merging into traffic? For instance at the corner of Rte 4 and 235, there always seems to be someone sitting at the right turn and not merging into traffic.

The problem with that particular spot is that when you come off of route 4 you are supposed to yield to oncoming traffic and those coming straight thru the light wanting to turn into Wawa's are going faster than you and will overtake that lane before you can fully take it thus leading to boom, bang, whamo in the blink of an eye. I will only take that lane if I see a gap in the oncoming traffic that will allow me to fully enter the lane before the next oncoming car has time to fill the gap. That way if he/she hits me I will be the care completely in the lane rather than two cars each being partially in the lane and my car being the one that was supposed to yield. Make sense?

The problem with that particular spot is that when you come off of route 4 you are supposed to yield to oncoming traffic and those coming straight thru the light wanting to turn into Wawa's are going faster than you and will overtake that lane before you can fully take it thus leading to boom, bang, whamo in the blink of an eye. I will only take that lane if I see a gap in the oncoming traffic that will allow me to fully enter the lane before the next oncoming car has time to fill the gap. That way if he/she hits me I will be the care completely in the lane rather than two cars each being partially in the lane and my car being the one that was supposed to yield. Make sense?

Yes because the signs say yield and that's a turning lane not a merge lane. Then again, you have people use the turning lane for a travel lane...Take your chances :yay:

Does the sign say YIELD?

Yes it says yield; not stop.

Can't always just merge into traffic bro, some people speed up and just don't let you. Also isn't there a yield sign at that area? I Don't frequent it very often but I thought there was.

Yes you have to watch out for people coming over to go into wawa..but I have never had one bit of trouble looking..and then getting in to the lane to merge into traffic...I have never held anyone up..and have managed to do it safely hundreds of times..I see no reason for someone to sit there with their thumb up their ass.

Yes it says yield; not stop.

I had to laugh at this one. It made me think of something my grandfather used to say-"The sign says yield, not surrender!"

Yes you have to watch out for people coming over to go into wawa..but I have never had one bit of trouble looking..and then getting in to the lane to merge into traffic...I have never held anyone up..and have managed to do it safely hundreds of times..I see no reason for someone to sit there with their thumb up their ass.

GFY! :clap:

Can't always just merge into traffic bro, some people speed up and just don't let you. Also isn't there a yield sign at in that area? I Don't frequent it very often but I thought there was.


Right but that's the point. Yield is not the same as stop. When "yielding" sometimes you have to stop for a few seconds, but I've observed peole who sit and then don't even try to get over. You have a good half mile of merge lane in order to get over. Of course, you do have to be heads up for traffic coming from your left, but it isn't that difficult.

Right but that's the point. Yield is not the same as stop. When "yielding" sometimes you have to stop for a few seconds, but I've observed peole who sit and then don't even try to get over. You have a good half mile of merge lane in order to get over. Of course, you do have to be heads up for traffic coming from your left, but it isn't that difficult.

There is no merge lane at Yield signs.

Has anyone else noticed that there are a lot of drivers here that do not seem to understand the concept of merging into traffic? For instance at the corner of Rte 4 and 235, there always seems to be someone sitting at the right turn and not merging into traffic.

Something you might not understand, IT"S NOT A MEGE LANE!!!!!!!
It's a right hand turn lane, it's designed so cars can pull off of the main road (235) and decelerate to make a RIGHT TURN.

The problem is the morons use it for everything but. It's an express lane, a merge lane but for vehicles trying to get off 235, well they just slow down or stop in the right most travel lane defeating the purpose of the "Right Hand Tunr Lane".

but for vehicles trying to get off 235, well they just slow down or stop in the right most travel lane defeating the purpose of the "Right Hand Tunr Lane".

They have to slow down before getting into the turn lane because of the idgits coming off of route 4 who are not yeilding to oncoming traffic by trying to make the turn lane a merging lane. :ohwell:

people in SOMD can't drive. Simple as that. :biggrin:

And yet you have to get onto that lane to merge...making it ..a merge lane. There is no other way to get safely into traffic. So calling it a right turn lane doesn't change what its purpose is. If it were intended to only be used by right turning drivers..it would start at the wawa entrance..and there would be a hovercraft waiting to take you into traffic. It is intended to allow safe merging into traffic. Which can easily and simply be done without waiting untill there are no cars in a ten mile radius and pissing off everyone behind you.

Right but that's the point. Yield is not the same as stop. When "yielding" sometimes you have to stop for a few seconds, but I've observed peole who sit and then don't even try to get over. You have a good half mile of merge lane in order to get over. Of course, you do have to be heads up for traffic coming from your left, but it isn't that difficult.

Yeah, but everytime I get annoyed at someone who has had multiple opportunities to pull out, I pull up even with them and look over and it turns a white haired old lady with a death grip on the steering wheel. Give 'em a break, they've earned it.

And yet you have to get onto that lane to merge...making it ..a merge lane. There is no other way to get safely into traffic. So calling it a right turn lane doesn't change what its purpose is. If it were intended to only be used by right turning drivers..it would start at the wawa entrance..and there would be a hovercraft waiting to take you into traffic. It is intended to allow safe merging into traffic. Which can easily and simply be done without waiting untill there are no cars in a ten mile radius and pissing off everyone behind you.

No you don't. Maybe you need to chill, not be in such a hurry and drive smarter. :yay:

Yeah, but everytime I get annoyed at someone who has had multiple opportunities to pull out, I pull up even with them and look over and it turns a white haired old lady with a death grip on the steering wheel. Give 'em a break, they've earned it.

Older than you? :lmao:


:huggy:

Didn't we just have this conversation not too long ago?

No you don't. Maybe you need to chill, not be in such a hurry and drive smarter. :yay:

And yet here I am..alive and well..and my car in one piece. However did I manage.:jameo:

Didn't we just have this conversation not too long ago?

yep. I guess we're airing a re-run. :yawn:

Yeah, but everytime I get annoyed at someone who has had multiple opportunities to pull out, I pull up even with them and look over and it turns a white haired old lady with a death grip on the steering wheel. Give 'em a break, they've earned it. And if it's someone like that I would be inclined to be more compassionate. It could be an old lady who has no other way to get her medicine or groceries. But most of the time it's not.

Older than you? :lmao:


:huggy:

Hey, I had to show ID to get into the senior center the other day, I'll have you know!:razz:

No you don't. Maybe you need to chill, not be in such a hurry and drive smarter. :yay: Maybe you need to brush up on your basic driving skills so merging into traffic won't be such a challenge!

Maybe you need to brush up on your basic driving skills so merging into traffic won't be such a challange!
And maybe you should realize if she doesn't drive with caution and has to slam on the brakes it could cause her to slide off the phone book and she won't be able to see over the steering wheel and then you'll be stuck behind her for hours waiting on them to clean up the accident mess... maybe that...:mad:

Maybe you need to brush up on your basic driving skills so merging into traffic won't be such a challenge!

She didn't quote you. :confused:

Maybe you need to brush up on your basic driving skills so merging into traffic won't be such a challenge!

I'm not the one with a problem :lol:

And yet you have to get onto that lane to merge...making it ..a merge lane. There is no other way to get safely into traffic. So calling it a right turn lane doesn't change what its purpose is. If it were intended to only be used by right turning drivers..it would start at the wawa entrance..and there would be a hovercraft waiting to take you into traffic. It is intended to allow safe merging into traffic. Which can easily and simply be done without waiting untill there are no cars in a ten mile radius and pissing off everyone behind you.
:yeahthat:

Exactly what they are for. :yay:

Is everyone out there in such a hurry that you can't wait two minutes (at the most, because the light will have changed by then) to get to where you need to go ALIVE???? I've been teaching my kids that I'd rather they wait a minute or two (or however long it takes) until they feel comfortable. I'd rather sit there for two minutes rather than be laid up in the hospital for two months or better yet, forever.

But not only do you have to wait for the people turning into Wawa, after that, I would estimate that at least half of the people turning from Northbound 235 do a ub and enter into the Wawa as well.

Safety makes sense. Take a pill and chill. Bring a book along next time if you can't give up four minutes of your life.

And yet you have to get onto that lane to merge...making it ..a merge lane. There is no other way to get safely into traffic. So calling it a right turn lane doesn't change what its purpose is. If it were intended to only be used by right turning drivers..it would start at the wawa entrance..and there would be a hovercraft waiting to take you into traffic. It is intended to allow safe merging into traffic. Which can easily and simply be done without waiting untill there are no cars in a ten mile radius and pissing off everyone behind you.

You miss the point, traffic on 235 has the right of way, it's not an acceleration lane, you are not suppose to travel 100, 200 300 yards or until the next traffic light.

It's not an on ramp. If there was no right turn lane, would you just swing out onto 235?

Yes it says yield; not stop.Guess what, if you have to yield to on-coming traffic, you're going to have to stop. Duh. It's like those idiots trying to get on Rt. 4 at the base of the Solomons side of the bridge. They have a yield sign and they think it gives them the right to pull out in front of the traffic and everyone has to slam on their brakes for them. Stupid drivers.

What about when you are U-turning at the light at St. Andrews/235 to go from going north to going south on 235, and the people turning right don't yield? Do they think that the lights don't matter?

I have right of way making my U turn on a green light over the person turning into the yield lane.

If people would use thier freaking turn signals, the majority of these issues would be non factor.

I dont care if there is a yield sign or not. When I come down ChancellorsRun and turn right on 235, I wait. Honk all you want, but if the dumbasses would use thier signals, we would know who is planning to cut a hard right into Sheetz or not. Im not risking my vehicle or its passengers, because some non driving POS didnt signal his/her intent and drove thier car into mine.

Has anyone else noticed that there are a lot of drivers here that do not seem to understand the concept of merging into traffic? For instance at the corner of Rte 4 and 235, there always seems to be someone sitting at the right turn and not merging into traffic.

If you turn at the 4/235 and your next turn will be left onto the base, you have to wait for the traffic to clear so you can tun into the left most southbound lane.
:nono: don't you know how to drive here

Oh man I was coming out of walmart last night..taking a right onto 235..and some van was sitting there....there is about a MILE of merge lane...USE IT. people behind me were honking and everything..the idiot had no clue..sat there until there were NO cars in sight...and then drove up the merge lane.I was so annoyed.
Sounds like PA drivers. PA drivers seem to be the worst. They drive slow in the left lane, they stop at a merge, run stop signs, never use turn signals. I thought you were to always turn your lights on in the rain or fog. I do not get it. Go back to PA.

Yes you have to watch out for people coming over to go into wawa..but I have never had one bit of trouble looking..and then getting in to the lane to merge into traffic...I have never held anyone up..and have managed to do it safely hundreds of times..I see no reason for someone to sit there with their thumb up their ass.


I live off St. Andrew's and I hate people that want to sit there every morning. If people are so scared to drive into traffic then I don't want them on the road with me! Like you mentioned - I have done it hundred of times without ever having a "close call." Just pay damn attention to your surroundings people. Pretty simple.

I live off St. Andrew's and I hate people that want to sit there every morning. If people are so scared to drive into traffic then I don't want them on the road with me! Like you mentioned - I have done it hundred of times without ever having a "close call." Just pay damn attention to your surroundings people. Pretty simple.

IT'S NOT A MERGE or ACCELERATION LANE!!!!
and the people who were trying to get over into Wa Wa prbably thanked you

What I find amusing is the people who think it's an acceleration lane get pissed when someone actually makes a right hand turn into one of hte 10000 driveways. I've seen more then one rear ender because the "merger" was speeding up while the turner was slowing down.

IT'S NOT A MERGE or ACCELERATION LANE!!!!
and the people who were trying to get over into Wa Wa prbably thanked you

What I find amusing is the people who think it's an acceleration lane get pissed when someone actually makes a right hand turn into one of hte 10000 driveways. I've seen more then one rear ender because the "merger" was speeding up while the turner was slowing down.


So - I can't use that lane as a merging or accelration lane? How in the heck do you suppose I make it onto 235 then coming off St. Andrew's???

Is everyone out there in such a hurry that you can't wait two minutes (at the most, because the light will have changed by then) to get to where you need to go ALIVE???? I've been teaching my kids that I'd rather they wait a minute or two (or however long it takes) until they feel comfortable. I'd rather sit there for two minutes rather than be laid up in the hospital for two months or better yet, forever.

But not only do you have to wait for the people turning into Wawa, after that, I would estimate that at least half of the people turning from Northbound 235 do a ub and enter into the Wawa as well.

Safety makes sense. Take a pill and chill. Bring a book along next time if you can't give up four minutes of your life.

:yay:

Hey, I had to show ID to get out of the senior center the other day, I'll have you know!:eyebrow:

It's OK buddy...:coffee:

Still wondering...if I cannot use that lane as MERGE or ACCELERATION LANE....how do I leave St. Andrew's Church Road and enter 235 Southbound??

Still wondering...if I cannot use that lane as MERGE or ACCELERATION LANE....how do I leave St. Andrew's Church Road and enter 235 Southbound??

You just close your eyes, stomp on the accelerator, and hope that you make it into the lane :lmao: That's what most people do anyway...

I think that the first part of that lane is a merge lane... but when you get up to the shops (verizon, that eye place, etc.) it becomes a turn lane.

Honestly, I don't think anyone really cares - as long as you get to where you are going and you don't hurt anyone, you are good to go :yay:

Still wondering...if I cannot use that lane as MERGE or ACCELERATION LANE....how do I leave St. Andrew's Church Road and enter 235 Southbound??

Next time check and see if there are broken lines, then solid in that lane.

So - I can't use that lane as a merging or accelration lane? How in the heck do you suppose I make it onto 235 then coming off St. Andrew's???
Stop and wait for a hole in traffic. :shrug:

Still wondering...if I cannot use that lane as MERGE or ACCELERATION LANE....how do I leave St. Andrew's Church Road and enter 235 Southbound??

the same way you would turn off onto rt 4, chancellors run, macaiurther or any other road - you yield until the right of way is clear, you don't keep moving.

On a highway the merge lane is designed for cars coming ON TO the highway, not slowing down to get off. Think of it this way, as you are trying to accelorate and match the speed of the travel lane, the car in front of you is slowing down to make a turn. Realize now that your focus is the traffic to your left and not the car in front of you.
With an on ramp, the you and the cars in front of you are all on the same page, trying to match the speed of the travel lane and merge left.
Again, the sign at the corner says yield, not merge.

Yes you have to watch out for people coming over to go into wawa..but I have never had one bit of trouble looking..and then getting in to the lane to merge into traffic...I have never held anyone up..and have managed to do it safely hundreds of times..I see no reason for someone to sit there with their thumb up their ass.

They have to sit there with their thumb up their ass (or other orifice) until traffic clears and they can immediately safely proceed across every lane into the inside lane which they then travel in all the way to the base! Wouldn't want them unable to get over and turn in at Gate 1, would we?! (Yes, I was stuck immediately behind this b#tch.)

the same way you would turn off onto rt 4, chancellors run, macaiurther or any other road - you yield until the right of way is clear, you don't keep moving.
Since you're legally required to turn right into the right most lane, how can that lane not be clear if the right most lane starts at the intersection?

What about when you are U-turning at the light at St. Andrews/235 to go from going north to going south on 235, and the people turning right don't yield? Do they think that the lights don't matter?

I have right of way making my U turn on a green light over the person turning into the yield lane.

If you're making a U-turn off 235 N onto 235 S there's no reason for you to ever enter the two outside (rightmost) lanes on 235 S, unless you happen to be driving a semi. You're not doing a "U-turn" you're turning left and cutting across lanes to get into WaWa. Go to another gas station! The county should never have permitted that type business (or perhaps any) in that location, and that's the root of the problems there.

Because you are supposed to yield to oncoming traffic, and if you want to stop until you are 100% sure you can merge without accident, you have a right to do so. It is wiser to completely stop and wait for a clearance instead of darting out in front of traffic and taking a chance. If people would take there time, there would be less accidents. As a matter of fact, there was an accident there a few weeks ago, at 4 and 235 north, and apparently the guy did not stop, he chanced it and got smashed.

Yes you have to watch out for people coming over to go into wawa..but I have never had one bit of trouble looking..and then getting in to the lane to merge into traffic...I have never held anyone up..and have managed to do it safely hundreds of times..I see no reason for someone to sit there with their thumb up their ass.

Better to stop for a second than to cause an accident. There are accidents everyday on 235, because people do not stop, they dart out in front of people, cut people off, etc.You people need to slow down and be more careful, you are not going anywhere except St. Mary's, and it is not that important to be careless when you drive.I would rather be behind someone who stops at a yield, than to be behind someone who darts out into traffic and causes an accident, blocking everyone from going anywhere for a while. Think.

Better to stop for a second than to cause an accident. There are accidents everyday on 235, because people do not stop, they dart out in front of people, cut people off, etc.You people need to slow down and be more careful, you are not going anywhere except St. Mary's, and it is not that important to be careless when you drive.I would rather be behind someone who stops at a yield, than to be behind someone who darts out into traffic and causes an accident, blocking everyone from going anywhere for a while. Think.



think? how about you READ. I would never fault someone for stopping to view traffic or if there are cars in their way, because umm if they hit someone im STUCK THERE LONGER.. If you had reading comprehension skills you would realize the beef is with the people who stop for no reason...and sit there..only so they can go across all four lanes..or because they are a mental midget. no one is advocating being careless. You check out the traffic..if the lane is clear..then you pull into the lane..then merge when it is safe. Its not hard. I highly recommend the STS bus to those so frightened of driving they cannot manage such a simple feat...no skill needed.

Stop and wait for a hole in traffic. :shrug:

Wait for how long, for life? Because that is how long it takes some times.

the same way you would turn off onto rt 4, chancellors run, macaiurther or any other road - you yield until the right of way is clear, you don't keep moving.

On a highway the merge lane is designed for cars coming ON TO the highway, not slowing down to get off. Think of it this way, as you are trying to accelorate and match the speed of the travel lane, the car in front of you is slowing down to make a turn. Realize now that your focus is the traffic to your left and not the car in front of you.
With an on ramp, the you and the cars in front of you are all on the same page, trying to match the speed of the travel lane and merge left.
Again, the sign at the corner says yield, not merge.
Hopefully if you are speeding up you are most likely next to the car that is making the turn and will get behind you, not in front. Which is how it always works for me when I hop in the turn lane to merge. It's always clear. Or the way it should work is for the ones to hop in the center lane and let the mergers over if possible. Not many do this even though they can. :shrug:

Wait for how long, for life? Because that is how long it takes some times.
The light stops traffic on a regular basis. Surely you can wait for that in the event that there is too much traffic for you to safely merge. :shrug:

The light stops traffic on a regular basis. Surely you can wait for that in the event that there is too much traffic for you to safely merge. :shrug:Yeah, after 10minutes it stops traffic. Surely holding up even more traffic coming out behind you isn't worth the wait. Also most likely to get horns blown at you. I doubt you sit and wait coming out of Wal-Mart or target or whichever shopping center it may be. Barely anyone waits, only people I see wait and hold everyone else up is usually those elderly folks.

Yeah, after 10minutes it stops traffic. Surely holding up even more traffic coming out behind you isn't worth the wait. Also most likely to get horns blown at you. I doubt you sit and wait coming out of Wal-Mart or target or whichever shopping center it may be. Barely anyone waits, only people I see wait and hold everyone else up is usually those elderly folks.

:howdy: I wait and I'm not old. I don't give a crap if someone blows a horn at me. Sometimes I wait just to piss people off. Plus, when people honk it messes up the makeup I'm putting on, so I just sit there until I get the mascara absolutely perfect. :dance:

The light stops traffic on a regular basis.There is no light in any of those lanes for a reason. If the county wanted people to use those traffic lights then they would put up a sign that states "no turn [read merge/accelerate] on red."

There is no light in any of those lanes for a reason. If the county wanted people to use those traffic lights then they would put up a sign that states "no turn [read merge/accelerate] on red."

You miss the point. The light provides an opportunity to turn safely when traffic is too heavy to merge safely otherwise...just like most other intersections throughout the country. "Right on red" doesn't mean that you have the right-of-way.

Yeah, after 10minutes it stops traffic. Surely holding up even more traffic coming out behind you isn't worth the wait. Also most likely to get horns blown at you. I doubt you sit and wait coming out of Wal-Mart or target or whichever shopping center it may be. Barely anyone waits, only people I see wait and hold everyone else up is usually those elderly folks.

10 minutes? You need to get your watch fixed/replaced. It seems to be running extremely slow.

10 minutes? You need to get your watch fixed/replaced. It seems to be running extremely slow.

Wow, you really are a on the slow side. That would be called exaggerating. :doh: :smack: It seems your brain is running a bit slower than my watch is. :lmao: I believe it's about time for your custom user title to be changed.

You miss the point. The light provides an opportunity to turn safely when traffic is too heavy to merge safely otherwise...just like most other intersections throughout the country. "Right on red" doesn't mean that you have the right-of-way.

:fixed: :yay:


:yay: Okay, I can definitely agree with that.

I doubt you sit and wait coming out of Wal-Mart or target or whichever shopping center it may be. Barely anyone waits, only people I see wait and hold everyone else up is usually those elderly folks.

The turn from Walmart onto southbound 235 does not have a yield sign or stop sign

Wow, you really are a on the slow side. That would be called exaggerating. :doh: :smack: It seems your brain is running a bit slower than my watch is. :lmao: I believe it's about time for your custom user title to be changed.

...says the man who didn't get the :sarcasm:

The turn from Walmart onto southbound 235 does not have a yield sign or stop sign

I never said it did, I was saying people still sit at those spots and don't go.

...says the man who didn't get the :sarcasm:
You're the one that never got it, don't try to act like you were joking. You just now realized how stupid it was to say it. :buttkick:

defitnaly

:confused:

:shrug:

:confused:


You meant what I know.

You're the one that never got it, don't try to act like you were joking. You just now realized how stupid it was to say it. :buttkick:

Yeah, because I really thought the problem was that your watch was broken. :rolleyes:


Oh, and since you're a :dork:, that was :sarcasm: as well.

think? how about you READ. I would never fault someone for stopping to view traffic or if there are cars in their way, because umm if they hit someone im STUCK THERE LONGER.. If you had reading comprehension skills you would realize the beef is with the people who stop for no reason...and sit there..only so they can go across all four lanes..or because they are a mental midget. no one is advocating being careless. You check out the traffic..if the lane is clear..then you pull into the lane..then merge when it is safe. Its not hard. I highly recommend the STS bus to those so frightened of driving they cannot manage such a simple feat...no skill needed.

Whatever, liberty tranny, take your time before you wreck your car!

Whatever, liberty tranny, take your time before you wreck your car!

:killingme You still didn't comprehend what she is saying... :dork:

Yeah, because I really thought the problem was that your watch was broken. :rolleyes:


Oh, and since you're a :dork:, that was :sarcasm: as well.I would rather be a :dork: than a low life :loser: :evil:
:lmao:

I don't get the sitting to turn onto 235 by wawa. That lane is pretty long. I know there have been times that I was turning right off of 235 onto 4 to go towards the bridge and depending on time of day, traffic, and just people being ass holes it is impossible to just merge. It is a yield too there and last week some idiot was behind me beeping and I couldn't go anywhere because there was a bunch of cars coming straight across and they were in both lanes. I'm usually driving with my 2 kids and I refuse to take my chances and just keep driving and merging hoping that some other driver decides to let me in. That lane is a turning lane anyway and it ends pretty much after the right turn so if someone was to keep going in that lane they'd have to stop anyway to try and get over either way someone is going to be mad. I'm from PA and PA drivers are notorious for not merging properly it is SO IRRITATING. Even on a highway they don't get it...