unusual. Might be a fine person, but I just have reservations about that whole, oh, I must really be a girl, thing. What else is he/she not clear on?

Amanda Simpson (http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2010/01/president-obama-names-transgender-appointee-to-commerce-department.html)

Barry just loves an administration packed with mixed nuts!!! :coffee:

bahaha the comments make me laugh... "her name is A-MAN-DUH"

I feel for people who were born with conflicting hormones, or ambigous genitalia, or incongruent "pieces"....They often have a hard time and MUST choose a gender to identify with..but I have to question the mental health of someone who does this without any sort of biological reason...I mean I wouldn't assume they have problems..but it makes me wanna look real close. But it seems pretty obvious to me that Obama is just picking people based on their "minority" status..

How confused Bill Clinton would be! ShouldI or shouldn't I? "It depends on how you define she!"

I mean I wouldn't assume they have problems..but it makes me wanna look real close.I would [assume]; I mean, assuming is often not a wise thing to do, but in a case such as this, I think we can safely say this person is a bit 'off'.

Also, this line from the heshe gets to me...as one of the first transgender presidential appointees to the federal government, I hope that I will soon be one of hundreds, and that this appointment opens future opportunities for many others.Typical liberal stupidity - hire me because I'm "special", not necessarily because I can do the job.

This person was hired because, believe it or not, they are qualified to do the job. They also happen to be a transgender or whatever you want to call it. The important part of this is that person can do the job and was given the opportunity to do and not rejected becaiuse he/she is "different."

That's not typical liberal stupidity--whatever that means. It's common sense.

I do understand we don't like people to be different. Get too many of them and look out for your way of life.

I would [assume]; I mean, assuming is often not a wise thing to do, but in a case such as this, I think we can safely say this person is a bit 'off'.

Also, this line from the heshe gets to me...Typical liberal stupidity - hire me because I'm "special", not necessarily because I can do the job.

Must have some qualifications, also a former test pilot.

A 2004 YWCA "Woman on the Move," Simpson recently served as Deputy Director in Advanced Technology Development at Raytheon Missile Systems in Tucson, Arizona.

Woman on yhe move made me chuckle.

At Raytheon, Simpson -- a former test pilot who had worked for the company for more than a generation -- transitioned from male to female and was instrumental in convincing the military contractor to add gender identity and expression to its equal employment opportunity policy.

And this, I suspect, is the agenda.

This person was hired because, believe it or not, they are qualified to do the job. They also happen to be a transgender or whatever you want to call it. The important part of this is that person can do the job and was given the opportunity to do and not rejected becaiuse he/she is "different."

That's not typical liberal stupidity--whatever that means. It's common sense.

I do understand we don't like people to be different. Get too many of them and look out for your way of life.

Oh come on. What are the qualifications for the position, what ever it is. Being a test pilot or director of technology? I'm sure she was the only one qualified.

Oops, technology director.

This person was hired because, believe it or not, they are qualified to do the job. They also happen to be a transgender or whatever you want to call it. The important part of this is that person can do the job and was given the opportunity to do and not rejected becaiuse he/she is "different."

That's not typical liberal stupidity--whatever that means. It's common sense.

I do understand we don't like people to be different. Get too many of them and look out for your way of life.

Comment from link!

It fits the current administration, pretending to be something they are not,
after all your operations (lies) you still are the same person, you just look like a woman, act like what you think a women acts like, but lacks woman instinct, because Mr. simpson is stil just a man who cut off his stuff, ouch,who did'nt get enough hugs as a little boy......:dye:

Why oh why can't they just say - hey I'm the new (whatever) here are my qualifications, and this is why I got hired. Doesn't matter if they're staight, gay, black white, asian christian, jew, muslim, hermaphrodite. Does it matter that it opens doors to thousands (really? that many?) of the same type. Who cares?

Christ in Heaven - can't anyone get a job because they're qualified for the job anymore? Where's the pride in getting hired because you fill some notch on the EEO bar?

I hope this person is truly qualified for the job and does it well. It'd be a first for the Obama administration.

Why oh why can't they just say - hey I'm the new (whatever) here are my qualifications, and this is why I got hired. Doesn't matter if they're staight, gay, black white, asian christian, jew, muslim, hermaphrodite. Does it matter that it opens doors to thousands (really? that many?) of the same type. Who cares?

Christ in Heaven - can't anyone get a job because they're qualified for the job anymore? Where's the pride in getting hired because you fill some notch on the EEO bar?

I hope this person is truly qualified for the job and does it well. It'd be a first for the Obama administration.

Looks like they might be. I doubt it's the reason though.

The important part of this is that person can do the job and was given the opportunity to do and not rejected becaiuse he/she is "different."

That's not typical liberal stupidity--whatever that means. It's common sense.But you have to prove that they - or someone else going for a similar position - were previously rejected. When they demand equality before they have been discriminated against it looks like they are creating the drama.

Typical liberal stupidity, as I thought was clear enough the first time, is not just considering people equally, but given preference to minorities because they are a minority, which is what I gleaned from his/her quote about being "one of hundreds". There is no way that's common sense; it's asinine and establishes new discrimination.



Must have some qualifications, also a former test pilot.I don't doubt that he/she has a good resumé. But if it's all about the qualifications, why is other thing being mentioned? If I were in that position, I would have said as much; instead, he/she played into the "more equal than you" bit. I'm sure you get that.

I don't doubt that he/she has a good resumé. But if it's all about the qualifications, why is other thing being mentioned? If I were in that position, I would have said as much; instead, he/she played into the "more equal than you" bit. I'm sure you get that.

Not sure he/she did use the EOE card, but I'm sure it's why they wanted the post. He/she is mentioning it because they are on the Director of the National Center for Transgender Equality's board of directors. It is it's agenda.

Not sure he/she did use the EOE cardI doubt he/she had to... I mean, they were hired by Obama's crew. He seeks these people out. Although upon reconsideration, I think we ought to be glad that at least he/she is not a known tax cheat or other criminal, so it's not all bad.

The Obama freak show strikes again!

The Obama freak show strikes again!

Charles Rangel is qualified to be Chairman of Ways and Means because he know how to cheat on his taxes. Tim Geithner is qualified to run Treasury because he cheated us out of $34,000 dollars. Kevin jennings is qualified to teach fisting so he gets the school safety czar job. Janet Napolitano is qualified because the System, works, Holden is qualified to be Attorney General because he got Mark Rich a pardon. The list goes on of Obama's qualifiers.

Can Rosehaven please tell us what makes this "it" qualified?

I know Old Charlie isnt part of those Obama picked, but it stands out like a sore thumb, that anyone who runs Way's and Means and is a tax cheat that I simply couldnt help myself. I dont suppose we can expect anyone who isnt qualified for his own job to be too good at picking others.

How confused Bill Clinton would be! ShouldI or shouldn't I? "It depends on how you define she!"

Wasn't Clinton's wife a transgender whatever? (Wasn't, Isn't, Coulda been -- make your choice to begin the question)

Why oh why can't they just say - hey I'm the new (whatever) here are my qualifications, and this is why I got hired. Doesn't matter if they're staight, gay, black white, asian christian, jew, muslim, hermaphrodite. Does it matter that it opens doors to thousands (really? that many?) of the same type. Who cares?

Christ in Heaven - can't anyone get a job because they're qualified for the job anymore? Where's the pride in getting hired because you fill some notch on the EEO bar?

I hope this person is truly qualified for the job and does it well. It'd be a first for the Obama administration.

Obviously Rosehaven (being a black liberal Obama panter) believes this thing is qualified. Of course, this thing's statements clearly point to the fact he/she doesn't believe qualifications have anything to do with getting the job. I have to agree with him/her.

Wasn't Clinton's wife a transgender whatever? (Wasn't, Isn't, Coulda been -- make your choice to begin the question)

No, I think she still has her testicles..

or a tail..

something to tuck between her legs when running from sniper fire while running into her bombed out hotel in Dublin..

Obviously Rosehaven (being a black liberal Obama panter) believes this thing is qualified. Of course, this thing's statements clearly point to the fact he/she doesn't believe qualifications have anything to do with getting the job. I have to agree with him/her.

I guess you can call me old fashioned.....Anyone who changes their gender is a freak. I'm not saying we should stone these people or anything like that but it's just strange, mental, twisted, etc. Not as much so as JPC but pretty close. Why would we want these freaks in our government.

Why would we want these freaks in our government.

WE wouldn't. Liberals like the Rosehaven and Obama believe they'll be more tolerant and accepting if we are forced to live among 'em and work with 'em openly in society.

Folks,

The lady/man/whatever was chosen because he/she could do the job. They weren't turned away because they were "different". What they are isn't important. What they can do is the key. I'll bet everyone typing on this forum would want to be treated the same way. End of story.

Folks,

The lady/man/whatever was chosen because he/she could do the job. They weren't turned away because they were "different". What they are isn't important. What they can do is the key. I'll bet everyone typing on this forum would want to be treated the same way. End of story.

Was chosen?

BS, that person was picked by the assn she belongs to and it was suggested that the administration hire her. Do you really think the admin was looking so far afield for someone to become tech director, or even realized they needed one now after a year in office? The assn. she is director of has an agenda and this is it.

You just proved my point.

I wasn't aware the group--whatever that group you mention---has an agenda so one can guess this is something coming from you---not whatever group he/she is a member of. It is more than clear you wouldn't hire this person because of what he/she is. The entire point here is that's wrong.....hire on ability. Once again, end of story.

Someday, you'll live where there's just white guys driving F150's and I'm sure that will be a good place. Being different works. Just let it happen and you'll see it work.

You just proved my point.

I wasn't aware the group--whatever that group you mention---has an agenda so one can guess this is something coming from you---not whatever group he/she is a member of. It is more than clear you wouldn't hire this person because of what he/she is. The entire point here is that's wrong.....hire on ability. Once again, end of story.

Someday, you'll live where there's just white guys driving F150's and I'm sure that will be a good place. Being different works. Just let it happen and you'll see it work.

I use to love and watch Ellen DeGeneres and Rosie O'Donald when they were up and coming comedians, turned TV actresses, movie actresses, talk show host, etc. and once they achieved some form of clout in the entertainment industry, they started shoving their lifestyle agenda down everyones throat like if though people were idiots if they didn't agree with it.

Needless to say, I don't watch either anymore and lifestyles, life choices do eventually transfer into the real world with enough power behind it and believe it or not, not everyone is cool with it!!! :coffee:

... Rosie O'Donald ...they started shoving their lifestyle agenda down everyones throat like if though people were idiots if they didn't agree with it.

. . .shovin a finger up her. . . .

They weren't turned away because they were "different".How do you know he/she would have been? See, when you give all these protections and privileges to someone for being 'different', it may sound noble at first, but you should quickly enough realize the confusion and idiocy that is initiated when you have dozens of people who are 'different' seeking similar protections.

What they are isn't important.Read the statement he/she made again: "I'm truly honored to have received this appointment and am eager and excited about this opportunity that is before me. And at the same time, as one of the first transgender presidential appointees to the federal government, I hope that I will soon be one of hundreds, and that this appointment opens future opportunities for many others." If it was not important, why mention it? Why not stop at the first statement and stay on the point of the position?

I think the most telling part is the "one of hundreds" bit because it sends the signal that this is not about not being looked over for the position, but feeling a special right to the position because of their 'difference'.


I wasn't aware the group--whatever that group you mention---has an agenda so one can guess this is something coming from you---not whatever group he/she is a member of.Not aware? They mention the group - the National Center for Transgender Equality - in the second freaking line of the article. The organization's agenda is in its name! It is not for something universal such as ending world hunger, or even something mundane like exchanging holiday cookie recipes; it has been established to promote their idea of equality. That is an agenda no matter how you define it.

If you can not see a link between that group and his/her new appointment then you must be truly lost.

How do you know he/she would have been? See, when you give all these protections and privileges to someone for being 'different', it may sound noble at first, but you should quickly enough realize the confusion and idiocy that is initiated when you have dozens of people who are 'different' seeking similar protections.

Read the statement he/she made again: "I'm truly honored to have received this appointment and am eager and excited about this opportunity that is before me. And at the same time, as one of the first transgender presidential appointees to the federal government, I hope that I will soon be one of hundreds, and that this appointment opens future opportunities for many others." If it was not important, why mention it? Why not stop at the first statement and stay on the point of the position?

I think the most telling part is the "one of hundreds" bit because it sends the signal that this is not about not being looked over for the position, but feeling a special right to the position because of their 'difference'.


Not aware? They mention the group - the National Center for Transgender Equality - in the second freaking line of the article. The organization's agenda is in its name! It is not for something universal such as ending world hunger, or even something mundane like exchanging holiday cookie recipes; it has been established to promote their idea of equality. That is an agenda no matter how you define it.

If you can not see a link between that group and his/her new appointment then you must be truly lost.

Pssst. Rosehaven is a recent product of American public schools. Not too strong on reading comprehension or critical analytic thinking.

I'm not seeing "Commerce Department" in the resume, I'm seeing maybe DOD, maybe GAO. What I do see is this......

She later ran unsuccessfully for the Arizona House of Representatives and was a delegate for then-Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, to the Democratic National Convention in 2008.

That gets you into the system, and the "woman of the year" gets you picked. Thats what I think.

unusual. Might be a fine person, but I just have reservations about that whole, oh, I must really be a girl, thing. What else is he/she not clear on?




Well, we say we like people who can see an issue from both sides, yes?

:lol:

You just proved my point.

I wasn't aware the group--whatever that group you mention---has an agenda so one can guess this is something coming from you---not whatever group he/she is a member of. It is more than clear you wouldn't hire this person because of what he/she is. The entire point here is that's wrong.....hire on ability. Once again, end of story.

Someday, you'll live where there's just white guys driving F150's and I'm sure that will be a good place. Being different works. Just let it happen and you'll see it work.

Well here you go then. Look this time:

group (http://campaign.constantcontact.com/render?v=001Bu1v_yKrtccPnSKn1kuUrthN5zNpai-u0Q4eKa4vMQ_x0GvWZpSKVxOkt0-fEj8OlO_Wgt6TinpYuEWb-56DhViTFGGMFsQK6sPjPDUA1BC3gOOSX7o2vYNB6DN-EjEGwts5qt1_0uVCGs5H-Yx88_DeGtS4rZyWkOLaWXOJDHFRxQd9o7KzE1pJ48wFU-0o_g4Q3308rwnX856wN87IMLuEnAcFVYxB)

About NCTE

The National Center for Transgender Equality is a national social justice organization devoted to ending discrimination and violence against transgender people through education and advocacy on national issues of importance to transgender people. By empowering transgender people and our allies to educate and influence policymakers and others, NCTE facilitates a strong and clear voice for transgender equality in our nation's capital and around the country. The National Center for Transgender Equality is a 501(c)3 organization.

Yeah, I made it all up while drinking 10oz Buds on the couch on my back porch shootin' cans.

Don't get me wrong. I could care less if he transformed himself into a goat, but don't try to say she got the job based solely on qualifications.

Well, we say we like people who can see an issue from both sides, yes?

:lol:

There is that. Maybe she'll decide she is really a black muslim too.:killingme

And when he said change we can believe in. :yikes:

I can just picture him standing in front of a mirror, weenie tucked in and thinking, "yep, looks good, think I will have it cut off." :faint:

Well here you go then. Look this time:

group (http://campaign.constantcontact.com/render?v=001Bu1v_yKrtccPnSKn1kuUrthN5zNpai-u0Q4eKa4vMQ_x0GvWZpSKVxOkt0-fEj8OlO_Wgt6TinpYuEWb-56DhViTFGGMFsQK6sPjPDUA1BC3gOOSX7o2vYNB6DN-EjEGwts5qt1_0uVCGs5H-Yx88_DeGtS4rZyWkOLaWXOJDHFRxQd9o7KzE1pJ48wFU-0o_g4Q3308rwnX856wN87IMLuEnAcFVYxB)



Yeah, I made it all up while drinking 10oz Buds on the couch on my back porch shootin' cans.

Don't get me wrong. I could care less if he transformed himself into a goat, but don't try to say she got the job based solely on qualifications.
Your tailgate broken?

Your tailgate broken?

No, my coffee table, last party. I'm using the tail gate and some fire wood chunks until a good one shows up at the dump.

What they are isn't important. What they can do is the key.

While I agree with the second half of the quote, I have to disagree with the first half.

What they are is of utmost importance. Otherwise, they wouldn't make such a big deal about it. This person is on the board for some sort of Transgendered Committee... this tells me that her being trangendered is a very central part of who she is as a person and a professional. A person doesn't just "happen to be trangendered". Unlike homosexuality, being transgendered is most definitely a choice - a MAJOR life choice, in fact... more signficant than choosing a career, or spouse or even a religion - and it is therefore a significant portion of their identity. Dismissing it as an unimportant bit of minutiae, when it is obviously quite important, is belittling to them.

And to say that a person's identity has no impact on their job performance is either naive in the extreme or an indication of willful ignorance.

Personally, I don't give a tin #### about the mechanics operating between someone's legs, or whether they've been modified or not. I have long held the opinion that if my my wedding-gear is not involved, I don't care what someone else does with theirs. Nevertheless, I am quite disinclined to ignore pragmatic sensibilities and consequences for the sake of diversity or for the sake of appearing to be indiscriminate. A majority of the country still flips out over the concept of gay marriage. This indicates to me that the country, as a whole, is simply not ready for transgendered people in leadership rolls - regardless of my personal opinion on the matter.

If this person does a good job, then good on her. If she can get past the prejudices and distractions of the many people who now have to work for her, then even better. (I have little hope for the latter. As I said - people aren't ready for this.). However, I'm not going to sit here and pretend that she was appointed for any other reason than a political ploy and appeal to diversity. At the very least, it was a major factor in the overall equation. To pretend otherwise is naive and stupid.