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EmptyTimCup
02-05-2010, 09:14 AM
:doh:

It should go with out saying ... if you want to keep something private, do not store it in the internet ....


Police want backdoor to Web users' private data


Anyone with an e-mail account likely knows that police can peek inside it if they have a paper search warrant.

But cybercrime investigators are frustrated by the speed of traditional methods of faxing, mailing, or e-mailing companies these documents. They're pushing for the creation of a national Web interface linking police computers with those of Internet and e-mail providers so requests can be sent and received electronically.

CNET has reviewed a survey scheduled to be released at a federal task force meeting on Thursday, which says that law enforcement agencies are virtually unanimous in calling for such an interface to be created. Eighty-nine percent of police surveyed, it says, want to be able to "exchange legal process requests and responses to legal process" through an encrypted, police-only "nationwide computer network." (See one excerpt (http://politechbot.com/docs/kardasz.police.isp.survey-1.020210.png) and another (http://politechbot.com/docs/kardasz.police.isp.survey-2.020210.png).)

The survey, according to two people with knowledge of the situation, is part of a broader push from law enforcement agencies to alter the ground rules of online investigations. Other components include renewed calls for laws requiring Internet companies to store data (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-9926803-38.html) about their users for up to five years and increased pressure on companies to respond to police inquiries in hours instead of days.

But the most controversial element is probably the private Web interface, which raises novel security and privacy concerns, especially in the wake of a recent inspector general's report (PDF) (http://www.justice.gov/oig/special/s1001r.pdf) from the Justice Department. The 289-page report detailed how the FBI obtained Americans' telephone records by citing nonexistent emergencies and simply asking for the data or writing phone numbers on a sticky note rather than following procedures required by law.

The police survey is not exactly unbiased: its author is Frank Kardasz, who is scheduled to present it at a meeting (PDF) (http://www.ntia.doc.gov/frnotices/2010/FR_OSTWGMtg_100111.pdf) of the Online Safety and Technology Working Group, organized by the U.S. Department of Commerce. Kardasz, a sergeant in the Phoenix police department and a project director of Arizona's Internet Crimes Against Children (http://www.azicac.org/content.php?section=about&info_id=4) task force, said in an e-mail exchange on Tuesday that he is still revising the document and was unable to discuss it.

In an incendiary October 2009 essay, however, Kardasz wrote that Internet service providers that do not keep records long enough "are the unwitting facilitators of Internet crimes against children" and called for new laws to "mandate data preservation and reporting." He predicts that those companies will begin to face civil lawsuits because of their "lethargic investigative process."

"It sounds very dangerous," says Lee Tien, an attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, referring to the police-only Web interface. "Let's assume you set this sort of thing up. What does that mean in terms of what the law enforcement officer be able to do? Would they be able to fish through transactional information for anyone? I don't understand how you create a system like this without it."


Sweden not playing ball with EU Requirements (http://www.thelocal.se/24784/20100204) .......

DEEKAYPEE8569
02-05-2010, 10:54 AM
:doh:

It should go with out saying ... if you want to keep something private, do not store it in the internet ....





Sweden not playing ball with EU Requirements (http://www.thelocal.se/24784/20100204) .......

Just "Big Brother" trying to exert his own dillusion that he is in control.

I guess the next thing will be; we will all be required to get bar codes tattoo'ed on the backs of our necks. Huh?

Nucklesack
02-05-2010, 11:33 AM
:doh:

It should go with out saying ... if you want to keep something private, do not store it in the internet ....





Sweden not playing ball with EU Requirements (http://www.thelocal.se/24784/20100204) .......

Whats the problem?

If your not doing anything wrong why do you care?


I shouldnt have to but :sarcasm: is implied

EmptyTimCup
02-05-2010, 11:48 AM
Whats the problem?

If your not doing anything wrong why do you care?



:pete:



yeah Ooooo ok

I do not believe I have ever come out for snooping in to peoples lives ... :nomoney:


or are you throwing that out for the benefit of others that have ....

Nucklesack
02-05-2010, 12:00 PM
:pete:



yeah Ooooo ok

I do not believe I have ever come out for snooping in to peoples lives ... :nomoney:


or are you throwing that out for the benefit of others that have ....

Yeah, that wasnt directed at you, that was for those who are willing to sacrifice freedoms for percieved safety.

EmptyTimCup
02-05-2010, 12:01 PM
Yeah, that wasnt directed at you, that was for those who are willing to sacrifice freedoms for percieved safety.



let them move to China or Cuba :elaine:

StadEMS3
02-05-2010, 02:12 PM
The FBI is already watching you with this bill passed-

http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes/

DEEKAYPEE8569
02-05-2010, 02:16 PM
The FBI is already watching you with this bill passed-

http://users.chartertn.net/tonytemplin/FBI_eyes/

Hope they enjoy the show.....


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