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ArkRescue
03-26-2010, 10:46 AM
I have a 1 year old Polish hen named Greta that has labored breathing so I listened to her chest and I do hear some rattle in there. I put her on Terramycin in her water (isolated from others) and she doesn't seem to be getting better but she does eat and drink. The others appear to all be fine. Any idea if I should try another med?
I have noted that she has not laid an egg since she's been confined. She may not have started laying yet this year? I thought she may be egg-bound but after hearing her rattle thought it was respiratory only.
Cowgirl
03-26-2010, 10:59 AM
She may not lay if she's stressed out. How is she acting? Still eating and drinking? Is she alert or lethergic? Runny nose?
ArkRescue
03-26-2010, 11:11 AM
Yes still eating/drinking and no runny nose - just slightly labored breathing and the rattle I hear when I put my ear to her chest. She appears alert. She runs out of the cage to be with the other girls when I open the door. She makes those cute "bugle" sounds of protest when I put her back in there. Poor baby.
She may not lay if she's stressed out. How is she acting? Still eating and drinking? Is she alert or lethergic? Runny nose?
aps45819
03-26-2010, 11:28 AM
I'd invite Greta to dinner
Cowgirl
03-26-2010, 11:29 AM
Yes still eating/drinking and no runny nose - just slightly labored breathing and the rattle I hear when I put my ear to her chest. She appears alert. She runs out of the cage to be with the other girls when I open the door. She makes those cute "bugle" sounds of protest when I put her back in there. Poor baby.
Could be just a cold. I'd just keep an eye on her and if you think it's getting worse then I'd treat her with Tylan. That's a fairly common drug for respiratory issues. From the way it sounds now, I wouldn't be too concerned, but it's your call. I'd call a vet to get Tylan since you only need it for 1 bird.
nomoney
03-26-2010, 11:33 AM
bird flu!
ArkRescue
03-26-2010, 11:39 AM
Nah - she would wouldn't even be a good meal for 1 - she's a polish chicken, and they are not typcally meat birds. I tell everyone they are my special divas and they get away with laying smaller eggs than the rest, and taking the entire Winter off from laying - why? They think they are special because they are so darned cute LOL.
I'd invite Greta to dinner
ArkRescue
03-26-2010, 11:42 AM
I saw Tylan Injectable for sale at Jeffers for around $10 a bottle. I assume someone locally sells it also?
I have never given an animal an injection so how is done on a chicken?
In the meantime I'll do a sweep of the entire flock again later today to check for breathing abnormalities.
Could be just a cold. I'd just keep an eye on her and if you think it's getting worse then I'd treat her with Tylan. That's a fairly common drug for respiratory issues. From the way it sounds now, I wouldn't be too concerned, but it's your call. I'd call a vet to get Tylan since you only need it for 1 bird.
Pasofever
03-26-2010, 11:42 AM
I would probably do a few shots of PCN
Cowgirl
03-26-2010, 11:49 AM
I would probably do a few shots of PCN
You can give pen, but Tylan 50 is usually a little better. I just read the dosage for each is 1/2 cc or mL IM in the breast daily. If you're using pen, make sure you use at least an 18 ga. needle since it's a suspension and you want to make sure the needle is big enough to get the actual meds not just the carrier.
PrepH4U
03-26-2010, 11:51 AM
You can give pen, but Tylan 50 is usually a little better. I just read the dosage for each is 1/2 cc or mL IM in the breast daily. If you're using pen, make sure you use at least an 18 ga. needle since it's a suspension and you want to make sure the needle is big enough to get the actual meds not just the carrier.
Dumb question here, if you have chickens at home for the purpose of free range fresh egg benefit. Why would you want to put chemicals into the chicken? :shrug: Wouldn't these antibiotics transfer to the eggs?
ArkRescue
03-26-2010, 11:53 AM
Oh my, see now that's what I need to learn I guess - I assume the needle is short that is used? How do you know what exact spot to target? Maybe I should find someone who knows how to do it to show me how?
You can give pen, but Tylan 50 is usually a little better. I just read the dosage for each is 1/2 cc or mL IM in the breast daily. If you're using pen, make sure you use at least an 18 ga. needle since it's a suspension and you want to make sure the needle is big enough to get the actual meds not just the carrier.
ArkRescue
03-26-2010, 11:54 AM
Sure IF she were laying eggs (she isn't) - typically you don't eat the eggs of a chicken that is on meds.
Dumb question here, if you have chickens at home for the purpose of free range fresh egg benefit. Why would you want to put chemicals into the chicken? :shrug: Wouldn't these antibiotics transfer to the eggs?
ArkRescue
03-26-2010, 11:59 AM
In doing research online I see many meds being suggested so that's why I wanted to ask locally. I think I do need to buy a few meds to have on hand since all I have is Terramycin at the moment.
Speaking of chicken issues, I have a rooster that looks like he had a mite infestation on his legs but I treated him with Frontline Spray several times as recommended but he still has protruding leg scales - how long does it take for the scales to look normal?
I would probably do a few shots of PCN
Cowgirl
03-26-2010, 12:00 PM
Dumb question here, if you have chickens at home for the purpose of free range fresh egg benefit. Why would you want to put chemicals into the chicken? :shrug: Wouldn't these antibiotics transfer to the eggs?
There's generally a withdrawal time for any meds you use, typically 7-10 days, and that usually goes for milk, meat, and eggs. As long as you're careful to dispose of any eggs from this chicken, it'd be fine.
Oh my, see now that's what I need to learn I guess - I assume the needle is short that is used? How do you know what exact spot to target? Maybe I should find someone who knows how to do it to show me how?
I'd use an 18 guage (guage is the thickness of the needle) 1/2" long needle. I'd also use a 1cc syringe if you can find it. With this small of a dosage, it's easier to dose the correct amount with a smaller syringe. You put the needle on the syringe, flip the bottle of meds upside down, insert the needle, and draw back the plunger on the syringe until you get the correct amount. Sometimes you can draw slightly over the amount you need, then tap the syringe with your finger to get the air bubbles to the top, then you can push out the extra meds to get the correct dose (and that'll push the air bubbles out of the syringe).
To give the chicken meds, you want to give it intramuscularly (IM) in the breast. Just hold her (or have someone else hold her), and insert the needle in the meatiest part of the breast. Slowly press the plunger in, and then withdraw the needle after you've given the meds.
It's easy peasy!
PrepH4U
03-26-2010, 12:04 PM
There's generally a withdrawal time for any meds you use, typically 7-10 days, and that usually goes for milk, meat, and eggs. As long as you're careful to dispose of any eggs from this chicken, it'd be fine.
I'd use an 18 guage (guage is the thickness of the needle) 1/2" long needle. I'd also use a 1cc syringe if you can find it. With this small of a dosage, it's easier to dose the correct amount with a smaller syringe. You put the needle on the syringe, flip the bottle of meds upside down, insert the needle, and draw back the plunger on the syringe until you get the correct amount. Sometimes you can draw slightly over the amount you need, then tap the syringe with your finger to get the air bubbles to the top, then you can push out the extra meds to get the correct dose (and that'll push the air bubbles out of the syringe).
To give the chicken meds, you want to give it intramuscularly (IM) in the breast. Just hold her (or have someone else hold her), and insert the needle in the meatiest part of the breast. Slowly press the plunger in, and then withdraw the needle after you've given the meds.
It's easy peasy!
Thanks for both answers. We had a chicken that was over 8 yrs old and was never sick. One day an nice eagle family moved in! Poor Rosie! :bawl:
Cowgirl
03-26-2010, 01:05 PM
Thanks for both answers. We had a chicken that was over 8 yrs old and was never sick. One day an nice eagle family moved in! Poor Rosie! :bawl:
Aww, poor Rosie. :frown:
ArkRescue
03-26-2010, 01:08 PM
Sorry :frown:
Thanks for both answers. We had a chicken that was over 8 yrs old and was never sick. One day an nice eagle family moved in! Poor Rosie! :bawl:
Pasofever
03-26-2010, 05:13 PM
You can give pen, but Tylan 50 is usually a little better. I just read the dosage for each is 1/2 cc or mL IM in the breast daily. If you're using pen, make sure you use at least an 18 ga. needle since it's a suspension and you want to make sure the needle is big enough to get the actual meds not just the carrier.
Yeah tylan 50 works well too...I like it on the cats also...good stuff..
Pasofever
03-26-2010, 05:15 PM
Oh my, see now that's what I need to learn I guess - I assume the needle is short that is used? How do you know what exact spot to target? Maybe I should find someone who knows how to do it to show me how?
Not talking length here but gage of the needle...PCN is think you need a bigger needle (smaller gage) smaller the gage the thinner the needle...
You inject a chicken in the breast...
Pasofever
03-26-2010, 05:16 PM
There's generally a withdrawal time for any meds you use, typically 7-10 days, and that usually goes for milk, meat, and eggs. As long as you're careful to dispose of any eggs from this chicken, it'd be fine.
I'd use an 18 guage (guage is the thickness of the needle) 1/2" long needle. I'd also use a 1cc syringe if you can find it. With this small of a dosage, it's easier to dose the correct amount with a smaller syringe. You put the needle on the syringe, flip the bottle of meds upside down, insert the needle, and draw back the plunger on the syringe until you get the correct amount. Sometimes you can draw slightly over the amount you need, then tap the syringe with your finger to get the air bubbles to the top, then you can push out the extra meds to get the correct dose (and that'll push the air bubbles out of the syringe).
To give the chicken meds, you want to give it intramuscularly (IM) in the breast. Just hold her (or have someone else hold her), and insert the needle in the meatiest part of the breast. Slowly press the plunger in, and then withdraw the needle after you've given the meds.
It's easy peasy!
:yeahthat: lol I did not read the whole thread
Cowgirl
03-27-2010, 09:06 AM
smaller the guage the thicker the needle...
:fixed: :lol:
ArkRescue
03-29-2010, 01:59 PM
Greta sounded a little better on Saturday so I decided to give her an extra couple days on the current med before trying a new one. I'll check her again today.
Do you know what happends when you stick your ear to the chest of a chicken and they try to fly away? LOL
Pasofever
03-29-2010, 02:09 PM
Greta sounded a little better on Saturday so I decided to give her an extra couple days on the current med before trying a new one. I'll check her again today.
Do you know what happends when you stick your ear to the chest of a chicken and they try to fly away? LOL
:shortbus:
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