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jp2854
05-19-2010, 01:51 PM
who is the wild life rescue person in here? I need a nest of bunnies removed before my dog discovers them on saturday when I go to my moms house. I don't know how many babies there are or any of that all i know is i keep seeing older rabbits come out from under the steps.

cattitude
05-19-2010, 02:17 PM
Keep the dog away from the nest.

Cowgirl
05-19-2010, 03:01 PM
Keep the dog away from the nest.

:dingding:

Chasey_Lane
05-19-2010, 03:24 PM
Keep the bunnies away from you.

:fixed:

RoseRed
05-19-2010, 03:28 PM
Leave the dog at home.

ICit
05-19-2010, 03:43 PM
who is the wild life rescue person in here? I need a nest of bunnies removed before my dog discovers them on saturday when I go to my moms house. I don't know how many babies there are or any of that all i know is i keep seeing older rabbits come out from under the steps.

OMG! Ok.... Really why would u want to mess with mother nature? If there r adult bunnies
And baby bunnies..... LEAVE them BE! Keep ur dog away from them.. Practice some of that obedience work you have learned! :yahoo:
Why would u want to take the babies away from the mom? That would be like animal control taking ur dog from u because u can't control her. :shrug:

jp2854
05-19-2010, 05:15 PM
[QUOTE=ICit;4285955]OMG! Ok.... Really why would u want to mess with mother nature? If there r adult bunnies
And baby bunnies..... LEAVE them BE! Keep ur dog away from them.. Practice some of that obedience work you have learned! :yahoo:
Why would u want to take the babies away from the mom? That would be like animal control taking ur dog from u because u can't control her. :shrug:

thanks for your advice but its not going to work the rabbits have to go. or they will be dead by a dog who kills them. I have tried to keep her away from previous nests and it is not as easy as it sounds. Bruno came from a hunting family when i got her and shes got the instincts in her to hunt rabbits squirrels and other living creatures of nature. I didn't ask for you all to tell me what to do or not do. I asked for a wildlife persons name and number that is it and I got some help from a very nice forumite. I don't plan to say anymore in this thread.

PrepH4U
05-19-2010, 05:54 PM
Qick thought here - does your Mom know you are arranging to have a stranger go to her house and take her rabbits? :shrug:

Roxie04
05-19-2010, 05:56 PM
OMG! Ok.... Really why would u want to mess with mother nature? If there r adult bunnies
And baby bunnies..... LEAVE them BE! Keep ur dog away from them.. Practice some of that obedience work you have learned! :yahoo:
Why would u want to take the babies away from the mom? That would be like animal control taking ur dog from u because u can't control her. :shrug:
You hit the nail on the head!!!!

dawn
05-19-2010, 06:04 PM
thanks for your advice but its not going to work the rabbits have to go. or they will be dead by a dog who kills them. I have tried to keep her away from previous nests and it is not as easy as it sounds. Bruno came from a hunting family when i got her and shes got the instincts in her to hunt rabbits squirrels and other living creatures of nature. I didn't ask for you all to tell me what to do or not do. I asked for a wildlife persons name and number that is it and I got some help from a very nice forumite. I don't plan to say anymore in this thread.

UFB! Seriously, cant you put your dog on a leash when you take him outside?

Roxie04
05-19-2010, 06:26 PM
UFB! Seriously, cant you put your dog on a leash when you take him outside?

She can't control the dog on a leash, she has said it herself.

jp2854
05-19-2010, 06:28 PM
yes my mother knows i told her about it today she even wants the nest gone.

Roxie04
05-19-2010, 06:29 PM
[QUOTE=ICit;4285955]OMG! Ok.... Really why would u want to mess with mother nature? If there r adult bunnies
And baby bunnies..... LEAVE them BE! Keep ur dog away from them.. Practice some of that obedience work you have learned! :yahoo:
Why would u want to take the babies away from the mom? That would be like animal control taking ur dog from u because u can't control her. :shrug:

thanks for your advice but its not going to work the rabbits have to go. or they will be dead by a dog who kills them. I have tried to keep her away from previous nests and it is not as easy as it sounds. Bruno came from a hunting family when i got her and shes got the instincts in her to hunt rabbits squirrels and other living creatures of nature. I didn't ask for you all to tell me what to do or not do. I asked for a wildlife persons name and number that is it and I got some help from a very nice forumite. I don't plan to say anymore in this thread.
I have a dog that is a hunter too. Just the other day i took her out and she went after a bunny. And you know what.........when I said "leave it" she did!!!!! Have you ever heard of anything so cazy in your life?????????? It's called training your dog.

cattitude
05-19-2010, 09:07 PM
yes my mother knows i told her about it today she even wants the nest gone.

Nice.

dawn
05-19-2010, 09:09 PM
Nice.

It appears the apple doesnt fall far from the tree in this instance! Again UFB!

dawn
05-19-2010, 09:12 PM
She can't control the dog on a leash, she has said it herself.

:hangsheadindisbelief: I am learning that I can not be amazed and/or baffeled at the things she says anymore! :mad:

dems4me
05-19-2010, 09:24 PM
My gawd Dawn :killingme: You crack me up! :roflmao: :love:

ICit
05-19-2010, 11:48 PM
[QUOTE=jp2854;4286027]
I have a dog that is a hunter too. Just the other day i took her out and she went after a bunny. And you know what.........when I said "leave it" she did!!!!! Have you ever heard of anything so cazy in your life?????????? It's called training your dog.


I understand! All 5 of my dogs are high prey drive. (Do we all know what that is? .... I'm sure most of us do!). But I have recall on the dogs I can let off lead! (Its called training..... Over and over!). And the ones on lead... Yep.. Imagine that.. A firm leave it works! MY dogs know who is alpha in my house! And when they forget it... I have no problem bustin out some REAL training before the problem gets out of control

Roxie04
05-20-2010, 06:40 AM
You can't just take a dog to a odedience class once and expect it to last a lifetime. And you can't blame the trainer that your dog does not listen. Training a dog NEVER ends. If you can't control your dog and do not feel like taking care of it on a day to day basis you should not own one. I also like the people whos dogs growl at people when taken out in public but yet they keep taking them out. It's like they think it's cool and almost brag about it. It's NEVER EVER the owners fault why their dog acts the way it does, ALWAYS someone elses fault. Hello............the dog is smarter than you!!! It has figured out how to control you. Some people are not capable mentally of taking care of animals properly

Roxie04
05-20-2010, 06:45 AM
I understand! All 5 of my dogs are high prey drive. (Do we all know what that is? .... I'm sure most of us do!). But I have recall on the dogs I can let off lead! (Its called training..... Over and over!). And the ones on lead... Yep.. Imagine that.. A firm leave it works! MY dogs know who is alpha in my house! And when they forget it... I have no problem bustin out some REAL training before the problem gets out of control[/QUOTE]

Training takes time..............something a lot of people say they don't have. And some people, no names needed, have said they just do not feel like fooling with their dog on a day to day basis with certain things.:nono:

DPA469
05-20-2010, 07:08 AM
You can't just take a dog to a odedience class once and expect it to last a lifetime. And you can't blame the trainer that your dog does not listen. Training a dog NEVER ends. If you can't control your dog and do not feel like taking care of it on a day to day basis you should not own one. I also like the people whos dogs growl at people when taken out in public but yet they keep taking them out. It's like they think it's cool and almost brag about it. It's NEVER EVER the owners fault why their dog acts the way it does, ALWAYS someone elses fault. Hello............the dog is smarter than you!!! It has figured out how to control you. Some people are not capable mentally of taking care of animals properly


FOLKS WE HAVE A WINNER HERE!
Well said! I saw a bunny this morning and thought I should have it removed because the neighborhood kids may get it. :shrug:

DPA469
05-20-2010, 07:24 AM
thanks for your advice but its not going to work the rabbits have to go. or they will be dead by a dog who kills them. I have tried to keep her away from previous nests and it is not as easy as it sounds. Bruno came from a hunting family when i got her and shes got the instincts in her to hunt rabbits squirrels and other living creatures of nature. I didn't ask for you all to tell me what to do or not do. I asked for a wildlife persons name and number that is it and I got some help from a very nice forumite. I don't plan to say anymore in this thread.

You really are this clueless! This is a working breed silly, not a hunting breed. You have no clue what you are talking about because most dogs will go after anything that moves. It's not that its a hunting dog, its she sees something move and goes after it.
I have attatched a link for you to maybe learn what type of breed you have.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Bernard_(dog)
We all hope you get a clue and get control of your dog soon. It needs a strong leader, and that you are not.

Good Luck, maybe the wildlife people can remove ALL wildlife from where you live?

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 07:30 AM
You can't just take a dog to a odedience class once and expect it to last a lifetime. And you can't blame the trainer that your dog does not listen. Training a dog NEVER ends. If you can't control your dog and do not feel like taking care of it on a day to day basis you should not own one. I also like the people whos dogs growl at people when taken out in public but yet they keep taking them out. It's like they think it's cool and almost brag about it. It's NEVER EVER the owners fault why their dog acts the way it does, ALWAYS someone elses fault. Hello............the dog is smarter than you!!! It has figured out how to control you. Some people are not capable mentally of taking care of animals properly

:yeahthat:

:love:

Dang right. I've always believed the owner should be held legally responsible for their dog's actions... criminally in cases of unprovoked attacks... Assault by negligience is not so different from assault by intent...

But of course we can't correct dangerous or potentially dangerous behavior... we have to LOVE the dog out of it. Forget that you may be loving the dog straight to a lawsuit and euthaniasia... Or straight under a Mack Truck... Or case of rabies..... etc.

But back to the bunnies...

If you simply must remove these super destructive baby bunnies from your property, you need to call a wildlife removal service... Not a rescue group. Don't tie up their resources by having them take in animals that only need help because you want them gone. They'll do fine if you leave 'em alone. If you have to, call a service to come relocate them, and have your wallet open.

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 07:40 AM
You really are this clueless! This is a working breed silly, not a hunting breed. You have no clue what you are talking about because most dogs will go after anything that moves. It's not that its a hunting dog, its she sees something move and goes after it.
I have attatched a link for you to maybe learn what type of breed you have.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Bernard_(dog)
We all hope you get a clue and get control of your dog soon. It needs a strong leader, and that you are not.

Good Luck, maybe the wildlife people can remove ALL wildlife from where you live?

Yup yup. Called Prey Drive. Every dog has it, just in varying levels. The instinct to focus on, chase after, and take in the mouth, a prey object... be it bunny, squirrel, cat, tennis ball.... It's not "hunting" or "aggression"... it's actually more akin to play. A dog that runs after a ball or fetches a stick and brings it back is working in 'prey'. Notice they are not 'hunting' the ball or stick.

Prey is typically the drive capitalized upon in training, whenever baiting with a toy or tug etc or reward with a non-food item. Prey is also the drive that herders work under, ipso why Border Collies a Malinois A) Have uber high prey drive B) are easy easy to train.

Prey is easy to control by focusing the dogs aqttention upon the handler in periods/areas/events of high prey type stimulation.

DPA469
05-20-2010, 08:07 AM
Yup yup. Called Prey Drive. Every dog has it, just in varying levels. The instinct to focus on, chase after, and take in the mouth, a prey object... be it bunny, squirrel, cat, tennis ball.... It's not "hunting" or "aggression"... it's actually more akin to play. A dog that runs after a ball or fetches a stick and brings it back is working in 'prey'. Notice they are not 'hunting' the ball or stick.

Prey is typically the drive capitalized upon in training, whenever baiting with a toy or tug etc or reward with a non-food item. Prey is also the drive that herders work under, ipso why Border Collies a Malinois A) Have uber high prey drive B) are easy easy to train.

Prey is easy to control by focusing the dogs aqttention upon the handler in periods/areas/events of high prey type stimulation.

I was not gonna use the word PREY because she would assume it was talking about hunting.

:love:

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 08:42 AM
I was not gonna use the word PREY because she would assume it was talking about hunting.

:love:

Careful... you are starting to work in sex drive. Man hunter. :lmao:

:love:

Roxie04
05-20-2010, 09:12 AM
My mastiff has a very high prey drive wich is totally different than my older mastiff. If a butterfly goes by she if after it. She is obsessed with the ball..will go after it no many how many times you throw it. My other mastiff watches you throw the ball and is like if you want it you better go get it cause i don't feel like getting up. But i was amazed with the younger one that by the end of obedience class when she was in a down stay i could bounce the ball and she would not move. My big challange is flashes of light. She will try to climb to the ceiling to get to a light if i let her. I am in the process now of breaking her of that. Has not been easy but we are making progress.

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 09:54 AM
My mastiff has a very high prey drive wich is totally different than my older mastiff. If a butterfly goes by she if after it. She is obsessed with the ball..will go after it no many how many times you throw it. My other mastiff watches you throw the ball and is like if you want it you better go get it cause i don't feel like getting up. But i was amazed with the younger one that by the end of obedience class when she was in a down stay i could bounce the ball and she would not move. My big challange is flashes of light. She will try to climb to the ceiling to get to a light if i let her. I am in the process now of breaking her of that. Has not been easy but we are making progress.

I used to conduct classes where we would all put our dogs in a down in a biiiig circle. Then we would play soccer, or various games involving tennis balls. If a dog got up they were reprimanded and brought back to their original position. After a fashion, the dogs would just lie there and stare. :) It was very fun though, when a 'newbie' dog would suddenly break his down and tear into the group chasing the ball... poor newbie handlers, soooo embarassed.... :)

ICit
05-20-2010, 10:00 AM
My mastiff has a very high prey drive wich is totally different than my older mastiff. If a butterfly goes by she if after it. She is obsessed with the ball..will go after it no many how many times you throw it. My other mastiff watches you throw the ball and is like if you want it you better go get it cause i don't feel like getting up. But i was amazed with the younger one that by the end of obedience class when she was in a down stay i could bounce the ball and she would not move. My big challange is flashes of light. She will try to climb to the ceiling to get to a light if i let her. I am in the process now of breaking her of that. Has not been easy but we are making progress.

U should have someone come and remove ALL butterflies! Problem solved. :yay: :huggy: send check next week!

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 10:08 AM
U should have someone come and remove ALL butterflies! Problem solved. :yay: :huggy: send check next week!

And remove all light! Training is too hard! Poke the dogs eyes out!

PrepH4U
05-20-2010, 11:22 AM
And remove all light! Training is too hard! Poke the dogs eyes out!

I have deer that my dogs bark at, problem is then they forget that they were out there to go potty. Any suggestions? :whistle:

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 11:29 AM
I have deer that my dogs bark at, problem is then they forget that they were out there to go potty. Any suggestions? :whistle:

Move your fence ouward to the deer are kept at least 1/2 mile from the house. Then, the dogs should poop before they notice the deer outside the fence. I'm sure your neibors will be fine with this, as it should help their dogs poo outside too. You could get the entire neighborhhod to fence in a huge "deer exclusion zone".

ICit
05-20-2010, 11:36 AM
I have deer that my dogs bark at, problem is then they forget that they were out there to go potty. Any suggestions? :whistle:

Shoot the deer, freeze it ... you and your dogs have dinner!! :yay:

or maybe you can make a thread to have wildlife come and remove all deer from your area :jet::killingme:buddies:

PrepH4U
05-20-2010, 11:43 AM
Move your fence ouward to the deer are kept at least 1/2 mile from the house. Then, the dogs should poop before they notice the deer outside the fence. I'm sure your neibors will be fine with this, as it should help their dogs poo outside too. You could get the entire neighborhhod to fence in a huge "deer exclusion zone".

Shoot the deer, freeze it ... you and your dogs have dinner!! :yay:

or maybe you can make a thread to have wildlife come and remove all deer from your area :jet::killingme:buddies:

Great ideas! Thanks guys! :buddies:

jp2854
05-20-2010, 11:45 AM
Move your fence ouward to the deer are kept at least 1/2 mile from the house. Then, the dogs should poop before they notice the deer outside the fence. I'm sure your neibors will be fine with this, as it should help their dogs poo outside too. You could get the entire neighborhhod to fence in a huge "deer exclusion zone".

someone needs to learn how to spell its neighbors not neibors.

PrepH4U
05-20-2010, 11:49 AM
someone needs to learn how to spell its neighbors not neibors.

:killingme
So are the bunnies gone? Have they been rescued from your cujo? :lol:

DPA469
05-20-2010, 11:51 AM
someone needs to learn how to spell its neighbors not neibors.
PHSSSSSH
Who cares! Fast typing can lead to this. But at least he can handle his dawgs and train them correctly!
And they listen, also they see him as the leader.
Please follow your advice and not say anymore in this post. TYVM
:coffee:

SoMDGirl42
05-20-2010, 11:52 AM
someone needs to learn how to spell its neighbors not neibors.

someone needs to learn how to train their dog :whistle:

nomoney
05-20-2010, 11:53 AM
when your dog kills the bunnies can I have them? My kids LOVE rabbit stew.

DPA469
05-20-2010, 11:55 AM
:killingme
So are the bunnies gone? Have they been rescused from your cujo? :lol:

You know Prep! If she had a brain she would just let her dog eat them and maybe figure out her dog is not allerigic to rabbit and enjoys a raw fed meal?
:killingme
You know, since her St. Bernard is the great hunter of all times!

SoMDGirl42
05-20-2010, 11:57 AM
You know Prep! If she had a brain she would just let her dog eat them and maybe figure out her dog is not allerigic to rabbit and enjoys a raw fed meal?
:killingme
You know, since her St. Bernard is the great hunter of all times!

doesn't her dog have food allergies? Maybe the dog is trying to tell her she needs a raw diet of rabbit?

ICit
05-20-2010, 11:59 AM
someone needs to learn how to train their dog :whistle:

Its not a matter of training her dog….. First it’s a matter of training her and … many have tried. None have gotten thru to her yet. :shrug:
Then it’s a matter of teaching the dog who is boss. If you have not followed along… this only works when the trainer is working with the pair of them. (even sometimes)

SoMDGirl42
05-20-2010, 12:02 PM
Its not a matter of training her dog….. First it’s a matter of training her and … many have tried. None have gotten thru to her yet. :shrug:
Then it’s a matter of teaching the dog who is boss. If you have not followed along… this only works when the trainer is working with the pair of them. (even sometimes)

So you are saying sometimes like animals you get from the pound, humans need to be returned to the gene pool when they are just too dense to get it?

ICit
05-20-2010, 12:20 PM
So you are saying sometimes like animals you get from the pound, humans need to be returned to the gene pool when they are just too dense to get it?


BINGO! C... That why I :love: ya

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 12:29 PM
someone needs to learn how to spell its neighbors not neibors.

Someone needs to get the stick out of their a** and learn how to deal with their dog before they criticize me for anything. My spelling will never bite anyone or drag them down the street.

And of course we all know that going through your posts we would never find a mispelling.... :rolleyes:

EDIT: Know what JP? Scratch that. From the very beginning I was told not to waste my time on you, that you wouldn't listen, that your preconcieved notions and effed up ideas about your pets and how to properly treat them would preclude anyone from being able to help you solve the problems you have with them.

Still, I tried to help you. I offered sound advice, I offered to come out and help you with Bruno for FREE. I offered my time, and the sum of countless hours learning, training, studying dogs and how they behave, countless competitions, etc. You turned me down in favor of someone you thought may better fit you own misguided sensibilities. Fine. No problem. Then, in a PM, you basically accused me of abuse because I have the courage to use corrections and a firm hand on an animal that is a potential danger to it's owner and evryone who gets near it. #### YOU. I would never ever strike a dog, not out of anger, and not in the name of training. But I will say this... if I ever happen to encounter you and your dog while I am out with my kids and it so much as curls a lip at them from a block away I'll kill it myself, and I will be well within my legal rights to do so.

You have no idea what it is you are doing, and you have know to deal with people, let alone animals. I tried to help you, I tried to be sympathetic, not just with Bruno but with your other personal issues you brought up as well. What do I get in return? Some ignorant ##### telling me I abuse my dogs because I use a training collar, and equating it to beating them. Nice. When I responded to that and in an even manner explained that was not the case, guess what, you never responded. Now, you pretend to correct my spelling??

Well guess what. #### you and the horse you rode in on.

I'm gonna make a new thread and repost this just to make sure you get to read it, and people can see what it is you do to people who try to help you.

Oh and congrats, you are only the third person on my iggy list.

SoMDGirl42
05-20-2010, 12:31 PM
Someone needs to get the stick out of their a** and learn how to deal with their dog before they criticize me for anything. My spelling will never bite anyone or drag them down the street.

spelling and grammatical errors sometimes make my eyes bleed :smoochy: :killingme

ICit
05-20-2010, 12:34 PM
Someone needs to get the stick out of their a** and learn how to deal with their dog before they criticize me for anything. My spelling will never bite anyone or drag them down the street.

And of course we all know that going through your posts we would never find a mispelling.... :rolleyes:

Its a ... Hi "pot"... Meet "kettle" moment

:coffee:

ArkRescue
05-20-2010, 12:44 PM
a wild life rescue can't SAVE baby bunnies - they will DIE if removed from the Mother - period.

yes my mother knows i told her about it today she even wants the nest gone.

ICit
05-20-2010, 12:48 PM
a wild life rescue can't SAVE baby bunnies - they will DIE if removed from the Mother - period.
Thanks for your info.
(what about the butterflies, deer and lights? Can you help with those? :killingme)

PrepH4U
05-20-2010, 12:50 PM
Thanks for your info.
(what about the butterflies, deer and lights? Can you help with those? :killingme)

I can take the butterflies, I am a registered butterfly relocation person... :whistle:

ArkRescue
05-20-2010, 12:52 PM
HEY - that's NOT NICE ..... I like the deer, and the deer shouldn't be punished just because the dog is a deer-nut :whistle: ...... how come my spell checker has so many red lines under words in your post? oh, I should shut up with how many typos I'm capable of - not to mention omitted words :razz:

Move your fence ouward to the deer are kept at least 1/2 mile from the house. Then, the dogs should poop before they notice the deer outside the fence. I'm sure your neibors will be fine with this, as it should help their dogs poo outside too. You could get the entire neighborhhod to fence in a huge "deer exclusion zone".

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 12:57 PM
HEY - that's NOT NICE ..... I like the deer, and the deer shouldn't be punished just because the dog is a deer-nut :whistle: ...... how come my spell checker has so many red lines under words in your post? oh, I should shut up with how many typos I'm capable of - not to mention omitted words :razz:

Mmmmm deer nuts. Deep fried. Like baby rocky mountain oysters... a hunters beer nuts.... MMmmmm.

ArkRescue
05-20-2010, 01:00 PM
oh MY I hope I never end up on that list ..... I think you have great dog skills, and I hope my boy learns a LOT from you :buddies:



Oh and congrats, you are only the third person on my iggy list.

ArkRescue
05-20-2010, 01:02 PM
GROSS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mmmmm deer nuts. Deep fried. Like baby rocky mountain oysters... a hunters beer nuts.... MMmmmm.

PrepH4U
05-20-2010, 01:03 PM
Mmmmm deer nuts. Deep fried. Like baby rocky mountain oysters... a hunters beer nuts.... MMmmmm.

hmmm new business venture :shrug: For all the slack you may get, just explain it as a neuter program, :lol:

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 01:11 PM
oh MY I hope I never end up on that list ..... I think you have great dog skills, and I hope my boy learns a LOT from you :buddies:

Teach you some doggy style? :dye:

ArkRescue
05-20-2010, 01:11 PM
hey, we could recruit Turbok9 to help us promote the neuter program ???? :whistle:

at the fundraiser's we can offer up tasty morsels with dipping sauce :killingme

hmmm new business venture :shrug: For all the slack you may get, just explain it as a neuter program, :lol:

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 01:13 PM
hey, we could recruit Turbok9 to help us promote the neuter program ???? :whistle:

at the fundraiser's we can offer up tasty morsels with dipping sauce :killingme

You bring the sauce I'll bring the testicles. :gossip:

ICit
05-20-2010, 01:18 PM
You bring the sauce I'll bring the testicles. :gossip:
:faint:

oh lord!

and yes..... I trust Turbo's training! Its the same methods I use and I would trust him correcting my dogs.

And shame on her for thinking you would EVER hit a dog as a correction!!!

dawn
05-20-2010, 01:31 PM
:faint:

oh lord!

and yes..... I trust Turbo's training! Its the same methods I use and I would trust him correcting my dogs.

And shame on her for thinking you would EVER hit a dog as a correction!!!


All I can say....is consider the source!

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 01:51 PM
:faint:

oh lord!

and yes..... I trust Turbo's training! Its the same methods I use and I would trust him correcting my dogs.

And shame on her for thinking you would EVER hit a dog as a correction!!!

:smoochy:

Katelin
05-20-2010, 01:56 PM
Thank you all for your brillant suggestions...
The situation has been taken care of.
Regards,
Katelin
Wildlife Rehabber, DNR, MD

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 02:10 PM
Thank you all for your brillant suggestions...
The situation has been taken care of.
Regards,
Katelin
Wildlife Rehabber, DNR, MD

If you can't say anything nice about someone maybe you shouldn't say anything at all.

You put your title in there you may want to watch the sarcastic commentary and pay your own words heed.

ArkRescue
05-20-2010, 02:11 PM
Link to information about baby bunnies and dogs:

FAQ: Orphaned Baby Bunnies (http://www.rabbit.org/faq/sections/orphan.html#I/My%20Dog/My%20Cat%20Found%20a%20Rabbit%20Nest!%20What%20Do%20I%20Do?)

"If your dog disturbs a nest or you find a wild bunny with its eyes open, please put him back if not injured. Mom will be coming back at night to call and feed him only once in the middle of the night. Do not take the bunny inside or feed him. That is the mom's job. IT IS A MATTER OF HIS/HER SURVIVAL AND UP TO US AS HUMANS TO LEAVE NATURE BE AND LET THE MOM CARE FOR HER YOUNG. We often hear of mothers moving their babies and their nests, and have seen moms come back every night for up to a week to look for her missing baby. Do not take the baby from the mom or she will be frantic. "

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 02:14 PM
Thank you all for your brillant suggestions...
The situation has been taken care of.
Regards,
Katelin
Wildlife Rehabber, DNR, MD

Oh and hey, do you actually WORK for the DNR? Or do you just have a rehab license? If you work for them cool...

If not, don't sign your name with DNR please? That is misleading and makes it look like you are an official DNR employee.

SoMDGirl42
05-20-2010, 02:15 PM
Link to information about baby bunnies and dogs:

FAQ: Orphaned Baby Bunnies (http://www.rabbit.org/faq/sections/orphan.html#I/My%20Dog/My%20Cat%20Found%20a%20Rabbit%20Nest!%20What%20Do%20I%20Do?)

"If your dog disturbs a nest or you find a wild bunny with its eyes open, please put him back if not injured. Mom will be coming back at night to call and feed him only once in the middle of the night. Do not take the bunny inside or feed him. That is the mom's job. IT IS A MATTER OF HIS/HER SURVIVAL AND UP TO US AS HUMANS TO LEAVE NATURE BE AND LET THE MOM CARE FOR HER YOUNG. We often hear of mothers moving their babies and their nests, and have seen moms come back every night for up to a week to look for her missing baby. Do not take the baby from the mom or she will be frantic. "

I'll assume this means you did not move the babies for her and Bruno is now enjoying rabbit stew for dinner tonight. :drool:

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 02:21 PM
I'll assume this means you did not move the babies for her and Bruno is now enjoying rabbit stew for dinner tonight. :drool:

I think Katelin was the bunny mover...

Arky was just pointing out they proll' shoulda been left where they were.

ICit
05-20-2010, 02:26 PM
Oh and hey, do you actually WORK for the DNR? Or do you just have a rehab license? If you work for them cool...

If not, don't sign your name with DNR please? That is misleading and makes it look like you are an official DNR employee.

I will also check on that DNR thing for ya..... my friend is with DNR. I will get the low down on the rehab side.

but you are correct... very misleading

TurboK9
05-20-2010, 02:28 PM
I will also check on that DNR thing for ya..... my friend is with DNR. I will get the low down on the rehab side.

but you are correct... very misleading

Well and if she does work for them I'd like to know her shift hours and whether social sites are off limits for DNR employees on the clock.

nomoney
05-20-2010, 04:21 PM
If you can't say anything nice about someone maybe you shouldn't say anything at all.

.

I think thats why she doesn't talk at all anymore :lol:

frequentflier
05-20-2010, 06:43 PM
Mmmmm deer nuts. Deep fried. Like baby rocky mountain oysters... a hunters beer nuts.... MMmmmm.

Do you know the difference between beer nuts and deer nuts?








Beer nuts are a 2 dollars a pound and deer nuts are under a buck!!

(old joke, I know...:roflmao:)

:buddies:

BS Gal
05-20-2010, 07:18 PM
I can take the butterflies, I am a registered butterfly relocation person... :whistle:

Hey, me too! :clap: But, I bet YOU don't have your dragonfly relocation licence. :dance:

PrepH4U
05-20-2010, 08:46 PM
Hey, me too! :clap: But, I bet YOU don't have your dragonfly relocation licence. :dance:

Nope sadly I am still in training, still have to finish my internship! :yahoo: So was the final exam tough? :whistle:

ArkRescue
05-20-2010, 09:24 PM
Now, now, I must say that I do KNOW there is a good deal that goes into learning the in's/out's of wild animal rehab - I was interested in adding that to my skills, but discovered the training involved was beyond the time I had available at this point in my life.

The wild critter rehabbers do need training, and some of them require expensive vaccinations also (like Rabies), depends on which critters they specialize in. I think the wildlife people are just wonderful because there is very little rescue $$ to help with wild critter expenses. Most (maybe all) of the wildlife rescue folks locally don't have PAID stafffers at all - only volunteers. It's only some of the domestic critter rescues (example: cat rescue) that are fortunate enough to make enough $$ via donations and adoption fees to pay salaries to their top staff while promoting volunteerism for the extra help they need.

BS Gal
05-20-2010, 09:33 PM
Nope sadly I am still in training, still have to finish my internship! :yahoo: So was the final exam tough? :whistle:

Yes it was. First, you have to get the shots to prevent the dragonfly fever. After that, you have to practice standing on one leg with your arm above your head (holding a geranium basket) for 3 minutes. It's tough, but really worth it. After that is the final test as you lay in the pond with water lillies on your back. Once you get them on your back, you have to do a quick "flip-over" (as we like to call it) and capture, capture, capture in your net. AND you have to make the net out of spider webs before they'll even let you in to the finals. Good luck! It was tough.

PrepH4U
05-20-2010, 09:48 PM
Yes it was. First, you have to get the shots to prevent the dragonfly fever. After that, you have to practice standing on one leg with your arm above your head (holding a geranium basket) for 3 minutes. It's tough, but really worth it. After that is the final test as you lay in the pond with water lillies on your back. Once you get them on your back, you have to do a quick "flip-over" (as we like to call it) and capture, capture, capture in your net. AND you have to make the net out of spider webs before they'll even let you in to the finals. Good luck! It was tough.

:killingme:killingme:killingme
Oh my! I don't think I will ever be able to accomplish that I am allergic to geranuims!
You got me! You have gotten very good! Where are all the newbies? Fun times! :buddies:
Thanks for the chuckles :huggy:

ArkRescue
05-20-2010, 09:49 PM
PS - the rescue work WE do is all 100% volunteer at this point - heck if we could only cover our expenses we'd be grateful!

Step 1. Cover Vet Bills (not there yet)
Step 2. Cover Feed Bills (no way - where's the $$)
Step 3. Cover Equipment Bills (you're kidding right?)
Step 4. Cover Transportation Expenses ( okay are we still hitch-hiking)

You see the pattern already ...... for those domestic rescues that are well-established, they have all of that covered AND pay a salary to the top person(people).

Honestly the wildlife rescues really NEED more support. Most of them run on such dire budgets, if they have a budget at all.

PrepH4U
05-20-2010, 09:50 PM
Now, now, I must say that I do KNOW there is a good deal that goes into learning the in's/out's of wild animal rehab - I was interested in adding that to my skills, but discovered the training involved was beyond the time I had available at this point in my life.

The wild critter rehabbers do need training, and some of them require expensive vaccinations also (like Rabies), depends on which critters they specialize in. I think the wildlife people are just wonderful because there is very little rescue $$ to help with wild critter expenses. Most (maybe all) of the wildlife rescue folks locally don't have PAID stafffers at all - only volunteers. It's only some of the domestic critter rescues (example: cat rescue) that are fortunate enough to make enough $$ via donations and adoption fees to pay salaries to their top staff while promoting volunteerism for the extra help they need.

It's ok, not making fun of rehabbers they are great. Just revisiting some old time fun. :buddies:

PrepH4U
05-20-2010, 09:51 PM
PS - the rescue work WE do is all 100% volunteer at this point - heck if we could only cover our expenses we'd be grateful!

Step 1. Cover Vet Bills (not there yet)
Step 2. Cover Feed Bills (no way - where's the $$)
Step 3. Cover Equipment Bills (you're kidding right?)
Step 4. Cover Transportation Expenses ( okay are we still hitch-hiking)

You see the pattern already ...... for those domestic rescues that are well-established, they have all of that covered AND pay a salary to the top person(people).

Honestly the wildlife rescues really NEED more support. Most of them run on such dire budgets, if they have a budget at all.

Have you had your dragonfly vacinations? :shrug: :killingme:buddies:

ArkRescue
05-20-2010, 10:08 PM
OH MY - I think we are saving $$ up for those right now :smoochy:

Have you had your dragonfly vacinations? :shrug: :killingme:buddies:

Roxie04
05-20-2010, 10:18 PM
I used to conduct classes where we would all put our dogs in a down in a biiiig circle. Then we would play soccer, or various games involving tennis balls. If a dog got up they were reprimanded and brought back to their original position. After a fashion, the dogs would just lie there and stare. :) It was very fun though, when a 'newbie' dog would suddenly break his down and tear into the group chasing the ball... poor newbie handlers, soooo embarassed.... :)

Do you still teach training classes? My dog just finished the basic obedience but i want to go further with it.

ArkRescue
05-20-2010, 10:31 PM
I was THINKING the SAME thing! I don't want to suffer as the newbie to have their dog act up - but I think it's important for ALL dogs to learn restraint.

Do you still teach training classes? My dog just finished the basic obedience but i want to go further with it.

frequentflier
05-21-2010, 08:25 AM
Yes it was. First, you have to get the shots to prevent the dragonfly fever. After that, you have to practice standing on one leg with your arm above your head (holding a geranium basket) for 3 minutes. It's tough, but really worth it. After that is the final test as you lay in the pond with water lillies on your back. Once you get them on your back, you have to do a quick "flip-over" (as we like to call it) and capture, capture, capture in your net. AND you have to make the net out of spider webs before they'll even let you in to the finals. Good luck! It was tough.

I may have to pull rank on you if you hurt the spiders. Rescue certification for them involved a whole lot more than butterfly and dragonfly training. It involved going into a lot of dark and dirty places and sticking your hands and fingers in some pretty creepy places!

ICit
05-21-2010, 08:28 AM
I may have to pull rank on you if you hurt the spiders. Rescue certification for them involved a whole lot more than butterfly and dragonfly training. It involved going into a lot of dark and dirty places and sticking you hands and fingers in some pretty creepy places!

:jameo::jameo:

:creapyspiderdance:

:faint:

PrepH4U
05-21-2010, 09:00 AM
I may have to pull rank on you if you hurt the spiders. Rescue certification for them involved a whole lot more than butterfly and dragonfly training. It involved going into a lot of dark and dirty places and sticking you hands and fingers in some pretty creepy places!

Oh really??? :shocked: Do explain, I would be interested in hearing all about the training that you went through. :whistle:

frequentflier
05-21-2010, 09:25 AM
Oh really??? :shocked: Do explain, I would be interested in hearing all about the training that you went through. :whistle:

As opposed to the free flying dragons and flutter bys, spiders like to hide in dark crevices and cracks. You can't be scared of those unknown places and must be willing to go into them with your instructor with your eyes closed and mouth wide open! I was told that you never know what will end up all over your face and hair. Funny, the spider webs never looked like they were that wet and sticky...
Fortunately, I was single at the time and my instructor was pretty HOT so I didn't mind exploring those areas with him.
BTW, I passed the tests with flying colors :lmao:

SoMDGirl42
05-21-2010, 09:30 AM
As opposed to the free flying dragons and flutter bys, spiders like to hide in dark crevices and cracks. You can't be scared of those unknown places and must be willing to go into them with your instructor with your eyes closed and mouth wide open! I was told that you never know what will end up all over your face and hair. Funny, the spider webs never looked like they were that wet and sticky...
Fortunately, I was single at the time and my instructor was pretty HOT so I didn't mind exploring those areas with him.
BTW, I passed the tests with flying colors :lmao:
sounds to me like everyone woke up with their minds in the gutter this morning :killingme

frequentflier
05-21-2010, 09:32 AM
sounds to me like everyone woke up with their minds in the gutter this morning :killingme

guilty as charged :coffee:

ICit
05-21-2010, 09:44 AM
sounds to me like everyone woke up with their minds in the gutter this morning :killingme


Mine stays in the gutter :killingme:dye::dye::spank:

ArkRescue
05-21-2010, 11:11 AM
well you two are a riot LOL

It's ok, not making fun of rehabbers they are great. Just revisiting some old time fun. :buddies:

PrepH4U
05-21-2010, 03:40 PM
As opposed to the free flying dragons and flutter bys, spiders like to hide in dark crevices and cracks. You can't be scared of those unknown places and must be willing to go into them with your instructor with your eyes closed and mouth wide open! I was told that you never know what will end up all over your face and hair. Funny, the spider webs never looked like they were that wet and sticky...
Fortunately, I was single at the time and my instructor was pretty HOT so I didn't mind exploring those areas with him.
BTW, I passed the tests with flying colors :lmao:

:killingme
I knew you had it in you! :whistle:
This is why I will never go into spider rescue! I just smash those suckers, so their webs don't suprise me.


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