...to ask in the Land of Not Cruisers but, I like you people so, here goes!

This?

Yamaha Stratoliner Midnight Accessories, Yamaha Stratoliner Midnight Big Bar Engine Guards (http://www.starmotorcycles.com/star/products/modelsscitem500/5/482/1919/14624/2008/1/6065/0/main/0/itemdetail.aspx)

...or one of these?

Lindby Custom Inc. :: Twinbar :: Harley Davidson :: Harley Davidson Heritage, Deluxe, Fatboy, Screaming Eagle Fat Boy (http://www.lindbycustom.com/cart/product.php?productid=16133&cat=252&page=1)

...for da' Strat?

IF the Lindby's foot rest is in the correct/comfortable position and you like the appearence, go for it.

If the foot rest isn't perfect, go with a set of regular bars and a set of Kuryakyn foot rests (http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.Cat/catID/18)

My legs are so short those things don't do me any good.

I have a V Star 1300 and went with the OEM bars although I like the look of the Lindby bars better. Part was cost but part was, like aps pointed out, position of the built in foot rest. The 1300 has a fairly big air cleaner which makes it hard to use the Lindby.

If there is a problem with posting links to other forums then mods please delete but you may want to check out Yamaha Motorcycle Forum (http://www.yamahamotorcycleforum.com/). There are lots of friendly people who can offer their "experienced" $.02. Also forum members can get OEM Yamaha parts much cheaper by going through Heather at Bignumber1.com (http://www.bignumber1.com/). I got my OEM bars for $145 vice the $194 charged by momma Yami.

My legs are so short those things don't do me any good.

:lol:

:buddies:

If there is a problem with posting links to other forums then mods please delete but you may want to check out Yamaha Motorcycle Forum (http://www.yamahamotorcycleforum.com/).

:yeahthat: brand and model specific forums are only a google away.

:yeahthat: brand and model specific forums are only a google away.

yawp

Star Motorcycle Forums: Star Raider, V-Max, V-Star, Road-Star Forum (http://www.starbikeforums.com/forums/index.php)

Just wanted some opinions from people I am familiar with. :buddies:

IF the Lindby's foot rest is in the correct/comfortable position and you like the appearence, go for it.

If the foot rest isn't perfect, go with a set of regular bars and a set of Kuryakyn foot rests (http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.Cat/catID/18)

Yep, those foot rests are made for the average rider. Neither Vince nor Larry fit that catagory. ( I almost said normal, :lol:)

Yep, those foot rests are made for the average rider. Neither Vince nor Larry fit that catagory. ( I almost said normal, :lol:)

:lol:

You don't think the Lindby flip down peg on the twin bar is adjustable? I couldn't tell.

:lol:

You don't think the Lindby flip down peg on the twin bar is adjustable? I couldn't tell.

The only one's I've seen with a wide adjustment range are the Kuryakyns

:lol:

You don't think the Lindby flip down peg on the twin bar is adjustable? I couldn't tell.

Might be.

Just wanted some opinions from people I am familiar with. :buddies:
Thought you might find a fellow Strat rider about your size who has the Lindby bars installed

Thought you might find a fellow Strat rider about your size who has the Lindby bars installed

there ain't very many! :buddies:

Can't you put kuri pegs on the lindby bar?

The best money you can spend is to make your self more VISIBLE.. comfort won't mean much if you're laid up in a hospital.

MOTOLIGHTS ROCK!! $$$$, but I think they are worth every penny.

ANd anything to give you more than a single headlight. Drivers can't ascertain distance correctly if you only have a single light, especially since they are "programmed" to two headlights placed X distance apart.

Drivers can't ascertain distance correctly if you only have a single light, especially since they are "programmed" to two headlights placed X distance apart.

Wouldn't X-y make them think you're farther away than just a single light?

MOTOLIGHTS ROCK!! $$$$, but I think they are worth every penny.
Same effect at a fraction of the price - $18 aux lights from Walmart :biggrin:

Same effect at a fraction of the price - $18 aux lights from Walmart :biggrin:

Maybe the same sort of effect, but you definitely get what you pay for.

I let my motolights go that I got for free when I sold my bike, and after seeing my own bike coming at me for the first time with the motolights on, the first thing I bought for my new bike was another set.

You can also buy a helmet at Wal Mart for $30, but...

Wouldn't X-y make them think you're farther away than just a single light?

The problem is with a single light there is not way to judge distance at all. Most will judge your single light farther away than you really are.

MSF research show a single low beam with driving lights is the best AFTER a car.. but still they judged the "safe distance" 35 feet closer for the motorcycle than the car.

LAST was a modulating low beam.. the safe distance judged for it was 20 feet CLOSER than the driving lights and closer than a single normal low beam, and almost 60 feet closer than a car.

In other words, they thought it safe to pull out in front of a car going 45 MPH at 311 feet, but a bike with driving lights 275 feet, and a bike with a modulating headlight.. they only gave them 250 feet.

BUT that's only ONE scenario and doesn't really answer the conspicuity question.. When someone at the front of the pack comes back to ask me what kind of lights I have.. "Because every time I looked in my rearviews you stuck out of the pack. I ALWAYS knew where you were!" THAT answered the question for me. I don't depend on it, but I like to think that I'm more conspicuos than everyone around me. If someone is approaching me from an oncoming lane, or if I'm coming up behind them I have a MUCH better chance of not just being seen at all, but being seen much further down the road.

The problem is with a single light there is not way to judge distance at all. Most will judge your single light farther away than you really are.

MSF research show a single low beam with driving lights is the best AFTER a car.. but still they judged the "safe distance" 35 feet closer for the motorcycle than the car.

LAST was a modulating low beam.. the safe distance judged for it was 20 feet CLOSER than the driving lights and closer than a single normal low beam, and almost 60 feet closer than a car.

In other words, they thought it safe to pull out in front of a car going 45 MPH at 311 feet, but a bike with driving lights 275 feet, and a bike with a modulating headlight.. they only gave them 250 feet.

BUT that's only ONE scenario and doesn't really answer the conspicuity question.. When someone at the front of the pack comes back to ask me what kind of lights I have.. "Because every time I looked in my rearviews you stuck out of the pack. I ALWAYS knew where you were!" THAT answered the question for me. I don't depend on it, but I like to think that I'm more conspicuos than everyone around me. If someone is approaching me from an oncoming lane, or if I'm coming up behind them I have a MUCH better chance of not just being seen at all, but being seen much further down the road.

Then, when everyone has your lights, what then? The light arms race starts all over! :jameo:

Then, when everyone has your lights, what then? The light arms race starts all over! :jameo:

I've already got the HID's so they have a lot of catching up to do before I sit down at the SALT II table.

:buddies:

Have to admit though, the $18 WalMarts are still better than a single light.

I've already got the HID's so they have a lot of catching up to do before I sit down at the SALT II table.

:buddies:

Have to admit though, the $18 WalMarts are still better than a single light.

What is the key here, the lights down low by the forks or just having three lights a la HD?

My bike is factory wired to add two lights, passing lights they call them.

What is the key here, the lights down low by the forks or just having three lights a la HD?

My bike is factory wired to add two lights, passing lights they call them.
My personal belief is the triangle of lights, but even moreso the type of lights.. the brightness, the color and how much they stand out. Three identical weak lights in a row, I really don't think will make much of a difference.

I think if you had two HID lights up high as well as your low/high beam.. :yay: HIDs REALLY stick out in a crowd, if you have ever driven at night you know how well you can pick them out Waaaaaay down (or up) the road.

My personal belief is the triangle of lights, but even moreso the type of lights.. the brightness, the color and how much they stand out. Three identical weak lights in a row, I really don't think will make much of a difference.

I think if you had two HID lights up high as well as your low/high beam.. :yay: HIDs REALLY stick out in a crowd, if you have ever driven at night you know how well you can pick them out Waaaaaay down (or up) the road.

OK, so we aren't talking about illuminating in width for the riders vision but, to BE seen? I ask because down low would seem to me to really help with light width across my path.

OK, so we aren't talking about illuminating in width for the riders vision but, to BE seen? I ask because down low would seem to me to really help with light width across my path.
From the Motorcycle Safety Site
Many years ago the railroad industry determined that the most conspicuous lighting arrangement, and safest, was to have a triangle of forward facing lights, the largest, brightest light at the top and two slightly smaller/dimmer lights mounted horizontally below it. This configuration had benefits that might not be immediately obvious. Most notably, when a train is moving toward you the two bottom lights appear to get farther apart. Thus, you not only recognize the lights as coming from a train, but you can tell if it is moving toward you, and you can even estimate at what speed.

A motorcycle can have exactly the same lighting advantage. If you mount running lights below your headlight you have created that magic triangle. When seen from the front you no longer look like a far distant car. Since nobody expects to see a train coming toward them on a public road, you are recognized for being 'something else' - indeed, almost certainly a motorcycle.

OK, so we aren't talking about illuminating in width for the riders vision but, to BE seen? I ask because down low would seem to me to really help with light width across my path.

MotoLights provide some side and a little upclose forward illum.. but with the HIDs I have more than enough light forward. I used the Moto's mostly for conspicuity. I just ordered a new wiring kit so I can get them working again. I took the wiring out a few months back to do a more professional neater job of an install, and never went back and did it, mostly because of time. Now I'm riding too much to put it off any longer.


Even got new Ushio 55w 6500K bulbs in them now.. closer color match to the headlights.

To be seen, break the normal pattern. For cars, this is what led to the CHMSL fiasco. For your personal bike, not a chance of that happening. I will say, however, all lighting schemes, like clothing, depend on the car driver seeing you. Me, I vow to NEVER trust a car rider to see me. I assume, as a matter of course, that I'm invisible. Given that, it really doesn't matter what you do or wear. I am choosing silver/grey for my next jacket based on that.

HID headlights with stock 25W MotoLights.

I now have 50w 6500k bulbs in the same housing.

Looking at the pictures and the color of the lights, I'm thinking the one on the left is the new bulbs in the fork/ caliper lights.

From the Motorcycle Safety Site

:buddies:

To be seen, break the normal pattern. For cars, this is what led to the CHMSL fiasco.

I am choosing silver/grey for my next jacket based on that.

:confused:

My last jacket was silver, didn't notice much difference in the reactions of other drivers.. Went a little brighter and have noticed a major difference.

Then, when everyone has your lights, what then? The light arms race starts all over! :jameo:

Itsbob approaching in the not to distant future.

Itsbob approaching in the not to distant future.

:killingme

Itsbob approaching in the not to distant future.

:lmao:

AWESOME ride to the gym at 5:30, but chilly but CRISP! :yahoo:

Superb work out and then I just couldn't seem to find my way back home, mile after mile. Hit 70 W, back roads galore. Stopped at the folks house for coffee and got 'lost' the 1/4 mile to my place and got gas, road around some more, working on my new mad Total Control skills, came up on a laft hander that crowned and then fell away, over, down, L to R and unloaded the suspension, especially the front end, to where it gave me a bit of an anti gravity thrill. :yikes:

Hopefully going to see Randy Mann next week for suspension work now that I feel confident enough to start pushing the bike more. The class made me a WAY better curve rider. Night and day.

Good day to be alive and riding. Kinda like yesterday. And the day before...and the day before that and... :yahoo:

Hopefully going to see Randy Mann next week for suspension work now that I feel confident enough to start pushing the bike more. The class made me a WAY better curve rider. Night and day.



Should have gotten the GS :lol:
Cruisers have a suspension designed for cruising. You might stiffen it up but the basic design of the bike will limit your ability to corner.

Should have gotten the GS :lol:
Cruisers have a suspension designed for cruising. You might stiffen it up but the basic design of the bike will limit your ability to corner.

That's the kewl thing about the Strat; it WILL corner well. Way better than the HD's I rode. Just need to tighten up a bit.

I'll have a r1200gs adventure or RT one day. :buddies:

That's the kewl thing about the Strat; it WILL corner well. Way better than the HD's I rode. Just need to tighten up a bit.


:killingme

:killingme

Well, it does! No, it ain't a BMW. However, I'm liking the big fat pig thing. :lol:

Well, it does! No, it ain't a BMW. However, I'm liking the big fat pig thing. :lol:

"better than a HD" isn't a rave review :lol:

The V Strom is my first non-cruiser. I've been able to outride the suspension on all of my previous bikes.

"better than a HD" isn't a rave review :lol:

The V Strom is my first non-cruiser. I've been able to outride the suspension on all of my previous bikes.

I gotta start somewhere and I am a LONG way from outriding the YZ.

Check out Traxxion Suspension: Motorcycle Suspension by Traxxion Dynamics (http://www.traxxion.com)

Check out Traxxion Suspension: Motorcycle Suspension by Traxxion Dynamics (http://www.traxxion.com)

So.... do you use that on the mast or the tiller? :popcorn:




sorry.... haven't had much sleep lately.....

I gotta start somewhere and I am a LONG way from outriding the YZ.

You'll be bottoming it out and scraping the floor boards by the end of summer

I paid no attention to any of the stuff you all are talking about and I've missed a lot of posts and stuff while gone and sick, but did Larry get a big boy bike and, if so, when he showing up down here on it? TIA..

Itsbob approaching in the not to distant future.

I LIKE it!!

State of Marland does have a law about how MANY lights you can have on a bike.. but since my flashing brake lights are already illegal...

I paid no attention to any of the stuff you all are talking about and I've missed a lot of posts and stuff while gone and sick, but did Larry get a big boy bike and, if so, when he showing up down here on it? TIA..

Now, I just need some big boy pants...

Larry's ride as seen from the other side.....

Larry's ride as seen from the other side.....

:lol: