St. Mary's County new cell phone policy states the cell phone must be off from the first bell to the last. Do you think the new policy will work? I asked because the kids I talked to said no. What do you think? As you know, kids these days can text, using the cell phone will keeping it completely out of sight. It doesn't sound like some kids know how serious St. Mary's County is about this new policy. At last they appear to be serious. Time will tell by next year.

Sounds like the same policy they use in Calvert Co. My son goes to Huntingtown High School and says they are very strict about it. I think he said they confiscate the phone for misuse but i don't know for how long.

12 years ago, when I was going to school here, cell phones were not allowed on school grounds. I think most parents would have a sh*t fit if that were the case today...but I applaud the schools for banning their use. Maybe some kids will get away w/txting and whatnot without being caught...but others WILL be caught and will serve as an example to either be more secretive or follow the rules.

And since a big part of school (unintentionally, of course) is learning when you can buck the rules :)...I think that falls in line w/what the kids would be learning anyway :)

i saw one thing that said they confiscate them and give them to the childs parent (they have to go to the school and pick it up) they don't give them back to the child. That is what I heard for here in stmarys county. Wouldn't that be a pain as most parents are still at work when the kids get home from school and school offices are closed by the time the parents get there to go it unless they take time off from work to go first thing in the morning.

Wouldn't that be a pain as most parents are still at work when the kids get home from school and school offices are closed by the time the parents get there to go it unless they take time off from work to go first thing in the morning.

It wouldn't be a pain if parents and children followed the rules.

Sometimes the best way to alter the behavior of kids----is inconvenience the parents---who should be making their kids behave anyway.

I think it is wrong to ban cells in school. We are a society that needs our IP to function. Without the phone, how will the kid know how to get to their next class? How will they know what is for lunch? How will they know when to get on the bus to go home? How will they know what the teacher's name is? A cell ban in school will be the ruination of our great nation!

St. Mary's County new cell phone policy states the cell phone must be off from the first bell to the last. Do you think the new policy will work? I asked because the kids I talked to said no. What do you think? As you know, kids these days can text, using the cell phone will keeping it completely out of sight. It doesn't sound like some kids know how serious St. Mary's County is about this new policy. At last they appear to be serious. Time will tell by next year.
In my daughters school the teachers have receivers that beep when any radio signal is being transmitted near it. If the kid texts, the receiver beeps and the teacher takes the phone.

Only takes a few animalistic children putting society in serious danger before the rest figure out that texting while learning can lead to extreme harm to those around them.

Not to mention that I can always go on line and check the times that the texting or calls were made. I don't need the teacher to stop my daughter from texting, I will take care of it as soon as I see it on the details.

Ok I can understand of children having a phone. But is it used in any of the courses of the day. Is really a necessity to have in the classroom and for the purpose of ???.

I admit it has been along time since I was in school. But What I see like going to a job interview is people younger than me using the phone to calulate equations or texting somebody else for the answer to a question they do not know or qualified to answer if they have to ask somebody else.
So with out the phone they become what? unknowledgable and have to depend on the phone to figure life challeneges. I feel sorry for them if the battery went dead

i saw one thing that said they confiscate them and give them to the childs parent (they have to go to the school and pick it up) they don't give them back to the child. That is what I heard for here in stmarys county. Wouldn't that be a pain as most parents are still at work when the kids get home from school and school offices are closed by the time the parents get there to go it unless they take time off from work to go first thing in the morning.Well, if the parent(s) can't get to the school, I guess the kid will go without until the parent can get to the school. Hopefully, the kid will think twice about breaking the rule if they're phoneless for a couple of days.


The SMCPS Policy is attached here....


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Not to mention that I can always go on line and check the times that the texting or calls were made. I don't need the teacher to stop my daughter from texting, I will take care of it as soon as I see it on the details.

If all the parents actually cared enough to make sure the child was appropriately using the phone then there would be no need for the ban in the fist place. The reality is, a lot of parents do not check.

The kids are in school to learn not to text or talk on the phone. If the parents need to speak with them they can call the school like they did in the "old days". There will be a number of kids who will take the phones out during the school day and get them taken away but most will probably learn after losing them a couple times. If my kid had their phone confiscated and I was inconvenienced by having to go claim it, I wouldn't be mad at the school. I'd be mad at my kid and wouldn't be in a huge rush to go get it from the school either.

As a teacher, I think I should be able to grade their texts for grammar and puncuation. Also, would it be okay for me to confiscate their cell phones and call their parents from it when they misbehave or don't do their homework? Could I video them misbehaving with their own phones and show it to the parents? Lastly, could I use my own phone to send them texts when they aren't doing their work?

As a teacher, I think I should be able to grade their texts for grammar and puncuation. Also, would it be okay for me to confiscate their cell phones and call their parents from it when they misbehave or don't do their homework? Could I video them misbehaving with their own phones and show it to the parents? Lastly, could I use my own phone to send them texts when they aren't doing their work?

Some how They would sue you LOL

As a teacher, I think I should be able to grade their texts for grammar and puncuation. Also, would it be okay for me to confiscate their cell phones and call their parents from it when they misbehave or don't do their homework? Could I video them misbehaving with their own phones and show it to the parents? Lastly, could I use my own phone to send them texts when they aren't doing their work?
as a teacher you certainly have the right to take the phone from the student while in your class, however if you were to refuse to return it to them at the end of the day, the situation might not end well for you.

lets say that something happens between the school and home and the student is left with no way to notify the parents.

personally, I would personally come into your class during school hours and retrieve the phone, regardless of what you claimed was the proper way to do it.

now if you take the phone, and call me from it and let me know that the child is going to be in detention after school for using the phone while in your class, we again have a different story and you might not want to watch the carnage of the child when I bust their ass for doing it.

According to one of my High School children, this policy has been around for at least two years. Look at the date: it was first implemented in 2001.
I did trip over a feature of ATT which allows you to shut down the phone of your choice for selected hours/days. Works like a charm. They can still call or text me, but nobody else unless they are on the allowed list.

(lol)

as a teacher you certainly have the right to take the phone from the student while in your class, however if you were to refuse to return it to them at the end of the day, the situation might not end well for you.


This is why we need guns in school as well - to settle any disputes and misunderstandings.

As a teacher, I think I should be able to grade their texts for grammar and puncuation. Also, would it be okay for me to confiscate their cell phones and call their parents from it when they misbehave or don't do their homework? Could I video them misbehaving with their own phones and show it to the parents? Lastly, could I use my own phone to send them texts when they aren't doing their work?

As a teacher, you should have read the 5th amendment by now...

"...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation"

According to one of my High School children, this policy has been around for at least two years. Look at the date: it was first implemented in 2001.
I did trip over a feature of ATT which allows you to shut down the phone of your choice for selected hours/days. Works like a charm. They can still call or text me, but nobody else unless they are on the allowed list.

Up until now, each school did things a little differently. This new policy (change) is because Dr M wanted things to be consistant across the school system.

as a teacher you certainly have the right to take the phone from the student while in your class, however if you were to refuse to return it to them at the end of the day, the situation might not end well for you.

lets say that something happens between the school and home and the student is left with no way to notify the parents.

personally, I would personally come into your class during school hours and retrieve the phone, regardless of what you claimed was the proper way to do it.

now if you take the phone, and call me from it and let me know that the child is going to be in detention after school for using the phone while in your class, we again have a different story and you might not want to watch the carnage of the child when I bust their ass for doing it.

That wouldn't do much good as it's the administraotrs who take custidy of the phone, not the teachers. You'd have to get the phone from the principal or an AP.

as a teacher you certainly have the right to take the phone from the student while in your class, however if you were to refuse to return it to them at the end of the day, the situation might not end well for you.

lets say that something happens between the school and home and the student is left with no way to notify the parents.
personally, I would personally come into your class during school hours and retrieve the phone, regardless of what you claimed was the proper way to do it.

now if you take the phone, and call me from it and let me know that the child is going to be in detention after school for using the phone while in your class, we again have a different story and you might not want to watch the carnage of the child when I bust their ass for doing it. We did without cell phones for a long time. Why do people feel that it is a necessity now? I see it when I'm driving all the time. People all ages, genders, etc. with a dayum cell phone slammed against the side of their head. One girl almost ran me down because she was talking on the phone, and at 5am in the morning, who the hell do they have to talk to that is so important?

We did without cell phones for a long time. Why do people feel that it is a necessity now? I see it when I'm driving all the time. People all ages, genders, etc. with a dayum cell phone slammed against the side of their head. One girl almost ran me down because she was talking on the phone, and at 5am in the morning, who the hell do they have to talk to that is so important?

I gotta go with that too. I have a cell that I carry all the time, but rarely use. If I get/make 1 call a week, that's alot.

And the comment you had about everyone with a cell slammed against their head..... I noticed that when I was at Solomons one evening. In the dwindling daylight, the glow of LCDs could be seen in the hand of almost every single person there. Most weren't even making a call, just holding it in their hand like some prized possession. Put the damn thing away and enjoy the reason you came to Solomons in the first place!

We did without cell phones for a long time. Why do people feel that it is a necessity now? I see it when I'm driving all the time. People all ages, genders, etc. with a dayum cell phone slammed against the side of their head. One girl almost ran me down because she was talking on the phone, and at 5am in the morning, who the hell do they have to talk to that is so important?
totally different world from when I grew up.

but as I have said, I gave up the cell phone years ago and refuse to own one for myself.

totally different world from when I grew up.

but as I have said, I gave up the cell phone years ago and refuse to own one for myself.If it wasn't for my son needing to call me, I wouldn't need to own one. But getting long distance calls without being charged is nice.

If it wasn't for my son needing to call me, I wouldn't need to own one. But getting long distance calls without being charged is nice.
daughter has hers for emergency use. So far in 3 years she has never used more that 30 minuts of time in any given month.

just turned texting on for her and Im thinking that texting causes some sort of viral condition in the person holding the phone... that 30 minute time record has been blown to hell.. thank God its unlimited.

I will however place time restrictions on the texting as soon as the school year starts again.

As a teacher, you should have read the 5th amendment by now...

"...nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation"
That's an injunction against the government, I'm not sure if it would apply to teachers.

That's an injunction against the government, I'm not sure if it would apply to teachers.

Public schools are an entity of the govt.

as a teacher you certainly have the right to take the phone from the student while in your class, however if you were to refuse to return it to them at the end of the day, the situation might not end well for you.

lets say that something happens between the school and home and the student is left with no way to notify the parents.

personally, I would personally come into your class during school hours and retrieve the phone, regardless of what you claimed was the proper way to do it.

now if you take the phone, and call me from it and let me know that the child is going to be in detention after school for using the phone while in your class, we again have a different story and you might not want to watch the carnage of the child when I bust their ass for doing it.

No, you don't have the right to confiscate student property as a teacher. Only administrators have the ability to do so, according to SMCPS policies.

as a teacher you certainly have the right to take the phone from the student while in your class, however if you were to refuse to return it to them at the end of the day, the situation might not end well for you.

lets say that something happens between the school and home and the student is left with no way to notify the parents.

personally, I would personally come into your class during school hours and retrieve the phone, regardless of what you claimed was the proper way to do it.

now if you take the phone, and call me from it and let me know that the child is going to be in detention after school for using the phone while in your class, we again have a different story and you might not want to watch the carnage of the child when I bust their ass for doing it.

And you do realize that doing so could result in you being arrested for trespassing?

If your child with your help is not going to follow the rules on cell phone use in school then the phone should be confiscated, it's what I'm going to do anyway once I get both sides of the story. :coffee:

And you do realize that doing so could result in you being arrested for trespassing?
yep, and you do realize that it would be followed up with a suit for theft?

yep, and you do realize that it would be followed up with a suit for theft?

...which would not survive summary judgement.

In my daughters school the teachers have receivers that beep when any radio signal is being transmitted near it. If the kid texts, the receiver beeps and the teacher takes the phone.:killingme - you fell for that one? :killingme

The policy is GREAT! Now just wish parents would be parents and grow a spine when it comes to their childrens cell phone use capabilities! Restrict who they can call at what time, times they can text, no picture sending etc.... The cell phones are disruptive to school and they are there to learn from the teacher we pay to be there!

as a teacher you certainly have the right to take the phone from the student while in your class, however if you were to refuse to return it to them at the end of the day, the situation might not end well for you.

lets say that something happens between the school and home and the student is left with no way to notify the parents.

personally, I would personally come into your class during school hours and retrieve the phone, regardless of what you claimed was the proper way to do it.

now if you take the phone, and call me from it and let me know that the child is going to be in detention after school for using the phone while in your class, we again have a different story and you might not want to watch the carnage of the child when I bust their ass for doing it.

:jerry: Depending which school you goto and carry out your little fit you are sooooo getting arrested! :doh::doh::dingding: Just saying.....

:jerry: Depending which school you goto and carry out your little fit you are sooooo getting arrested! :doh::doh::dingding: Just saying.....

Yep. It's required that visitors sign in at the school office. That's the law. If someone enters the biulding and goes directly to a classroom, they could be arrested.

...which would not survive summary judgement.

:buddies:

am i the only one who still does not see a valid reason for a child or teenager to have a cell phone? i graduated in '96 and we didn't have cell phones. and most of us are still alive. our parents didn't have cell phones when they were teenagers yet they managed to survive. why the hell do all these kids have cell phones? and before you say, so they can keep in touch with me. last time i checked most places had pay phones and any house they go to has a land line. all the cell phone really does is give them the ability to say they are going some place and then go somewhere else without you knowing.

am i the only one who still does not see a valid reason for a child or teenager to have a cell phone? i graduated in '96 and we didn't have cell phones. and most of us are still alive. our parents didn't have cell phones when they were teenagers yet they managed to survive. why the hell do all these kids have cell phones? and before you say, so they can keep in touch with me. last time i checked most places had pay phones and any house they go to has a land line. all the cell phone really does is give them the ability to say they are going some place and then go somewhere else without you knowing.

Well, I guess we could use your rational for a lot of things in years past.

Our parents didn't have TVs when they were teenagers yet they managed to survive.

Our parents didn't have radios when they were teenagers yet they managed to survive.

Our parents didn't have cars when they were teenagers yet they managed to survive.

ETC.



Point being that new technology develops as the years go by. When I was in high school, there was no Internet, at least not for the public. That doesn't mean I'm going to withhold that technology from my kids. You mentioned payphones and landlines. Both are on the decline. More and more homes are going without landlines. And I can't remeber the last time I saw a payphone. I'm sure they're out there but not llike they used to be. My kids have cell phones but they don't have them on during school. Despite having cell phones, they've managed to learn along the way. They even know how to capitalize at the beginning of each sentence.

My main problem with kids having cell phones in school is the transfer and viewing of porn, I mean hard core porn that would make a maggot vomit. With the memory available they can store thousands of images and short video clips of the most vile things women let men do to them. I've seen the phones and have witnessed the teacher giving it back to the student saying they probably got the stuff from their parent.

am i the only one who still does not see a valid reason for a child or teenager to have a cell phone? i graduated in '96 and we didn't have cell phones. and most of us are still alive. our parents didn't have cell phones when they were teenagers yet they managed to survive. why the hell do all these kids have cell phones? and before you say, so they can keep in touch with me. last time i checked most places had pay phones and any house they go to has a land line. all the cell phone really does is give them the ability to say they are going some place and then go somewhere else without you knowing.

There were pay phones everywhere. And you could call home for a dime or quarter when you needed a ride. Pay phones have given way to technology.

My main problem with kids having cell phones in school is the transfer and viewing of porn, I mean hard core porn that would make a maggot vomit. With the memory available they can store thousands of images and short video clips of the most vile things women let men do to them. I've seen the phones and have witnessed the teacher giving it back to the student saying they probably got the stuff from their parent.


That's an interesting assumption. If a teacher sees something like that, they should be contacting the parent instead of assuming.

haha That'd be great! When i taught in DC they didn't care what we did. I'd get my cell out and take pictures of students fighting in the hall or take video of students cussing me out. It stopped them pretty quick and helped me identify students I didn't know so I could write them up. I wouldn't try that anywhere but DC though...

As a teacher, I think I should be able to grade their texts for grammar and puncuation. Also, would it be okay for me to confiscate their cell phones and call their parents from it when they misbehave or don't do their homework? Could I video them misbehaving with their own phones and show it to the parents? Lastly, could I use my own phone to send them texts when they aren't doing their work?

Well, I guess we could use your rational for a lot of things in years past.

Our parents didn't have TVs when they were teenagers yet they managed to survive.

Our parents didn't have radios when they were teenagers yet they managed to survive.

Our parents didn't have cars when they were teenagers yet they managed to survive.

ETC.



Point being that new technology develops as the years go by. When I was in high school, there was no Internet, at least not for the public. That doesn't mean I'm going to withhold that technology from my kids. You mentioned payphones and landlines. Both are on the decline. More and more homes are going without landlines. And I can't remeber the last time I saw a payphone. I'm sure they're out there but not llike they used to be. My kids have cell phones but they don't have them on during school. Despite having cell phones, they've managed to learn along the way. They even know how to capitalize at the beginning of each sentence.

my apologies for not using capital letters at the beginning of my sentences, i am lazy at times and really do not like that shift key, it keeps giving me dirty looks. i did like your couple of comments about how our parents and their parents didn't have this or that when they were growing up and they survived. and i agree with the fact that as times change technology becomes more advanced and is adopted more easily by the younger generations (not that i'm old, only 31) but i still do not see a valid reason why a child should be taking a cell phone to school. my poor children are going to be outcast when they are teenagers because unless they have a job and are paying their own cell phone bill they aren't going to have one. and as for the TV, they won't have one of those either (at least not in their rooms). and the last time i checked there were still pay phones at all the schools.