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Nonno
07-20-2010, 09:28 AM
"The USDA's rural development director for Georgia says she was forced out of her federally appointed job after a "snippet" of a speech she gave in March appeared to show her admission to only half-heartedly aiding a struggling white farmer because of his race.
But in a phone interview from her home in Albany early Tuesday morning, Shirley Sherrod told the Atlanta-Journal Constitution that the two-minute, 38-second video posted online Monday by biggovernment.com and reported on by FoxNews.com and the AJC completely misconstrued the message she was trying to convey.
Sherrod, 62, insisted her statements in the video were not racist.
"For Fox to take a spin on this like they have done, and know it’s not the truth … it’s very upsetting," she said."
"In the video Sherrod, who is black, admits to the crowd at the NAACP banquet she didn't do everything she could to help a white farmer whom she said was condescending when he came to her for aid.
"What he didn't know while he was taking all that time trying to show me he was superior to me was, I was trying to decide just how much help I was going to give him," Sherrod said in the video recorded March 27 in Douglas in southeast Georgia.
"I was struggling with the fact that so many black people had lost their farmland, and here I was faced with having to help a white person save their land. So I didn't give him the full force of what I could do. I did enough."
But Tuesday morning, Sherrod said what online viewers weren't told in reports posted throughout the day Monday was that the tale she told at the banquet happened 24 years ago -- before she got the USDA job -- when she worked with the Georgia field office for the Federation of Southern Cooperative/Land Assistance Fund.
Sherrod said the short video clip excluded the breadth of the story about how she eventually worked with the man over a two-year period to help ward off foreclosure of his farm, and how she eventually became friends with him and his wife.
"And I went on to work with many more white farmers," she said. "The story helped me realize that race is not the issue, it's about the people who have and the people who don't. When I speak to groups, I try to speak about getting beyond the issue of race."
Sherrod said the farmer, Roger Spooner of Iron City, Ga., has since died."
More at: Resigned USDA official says racial story misconstrued #| ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/news/resigned-usda-official-says-574027.html)
Misconstrued on purpose? Now why would Faux News do that? :killingme
Oh. they got it from the Breitbart guys:
The Stage Right Show | (http://stagerightshow.com/)
Baja28
07-20-2010, 09:30 AM
:bs: If innocent, why did the racist resign?????
:bs: If innocent, why did the racist resign?????
:yeahthat: Sounds like Macaca to me.
Bay_Kat
07-20-2010, 09:43 AM
But Tuesday morning, Sherrod said what online viewers weren't told in reports posted throughout the day Monday was that the tale she told at the banquet happened 24 years ago -- before she got the USDA job -- when she worked with the Georgia field office for the Federation of Southern Cooperative/Land Assistance Fund.
What a bunch of :bs:
hvp05
07-20-2010, 09:54 AM
Nope. No way. Her intent is clear, especially given the audience and how they reacted.
Stupid idiot thinks she can back off it when anyone in a coma could understand what she did. :rolleyes:
Toxick
07-20-2010, 09:58 AM
"I was struggling with the fact that so many black people had lost their farmland, and here I was faced with having to help a white person save their land. So I didn't give him the full force of what I could do. I did enough."
Sounds racist to me.
And using your logic in the tea-party thread, since the USDA has a racist in it, it is a completely racist organization.
Yes?
BernieP
07-20-2010, 10:01 AM
:bs: If innocent, why did the racist resign?????
stupid honky, she's not a racist, she's black. Only white people can be racists.
Lenny
07-20-2010, 10:37 AM
But Tuesday morning, Sherrod said what online viewers weren't told in reports posted throughout the day Monday was that the tale she told at the banquet happened 24 years ago -- before she got the USDA job -- when she worked with the Georgia field office for the Federation of Southern Cooperative/Land Assistance Fund.
In other words, she's a lifelong bigot!
retiredweaxman
07-20-2010, 11:19 AM
In other words, she's a lifelong bigot!
If it worked that way for Mark Fuhrman in the OJ Simpson case (using the N word 10 years in the past), then it should work the same way for this woman.
Vince
07-20-2010, 11:26 AM
Nope. No way. Her intent is clear, especially given the audience and how they reacted.
Stupid idiot thinks she can back off it when anyone in a coma could understand what she did. :rolleyes: :yeahthat:
"I was struggling with the fact that so many black people had lost their farmland, and here I was faced with having to help a white person save their land. So I didn't give him the full force of what I could do. I did enough."
If she wasn't so worried about what color folks were that she was helping and just do her job, maybe more farmers would get the help they need.
Bay_Kat
07-20-2010, 11:33 AM
Shirley Sherrod says she was trying to tell a story about a lesson learned on race. Now, a video of her speech describing her work with a white farmer has cost her her job.
She's calling it a lesson.
hvp05
07-20-2010, 11:36 AM
In other words, she's a lifelong bigot!Interesting. 24 years ago, before she was employed by the USDA.
It would seem she should have fought harder for her [USDA] job then. :lol: And I'm sure that in the 24 years since that incident she acted with fairness and justice.
ImnoMensa
07-20-2010, 11:41 AM
Interesting. 24 years ago, before she was employed by the USDA.
It would seem she should have fought harder for her [USDA] job then. :lol: And I'm sure that in the 24 years since that incident she acted with fairness and justice.
It happened 24 years ago and she is still bragging about it to her black friends.
They all cheered her, would they cheer her if she had said she later became friends with this guy and helped him keep his farm? She used the story to receive accolades., but she isnt racist and neither are those who cheered her.
It's all Fox's fault. and Bush's fault too.
Just wait until all those afirmative action hires come about in the new Agency for Health care and people like this are deciding what health Care you are entitled to.
Nonno
07-20-2010, 11:47 AM
Stupid idiot thinks she can back off it when anyone in a coma could understand what she did. :rolleyes:
And that's where you clowns are in, a deep, deep coma! :killingme
Bay_Kat
07-20-2010, 11:56 AM
And that's where you clowns are in, a deep, deep coma! :killingme
Why would you even consider taking this woman's side? What she did was clearly wrong, whether it was yesterday or 24 years ago. She's a bigot and that's that. Does it bother you so bad to agree with others here that you would rather take someone's side no matter what wrong they've done?
hvp05
07-20-2010, 12:05 PM
Does it bother you so bad to agree with others here that you would rather take someone's side no matter what wrong they've done?It's all "D" vs. "R" to him. That's all that matters; right or wrong is irrelevant.
itsbob
07-20-2010, 12:16 PM
"The USDA's rural development director for Georgia says she was forced out of her federally appointed job after a "snippet" of a speech she gave in March appeared to show her admission to only half-heartedly aiding a struggling white farmer because of his race.
But in a phone interview from her home in Albany early Tuesday morning, Shirley Sherrod told the Atlanta-Journal Constitution that the two-minute, 38-second video posted online Monday by biggovernment.com and reported on by FoxNews.com and the AJC completely misconstrued the message she was trying to convey.
Sherrod, 62, insisted her statements in the video were not racist.
"For Fox to take a spin on this like they have done, and know it’s not the truth … it’s very upsetting," she said."
"In the video Sherrod, who is black, admits to the crowd at the NAACP banquet she didn't do everything she could to help a white farmer whom she said was condescending when he came to her for aid.
"What he didn't know while he was taking all that time trying to show me he was superior to me was, I was trying to decide just how much help I was going to give him," Sherrod said in the video recorded March 27 in Douglas in southeast Georgia.
"I was struggling with the fact that so many black people had lost their farmland, and here I was faced with having to help a white person save their land. So I didn't give him the full force of what I could do. I did enough."
But Tuesday morning, Sherrod said what online viewers weren't told in reports posted throughout the day Monday was that the tale she told at the banquet happened 24 years ago -- before she got the USDA job -- when she worked with the Georgia field office for the Federation of Southern Cooperative/Land Assistance Fund.
Sherrod said the short video clip excluded the breadth of the story about how she eventually worked with the man over a two-year period to help ward off foreclosure of his farm, and how she eventually became friends with him and his wife.
"And I went on to work with many more white farmers," she said. "The story helped me realize that race is not the issue, it's about the people who have and the people who don't. When I speak to groups, I try to speak about getting beyond the issue of race."
Sherrod said the farmer, Roger Spooner of Iron City, Ga., has since died."
More at: Resigned USDA official says racial story misconstrued #| ajc.com (http://www.ajc.com/news/resigned-usda-official-says-574027.html)
Misconstrued on purpose? Now why would Faux News do that? :killingme
Oh. they got it from the Breitbart guys:
The Stage Right Show | (http://stagerightshow.com/)
Easy enough to prove.. why didn't you link to the rest of the video??
You know, what some might call EVIDENCE to the statements you make.
Nonno
07-20-2010, 12:19 PM
Why would you even consider taking this woman's side? What she did was clearly wrong, whether it was yesterday or 24 years ago. She's a bigot and that's that. Does it bother you so bad to agree with others here that you would rather take someone's side no matter what wrong they've done?
Others want to see the whole video before passing judgement.....
"Nevertheless I am uncomfortable with this “get” by Breitbart. He writes:
In the first video, Sherrod describes how she racially discriminates against a white farmer. She describes how she is torn over how much she will choose to help him. And, she admits that she doesn’t do everything she can for him, because he is white. Eventually, her basic humanity informs that this white man is poor and needs help. But she decides that he should get help from “one of his own kind”. She refers him to a white lawyer.
Sherrod’s racist tale is received by the NAACP audience with nodding approval and murmurs of recognition and agreement. Hardly the behavior of the group now holding itself up as the supreme judge of another groups’ racial tolerance.
All true. The “glass houses” axiom is certainly getting a workout here. But the video ends so abruptly!
Sherrod, who is not an impressive public speaker, says she did not do all she could for the “poor white farmer” who she perceived to be somehow both asking for her help and simultaneously “trying to show me he was superior to me; I knew what he was doing…” She admits that she did just “enough” for the farmer so as to cover her own sense of accountability and then: “I took him to a white lawyer . . . I figured if I took him to one of them, then his own kind would take care of him.”
Yes, there is a bit of paranoid projection, there, and some shocking language–language that has been rightly rejected by society–that seems to play well to the audience. But then Sherrod apparently has a revelation. She begins to understand that “it’s about poor versus those who have, and not so much about white–it is about white and black–but you know it opened my eyes, because I took him to one of his own.”
Yes? AND?
Ed Morrissey writes:
Actually, if Sherrod had a different ending for this story, it could have been a good tale of redemption. She almost grasps this by initially noting that poverty is the real issue, which should be the moral of the anecdote. Instead of having acted on this realization — and perhaps mindful of the audience — Sherrod then backtracks and says that it’s really an issue of race after all.
And that’s what is troubling me.
Doesn’t it seem like, after all of that sort of winking, “you and I know how they really are” racist crap wherein Sherrod–intentionally or not–indicts her own narrow focus, she was heading to a more edifying message? What did it open her eyes about? Was she about to say “I took him to one of his own, but it shouldn’t have mattered about that; my job was to serve all the farmers who needed help.”
Was she about to say, “I learned about myself and about how far we still have to go?”
Was she about to say “it’s not poor vs those who have, because we are not at war, we are just in the same human reality that ever was?”
Was she about to say, “poor is poor, hungry is hungry and the past is the past when a family can’t eat?”
I want to know. Because it seemed like Sherrod was heading somewhere with that story, and the edit does not let us get there. I want the rest of the story before I start passing judgment on it."
More at: The Anchoress | A First Things Blog (http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/theanchoress/2010/07/19/the-breitbart-sherrod-tape/)
hvp05
07-20-2010, 12:30 PM
Others want to see the whole video before passing judgement.....If she was so kind-hearted, she shouldn't have had to think about what to do. :shrug:
And the all-loving NAACP audience should not have laughed and clapped at it either.
High-Def
07-20-2010, 12:37 PM
:bs: If innocent, why did the racist resign?????
I agree :cartwheel
hvp05
07-20-2010, 12:42 PM
Others want to see the whole video before passing judgement.....And then there's this thought: what if the rest of the video affirms her racism? Will you retract your defense?
edinsomd
07-20-2010, 12:48 PM
Misconstrued, out of context, whatever. I was waiting for this, and her blaming Fox News. Pathetic.
Nonno
07-20-2010, 01:07 PM
Misconstrued, out of context, whatever. I was waiting for this, and her blaming Fox News. Pathetic.
It's possible that you and the rest of these clowns are the "pathetic' ones.
http://forums.somd.com/news-current-events/210326-breitfart-s-folly.html
Iv4girlz
07-20-2010, 01:13 PM
WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE A WHITE OR BLACK FARMER? WHY CAN'T IT BE JUST FARMER?:coffee::whistle:
hvp05
07-20-2010, 02:39 PM
It's possible that you and the rest of these clowns are the "pathetic' ones.Stuck at "it's possible...". You are the master of the link; if something exists on the Net, even on the most remote blog, you seem to be able to dig it up.
So where is the rest of the video that suddenly shows that she is not so bad after all? She should have released it by now, right? Or the NAACP? Anyone in the crowd who was filming? Anyone?
Regardless of what develops hence, the fact remains that you will jump at the chance to criticize those you don't like no matter how feeble the evidence, meanwhile you defend your fellow Ds no matter how strong the evidence.
Nonno
07-20-2010, 03:16 PM
Regardless of what develops hence, the fact remains that you will jump at the chance to criticize those you don't like no matter how feeble the evidence, meanwhile you defend your fellow Ds no matter how strong the evidence.
Sounds just like the "pathetic" right wing nuts who post their strawman drivel doesn't it? But that's OK 'cause they're always right no matter what the facts are. :killingme
TurboK9
07-20-2010, 03:25 PM
Sounds just like the "pathetic" right wing nuts who post their strawman drivel doesn't it? But that's OK 'cause they're always right no matter what the facts are. :killingme
I was thinking more along the lines of how the left likes to demonize anyone connected with the right, but when a lefty finds themselves in the same position, it's all good....
Kinda like how the Tea Party backs many minority candidates and yet the left brands them as racists...
hvp05
07-20-2010, 03:29 PM
Sounds just like the "pathetic" right wing nuts who post their strawman drivel doesn't it? But that's OK 'cause they're always right no matter what the facts are.I don't consider myself one of those.
And you are playing into the old "Well if you're going to do it, so am I!" I guess that provides some temporary boost to your self-esteem to blindly insult others, even if you turn directly around and act the same way. You must have jumped off a lot of bridges as a kid. :rolleyes:
Nonno
07-20-2010, 03:40 PM
I don't consider myself one of those.
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Yet you have no qualms about jumping onboard.
hvp05
07-20-2010, 03:47 PM
Yet you have no qualms about jumping onboard.Actually, I'm jumping on board with your statement in the other thread (http://forums.somd.com/news-current-events/210328-breitbart-s-sherrod-naacp-story-disintegrates.html)... looks like she got shafted by Obama's WH and the NAACP. They were extremely critical of the video, which is what cost her her job - not what anyone here said.
I may still hold Sherrod's statements in skepticism, but the farmer's wife seems to be fully on Sherrod's side so that part seems acceptable.
TurboK9
07-20-2010, 04:23 PM
WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE A WHITE OR BLACK FARMER? WHY CAN'T IT BE JUST FARMER?:coffee::whistle:
Because there are no black farmers. Didn't you ever watch "The Jerk"? They're called share croppers.
Damn I'm a racist SOB. Good thing I don't work for the gubbamin'!!
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