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BadCat
10-28-2010, 11:54 AM
I saw this on John Mattingly (http://johnmattingly.com)'s Facebook Page today:

I got him! & I have the proof! On 2 separate occasions (1989 & 2009)
Fritz has withheld exculpatory evidence in trials before the Circuit Court.
Once is a mistake, but twice denotes a 'Practice or Policy' and this time I am not going to lay down.

A $100 million dollar lawsuit in the Federal courts already has the Attorney General's Office representing 3 MD State Troopers up against a wall, and now I have the PROOF to bring a separate multi-million dollar lawsuit against Fritz and and the State Police of the Leonardtown Barracks
for withholding evidence in violation of Brady v. Maryland.

Watch out Fritz here I come!

I don't even think this guy is talking about the multi-million dollar federal law suit that mattingly will file against Fritz.

Do any fritz supporters want to address THIS issue so we can hear both sides of the story? I anticipate the issue will be dodged and you will simply reply with copy and paste 'where's the loot' propaganda.

God Bless America and St. Mary's County!

CleanTheSlateInSMC
10-28-2010, 12:27 PM
I saw this on John Mattingly (http://johnmattingly.com)'s Facebook Page today:

I got him! & I have the proof! On 2 separate occasions (1989 & 2009)
Fritz has withheld exculpatory evidence in trials before the Circuit Court.
Once is a mistake, but twice denotes a 'Practice or Policy' and this time I am not going to lay down.

A $100 million dollar lawsuit in the Federal courts already has the Attorney General's Office representing 3 MD State Troopers up against a wall, and now I have the PROOF to bring a separate multi-million dollar lawsuit against Fritz and and the State Police of the Leonardtown Barracks
for withholding evidence in violation of Brady v. Maryland.

Watch out Fritz here I come!

I don't even think this guy is talking about the multi-million dollar federal law suit that mattingly will file against Fritz.

Do any fritz supporters want to address THIS issue so we can hear both sides of the story? I anticipate the issue will be dodged and you will simply reply with copy and paste 'where's the loot' propaganda.

God Bless America and St. Mary's County!

I believe this was posted by William R. Mesmer, another of Mattingly's friends who has been repeatedly arrested for drugs, assault, weapons, and drunk driving. Check out his record on MD Judiciary Casesearch Maryland Judiciary Case Search (http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiry-index.jsp)

No doubt he has a problem with the current prosecutor, and would LOVE for his friend to take over.

FOCUSFACTS
10-28-2010, 12:30 PM
I saw this on John Mattingly (http://johnmattingly.com)'s Facebook Page today:

I got him! & I have the proof! On 2 separate occasions (1989 & 2009)
Fritz has withheld exculpatory evidence in trials before the Circuit Court.
Once is a mistake, but twice denotes a 'Practice or Policy' and this time I am not going to lay down.

A $100 million dollar lawsuit in the Federal courts already has the Attorney General's Office representing 3 MD State Troopers up against a wall, and now I have the PROOF to bring a separate multi-million dollar lawsuit against Fritz and and the State Police of the Leonardtown Barracks
for withholding evidence in violation of Brady v. Maryland.

Watch out Fritz here I come!

I don't even think this guy is talking about the multi-million dollar federal law suit that mattingly will file against Fritz.

Do any fritz supporters want to address THIS issue so we can hear both sides of the story? I anticipate the issue will be dodged and you will simply reply with copy and paste 'where's the loot' propaganda.

God Bless America and St. Mary's County!

Your source is John Mattingly, that explains everything. John Mattingly also says he is innocent. Like anyone accused of criminal charges, most deny and come up with bogus information; even after convicted. Mr. Brown still claims he's innocent and doesn't believe he did anything wrong and correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Mr. Mattingly also state to the local Enterprise that he also believed Daniel Brown was falsely imprisoned. The problem is no matter how much Mr. Mattingly puts out there, he can't change what he's already done. He can't change what the public knows about him and the company he keeps on his right side. The damage is done and he is showing no remorse by denial.

FOCUSFACTS
10-28-2010, 12:35 PM
I believe this was posted by William R. Mesmer, another of Mattingly's friends who has been repeatedly arrested for drugs, assault, weapons, and drunk driving. Check out his record on MD Judiciary Casesearch Maryland Judiciary Case Search (http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiry-index.jsp)

No doubt he has a problem with the current prosecutor, and would LOVE for his friend to take over.

No doubt, this guy is crazy. Wow, how many are there?

BadCat
10-28-2010, 12:40 PM
FocusFacts,

Yes I stated my source was John Mattingly's website. I was not hiding this, it was the first line of my post.

I was looking for more information about the federal lawsuits this person was talking about. Do these lawsuits exist or is this guy just blowing steam?

It seems there are and have been several federal lawsuits against fritz for constitutional rights infringement and more coming.

I know your stance on mattingly, but I do not want my constitutional rights tampered with, especially not by law enforcement officials.

I actually think it would be better for the county for mattingly to win the state's attorney's race. If he looses he will file a federal suit against fritz, most likely win and could bankrupt our great county.

Its happened already before...

FOCUSFACTS
10-28-2010, 12:53 PM
FocusFacts,

Yes I stated my source was John Mattingly's website. I was not hiding this, it was the first line of my post.

I was looking for more information about the federal lawsuits this person was talking about. Do these lawsuits exist or is this guy just blowing steam?

It seems there are and have been several federal lawsuits against fritz for constitutional rights infringement and more coming.

I know your stance on mattingly, but I do not want my constitutional rights tampered with, especially not by law enforcement officials.

I actually think it would be better for the county for mattingly to win the state's attorney's race. If he looses he will file a federal suit against fritz, most likely win and could bankrupt our great county.

Its happened already before...

Do you really think Mattingly has grounds to file a lawsuit against Fritz when Judge Sean Wallace stated that Mattingly was the mastermind. If you don't want your constitutional rights infringed, then you better wait until Mattingly's cleared by the FEDS and the upcoming civil cases are concluded. Mattingly is constantly threatening lawsuits, he did the same thing to me to get me to stop talking about what he's done. THREATS my friend, no more, it's time to fight back for what's right. I will fight for St. Mary's County and it's top officials.

JusticeMatters
10-28-2010, 01:08 PM
Good grief! The sky is falling, Rick Fritz is the devil..... Same old stuff...Everyone is gonna get sued... I am voting for Richard Fritz because when all the smoke clears, he has done a great job over the last 12 years. John Mattingly is still defending his business partner who an indepedent judge stated was corrupt, that they (Team Mattingly & Brown) acted corruptly together to steal land of others.

Now, I didn't get my facts from any websites or out of my rear end, I looked at all the facts and made a decision based on what I saw and what I know.

BadCat
10-28-2010, 01:37 PM
Thanks for the perspective Justice Matters and Focus Facts.

Neither of you answered the question though about the $100 million law suit referred to in the beginning of the post. I just wanted to know if this was a real suit and how Fritz was involved.

I am simply trying to learn more about the candidates. I think reading their web pages is the best place to find this information. I do not feel I should be personally attacked for speaking on this forum. No wonder so few people speak up on here.

It is very difficult to determine the truth on these forums. I believe if a candidate is willing to put the information on their website there must be some truth to it.

It is true that judge wallace said what he said about mattingly, but

Is it not also true that Chief Federal Judge Wilkinson stated that Fritz had actually engaged in criminal conduct and compared his political tactics to the terror tactics of the KKK.
Is this a true fact: YES OR NO?

these are two different judges opinions. In mattingly's case, all of the charges were dropped because the prosecutor felt the evidence was manufactured. In fritz's case, they settled and cost the county $500,000. I'm not sure why criminal charges weren't brought against fritz if a federal judge stated fritz engaged in criminal conduct.

Either way here are two different judges opinions about two different candidates. The fritz supporters here REFUSE to address judge Wilkinson's opinions and give an explanation.

Mattingly's explanation is pretty simple -- he was the target of a politically motivated witch hunt to discredit him.

IMO: Attacking your voters isn't a good way to win an election. All you do is alienate them. The Fritz crowd on here really comes off like a gang of bullies, you aren't doing your candidate any favors.

JusticeMatters
10-28-2010, 01:46 PM
Good grief. I noticed after Clem and Themis got banned that BadCat shows up. Again, GOOD GRIEF!!! Official member since October 2010! Hey, I am a Fritz supporter, no doubt about it. I know Mattingly too well to vote for him.

BadCat
10-28-2010, 01:47 PM
Good grief. I noticed after Clem and Themis got banned that BadCat shows up. Again, GOOD GRIEF!!! Official member since October 2010! Hey, I am a Fritz supporter, no doubt about it. I know Mattingly too well to vote for him.

Ok so you should know the answer to this question then. Is this statement true:

Is it not also true that Chief Federal Judge Wilkinson stated that Fritz had actually engaged in criminal conduct and compared his political tactics to the terror tactics of the KKK.
Is this a true fact: YES OR NO?

CleanTheSlateInSMC
10-28-2010, 01:48 PM
Thanks for the perspective Justice Matters and Focus Facts.

Neither of you answered the question though about the $100 million law suit referred to in the beginning of the post. I just wanted to know if this was a real suit and how Fritz was involved.

I am simply trying to learn more about the candidates. I think reading their web pages is the best place to find this information. I do not feel I should be personally attacked for speaking on this forum. No wonder so few people speak up on here.

It is very difficult to determine the truth on these forums. I believe if a candidate is willing to put the information on their website there must be some truth to it.

It is true that judge wallace said what he said about mattingly, but

Is it not also true that Chief Federal Judge Wilkinson stated that Fritz had actually engaged in criminal conduct and compared his political tactics to the terror tactics of the KKK.
Is this a true fact: YES OR NO?

these are two different judges opinions. In mattingly's case, all of the charges were dropped because the prosecutor felt the evidence was manufactured. In fritz's case, they settled and cost the county $500,000. I'm not sure why criminal charges weren't brought against fritz if a federal judge stated fritz engaged in criminal conduct.

Either way here are two different judges opinions about two different candidates. The fritz supporters here REFUSE to address judge Wilkinson's opinions and give an explanation.

Mattingly's explanation is pretty simple -- he was the target of a politically motivated witch hunt to discredit him.

IMO: Attacking your voters isn't a good way to win an election. All you do is alienate them. The Fritz crowd on here really comes off like a gang of bullies, you aren't doing your candidate any favors.

I don't support either one of these guys. I think they're both low-lifes.

You keep quoting propaganda from Mattingly's website like it's a fact, and now you're quoting Mattingly's friend, William Mesmer, a habitual criminal with an arrest record a mile long! Voters like you are the reason negative campaigning works.

The-TRUTH
10-28-2010, 01:51 PM
I believe this was posted by William R. Mesmer, another of Mattingly's friends who has been repeatedly arrested for drugs, assault, weapons, and drunk driving. Check out his record on MD Judiciary Casesearch Maryland Judiciary Case Search (http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiry-index.jsp)

No doubt he has a problem with the current prosecutor, and would LOVE for his friend to take over.


You would think that he loved Fritz! His recoed is full of Nolle Pros and stet. But then Mattingly was his attorney on those! HA Ha

cjar87
10-28-2010, 01:53 PM
Why don't you Google it and post the results?

The-TRUTH
10-28-2010, 01:57 PM
Ok so you should know the answer to this question then. Is this statement true:

Is it not also true that Chief Federal Judge Wilkinson stated that Fritz had actually engaged in criminal conduct and compared his political tactics to the terror tactics of the KKK.
Is this a true fact: YES OR NO?

Answer this Is it true that a Federal Judge has already thrown out one of Mattinglys attempted lawsuits against SA office. ANSWER: YES

The-TRUTH
10-28-2010, 01:59 PM
Answer this Is it true that a Federal Judge has already thrown out one of Mattinglys attempted lawsuits against SA office. ANSWER: YES


I stand corrected US court of Appeals Sorry My mistake!


John Mattingly, Jr. v. Richard Fritz
Share | Defendant - Appellees: RICHARD D. FRITZ, In His Official Capacity as State's Attorney St. Mary's County, DANIEL J. WHITE, In His Official Capacity as Assistant State's Attorney St. Mary's County, ST. MARY'S COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, by and Through, DANIEL ALIOTO, Captain, of Sheriff Narcotics Unit, In His Official Capacity as A representative of the St. Mary's County Sheriff Office, SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES 1-30, Unknown In their individual and official capacities, TIMOTHY K. CAMERON, In His Official Capacity as Sheriff and In His Representative Capacity of the St. Mary's County Sheriff's Office and BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR ST. MARY'S COUNTY, MARYLAND
Plaintiff - Appellant: JOHN ANDREW MATTINGLY, JR.

Case Number: 10-1329
Filed: March 26, 2010

Court: U.S. Court of Appeals, Fourth Circuit

Nature of Suit: Civil Rights - Other Civil Rights

Previous Case: Mattingly v. Fritz et al (8:2009cv02917

BadCat
10-28-2010, 02:04 PM
Ok so you should know the answer to this question then. Is this statement true:

Is it not also true that Chief Federal Judge Wilkinson stated that Fritz had actually engaged in criminal conduct and compared his political tactics to the terror tactics of the KKK.
Is this a true fact: YES OR NO?

I will assume based on the unwillingness of the Fritz supporters to address this simple question that it is in fact true.

There is so much anger and hatred here. It is very sad. I will pray for you all.

CleanTheSlateInSMC
10-28-2010, 02:05 PM
I stand corrected US court of Appeals Sorry My mistake!


John Mattingly, Jr. v. Richard Fritz
Share | Defendant - Appellees: RICHARD D. FRITZ, In His Official Capacity as State's Attorney St. Mary's County, DANIEL J. WHITE, In His Official Capacity as Assistant State's Attorney St. Mary's County, ST. MARY'S COUNTY SHERIFF'S OFFICE, by and Through, DANIEL ALIOTO, Captain, of Sheriff Narcotics Unit, In His Official Capacity as A representative of the St. Mary's County Sheriff Office, SHERIFF'S DEPUTIES 1-30, Unknown In their individual and official capacities, TIMOTHY K. CAMERON, In His Official Capacity as Sheriff and In His Representative Capacity of the St. Mary's County Sheriff's Office and BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS FOR ST. MARY'S COUNTY, MARYLAND
Plaintiff - Appellant: JOHN ANDREW MATTINGLY, JR.

Case Number: 10-1329
Filed: March 26, 2010

Court: U.S. Court of Appeals, Fourth Circuit

Nature of Suit: Civil Rights - Other Civil Rights

Previous Case: Mattingly v. Fritz et al (8:2009cv02917

IF elected, how could John work effectively with Sheriff Cameron and his staff when he's trying to sue them?

CleanTheSlateInSMC
10-28-2010, 02:08 PM
I will pray for you all.

Go thump a bible.:biteme:

The-TRUTH
10-28-2010, 02:09 PM
I will assume based on the unwillingness of the Fritz supporters to address this simple question that it is in fact true.

There is so much anger and hatred here. It is very sad. I will pray for you all.


Not sure. Why dont you show me the reference?

BadCat
10-28-2010, 02:10 PM
IF elected, how could John work effectively with Sheriff Cameron and his staff when he's trying to sue them?

I can not speak for John, but I would imagine when John is elected he will forgive and forget.

If I had to guess, I don't think john has a beef with Sheriff Cameron per-se. His beef is with Fritz.

All you have to do is look at the time line of when john announced his intentions to run for office and when the grand jury investigation against him started.

In my mind -- its pretty cut and dry (obvious) that john was a political target. This is a violation of constitutional rights. It seems this would not be the first time such rights have been violated in our county. A pattern of behavior with our current SA is apparent.

Its time for change.

The-TRUTH
10-28-2010, 02:11 PM
IF elected, how could John work effectively with Sheriff Cameron and his staff when he's trying to sue them?

Exactly! There still is another civil case pending involving the same people along with a civilian. Great!

Gilligan
10-28-2010, 02:13 PM
I will assume based on the unwillingness of the Fritz supporters to address this simple question that it is in fact true.

There is so much anger and hatred here. It is very sad. I will pray for you all.

Always bad assumptions, ones like that.

But fortunately there really is nobody in this forum that cares what you trolls post any more. We've all had our fill of watching some really clueless, barely literate and very clumsy shills from both sides play their amateur mud slinging game with each other. At first is was amusing and all of the shills are easy to taunt..and fun to taunt. But that got old too. Now I'm just looking forward to next Wednesday and the end of the Mattingly-Fritz troll-fest amateur hour.

:coffee:

CleanTheSlateInSMC
10-28-2010, 02:14 PM
Exactly! There still is another civil case pending involving the same people along with a civilian. Great!

Personally, I hope John loses the election, wins a suit against Fritz, forcing him to resign so he can be replaced by someone other than Mattingly. Neither of these low-lifes should be SA.

Gilligan
10-28-2010, 02:15 PM
Personally, I hope John loses the election, wins a suit against Fritz, forcing him to resign so he can be replaced by someone other than Mattingly. Neither of these low-lifes should be SA.

x2 dat

FOCUSFACTS
10-28-2010, 02:17 PM
I will assume based on the unwillingness of the Fritz supporters to address this simple question that it is in fact true.

There is so much anger and hatred here. It is very sad. I will pray for you all.

The only person who needs to defend himself is Mr. Mattingly. Themis came on here months ago and started what your trying to do Bad_Cat. Didn't work for THEMIS. The only person unwilling to listen is you concerning Mr. Mattingly.

Fritz's issues have already been addressed, as far as the rape - found NOT GUILTY but you're still calling him a rapist. So why would we continue, when no matter what the facts are, bad_cat continues to support a lawyer under investigation who currently has civil cases against him for the land deals he conducted with Daniel Brown who is now in Prison.

JusticeMatters
10-28-2010, 04:08 PM
BadCat sounds exactly like MegaHurts/MegaMattingly... Hmm... I can't speak for Mattingly, but I will call him and let you know his answer. Maybe BadCat can... check THEFACEBOOK. Evidentally, there is alot of "RELIABLE" information there.:sarcasm::sarcasm:

CleanTheSlateInSMC
10-28-2010, 04:15 PM
Heres The -TRUTH about Mattingly and Mesmer
Mattingly represented Mesmer twice, on 10/28/1999 mesmer was found guilty of sec degree assault got a 10 day sup. sentence
case # 2Q00013519
On 12/30/2004 Mesmer was convicted on CDS Paraphenalia and got a $500.00 fine case #0Q00028063
Those were the only times Mattingly is shown as the attorney of record.
Mesmer couldn't afford the price for getting charges placed on the stet docket.

The criminal element in St. Mary's County certainly loves John Mattingly and wants him as SA.

BadCat
10-28-2010, 05:15 PM
You all wonder why mattingly supporters won't post on this board.

Its because the bullies here will attack you, make lies about you, tell you you're stupid etc. Most honest people in this county are afraid to speak up on this board against fritz, because they are afraid the secret police will show up at their house in the dead of night, haul them off to jail. Make fake charges against them. Who wants to risk going to jail for a political candidate?

You all operate with terror tactics and hate. You abuse the powers that have been given to you by the voters. You abuse the constitution. You know what you are doing and its obviously working for you. You laugh behind your computers. It shows. The voters can see this too.

I don't get down to that level folks. I understand where 'you all' are coming from here.

I'm not here to engage in a debate with fritz supporters, or turn you over to the mattingly camp. I'm not here to go back and forth with personal attacks that are nothing but diversionary tactics.

I do realize there are still a lot of people who lurk on this board and read it and I'm hear to speak to those people. I am here to let the voters know what this election is all about and what fritz is all about.

Lukers do pay attention. They notice that the Fritz supporters here can not counter one claim made by clem shady or themis or mattingly or any of the other people on this board who are courageous enough to speak the truth.

CleanTheSlateInSMC
10-28-2010, 06:07 PM
I suppose it doesn't matter to you that Fritz's corruption is killing people in St Mary's Co.

Who exactly has been killed by Fritz? :cds:

First of all, as I've stated before, I don't think either candidate is fit for office. If Fritz is as corrupt as you say, then I hope he will be removed and replaced with a respectable alternative to Fritz and Mattingly. I don't trust either of them.

Mattingly has engaged in sleazy business practices with criminals, and he is not endorsed by the cops or any other civic organization. I have no confidence that he can work effectively with the law enforcement community, judges, or the existing SA staff.

CleanTheSlateInSMC
10-28-2010, 06:14 PM
You all wonder why mattingly supporters won't post on this board. Its because the bullies here will attack you, make lies about you, tell you you're stupid etc. Most honest people in this county are afraid to speak up on this board against fritz, because they are afraid the secret police will show up at their house in the dead of night, haul them off to jail. Make fake charges against them. Who wants to risk going to jail for a political candidate? You all operate with terror tactics and hate. You abuse the powers that have been given to you by the voters. You abuse the constitution.

:cds:

You really need to turn off your computer and take your medication!

FromTexas
10-28-2010, 06:17 PM
I saw this on John Mattingly (http://johnmattingly.com)'s Facebook Page today:

I got him! & I have the proof! On 2 separate occasions (1989 & 2009)
Fritz has withheld exculpatory evidence in trials before the Circuit Court.
Once is a mistake, but twice denotes a 'Practice or Policy' and this time I am not going to lay down.

A $100 million dollar lawsuit in the Federal courts already has the Attorney General's Office representing 3 MD State Troopers up against a wall, and now I have the PROOF to bring a separate multi-million dollar lawsuit against Fritz and and the State Police of the Leonardtown Barracks
for withholding evidence in violation of Brady v. Maryland.

Watch out Fritz here I come!

I don't even think this guy is talking about the multi-million dollar federal law suit that mattingly will file against Fritz.

Do any fritz supporters want to address THIS issue so we can hear both sides of the story? I anticipate the issue will be dodged and you will simply reply with copy and paste 'where's the loot' propaganda.

God Bless America and St. Mary's County!

Where's the proof? It just says I have the proof. A lawsuit is also not proof of anything. There was that 'psychic woman' who tried to sure Home Depot because she hit her head and lost her psychic ability - it didn't make it true.

So - there's your discussion. Show us the proof if someone has it.

Annoying_Boy
11-02-2010, 09:19 AM
Vote Fritz out today!

:yahoo:

The-TRUTH
11-02-2010, 10:24 AM
Vote Fritz in today!

:yahoo:

Amen!!

itsbob
11-02-2010, 10:29 AM
I can not speak for John, but I would imagine when John is elected he will forgive and forget.

.
So in it's simplest terms this is extortion.

He'll sue everybody, and continue to file lawsuits UNLESS we elect him or support him..

Wow, what a guy.. just the type that I want to be State's Attorney..

dontknowwhy
11-02-2010, 03:34 PM
I believe this was posted by William R. Mesmer, another of Mattingly's friends who has been repeatedly arrested for drugs, assault, weapons, and drunk driving. Check out his record on MD Judiciary Casesearch Maryland Judiciary Case Search (http://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/inquiry/inquiry-index.jsp)

No doubt he has a problem with the current prosecutor, and would LOVE for his friend to take over.

he's the same guy that claimed the mafia killed his girlfriend & dumped her body in 1 of our rivers...he's an idiot.

Lexib_
11-02-2010, 05:52 PM
Your source is John Mattingly, that explains everything. John Mattingly also says he is innocent. Like anyone accused of criminal charges, most deny and come up with bogus information; even after convicted. Mr. Brown still claims he's innocent and doesn't believe he did anything wrong and correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Mr. Mattingly also state to the local Enterprise that he also believed Daniel Brown was falsely imprisoned. The problem is no matter how much Mr. Mattingly puts out there, he can't change what he's already done. He can't change what the public knows about him and the company he keeps on his right side. The damage is done and he is showing no remorse by denial.

If he was guilty of these charges why did the PG prosecutor drop the charges?

tom88
11-02-2010, 07:01 PM
If he was guilty of these charges why did the PG prosecutor drop the charges?

Same reason many of the Prince Georges County Prosecutors drop charges. They are lazy. Don't believe me, ask a P.G. County Cop.

Lexib_
11-02-2010, 07:31 PM
Same reason many of the Prince Georges County Prosecutors drop charges. They are lazy. Don't believe me, ask a P.G. County Cop.

:bs:

In the circumstances that the prosecutor got the case I highly doubt it had to do with laziness. If that was the case why prosecute Brown? So that leads me to think that there was no evidence and that it was all political. Why was Fritz all nonchalant about it.. Because he knew it was all bs.

tom88
11-03-2010, 11:36 AM
:bs:

In the circumstances that the prosecutor got the case I highly doubt it had to do with laziness. If that was the case why prosecute Brown? So that leads me to think that there was no evidence and that it was all political. Why was Fritz all nonchalant about it.. Because he knew it was all bs.

If you look at this closely, what you will see is the prosecutor in the Brown case actually didn't prosecute Brown. She dropped a lot of the charges against him, and agreed to a deal where she would not argue against a sentence of thirty days with work release.

Fortunately, the judge saw through that, and said it was a horrible sentence for a horrible crime. He sentenced him to ten years, suspending it down to two years and thirty days.

See, the prosecutor was again being lazy. She went for the easy deal. She didn't try Mattingly because that would have been hard, and he had already beat her once.

JOKER
11-03-2010, 12:46 PM
An AZZ WHOOPIN' !!!!!!

Ye Haw Ha! Ha! :yahoo:

tom88
11-03-2010, 01:05 PM
Isabel Cumming brought three people from her staff to St Mary's to work Fritz, and Whites case against Mattingly. What did she find?
She found out that White had hidden evidence, he had coached witness's on how to testify, he had witness's commit perjury at the grand jury, and at the trial, she found out that all of the evidence the state had against Mattingly was manufactured, or tainted.
Ms Cumming wasn't lazy. She was honest.


Well, by that logic, she has broad powers as a special prosecutor. Why then, if she is so honest and found what you say she found, she hasn't indicted White on obstruction, or witness tampering?

Why then, if she is so honest and hard working did she agree to a plea which the judge rejected and gave the guy an additional two years for?

The-TRUTH
11-03-2010, 01:11 PM
Well, by that logic, she has broad powers as a special prosecutor. Why then, if she is so honest and found what you say she found, she hasn't indicted White on obstruction, or witness tampering?

Why then, if she is so honest and hard working did she agree to a plea which the judge rejected and gave the guy an additional two years for?


Now that all of the political witch hunt Bullsh!t is over with sit back and watch what happens The-Truth always prevails!!
Read My signature!!!

The-TRUTH
11-03-2010, 01:19 PM
Brown got sentenced to 2 years for having his secretary notorize a document that he witnessed. If he had notorized it himself there would have been no charge for conspiracy to falsley affix a notary seal.
That's the horrible crime Brown was guilty of. A misdemeanor.
Meanwhile Terry Clarke who was facing 70 yrs for Assault and Gun violations by a convicted felon is now looking at 30 days according to the deal he made with Fritz. Bubba Scriber, another convicted Drug Felon, and life long criminal who confessed to a cold case murder is walking the streets after a pea deal with Fritz. Robert Short a Convicted drug fellon made a plea deal with Fritz, and is walking the street. What price did St. Mary's County pay for Fritz to stay in office?
Isabel Cumming brought three people from her staff to St Mary's to work Fritz, and Whites case against Mattingly. What did she find?
She found out that White had hidden evidence, he had coached witness's on how to testify, he had witness's commit perjury at the grand jury, and at the trial, she found out that all of the evidence the state had against Mattingly was manufactured, or tainted.
Ms Cumming wasn't lazy. She was honest.
Something we're not used to in St Mary's County when it comes to a prosecutor.

What was the plea that short made??

The-TRUTH
11-03-2010, 01:22 PM
An AZZ WHOOPIN' !!!!!!

Ye Haw Ha! Ha! :yahoo:


:yeahthat::yeahthat:

Merlin99
11-03-2010, 01:34 PM
Brown got sentenced to 2 years for having his secretary notorize a document that he witnessed. If he had notorized it himself there would have been no charge for conspiracy to falsley affix a notary seal.
That's the horrible crime Brown was guilty of. A misdemeanor.
Meanwhile Terry Clarke who was facing 70 yrs for Assault and Gun violations by a convicted felon is now looking at 30 days according to the deal he made with Fritz. Bubba Scriber, another convicted Drug Felon, and life long criminal who confessed to a cold case murder is walking the streets after a pea deal with Fritz. Robert Short a Convicted drug fellon made a plea deal with Fritz, and is walking the street. What price did St. Mary's County pay for Fritz to stay in office?
Isabel Cumming brought three people from her staff to St Mary's to work Fritz, and Whites case against Mattingly. What did she find?
She found out that White had hidden evidence, he had coached witness's on how to testify, he had witness's commit perjury at the grand jury, and at the trial, she found out that all of the evidence the state had against Mattingly was manufactured, or tainted.
Ms Cumming wasn't lazy. She was honest.
Something we're not used to in St Mary's County when it comes to a prosecutor.
The technical term for that is fraud.

FOCUSFACTS
11-03-2010, 01:51 PM
Answer this.
If Fritz and White had such a strong case against Mattingly.Why did Fritz ask for a Special Prosecutor to be appointed within days of Mattingly's lawyer asking the court to prohibit Daniel White from Influencing Grand Jury Witness's. Mattingly had asked for a special prosecutor from the outset and it was refused until Fritz knew that his scheme was unraveling. That's when he cut and ran.

Why don't you address what happened at the trial? Detective Ray testifed that he was with White and took a statement in Baltimore that differed greatly than the one the witness's gave at the Grand Jury, and at the actual trial. This statement was uncovered by Ms. Cumming 2 days before the July trial These witness's admitted that White had them change their testimony. He tried to hide the original statement and swore to the court twice that he had given them all of his evidence.
White is guilty of Perjury, Witness Tampering, and Withholding Evidence.
The stunt he pulled with Ottilie Lucienne was the one that broke the camels back for Ms. Cumming. It proved that Fritz, and White whole case against Mattingly was a manufacured scam.

Ottilie: Fritz'd Grand Jury Witness #1
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Ottilie Lucienne was approached by White and told – you’re going to testify that you can’t read or write English and John Mattingly tricked you into selling your property because you couldn’t read the documents you signed. Ms Lucienne sang like a bird and she sang the song Danny White wanted to hear. The only problem was, John Mattingly had in his possession a two page hand written protective order that was written in English and signed by Ms. Lucienne. The document John produced proved the Ms Lucienne's coached testimony was 100% completely false.

This was one of the many reasons why a jury found Mattingly Not Guilty and the special prosecutor dropped the rest of the charges.

This is the story of the conspiracy perpetrated by Richard Fritz and
Daniel White a conspiracy designed with one goal – to win an election and keep control of the county in the proper hands. There is no one sentence explanation to all that has unfolded and it will take weeks in federal court to prove the fact of these events. That day will ultimately come. Regardless of what happens in the election this story will not go away and some day the
truth will come to light.

Dan you really screwed up big time with Ottilie.... you really should have checked the court filings before you said she couldn't read and write english. Just wait until you hear her new audio affidavit and read her written one (its in english and german).

These documents are in the hands of the proper authorites, and something will come of it. Those guilty of crimes will pay for them.

All this coming from Mattingly's camp, Could this be the one and only thing they've ever said; BE TRUE??? HELL NO! Blah, Blah, Blah!

tom88
11-03-2010, 03:04 PM
Answer this.
If Fritz and White had such a strong case against Mattingly.Why did Fritz ask for a Special Prosecutor to be appointed within days of Mattingly's lawyer asking the court to prohibit Daniel White from Influencing Grand Jury Witness's. Mattingly had asked for a special prosecutor from the outset and it was refused until Fritz knew that his scheme was unraveling. That's when he cut and ran.

I'll answer the question, but I don't think you will honestly pay attention to it. It's an honest answer, as I have no dog in this fight. The truth of the matter is, it was the right thing to do once "Candidate" Mattingly started making this about politics rather than about the case.

Why don't you address what happened at the trial? Detective Ray testifed that he was with White and took a statement in Baltimore that differed greatly than the one the witness's gave at the Grand Jury, and at the actual trial. This statement was uncovered by Ms. Cumming 2 days before the July trial These witness's admitted that White had them change their testimony. He tried to hide the original statement and swore to the court twice that he had given them all of his evidence.

There was nothing in Detective Ray's report which was contrary to the evidence. Just a bit of a smoke screen by the Mattingly camp. Lawyers tricks.

White is guilty of Perjury, Witness Tampering, and Withholding Evidence.
The stunt he pulled with Ottilie Lucienne was the one that broke the camels back for Ms. Cumming. It proved that Fritz, and White whole case against Mattingly was a manufacured scam.

Ottilie: Fritz'd Grand Jury Witness #1
________________________________________
Ottilie Lucienne was approached by White and told – you’re going to testify that you can’t read or write English and John Mattingly tricked you into selling your property because you couldn’t read the documents you signed. Ms Lucienne sang like a bird and she sang the song Danny White wanted to hear. The only problem was, John Mattingly had in his possession a two page hand written protective order that was written in English and signed by Ms. Lucienne. The document John produced proved the Ms Lucienne's coached testimony was 100% completely false.

This was one of the many reasons why a jury found Mattingly Not Guilty and the special prosecutor dropped the rest of the charges.

This is the story of the conspiracy perpetrated by Richard Fritz and
Daniel White a conspiracy designed with one goal – to win an election and keep control of the county in the proper hands. There is no one sentence explanation to all that has unfolded and it will take weeks in federal court to prove the fact of these events. That day will ultimately come. Regardless of what happens in the election this story will not go away and some day the
truth will come to light.

Dan you really screwed up big time with Ottilie.... you really should have checked the court filings before you said she couldn't read and write english. Just wait until you hear her new audio affidavit and read her written one (its in english and german).

These documents are in the hands of the proper authorites, and something will come of it. Those guilty of crimes will pay for them.

Ok, again. You said this before. If this was true, and Ms. Cummings is this hard working, great special prosecutor, why is it that she has not indicted Daniel White on these charges of witness tampering, or obstruction? She has that authority. Nobody could come after her. Tell me why she didn't do it. That isn't something you can just shrug off. You make these allegations without any proof to back it up, but no explanation why YOUR special prosecutor has done nothing?

tom88
11-03-2010, 04:57 PM
I believe it took Fritz and White 18 month's to come up with 140 charges and no convictions against Mattingly. Give her some time. Ms Cumming isn't as sloppy as Fritz and White. Check Ms Cumming's record.
She never lost a case before she went to trial with Fritz and Whites trumped up charges. The State had no law enforcement, or legal witness's at the trial. The only two investigators(Det Ray, Daniel Alioto) who testified at the trial were called by the defense. One verifed that White had with held evidence. The other testified that he didn't need any evidence. The witness's the state did produce admitted in court that White had them change their testimony. After 18 month's the state couldn't produce one believeable witness. Typical for a Fritz case as far as preparedness goes. The charge weren't typical because they were manufactured garbage. Fritz and White are both corrupt. They will both get what they have coming to them, and it won't happen soon enough for me. Fritz won the election. Lets wait and see how he and White do at their trials.
You've done nothing but give personal opinions about what's taken place. When people post links to information all you do is ridicule their sources.
I know what transpired and you can't stop me from telling the truth. If you want me to keep repeating myself keep posting your disinformation. I enjoy telling people about Richard Fritz and Daniel White.

You never gave a reason for Fritz dumping the case on Ms. Cumming.

I did give you a reason. The reason is it was the right thing to do. The candidate Mattingly stated the reason these charges were brought was because he was running. I don't believe that, and I know you do, so we will have to agree to disagree. When Mattingly said this was political, the responsible thing to do give it to an independent prosecutor.

Lexib_
11-03-2010, 06:52 PM
Well, by that logic, she has broad powers as a special prosecutor. Why then, if she is so honest and found what you say she found, she hasn't indicted White on obstruction, or witness tampering?

Why then, if she is so honest and hard working did she agree to a plea which the judge rejected and gave the guy an additional two years for?

Well perhaps she is putting together a case against them? If Daniel White did these things that would be the proper thing to do correct ? The prosecution isn't going to tell the defense their strategy

tom88
11-03-2010, 07:32 PM
Well perhaps she is putting together a case against them? If Daniel White did these things that would be the proper thing to do correct ? The prosecution isn't going to tell the defense their strategy

Well, it isn't really that difficult. If obstruction and witness tampering is what they did wrong, why not indict them? She's done, and has not come back. The proper thing to do would to have brought charges against him at the time of the crime.


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